15 Reasons Keyboards are Better than Traditional Pianos
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Hey Jeramy seen a video were you connected a keyboard to a computer and used it as a MIDI controller. Does that work with the recording program Logic
Yes, the digital piano and other electronic music keyboards do have advantages over the acoustic pianos. However, do note that when a model of a digital piano or an electronic keyboard is no longer in production, the manufacturer would also halt the production of spare replacement electronic circuit boards for that model. So, when a board fails in a discontinued model, it is very unlikely that a replacement board will be easily available to repair it, and more often than not, the manufacturer will advise the user to buy a newer model to replace the old one. A good way to get repeat business. Of course, there are owners of out-of-production digital pianos & electronic keyboards who are unhappy that their instruments could not be repaired due to replacement circuit boards being no longer available, and so, some changed to acoustic pianos, and some changed to midi controller keyboards paired with their PCs or laptops, where computer parts are more readily available for repairs.
@@nayirmada5124 I mentioned in my comments at one of Jeremy's earlier videos that I sold off my Korg LP380 digital piano after almost 2 years of ownership. Fortunately I did because I later found out that Korg replaced that model with an 'upgraded' version, the LP380U with an additional USB port, and that its electronic circuit boards are not 100% reverse compatible with the older LP380, which means I would not likely to be able to get spare LP380 replacement boards for repairs after the LP380 has been discontinued.
Biggest reasons for me is they stay in tune and are portable ...
Yes, those are big reasons for me too!
How important it is to have an acoustic piano is a largely subjective issue. Arguably, they have more soul/character. A good one will be very inspiring to a child. I used to hug mine from the side and feel it vibrate through me as I played single notes.
But as an adult I have never been able to afford such a good acoustic piano and I am very happy with my existing digital piano. It cost well under 1500 euros about 6 years ago. Now you get even more for that money and there are quite useable digital pianos starting at about 300 euros.
Owning a piano was a slightly elitist thing. Now we can say that the piano has been democratised, and accordingly, these are exciting times for buddying pianists with modest budgets.
Sadly, many digital pianos are mistreated, and this is unnecessary. They get stored badly instead of kept ready to play, or they get dust, eraser rubbings and liquids in them. If a key starts sticking, that is hard to fix and very discouraging to any player.
But acoustic pianos are even more demanding on their location - they hate outer walls, excessive humidity or excessive dryness.
So, before choosing any piano, we should think where it will live in our home. And if we are likely to move home often, well that's even more reason for buying a digital piano.
Eraser rubbings. Yup one of the quickest way to get a patchy key contact.
I was vexed by the issue of portability. You have always been able to pick up your guitar, violin, horn, or even your tuba and run. But never an acoustic piano. Now you can toss a digital keyboard in your car or bring it with you on the plane or bus. Even if you can't bring it with you, you can ship it across the United States for maybe $150 at the most. Or just replace if it is some years old and obsolete and you have the money to do so. My life possibly could have been very different if good digital keyboards had existed back in dark ages of the 60s and 70s. I had access to college practice pianos and did study and practice but that ended once I was out on the street.
Always love your videos, Jeremy. Wondering why your covid videos from late 2019 disappeared. I think about those a lot. Your channel was the first I ever saw anything about anything.
Helpful as always.
All this is true, but nothing will %100 replicate the grand piano, and nothing will feel as good as a grand, there is just something about the grand that hits different
Even a decent acoustic too, like the price difference is there and hence the sound quality and the feeling of striking a real piano is just different..
Mr. See, a review for the Korg Liano would be awesome. I'm a beginner and the product/pricepoint is very attractive. Appreciate the channel, tysm
I fully agree! I recently sold my upright acoustic piano and bought a Casio GP510. This piano is excellent and can replace any acoustic piano in any repertoire. I also have a DGX670 portable piano to use for performances and as a study piano. I don't plan on buying another acoustic anytime soon.
How are the slippery GP-510 Casio keys!?
Why? Just why?
this video is a good start point to newcomers!
Excellent and very useful video for many shopping for keyboards/pianos. You covered all points and factors well. I recall long ago, in one of my long comments, I mentioned many of the points in this video.
As stated, only certain people need a traditional acoustic upright or grand piano, even less need a top tier uber expensive grand piano, such as a very professional player and/or someone with lots of resources, and a big home or other facilities that they would want one.
As far as any acoustic or electronic/digital piano/keyboard, you get whatv ou pay for, but today, you can get decently realistic and high quality sounds, and keyboard action, and various build qualities and features, often for very affordable prices.
There are so many choices of keyboards that fit the needs, wants and budgets of most anyone. You often get what was not available in the past, or at a small fraction of the cost.
Long ago, an acoustic upright, or grand piano, or heavy organ was all that was available. Early portables were cheesy, lacked features, decent sound, durability and easy portability, built in application, battery power, and more. And you may just want or need a 61 note keyboard with decent action and velocity sensitivity, without needing fully weighted piano keys.
Consider yourselves blessed. No having to lug an acoustic piano, Rhodes or Wulizter electric piano and organ, when you can have a portable keyboard with all that and more, in one keyboard you can carry yourself. And don't forget just being able to listen with headphones to not disturb others, especially at night, and if your playing is awful. 😜
If you want something better, out of your present budget, it is worth doing your research, and save up to get what you want, if it is a good and practical choice that won't detrimentally or adversely impact your lifestyle quality, and resources to get your necessities and extra money for other needs, and not go out of your means.
You can work overtime/extra hours if available, or find things to do to make extra cash to get what you want.
Don't forget all the necessary items and accessories you want and need, such as power adapters, pedals, and such if not included.
Also, headphones, audio and computer interface cables, external amplification, keyboard/music stands, piano bench or suitable chair, and a gig bag/carrying case if you intend to take the keyboard with you, or travel, that would need a hard case.
Well said! 😊
Jeremy. A funny story, with some interesting piano history.
When I was very young, my father provided for us well, and always bought the best things that he could. We had an upright piano made by Cable-Nelson. I never heard of the brand back then, from what I knew of pianos, like Steinway, etc., but I just looked it up, and they were around at the start of the 20th century under various names and mergers over the years, affiliated later with Hammond and Wulitzer, and known for making high quality pianos, built in Chicago, and later, Michigan, if I remember right. They ceased production long ago, but the parent company Everett was bought out by Yamaha, and production of the acoustic pianos were started up again, now in China, but still known for quality pianos. Our piano was either made in 1960 or 1965 by production list and serial numbers.
Over the years, it stayed at our family home my older brother took over after my father passed away, and my sisters and myself moved to different locations.
We put the piano in storage for several years, but decided to donate it to my friends small church to let their youth use it. They came to pick it up. It didn't make it.
Unbeknownst to us, it was termite eaten. It seemed fine and playable, structurally sound, but fell apart during transit.
It was sad, but yet hilarious.
So, as you stated in your video, acoustic pianos are not the most practical to purchase outside of the parameters we mentioned. Like lots of other things, we revere and appreciate them, but I don’t see how the acoustic piano industy can stay in business in these present times, for the most part. I'd hate to see them go, but the electronic/digital variations, even the upright and baby grand hybrid variations are much more affordable and practical, and even more so, the majority would be satisfied with a 61/76/88 key digital keyboard or piano that is so much more compact, light and portable, with all the advantages mentioned.
Presently, I will be happy with just a Casio CT-S1 for my home audio arsenal, but the Yamaha PSR-EW425 is tempting to get for my church. Or a Casio Privia PX-1100.
The Casio Privia PX-S5000 just came out, also the PX-S6000/S7000, or soon to be out.
The PX-S5000 is supposedly a great upgrade and improvement from the PX-S1100, but for it's price. I would get the two year-old Roland RD 88 which is light-years ahead in many ways. But it's great to have all the choices.
Jeremy, you really hit all the advantages of a digital piano very well. It's something I've thought about a lot, ever since I bought one of the first affordable synths back in the 1980s, the Casio CZ1000, for which I paid $550. I was hoping it would stop me from buying a real piano, and it didn't, but today's digital pianos definitely would. The differences between that 1980s Casio and my keyboard now, a Roland FP-30, are enormous, and I got the Roland on sale for $450 about five years ago. In the last 10 years or so, digital pianos have come to the point where they should be the no-brainer choice for any student or piano lover, or piano-curious person, unless they are a serious pianist in love with the acoustic piano and have the money to afford a decent one.
And the sound quality and ease of recording is a huge advantage of a digital, especially for a composer like myself (click on the T to the left of this comment to hear one of my several recent classical compositions using artificial intelligence by OpenAI Labs). I don't need expensive microphones or just the right acoustic environment for the piano to sound good in a recording. One of my older MIDI recordings of a violin accompaniment for the Massenet Meditation has 230,000+ views, and has been used and loved even by college violin majors in recitals, so it can't be that bad compared to a "real" piano. I'm not even playing the piano in these recent AI compositions, but use the keyboard for some things, like playing intros I upload to the AI.
The advances of digital pianos struck me when I discovered CZcamsr Francesco Parrino, playing his original covers for various pop songs on his $2500 Casio, but like me, he doesn't use the sound that comes with his piano, but a separate software VST piano for recording. In the last few years, Steinway discovered his talents and all his songs are now done on an expensive acoustic Steinway grand. Yet, shockingly, the stuff he recorded on his Casio, I like the sound better! I haven't found this to be true with digital piano and classical music, yet, but with pop music, and Francesco playing, I love the sound of his digital piano VST.
Acoustic pianos are a mechanically complicated wonder, very contrived when you think about it, and a lot can go wrong with them. I had a new one which wouldn't hold tune well at all. It would go way out of tune in a month. It was a new Baldwin studio (large) upright. My second upright piano after that was a less expensive large upright, without the name recognition, but held tune incredibly well. It was a beautiful sounding upright and I sold it to a friend, after I'd spent so much having it moved four times during the time I owned it. I just didn't play it anymore. I play other instruments also.
Given that I grew up, self-teaching on a real hunk-of-junk upright, a full step out of tune, until I bought a tuning hammer and tuned it myself as a kid, the Roland I own now would have been a dream to own when I was young.
Was the Baldwin made in the US? I know acoustic pianos need a lot of care, but I also hear Baldwins made in China aren't what they use to be when they were made in the US🎹🎶
In Which country was this Baldwin produced?
What was the brand and model of the other upright that held the tone better than Baldwin did?
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12that’s true
@@bandar7891Baldwin was made in the U.S. Baldwin was considered the best quality of pianos in the US that was also affordable.
A good friend of mine lent me his Roland Fantom 7. I will slowly pay for it, of course. But my dream of wanting to have a traditional acoustic piano, I happily threw that dream in the trash bin. 😁
Hi Jeremy, while I generally like you videos very much (great work!), it has always been a problem that the links in the descriptions don't match exactly what is said (or shown) in the videos. Example from this video: "Recommended Digital Pianos with Huge Color Display in the description" - which link(s) in the description is this actually supposed to refer to? Maybe you could improve this. Cheers :)
Exactly!! Why claim the links are there when they don't match?
Hi Jeremy! Quick question, I am currently doing trinity grade 3 keyboard and am thinking of taking the exam in December then changing to piano grade 4 and do that exam in june/July. Do you think that would be too hard for a school boy or possible enough to try?
Is Casio Privia PX S-7000 a good piano for beginners? Recently i started being really interested in pianos and i wanna know which digital piano i should buy
For me I just tune by myself but for whole restoration I would call expertise
Jeremy I have a nice Yamaha Montage 6 synth. However I realize that I need weighted keys for my piano learning adventures. Would you suggest I buy a digital piano or should I just buy a weighted midi keyboard for my synth? I've seen your videos on midi keyboards but I'm still unsure whether the action will match that of a digital piano. I am considering either the Yamaha P515 piano or the Arturia keylab 88 MkII midi keyboard and I am really undecided at this point. Thanks.
How about the MODX8? It's like the MODX6, but with weighted keys🎹🎶
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Digital pianos and keyboards are definitely good for convenience and I would certainly recommend a digital piano
for an absolutely beginner especially for children learning to play. Digital pianos are also more fun for someone
starting out especially as many of them now have a very comprehensive selection of different instrument sounds.
Maybe if your starting out you don't necessarily want to be a pianist, maybe later down the line you might be more
into midi sequencing. Digital pianos have come a very long way in the last 20 years so there is no excuse to complain
about the sound quality, even a Casio Privia or a Yamaha Clavinova from the late 2000s is realistic enough to sound
convincing from outside the room. I would say definitely start with a digital piano then maybe later consider an acoustic
piano if your absolutely serious.
I have a question what are the best value and best sounding synth sounds for the keyboards?
While a digital piano cannot compare with a finely crafted, high end acoustic piano, every single point made here is valid. For the vast majority of musicians a digital piano has so many obvious and significant advantages. However, we still need to keep the acoustic piano industry alive, so let’s never forget where the acoustic piano wins out in this debate (sound quality/character, realism, action).
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Merci Jérémy.
It would be cool a vídeo about the new Donner Dek 610-p and the great upgrades between Dek 610 original
Watching your videos I bought PSR E473 a good keyboard for rough use
Do you think a sampled Steinway can come close to the real thing with good speakers?
Probably threw good headphones, however it's still not quite the same🎹🎶
Spectrasonics Keyscape Collection is probably the best, or one of the best virtual software programs for acoustic, electric pianos and other classic and vintage keyboards, and there are many others. But yes, ultimately, sound quality and realism is also subject to amplification hardware, speakers/headphones, headphone amps, D/A converters and other audio hardware devices. And also, software, cables, and the connections, and room/ acoustics van be contributing factors for live sound and/or recording.
I have 10 different keyboards in my house...what do I play 80% of the time? My early 90s Young Chang U1 clone. I tune it myself. Why? You will never understand unless you are in the same room. Simply no comparison, as with any acoustic instrument, but since recordings require speakers or headphones, which push little cones up and down, you can’t compare unless you are physically present. If I want to be quiet I grab a nylon guitar, or just play very soft :)
Very true. In some cases, a $2000 digital piano from Casio can beat a $2000 upright in _both_ sound and feel
You are right, but even a 3000 dollar secondhand upright might not feel and sound as good as the 2000 dollar digital. Furthermore the maintenance cost on the upright will be equal to or higher than that of a superior upright. At about 4K it gets hard to say whether a digital or a secondhand upright is better value.
Acoustic pianos last longer (with obvious resale benefits) but that added value is cancelled by the cost of maintenance.
When did you expecting the next keyboard on the Yamaha dgx series
I think I agree with you. Digital pianos sound so realistic now you wouldn't even noticed the difference.
You would if you play them. If you listen from a far due to the room acoustics it would probably be a lot harder. Kinda like looking at a doted picture. The closer you go the more ovvious the dots become, but if you move back far away the harder it is to see the dots🎹🎶
I have Yamaha U3A, Yamaha P121 digital piano and MODX7. For fun and recording music making purposes, I will definitely use MODX7 and P121. But for serious sound and touch purposes, I will go for my U3A because there are overtones and resonance that digital pianos and synthesizer cannot reproduce. This overtones and resonance fill up the whole living room with a power which digital piano cannot produce.
All, that is absolutely true 🙂 But, nothing can change the acoustic touchbed, not even the most expensive digital piano. Nothing! And, used room acoustic piano (upright), in some rich world are given for free. All you need is to organize shipping. As you mention, it is not a easy task. But, the feel, the sound of acoustic piano is real thing that nothing can replace that.
I hope you watched till the conclusion part of the video. 🤭
I own real acoustics and they most certainly cannot be replaced. That wonderful "bar tone" you get when one of your three strings on a key is off by 1 Hz and produces a tacky sound that requires you to either 1) call the piano tuner ($100+), 2) deal with it OR 3) learn to become a tuner yourself (frustrating). Acoustic pianos are great when you have unlimited funds, unlimited space, a perfectly treated room, climate controlled, an expensive high-quality instrument ($20k+), and an expert tuner on speed dial. Otherwise, go for the digital and never look back.
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Digital pianos nowadays definitely are a lot beter, but compared to a whell made acoustic grand piano if I had the space I'd go for the realthing. I tried a YDP145, and as much as I love the sound it still wouldn't compare to a real CFX. That said I would be quite ok with the YDP. I don't have anything against digitals in fact I own 1 I just don't think a digigal at the moment especially under 1,000 dollars can fully simulate a 9'0" concert grand, however like I said I'm perfectly ok with digital🎹🎶
Hope you watched my conclusion at the end of the video
@@JeremySee yes I did🎹🎶
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9:44 - What if you're using Musicolet? 😎
You don't have to recruit someone to tune the keyboard which is expensive
i thought having an acoustic piano is just set and forget. i dont know it needs maintenance which is costly
600 sounds, many of which the world could do without. And others of use only to specialized musicians, mixers and arrangers.
I love digital pianos
Put rechargeable batteries then charge it using Solar. It's clean and green.
Are you talking about if the 'grid' goes kaput?
They are better until the power goes out in your house. In a post-apocalyptic world without electricity, the acoustic piano is the way to go
Oh my, I thought I was the only one who thinks like this too!I 😏
The new Privia supports 8 AA batteries and you can use rechargeable ones and charge it using Solar. Digital pianos is the way to go.
@@See_Sharp yes, but it doesn't sound like or feel like an acoustic piano🎹🎶
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 Acoustics are overrated. I think most people who romanticize them dont actually own one.
@@matthewphillips5483 I own 1, and played several others. I know a good digital is always beter than a bad acoustic, however nothing beets a well made grand. Having said that I'm perfectly fine with my digital and upright as of now🎹🎶
Actually even cheap Acoustic use High Quality wood (Spruce) , Cast sand Iron plates ....To this Day the Best Digitals comparable to Acoustic piano are Kawai NV5S , YAMAHA Avant Grand, Casio GP-510, Roland LX708 but the sound of the ROLAND is a disappointment to Acoustic enthusiasts
I think it's all down to the level of refinement🎹🎶
In time , digitals will surpass acoustic piano's... why? Because they can evolve much faster, en there are more possibilities to evolve.
From this video, it comes off that digital pianos are *objectively and arguably* better than acoustic ones - which I hope that I don't have to say its not true... There are aspects for both in which one is better than the other. Most of the points you're making are totally fine, but a few of them are ABSOLUTELY subjective... (For example, I've never thought that my acoustic piano should have more sounds; to me, that's complete nonsense, so this is why I'm saying it's subjective) There are so many things you could say in the defense of traditional pianos, and without mentioning EVEN ONE, this turned out to be a very one-sided video, and I think it's very misleading for someone who doesn't have any experience with pianos, or with musical instrument in general...
I disagree