Why Vision Wasn't In Multiverse of Madness + Young Avengers!

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  • čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
  • Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness showed Wanda Maximoff breaking bad--and the number one question fans had is: "Where's Vision?" The last time we saw Charmin Vision in WandaVision, he had regain the memories of his previously life, and flew away to parts unknown. In this video we explain why he wasn't around to help Wanda, how he'll redeem her in the future, and eventually lead a new team of Avengers in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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    We’ve made quite a few videos about Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness where we bring up plot holes and theories about where we can go from here. By far the number one question we keep hearing is “Where is the Vision.” Why didn;t white Vision come help out? Where was he in the other universes?
    We’ve addressed this in a couple videos, but I’ve been thinking about it. I realized that Vision is actually the most crucial character in the MCU’s past and future.
    Vision is the reason that Wanda broke bad in the 616 and why she’s still got it together in the 838. Plus, I’ve got a theory that I think means that the Vision family is going to be happily reunited, and lead a team of all new Avengers.
    First, I want to talk about why Vision is ultimately responsible for Wanda’;s downfall in the 616 universe. But first, we need to look at a version of Wands that did not break bad. In the year 838, Wanda is able to have her twin sons, she is not evil, and apparently has the whole Scarlet witch chaos magic under control.
    And do you know why?
    Doug: Why?
    Because Vision does not exist in this universe. First of all, exhibit A, Wanda has no wedding ring.
    Exhibit B, the Ultron bots actually work. In our easter egg video-hey, one million views, thanks fans!. IN our easter egg video I guessed that the Ultron bots actually work because they were invented by Reed Richards. The smartest man alive who casually told wanda Black Bolts’ one weakness.
    And, this could be true. Or mayhem Tony Stark still existed in this universe, but reed helped him perfect the Ultron program. Either way, Ultron never turned evil. If Ultron never turned evil, then he never created the Vision to be his new beach body. So, the mind stone would have stayed in Loki’s scepter, and probably would have been removed from earth by Thor. Remember that for later.
    And also, if Ultron never turns evil, then Pietro never dies. Even if Vision did exist, then this would have changed Wanda’s relationship. When she was mourning Pietro, she found comfort with Vision.
    So the 838 Wanda is in a much better place, emotionally. Also, no Ultron means no Sokovia accords, which means no Civil war. The 838 universe was a paradise, up until 616 Wanda paid them a visit.
    But, one key event stayed the same. Wanda still created her sons-as a single mom. Not only that, but her boys have also still aged up quickly, just like they did in WandaVison.
    So why did Wanda create a family for herself in this other universe? Could be for any number of reasons. Likely, she just wanted a family, and the magic she used accelerated their aging. So the kids in the 838 were not created from grief. They were created from love. What is important is that the manner she created them was different from the 616.
    In 616, Wanda was mourning Vision. She just saw the love of her life dismembered and destroyed. That’s heartbreaking for anyone to endure. Then, in her grief, she subconsciously creates a new vision.That’s important for later.
    This new Vision, and this fantasy world, were flawed from the beginning. The magic was never meant to last. It meant that this version of Wanda’s kids were always going to be destroyed.
    In Multiverse of Madness, we learn that Wanda has her kids in every single other reality-except this one. And why? Because in 616, she was mourning Vision. So we can theorize that Vision did not exist in any other universe. Because when the vision exists, he dies, and the hex is created, Wanda turns to the Darkhold, and wanda is evil.
    But I think there’s another reason why the loss of Vision caused Wanda to break bad. The two of them are connected through the infinity stone. [I just feel you]. Vision never understood his connection to the stone
    In many ways, Vision was a vehicle that the stone was driving around. He was a living infinity stone. And Wanda is tied to that stone-she creates Vision with the piece of the mind stone that lived in her. So when the Mind stone is destroyed-when Vision is destroyed, a piece of her goes silent.
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Komentáře • 751

  • @ScreenCrush
    @ScreenCrush  Před 2 lety +100

    Where was Vision?

  • @halfdevoured
    @halfdevoured Před 2 lety +250

    I'm sure there are plenty of realities where Wanda doesn' have her kids... or had them and lost them. In my opinion, the Darkhold wanted her to believe that she was the only Wanda without her children in order to manipulate and control her more easily, so she was only shown those realities.

    • @TheBlackSaint
      @TheBlackSaint Před 2 lety +20

      Yes, first rule of comics, is never trust what the “bad guy” tells you.

    • @david2512-b9h
      @david2512-b9h Před 2 lety +15

      Agree and think the darkhold was also not showing her realities with Vision, as its possible that he could have been someone that could talk her out of her plan.

    • @notalokivariant
      @notalokivariant Před 2 lety +2

      she probably sleep walked more then a thousend of her variants to make sure that the book was telling the truth

    • @allthingspage1498
      @allthingspage1498 Před rokem

      she sleep walked thru all of them tho.. im sure she def made sure to check if the book was lying or not..

    • @10human7
      @10human7 Před 10 měsíci

      Personally I believe its due to Wanda being a nexus being, since there’s only one scarlet witch. Agatha says that the scarlet witch isnt born, but created, so a requirement for that would be for wanda to be entirely and utterly alone, which is what we see in wandavision. Every other wanda either has her sons, vision, or both, witch is why they aren’t the scarlet witch.

  • @drogusmaxwell6640
    @drogusmaxwell6640 Před 2 lety +211

    I really hope they continue with Wanda. Her influence over the entire Marvel universe is undeniable. Also, Elizabeth Olsen puts all she has into bringing Wanda/Scarlet Witch to life, they would do a great service to fans if they continue to let her do so.

    • @LJGrindewald
      @LJGrindewald Před 2 lety +13

      Deffo. The way she swirls her hands and holds her hex's to the death stare. She's awesome 🤣

    • @akhronus8964
      @akhronus8964 Před 2 lety +5

      @@LJGrindewald Also, don't forget the "😈uhuhm."

    • @cashmoneychanel1209
      @cashmoneychanel1209 Před 2 lety

      @@akhronus8964 chills!!

  • @Bear1854
    @Bear1854 Před 2 lety +236

    Your theory make the most sense of all that Vison wasn't around because Ultron never became a thing. Thanks for all you do for us my friend!

    • @danielreed1859
      @danielreed1859 Před 2 lety +4

      Idk the Ultron bots look like Ultron sentries, which he made after going rouge. unless by complete random chance the 838 Ultron bots look exactly like the 616 bots, I think it’s more than likely the Illuminati just took control of Ultron army before Sokovia was destroyed

    • @titaniumcommandrig
      @titaniumcommandrig Před 2 lety +2

      Theory doesn’t work since we’ve already seen a Vision variant in what if

    • @soren7944
      @soren7944 Před 2 lety +1

      @@danielreed1859 isn't that what ultron supposed to be? i remember he's created to protect earth or smth, but he gained his own perception and went rogue. Maybe in 838 he's just well programmed enough and they mass produced them to be ultron bots

    • @skooney2883
      @skooney2883 Před 2 lety

      Does the young avengers ever get older ?

  • @Queuewithouttheueue
    @Queuewithouttheueue Před 2 lety +82

    When you said Tucker Carlson Vision, I DIED 😂

    • @hanablemoore8239
      @hanablemoore8239 Před 2 lety +7

      me 2. i think that line went over a few heads lol.

    • @ultraokletsgo
      @ultraokletsgo Před 2 lety

      What did he mean by that?

    • @Queuewithouttheueue
      @Queuewithouttheueue Před 2 lety

      @@ultraokletsgo Tucker Carlson is a Fox News commentator who spouts rhetoric on his show that very closely aligns with white supremacist and white nationalist ideals.

    • @bills.9734
      @bills.9734 Před 2 lety

      @@ultraokletsgo Tucker Carlson is basically a white supremist that has an opinion show on Fox News, and white Vision is... well... super white, lol. I thought that was funny as Hell, lol.

    • @MrKinkysloth
      @MrKinkysloth Před 2 lety +3

      @@ultraokletsgo just save yourself the trouble and don’t worry about it lol

  • @mrdarkmagic8437
    @mrdarkmagic8437 Před 2 lety +74

    I think saying that Vision doesn't exist in any other universe is a very bold assumption. Because vision isn't the only thing that led Wanda to the darkhold, it's also Agatha (because she teached her the darkhold's existance) and Pietro (who amplified Wanda's grief because she had nobody left)

    • @ashleysaavedra8445
      @ashleysaavedra8445 Před 2 lety +8

      This theory still stands because without Wanda’s grief about losing vision. She would have never created the hex in west view. The only reason Agatha was interested in Wanda is because she was impressed the hex that Wanda created. No vision to grief, no hex, no Agatha

    • @CratthewF
      @CratthewF Před 2 lety +10

      And bc vision literally already exists in what if zombies

    • @mrdarkmagic8437
      @mrdarkmagic8437 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ashleysaavedra8445 We don't really know if she created the hex because of just Visions death and the fact he was used as a weapon or that Ralph also played a part in making her feel very alone and helpless.

    • @0ut1aw
      @0ut1aw Před 2 lety +7

      Ya know what else is a bold assumption? 616 Wanda is the only Wanda in the entire multiverse who doesn't have kids

    • @CalypsoDarling
      @CalypsoDarling Před rokem

      @@mrdarkmagic8437 it is because of Vision. She was looking at the property deed he bought for them that read “to grow old in” reminding her that they would never get to spend their life together. So what does she do? Breaks down and subconsciously creates him and that dream life, she makes it happen. She didn’t create her brother and parents, if it was about them she would’ve. She was completely grieving Vision. She is beyond in love with him. Not that she doesn’t love her parents and brother but Vision is the love of her life. Loosing him completely destroyed her.

  • @cryptodaddy1082
    @cryptodaddy1082 Před 2 lety +49

    I really thought Agatha was gonna show up in MoM cause I remember Agatha told Wanda she would need her at the end when she was defeated. She knows more about scarlet witch than anyone kinda disappointed she didn’t show up. Also Vision who is clearly a big part of Wanda

    • @Ultimate95
      @Ultimate95 Před 2 lety +12

      Might be better is it was Agatha who brought Wanda to Wondergore Mountain instead of Wong

  • @mhewwariya2395
    @mhewwariya2395 Před 2 lety +24

    Their story is poetic at its best. Would love to see more of Paul Bettany and Elizabeth Olsen in the future. They're absolutely delightful. Great vids btw 👍

  • @deathsyth8888
    @deathsyth8888 Před 2 lety +120

    There's at least another two Visions from the alternative universes as shown in the Disney+ 'What If' series. One with all the zombies (including Zombie Wanda) and one with Infinity Ultron using the synthizoid body that would have belonged to Vision.

    • @allegate387
      @allegate387 Před 2 lety +9

      Isn't Infinity Ultron - AKA Zola Ultron - stuck in a spell with Killmonger though?

    • @Jorflipjan
      @Jorflipjan Před 2 lety +5

      Well there’s infinitely many visions since there’s infinitely many universes

    • @rhiannongreen2642
      @rhiannongreen2642 Před 2 lety

      we can assume that is a universe that is identical to 616 up until Janet Van Dyne's rescue

    • @sothisishowusernameswork.2043
      @sothisishowusernameswork.2043 Před 2 lety

      but those two are dead, atleast the zombie one.

  • @kirkforthewin
    @kirkforthewin Před 2 lety +34

    My theory is that because Wanda purged the Multiverse of the Darkhold, that is how Kang conquers those universes. With the Wanda's in those universes not having access to the Darkhold, they never become the Scarlet Witch in them, and without her being there, the heroes of those worlds fall to Kang. It'll also be why he won't be able to Conquer the 616 because Wanda is already the Scarlet Witch.

    • @markfloresta2436
      @markfloresta2436 Před 2 lety +1

      Cool

    • @jonathanev9996
      @jonathanev9996 Před 2 lety

      Does Wanda need the darkhold to be Scarlet witch ? And what if in other universes she’s already Scarlet Witch ?

    • @colethomas-ballinger2441
      @colethomas-ballinger2441 Před 2 lety +1

      I'm pretty sure there's only one scarlet witch, wanda in the 616. All other Wanda's may have power but they're not the literal scarlet witch.

    • @jonathanev9996
      @jonathanev9996 Před 2 lety

      @@colethomas-ballinger2441 why

  • @TheNalbandian
    @TheNalbandian Před 2 lety +128

    I will forever refer to the new vision as “Tucker Carlson Vision” thanks to you ryan!

    • @ishaanupreti6438
      @ishaanupreti6438 Před 2 lety +16

      And not Mayovision ?

    • @David-du2jk
      @David-du2jk Před 2 lety +4

      It seems funny, but I don't really get it.

    • @qwertiepie
      @qwertiepie Před 2 lety +6

      @@David-du2jk white vision

    • @DharmaDerelict
      @DharmaDerelict Před 2 lety +7

      Calling him mayo vision right before tucker carlson vision was *chefs kiss*

    • @DharmaDerelict
      @DharmaDerelict Před 2 lety

      @@David-du2jk “Tucker Carlson is a white supremacist so… you do the math.

  • @WickedGamer1
    @WickedGamer1 Před 2 lety +65

    Vision will absolutely be helping form up the Young Avengers. It's too perfect!

    • @ishaanupreti6438
      @ishaanupreti6438 Před 2 lety +6

      He might even become red again.

    • @madtitan0825
      @madtitan0825 Před 2 lety +6

      Him and Hawkeye can help forming the team

    • @CoachC1721
      @CoachC1721 Před 2 lety

      That’s lame lol

    • @TonyVM775
      @TonyVM775 Před 2 lety +4

      @@CoachC1721 I’m with you I can’t see know one in the mcu in a leading role like cap. Exempt captain marvel.
      Lmaoooooooooo jk

    • @archangel5627
      @archangel5627 Před 2 lety

      @@ishaanupreti6438 Well in the comics he does eventually regain his old body and with Marvel kicking the doors wide open with the Multiverse, anything is possible now.

  • @canthony0626
    @canthony0626 Před 2 lety +9

    I think during MOM when Wanda was on her killing rampage you can hear one of Ultron bots say "Ultron" before getting destroyed

  • @cameroncuss3920
    @cameroncuss3920 Před 2 lety +14

    Also lets not forget the last Wanda saw of White vision was him attacking her then attacking hex vision, she'd have no reason to seek out something like that and that's if she even knew he was still out there

  • @dracarys_eN
    @dracarys_eN Před 2 lety +21

    I personnally think that White Vision is Vision, just because of his new eyes, and remember that we say « eyes are the reflects of soul » (here, spirit would be much more appropriate but that’s not the real quote lmao) and White Vision’s eyes are the same as Vision. It kinda makes sense to me.

    • @phoule76
      @phoule76 Před 2 lety +1

      in English, the expression goes more like, "the eyes are the mirror to the soul" or some bullshit like that.

    • @dracarys_eN
      @dracarys_eN Před 2 lety +1

      @@phoule76 oh thank you i didnt knew ! not a native english😅

  • @KingPhilip_ULP
    @KingPhilip_ULP Před 2 lety +7

    I think the show runners will eventually start adapting Ryan's theories into the plots lol

  • @ishaanupreti6438
    @ishaanupreti6438 Před 2 lety +11

    Just plug in the Mind Stone back into White Vision. Now, about where to get the Mind Stone, I think Wanda can make it again. Now, about Wanda, I think she is still alive.

    • @teo2805
      @teo2805 Před 2 lety +2

      I don't think Wanda can just create the stones, no matter how powerful she is. If she could, shed just build an infinity gauntlet and timetravel to change everything.

    • @newkingscontent8533
      @newkingscontent8533 Před 2 lety +1

      @@teo2805 Even if she goes through time travel that still creates a new timeline, a new universe, and a new reality.

    • @CalypsoDarling
      @CalypsoDarling Před rokem

      @@teo2805 she has part of its energy flowing through her so she could. Just like she was able to destroy it, she was only able to do that because it was its own energy.

  • @mydoggylives
    @mydoggylives Před 2 lety +44

    I theorized that the 616 Wanda is the ONE Wanda that was meant to become The Scarlet Witch. It would explain why the other universe's Wandas had children and she didn't. She was meant to get ahold of the Darkhold and become the Scarlet Witch. There's still a plot hole with my theory though... I figured that the Wundagore Mountain in the 616 universe was the only one (the original) and that's why, when it was destroyed, it destroyed all the other Darkhold's in all the other universes. There still needs to be an explanation as to HOW those other copies got to those universes though. That's where it falls down. Why just ONE Book of Vashanti and MULTIPLE Darkholds??? Usually good and evil are meant to balance each other out. 🤔🤷‍♂️

    • @vatsalsrivastav5195
      @vatsalsrivastav5195 Před 2 lety +8

      Well there is just one of each. One wundagore mountain and one book of Vashanti. All the darkhold are just mare copies of wundagore

    • @chilvari
      @chilvari Před 2 lety +11

      That's actually a really interesting theory and it kinda makes sense. Wanda 616 is meant to be the Scarlet Witch while all the other Wanda's are not. Hence why Wanda 616 has such a tragic backstory. Even in the movie she made a reference about how she's meant to rule everything but that's not what she wants. I hope our Wanda can still get her happy ending despite being the Scarlet Witch.

    • @spoons250
      @spoons250 Před 2 lety +4

      Youre right. They said as much around the time of Wanda vision, producers (some interview) said the MCU eversion of the Nexus being" is a being that exists ONLY in that universe. In this case, the scarlet witch. Also in the commercials during Wanda vision, the "nexus" depression medicine says something like "A unique, one of a kind solution". Every other wanda has a life, a husband, a ability to move on. Its the SW that seems to attract pain.

  • @awesome_danimal
    @awesome_danimal Před 2 lety +15

    Tucker Carlson Vision is the best line of the video. Please keep this joke going, Ryan!

    • @voiceinject
      @voiceinject Před 2 lety +1

      I know who Tucker Carlson is, but I don't get the joke. Can you please explain this for me?

    • @ishaanupreti6438
      @ishaanupreti6438 Před 2 lety +1

      @@voiceinject I don't even know who that is 😅

    • @ishaanupreti6438
      @ishaanupreti6438 Před 2 lety +1

      No, the best line was "Mayovision". 😂

    • @mo_4484
      @mo_4484 Před 2 lety +1

      "White Vision" = Tucker Carlson lol

    • @awesome_danimal
      @awesome_danimal Před 2 lety

      Tucker Carlson is the whitest person on Fox News...that should explain it for you guys...

  • @ScreenCrush
    @ScreenCrush  Před 2 lety +10

    Where do you want to see Vision appear next in the MCU?

    • @thatdeltsguy
      @thatdeltsguy Před 2 lety +2

      Maybe in quantumania

    • @ebinsunny4349
      @ebinsunny4349 Před 2 lety +3

      Black panther 2

    • @ET-Wonder1
      @ET-Wonder1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ebinsunny4349 Imagine in Black Panther 2, he went back where he left off in Infinity War

    • @ishaanupreti6438
      @ishaanupreti6438 Před 2 lety

      Black Panther II

    • @brucelau2023
      @brucelau2023 Před 2 lety +1

      Probably and most logically in Don cheadle’s Armor Wars

  • @johnnavin
    @johnnavin Před 2 lety +10

    i do hope you are right! i really want wanda to be happily reunite with her kids and her husband vision!

  • @EdwardCorcinos
    @EdwardCorcinos Před 2 lety +13

    Or, Wanda had kids in most of the other universes, and 616 Wanda created them/dreamed them up from her dreams (dreams are peeks into other multiverses). Maybe in one of the multiverses she had biological kids the old fashion way.

    • @CalypsoDarling
      @CalypsoDarling Před rokem

      But if they look like her children with Vision then he’s their father in that universe (if she created biologically and they’re not products of her magic bec she could’ve manifested them too if she wanted). But people only look different in another universe if the parents are different. That Billy and Tommy looked like the same ones from WandaVision, meaning he has to be the father in that universe too.

  • @kenyanallen9135
    @kenyanallen9135 Před 2 lety +3

    Vision had the single greatest quotes in the MCU

  • @flashfan2058
    @flashfan2058 Před 2 lety +4

    My guess is that since white Vision only has some idea of his past life he remembers the idea of the avengers but not the actual team. So Val will find vision and add him to the Thundebolts.

  • @notomonuncamas
    @notomonuncamas Před 2 lety

    Thank you for spoiling me this with your title. I really appreciate it :)

  • @thebathrobebassist58
    @thebathrobebassist58 Před 2 lety +2

    LMAO @ "Tucker Carlson Vision" 5:23

  • @markpittman2993
    @markpittman2993 Před 2 lety

    Great Job as always! I so enjoy your videos

  • @starfire2125
    @starfire2125 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent theorycrafting!

  • @RohitSharmaDECIPHERETERNITY

    :) thanks mate, you gave me some closure about this movie.

  • @ronaldbodigheimer169
    @ronaldbodigheimer169 Před 2 lety

    That was a good one thank you!!

  • @Calmetoe-kh9cp
    @Calmetoe-kh9cp Před 2 lety +2

    Vision do exist in some other universe since we saw vision in What If? In the zombie episode there was a vision there

  • @thatsjstgreatpingpng
    @thatsjstgreatpingpng Před 2 lety +4

    Isn’t it possible that 838 Wanda had the kids with another man and they just aged up normally?

    • @anthonydaquet7934
      @anthonydaquet7934 Před 2 lety +1

      It could make sense especially cus 838 Wanda would be 5 years older than 616 Wanda since 838 didnt have to deal with the blip

  • @TheJim42069
    @TheJim42069 Před 2 lety +6

    3:25 Vision definitely existed in other universes does UltraVision from the What if series ring any bells?

  • @munny_1206
    @munny_1206 Před 2 lety +2

    Maybe in Agatha's show we'll see what happened to Billy & Tommy and find out it was Mephisto all along. Okay that last part was a hopeful reach

  • @ExpiredPants
    @ExpiredPants Před 2 lety

    Dope video.

  • @bretthenderson2759
    @bretthenderson2759 Před 2 lety

    Algorithmic engagement comment. Keep up the great videos!

  • @JLWilliams51
    @JLWilliams51 Před 2 lety +12

    Isn’t one of the secret ingredients to Vision Jarvis? Maybe this is part of what’s lacking in the multiverse outside of the 616?

    • @deepfeelingsnetwork2898
      @deepfeelingsnetwork2898 Před 2 lety

      No, if there's no Jarvis. There could be some other A.I. So, Vision is still possible

    • @kijahowen2n464
      @kijahowen2n464 Před 2 lety

      Technically Vision could still exist he would just be made differently. Like how we’ve met 3 genetically different Peter Parker’s. It would be a “genetically” different Vision.

  • @whopee2812
    @whopee2812 Před 2 lety +36

    This man has more knowledge on the MCU than the creators themselves

    • @Ghost8386
      @Ghost8386 Před 2 lety +1

      Agree to Disagree.

    • @cosimocommisso2438
      @cosimocommisso2438 Před 2 lety +2

      I bet MCU watches his videos for ideas on how to continue the story

    • @InnerAtanih
      @InnerAtanih Před 2 lety +1

      He and the mcu are just as incoherent

  • @AndyLSB
    @AndyLSB Před 2 lety +29

    I feel like we need a video explaining power levels of characters because with all of this "thanos is the strongest" and the "infinity stones are the greatest power of the universe" then the celestials come in, then some "Gods" the TVA then other powerfull beings like wizards and creatures like the creator of the all black, it gets confusing as to who is a bigger threat than the other.

    • @samuelbrown3326
      @samuelbrown3326 Před 2 lety +1

      definitely it gets quite confusing

    • @kijahowen2n464
      @kijahowen2n464 Před 2 lety +5

      the biggest threat is always who the script needs it to be.

    • @minatozach4698
      @minatozach4698 Před 2 lety

      We need to wait until Thor 4 come out to shed more light on this topic.

  • @McFlyToys
    @McFlyToys Před 2 lety +3

    Didn't Elizabeth Olsen state in an interview that she was under the impression that Vision does exist in Earth 838 and that they are just not together possibly even divorced? Now I know unless it comes from Feige but someone had to give her that idea for her to say it in an interview no?

    • @CalypsoDarling
      @CalypsoDarling Před rokem

      Yeah because the only children we’ve seen are what her children with Vision look like, meaning he’s their father in that universe too

  • @felixpoventud3914
    @felixpoventud3914 Před 2 lety +3

    I think yr right, about wanda! She is a hero! She will be back to help save the world again!

  • @preciousoreka
    @preciousoreka Před 2 lety +3

    At the end of Dr Strange 2, white Vision went to rescue unconscious Wanda from the ruble then takes her to the new finished house in Westview without the hex (since he has red vision's memory) where they both help to heal and then have kids... although it'll be hard for her to settle in Westview after the whole hex thing but she'll find her way around her neighbors... Don't forget Agatha is still under her spell.

  • @amyr.7962
    @amyr.7962 Před 2 lety +1

    Good work: good theory! I will look forward to this story hope. The miracle of _WandaVision_ was how it sidestepped smoothly from the Englehart stories right around the Byrne stories, sparing Wanda the violence Byrne did to her character (in his belief that Vision is just a toaster and she's more fun as a villain, and also mentally ill). This theory reads like a similar, highly compatible, sidestep. Fingers crossed.

  • @hudatfilmz3337
    @hudatfilmz3337 Před 2 lety

    Spot on!!!

  • @AustinFan4Life
    @AustinFan4Life Před 2 lety +7

    Vision didn't exist in the 838, because Vision was created after the Ultron program became corrupted. Because we see functional Ultron sentries, we know that the Ultron program never became corrupted in the 838, hence no Vision.

    • @Bas-TB
      @Bas-TB Před 2 lety +1

      Corruption isn’t the only reason Ultron could have created vision, perhaps this Ultron isn’t fully sentient and tried to be more helpful by becoming sentient.

    • @CalypsoDarling
      @CalypsoDarling Před rokem

      If they look like her children with Vision then he’s their father in that universe (if she created them biologically and they’re not products of her magic bec she could’ve manifested them too if she wanted). But people only look different in another universe if the parents are different. That Billy and Tommy looked like the same ones from WandaVision, meaning he has to be the father in that universe too.

  • @dingar7191
    @dingar7191 Před 2 lety +5

    What about where she breaks the fourth wall with a camera glance? I think that tells us the other Wanda with the kids is still with the hex/wandavision/got that to work.

  • @juststevejones7235
    @juststevejones7235 Před 2 lety +42

    It's cool to talk about this from a creative standpoint but really he wasn't in it because of Paul Bettany's small bit in a certain trial. I think they were just playing it safe. When he does show up I hope that he is key to bringing Wanda back from the dark.. All he has to do is get her to feel his forehead like she did in Wandavision and she will feel that it's really him. It will be Wanda's final redemption moment.

    • @dr.stephenstrange8471
      @dr.stephenstrange8471 Před 2 lety

      I personally don’t think it would make sense if vision was in multiverse of madness.

    • @ishaanupreti6438
      @ishaanupreti6438 Před 2 lety +4

      I don't think she can be redeemed now. She became too bloodlusted.

    • @juststevejones7235
      @juststevejones7235 Před 2 lety +5

      @@ishaanupreti6438 right she won’t be redeemed right now. Say it again right now. Didn’t say she would be. The whole purpose now is to watch her redemption arc. Arc. Meaning a longer process to the end result. When she realized her evil ways at the end of Dr strange she did what she did. Do you think she will be evil Wanda forever. You just simply said can’t be redeemed.

    • @ishaanupreti6438
      @ishaanupreti6438 Před 2 lety +1

      @@juststevejones7235 Yes, she can't be redeemed, because dead people can't have a redemption arc.

    • @juststevejones7235
      @juststevejones7235 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ishaanupreti6438 wow, you really just said that a fictional dead comic book hero can’t be redeemed! So The times that Jean Grey, WonderMan, Red skull, Thor, Thanos, Professor x(died three times in the movies alone), Captain America, Spider-Man, Wolverine and many more have all died never to return and redeem their arc or a new arc. With the multiverse which was created in comics to retcon, redeem, and bring back characters, you’re saying that our Wanda 616 in the McU is dead and gone. You’ve read a comic book right?

  • @ryan.noakes
    @ryan.noakes Před 2 lety

    I love how I always laugh when you include the Wicker Man clip. Ever. Single. Time. Please don't ever stop!

  • @bw9505
    @bw9505 Před 2 lety +3

    Vision and the GREAT SCARLET WITCH ☝️will be together once again 😤💯

  • @LipStickTrainFace
    @LipStickTrainFace Před 2 lety +1

    Love everything you do

  • @steveroger838
    @steveroger838 Před 2 lety +2

    “Tucker Carlson Vision” I love that 😂😂

  • @roykimotho9965
    @roykimotho9965 Před 2 lety

    Doug is always such a delight ☺️

  • @clintdeangelis5082
    @clintdeangelis5082 Před 2 lety +2

    With all the times he said "connected" woulda thought a clip from IM 3 would have popped up 😉

  • @CephaLynchPod
    @CephaLynchPod Před 2 lety

    I love how you still managed to fit in a “the bees!”

  • @robertjohnson6671
    @robertjohnson6671 Před 2 lety

    best one yet

  • @chrismoore2837
    @chrismoore2837 Před 2 lety +10

    If she can just "create" the boys in any universe, why can't she just re-create them in ours without the hex?

    • @bulldawg986
      @bulldawg986 Před 2 lety +3

      Wanda and vision cant physically create the twins without the hex so she would have to pick an abandoned town and create a new hex where her and vision can have segs

    • @chrismoore2837
      @chrismoore2837 Před 2 lety +3

      @@bulldawg986 As the video states though, she doesn't need Vision or the hex in other universes.

    • @bulldawg986
      @bulldawg986 Před 2 lety +2

      @@chrismoore2837 the twins most likely have another father due to the events of avengers 2 not playing out in the other universes due to reed richards creating ultron thus no need for Jarvis aka vision thus Wanda in other universes having another paul bettnay love interest thus the twins being Organic!

    • @ma.cristinafucio2650
      @ma.cristinafucio2650 Před 2 lety +2

      @@bulldawg986 so your saying wanda's vision or paul bettany in other universe are possibly human? Oh great i love that.

    • @bulldawg986
      @bulldawg986 Před 2 lety +2

      @@ma.cristinafucio2650 exactly my friend and that is why the twins are real in some universes most likely the universes where reed richards exist so basically which ever universe billy and wickin are real Kang the conqueror could exist since kang is a descendant of reed richards

  • @Eliphasleviathan93
    @Eliphasleviathan93 Před 2 lety +4

    Tucker Carlson
    Vision LMAO

  • @tyrionstark
    @tyrionstark Před 2 lety

    You and these (insert)visions are hilarious. 😂😂😂😂

  • @jakalair
    @jakalair Před 2 lety

    I love that as Doug gets older he gets more sassy. Some of his lines make me pause the video because I am laughing too hard. And this video got me back to back with 2 different jokes.

  • @IMDABROWN
    @IMDABROWN Před 2 lety

    Tucker!!!!! that was perfect.

  • @josephchurch7871
    @josephchurch7871 Před 2 lety +4

    I like this theory. Makes me think that we should be thinking of 616 Vision as a failed Ultron - the exception not the norm. Like maybe in most other Marvel universes Ultron always gets his beautiful body. Vision being created would have been more favorable for He Who Remains.

    • @TheBlackSaint
      @TheBlackSaint Před 2 lety

      Exactly. Also, while Vision is powerful, he’s not invincible. He was almost critically injured by Thanos’s henchman. Ultron could’ve still be defeated while in his seemingly “perfect” form.

    • @titaniumcommandrig
      @titaniumcommandrig Před 2 lety

      @@TheBlackSaint he injured him because the blade ruined his powers

  • @Gemma-Bricks
    @Gemma-Bricks Před 2 lety +1

    That whole living in sin thing was funny

  • @justingary5322
    @justingary5322 Před 2 lety +2

    White Vision has Vision's memories so he can reform The New Avengers

  • @d_d_d_d_
    @d_d_d_d_ Před 2 lety

    yeah this all adds up to me!

  • @ET-Wonder1
    @ET-Wonder1 Před 2 lety +1

    I think he went back to where he left off in Infinity War: Wakanda

  • @TheQuincyEdwards
    @TheQuincyEdwards Před 2 lety +1

    What my stones are warning me about…
    That android was something else man.

  • @MGJJ123
    @MGJJ123 Před 2 lety

    Dude. The little dog saying “that could just mean they’re living sin”. Best part.

  • @fulcrum0756
    @fulcrum0756 Před 2 lety

    Love the "Not the BEES!" running gag

  • @shizzy3149
    @shizzy3149 Před 2 lety +1

    Vision does exist in other universes like the zombie universe from “What If…?” But that universe had some other stuff to worry about like Scarlet Zombie Witch.

  • @dburton1999
    @dburton1999 Před 2 lety +1

    Loop hole! Vision exists in “What If”

  • @marcusszavaleta
    @marcusszavaleta Před 2 lety

    You’re great

  • @briandaleske5139
    @briandaleske5139 Před 2 lety

    I really like the set of theories that were just mentioned.

  • @sulufest
    @sulufest Před 2 lety +1

    @5:22 LOLZ 😂

  • @marcoandrade4872
    @marcoandrade4872 Před 2 lety +2

    TUCKER CARLSON VISION HAHAHAHA IM DED😂😂😂😂

  • @rohith4598
    @rohith4598 Před 2 lety +2

    Is there an in universe explanation as to why there is no threat of an incursion in No Way Home?

  • @idalmizlopez2296
    @idalmizlopez2296 Před 2 lety +4

    Hey Ryan! Big fan here! Do you think that like Tony Stark, Wanda dreamed about her kids from another universe and created exactly that in WandaVision?

  • @jadepinnock
    @jadepinnock Před 2 lety +4

    How do you know in the other universes she created Billy and Tommy with magic? I just assume she had them the old fashioned way

    • @proudbeanerii3810
      @proudbeanerii3810 Před 2 lety +1

      Because the males are the ones that gets them pregnant. So even if she had them the old fashion way that means the kids are getting wandas genes more than the fathers.

  • @DarthRaptor22
    @DarthRaptor22 Před 2 lety

    "mayo vision" "tucker carlson vision" ...I died

  • @cvino0618
    @cvino0618 Před 2 měsíci

    Revising after news of Vision's new show

  • @austingarrison9548
    @austingarrison9548 Před 2 lety

    The vision and Wanda living in sin line made me chuckle

  • @jsyserro
    @jsyserro Před 2 lety

    Wow standing ovation Marvel better hire you guys 👏🏼

  • @brittneyann5530
    @brittneyann5530 Před 2 lety

    I didn’t really get into the mcu and marvel until the beginning of last year. I’ve now watched everything they have put out, at least everything confirmed canon by the mcu, and thanks to your videos I’m able to learn so much and be a part of the mcu now while it’s happening. I really, really needed a hobby and marvel has become that so thank you!
    Also side note if I wanted to start getting into the comics does anyone have recommendations where to start? Maybe guides?

  • @Juu_juuu
    @Juu_juuu Před rokem

    Vision leading the young justice looks like red tornado babysitting the young justice team

  • @mauriceschannel1945
    @mauriceschannel1945 Před 2 lety

    Glad you pointed out the ultron bots

  • @charlesjohnson7458
    @charlesjohnson7458 Před 2 lety +2

    Wait a sec. Is Ryan the voice of Doug? WOW! He's just like Oscar Issac!

  • @Oggy9156
    @Oggy9156 Před 2 lety +3

    In first 3 marvel phase it was all about black Widow evolving.
    Now in this phase it's all about Wanda.

  • @bradleyd.9801
    @bradleyd.9801 Před 2 lety +1

    Vision is in What If, right? In both the Zombies ep and the Ultron finale

  • @thetitsarefree
    @thetitsarefree Před 2 lety +3

    Hopefully whenever they get to the Books of Doom movie everyone has already agreed needs to be made Wanda can appear as a master of witchcraft and possibly a temporary love interest of Victor
    Also Wanda needs her own episode in What If season 2

  • @bet0v966
    @bet0v966 Před 2 lety +1

    If there’s a universe where Wanda loses it all, then there has to be one where her loved ones lose her. There had to be at least one, which still find odd they didn’t address this possibility

  • @My2cents.
    @My2cents. Před 2 lety +2

    We’re caught up playing the impassioned protagonist in our Subjective Narrative of Self~🎈

  • @jakespeed9419
    @jakespeed9419 Před 2 lety +3

    They should have introduced vision again in m.o.m.

  • @donmillo3270
    @donmillo3270 Před 2 lety

    I lost it with “wonder bread vision”… lol

  • @jermainekngdom3154
    @jermainekngdom3154 Před 2 lety +2

    I think their father is Kaplan.
    Wanda kids are not her kids.
    Disclaimer: I know marvel wing it more often than not and create connections afterwards. That's why Dr strange 2 is so disconnected from Wanda vision. I'm pretty sure they probably wasn't sure he was alive and only knew a little about what happened and not the ending

  • @rosecity_chris
    @rosecity_chris Před 2 lety +1

    I cant wait for more white vision. He looks so dope and I wanna see his power levels maxed out

  • @chilvari
    @chilvari Před 2 lety

    This whole video makes so much sense! I would love for Wanda 616 to come back with her memories erased. It would be such an interesting dynamic! Especially if they also bring back White Vision and Billy & Tommy as teenagers! There's so much potential for Wanda's story moving forward! Including the universal differences between Wanda 616 and Wanda 838.

  • @OvidandDaved
    @OvidandDaved Před 2 lety

    My theory is she saved herself like she did as a child subconsciously and will suffer some sort of disassociation and vision is basically the same since no memories and they will build a new relationship

  • @TheJoshie
    @TheJoshie Před 2 lety

    TUCKER CARLSON VISION!!!🤣 Nailed it Ryan!

  • @edwardendicott3247
    @edwardendicott3247 Před 2 lety +1

    Ok so Wanda's probability powers saved her " as always" her powers aren't to do the impossible but the improbable. Like not disarming the missiles blinking light but disarming the triggering mechanism.

  • @michaeltodd3557
    @michaeltodd3557 Před 2 lety

    Bro when she closed black bolts mouth she was beyond redemption as a character lol

  • @charlesjohnson7458
    @charlesjohnson7458 Před 2 lety +1

    Young Avengers and Thunderbolts forthcoming - nuff said