Nama J2 Slow Juicer vs Pure Cold Press - Which Reigns Supreme?
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- John from www.discountjuicers.com/ and David, owner of Pure Juicers have a juicing debate. SAVE $55 off the Nama J2 Juicer WORLDWIDE by using coupon COLDPRESS10 at Namawell.com. Order at www.bit.ly/j2juicer Buy the Pure Juicer for the lowest price at www.bit.ly/purejuicer
In this episode, John from discountjuicers.com engages in a lively discussion with David, the founder of Pure Juicer. Despite sharing a passion for juicing, they present differing perspectives on various aspects of juicing and the juicers themselves. While they both acknowledge the health benefits of juicing, their debate revolves around which juicer reigns supreme in terms of design, functionality, and nutritional output.
David champions the Pure Juicer, emphasizing its engineering excellence and focus on quality materials, such as stainless steel. He highlights its two-stage hydraulic press as a superior method for extracting juice, asserting its ability to preserve nutrients effectively. On the other hand, John argues for the versatility and convenience of juicers like the Nama J2, acknowledging their plastic construction but emphasizing their accessibility and ease of use.
The conversation delves into nuanced topics such as the importance of vegetable juices over fruit juices for health, the efficacy of different juicing methods, and the optimal storage techniques for preserving juice freshness. Despite their disagreements, both John and David maintain a respectful dialogue, inviting viewers to form their own opinions and engage in the ongoing debate surrounding juicing practices and equipment.
Jump to the following parts of this episode:
00:00 Episode Starts
00:15 John Kohler & David Feinberg of Pure Juicers
01:26 Sharing Our Thoughts on Various Juicing Questions
01:46 Why Juice?
03:08 Is it better to Juice Fruits or Vegetables?
04:28 Is the Pure Juicer or Nama J2 Juicer Best?
08:35 How do you clean these machines?
14:48 How do these juicers work?
17:58 The Downside of the Pure Juicer
18:52 Why is having a Cold Press so important?
21:45 Get the Most Nutritious Juice if You Do this
25:01 Are the enzymes the most important part of the juice?
27:02 David's experience Storing Juices
28:05 Is it always best to Make Your Juice and Store it Right after you make it?
28:55 What is the best way to store your juice?
29:35 Why I do not like freezing juicing
31:45 How long can juices be stored in the fridge?
34:10 Best to Select the Freshest Vegetables to Juice
37:32 How much Vacuum do you need to pull when storing your juice?
38:25 Sneak Peak: Pure Juicer Manual Vacuum Pump - Strongest I have seen
41:29 Juicing topics we both agree upon summary.
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#### Summary in bullet points
Discussion between John from discountjuicers.com and David, founder of Pure Juicer, about juicing and different juicers.
Both agree on the importance of juicing for health and the benefits of consuming nutrient-dense vegetables and leafy greens.
They emphasize the superiority of vegetable juices over fruit juices for health benefits.
Debate over the efficacy and qualities of different juicers, particularly the Pure Juicer and Nama J2, highlighting differences in design, material quality, and yield.
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We used the Pure juicer to cure our baby’s liver cancer 🙏🏽
This is absolutely my favorite video from Discount Juicers. Thank you!!!
I have had some people inquire as to the "enzyme damage to the certain nutrients in the juice" (polyphenols). Pure juicer has PROVEN it has more enzymatic activity (in general)) cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0111/7369/1473/files/household-juice-extractor-comparison-and-optimization.pdf?v=1665598809
in the juice, which on some levels, may be a good thing, as enzymes break down nutrients and create anti-cancer compounds in brassica family plants and onion family plants, for example. But also enzymes can BREAK down, and LOWER nutrients such as polyphenols. So there are reasons why you may want to have MORE OR LESS enzymatic activity in the juice. If you doubt the science that I am sharing, please refer to the article pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/jf60205a058 that states, " The total phenolics ranged from 25 mg/100 ml in juices from well-oxidized pulps to 150 mg/100 ml in juices made with minimal enzymatic oxidation." In this case if total phenolics are important to you, it is important to have the LEAST oxidized pulp, as in this study it make a 6x difference. I have been juicing now for 29 years and do my best to share all the information I have learned in my videos so that YOU don't have to do all the research, experimentation and juice drinking that I have done over the years.
How about juicing in the dynapro 6250 with alexa nut milk bag...best of all??
@@marramamba7629 YES good point, I Would agree vacuum juicing is even superior IMO to the pure in most all respects, however not everything can be easily vacuum juiced, ie: root veggies without adding water. I compare vac juicing and pure in the video: czcams.com/video/eEPQ8tuPQV4/video.html
I have both when I’m in a hurry I use my nama and take the waste and press it in my pure I get anywhere between 12-20 more ounces of juice and it doesn’t separate in the fridge like my nama does in 3-4 days . I like both
Thank you, pretty much everyone who has used both says that.
If you mix the "Pure pressed" leftover pulp from the Nama with the juice from the Nama...does that cause the juice to not separate?
Loved this show. Thank you both for your character and generosity
Great video guys! Early on when I started to juice the ultimate unicorn juicer was said to be a Norwalk two stage hydraulic press..After saving my money I finally purchased one and it was a huge disappointment in the quality of construction..$2500 for a machine that had very shoddy craftsmanship..The Pure juicer definitely took that Norwalk design into the 21st Century and brought forth a beautifully designed and crafted juicer where the Norwalk never bothered to fix its fatal flaws..There is no denying the ease of use with the Nama ..The team behind Nama seems very committed to producing a quality juicer for a Health conscious consumer.. My money would be on a Pure Juicer for long term use,Quality and Quantity of juice..We all benefit from people like David and John who are passionate about juicing and bringing forth awareness about these different aspects of juicing..As consumers we all want quality for our hard earned dollars..
I own an older Norwalk Juicer and find it to be of great quality. Not sure why you say the quality to construction and craftsmanship is shoddy. Please explain what the benefits of upgrading to a Pure juicer would be?
I agree. That said, when Norwalk went under it would only be a matter of time before theses machines became hard to fix...if they ever broke. I would say the norwalk is built great but the Pure has MUCH thicker top and bottom plates where you can press indefinitely. Is it worth switching?? No. Wait till yours no longer operates. a.n 0:21 H@@setfreemiss
I want the pump and the pure juicer. Awesome dude and company
I had Pure juicer for two years, thought it was too heavy to clean for my little wrist. Then I got Nama J2, after first cleaning of the Nama J2, I decided to return, it requires much more work to clean. Now I back to Pure Juicer, I feel it's the easiest juicer to clean. can't wait to buy the vacuum pump.
how could anyone actually say Nama is better than the pure juicer? the Nama is about making juicing much easier to do. that's its emphasis. the pure juicer is the rolls Royce of all juicers, focused on quality. it is in a league of its own. how can anyone seriously compare hardened plastic to a stainless steel machine? the significant price difference ends the debate before it begins.
I love fact to fact comparisons, at one time I had my eye on that Pure press, but the fact that you have to process the product by that fast chopping turned me away, I thought of the old high speed juicer that heated the product, somewhat cooking it . I bought the Kuvings first and loved it, still have it, but I bought and use the NamaJ2. Thanks again for the debate- stay friends!
Love the pure juicer. Juice is not the least bit grainy and the pressed veg comes out totally dry. It really maximises the juice proportions acquired vs the quantity from other juicers. Enjoyed this episode. Looking forward to more like these. Very informative
Thank you John, for your vast knowledge of juicing and your unique ability to teach us the best way to achieve the most nutritious juice with the highest yields.
Unlike the slow juicers the Pure and Norwalk juicers masticate the fruit and vegetables at high speed (3,450 rpm) and oxidizes the mash and kills polyphenols
and other nutrients. As we have learned from John the Pure juicer is superior to the Norwalk with the improvements that David has made and has the highest
yield of any juicer.
Currently I vacuum blend with my custom electric pump @ 23"Hg and enjoy yields as good as the Pure juicer using John's favorite easy to clean "Alexis Bags".
Celery juice as good as 93% yield with a minimum loss of nutrients. I have also refrigerated juice(33°F) in quart jars under Vacuum for up to 42 days and still drinkable.
This would definitely not be recommended using a food saver with less than 10"Hg Vacuum, 3-4 days would be pushing it.
Happy juicing!
Can you share the build on your custom pump and the total cost?
Well done! I also vacuum blend and use the alexas bags. Lots of work but excellent juice.
Jump to the following parts of this episode:
00:15 John Kohler & David Feinberg of Pure Juicers
01:26 Sharing Our Thoughts on Various Juicing Questions
01:46 Why Juice?
03:08 Is it better to Juice Fruits or Vegetables?
04:28 Is the Pure Juicer or Nama J2 Juicer Best?
08:35 How do you clean these machines?
14:48 How do these juicers work?
17:58 The Downside of the Pure Juicer
18:52 Why is having a Cold Press so important?
21:45 Get the Most Nutritious Juice if You Do this
25:01 Are the enzymes the most important part of the juice?
27:02 David's experience Storing Juices
28:05 Is it always best to Make Your Juice and Store it Right after you make it?
28:55 What is the best way to store your juice?
29:35 Why I do not like freezing juicing
31:45 How long can juices be stored in the fridge?
34:10 Best to Select the Freshest Vegetables to Juice
37:32 How much Vacuum do you need to pull when storing your juice?
38:25 Sneak Peak: Pure Juicer Manual Vacuum Pump - Strongest I have seen
41:29 Juicing topics we both agree upon summary.
I really like this competition for the benefits of the costumer! May you continue doing this because we as consumers maybe ignorant of many details of the quality of the machine and also of the veggies and fruits! I really love this program! John, blessing for you for you dedication.
Great video! In times where everyone thinks a collaboration is about agreeing or drama.. this is a perfect example of sharing your views and facts help people become more informed about what they might consider important to them especially when juicing.
How many decades of juicing with the Pure would it take to "pay for itself"?
I wish I could've seen the Pure juicer used in this video.
Really enjoyed this! Hope for more! Alot to chew on. Will listen again..
All this talk about getting rid of extra pulp. I actually love the pulp and what it contains. I use the included Nama Smoothie Screen in place of the Juicing Screen in order to add more pulp. Delicious!
I’m a soap maker so the pulp gets incorporated into my soaps. It feels great to care for skin inside and out!🎀
@@HB-yk4ut wow! thats a great Idea. I never heard that one before
@@HB-yk4ut WOW!! that's amazing. You remind me of my mom. God bless her soul. On any given day if you stopped by her house, you could've ell what fruit she had that morning because you could see it on her face. LOL. If she had a mango, she'd take the skin and rub it on her face, etc. She used to say, if it's good for the inside it's better for the outside too. She had very beautiful skin. You couldn't tell her age just by looking at her.
Really enjoyed this episode!!!
I purchased the PURE juicer in 2016 as a gift to myself.
I love it.
Thank you
Meredith
John I admire your shows seriously. I have two Solostar juicers because of you and your shared knowledge andcI have an Omega Juicer and bkender and a vitamix too. Dr.Brooke Goldner reversed her Lupus with green smoothies and flaxseeds and water consumption. Dr Greger has shown scientific lab results showing blended smoothies atre vastly superior in nutrition to juices and that fruit juice is dangerous in large amounts. John I make Green Juices four times a week and absolutely love kove them with my Solostar and I bkend green smoothies daily or eat a huge green salad. Dr. Brooke Goldner has had patients reverse heart diseases and diabetes with green smoothies with s Vitamix. Look her up. I reversed pre diabetes too. You are correct that horizontal juicers are best for leafy greens and low sugar Juices. I learned juicing from Jay Kordhich in 1991. Look up Dr Greger juicing vs blending results and Dr. Brooke Goldner green smoothies. Again I absolutely love liove making and drinking green juices. That Solostar is utterly magnificent. Thank-you Sir.
The other downside of the Pure Juice grinder is that its a high speed grinder. Like centrifugal juicer
The 3450 rpm is misleading because the produce does not stay in contact with cutting blade for a whole minute. At a full second in the cutting area the food would be exposed to 57rps of the blade. The food exits the cutting Shute in less than a second in my experience. The oxidation from the cutting mechanism alone is probably similar to the slower auger types in reality. Maybe even more oxidation occurs in the slow juicers due to the fact that food can be exposed to longer times in the auger/hopper juicers than a minute in my experience. Also the slow juicers always have much more foam than the high rpm of the pure juicer. Which signifies more oxygen in the juice.
@@applegater355that’s exactly correct
It’s nothing like a centrifugal juicer, which cuts by friction, and then flings the pulp through the air to oxidize it. The pure cuts super quickly, does not overheat the produce, and does not cause oxidization.
@@PurejuicerHI David. Is there a good way to juice the stems of parsley and to some extent cilantro? Maybe I am using the wrong grid (#10). The stems just don't want to cut and the heat starts to build. Different grid or major chopping of the stems? Thank you. Oh, I'll take the steel over the plastic toys any day. Pure is SUPER easy to clean as well!
I want PRUE to come up with an all metal self feeding type juicer which has the same or more yield compared to their current hydraulic juicer
I agree!
Thank you for the discussion on the juicers. I learned a lot. I need to start juicing!!!
How about putting a longer warranty on such an very expensive juicer..
The Pure Juicer should be compared with the Angel Juicer, the Nama J2 is not good enough 😂
Very informative video. I love the combative comradery between them. Excellent info. I was hoping that they were going to do a price comparison. I'm going to buy a Nama J2 because I already own a Green Star Pro which is a pain to use but the juice quality and taste is great and the amount you get is amazing depending on what you're juicing. oh well.
hey John. Love all the videos, so much so that I just bought my first juicer. I wanted to buy the Kuvings Auto10 with your discount but they wouldn't ship to Thailand and my budget wouldn't stretch to paying about $750-800 to buy it here. So I bought a 2nd-hand Kuvings Evo 820.(for $140 !) - it makes great juice but the auger always gets badly clogged up - that slows the juicing down to a trickle and also causes pulp to accumulate in the feeding bowl because it can't slide down through the auger. It also makes the washing-up afterwards very messy!
is there anything I can do about it? Am I maybe assembling it incorrectly or is it just a fact of life with the Evo 820. I'm using spinach/kale with pineapple...or beetroot with apple/another fruit. I do try reversing it to give it a nudge. I've also tried pouring some water down to try to loosen the pulp but that doesn't work - cheers
Hi John, I enjoyed this content very much. Is there a way to buy the Pure hand pump currently?
Have a beautiful day 🦋
Not yet, hopefully 4th quarter of 2024.
John, would you keep us posted when this comes out? Perhaps a video on usage. 🦋
@@HB-yk4ut YES! as soon as this is available or more information is available, I will have a video on it
John, what is the best set up?
Is the best to just put it in a Blendtec with a void vacuum lid ?
And then after that, put it in one of those hydraulic hand pump presses you also sell on your site?
Thank you for all your great information.
Okay. Keep it light guys! No fighting!😂😂😂
Great show!! I have the Nama J2 but I love the pure too!
Pure juicer 1.5 to 2k
Nama 2 550.00
David pointed out that the pure makes 40% more yield, so the pure pays for itself.
@algolfan1 this is true and I'm all about the yield, but for the convenience I'd rather get the nama 2.
@@algolfan1 That is correct he pointed that out. That being said, depending on WHAT is being juiced and the juicer being used, the J2 can also make up to 40% more yield, for example in this video czcams.com/video/P5cMT_XLZrw/video.html I believe I make 40% more yield in the j2 than the brevile when juicing tangerines. That being said, comparing Pure to J2 will get maybe 10%-30% more yield, depending on what is being juiced. In some cases the J2 may even make a similar yield to the pure as I show in this episode: czcams.com/video/r9Bmb85ycOQ/video.html
So mount a food processor on top of the Nama to pre-slice/ coarse grind the produce before the auger.
The maximum pressure in the Nama would be at the output chute at the bottom of the auger. How much pressure that pushes the remaining pulp out at that chute's input.
Good video. I've been watching your videos but I don't see any videos with Goodnature juicers like the M-1 ?
I deal with home juicers mostly, the M1 is a commercial grade machine, basically its a 2 stage grind and press style machine. I personally would prefer the Pure Juicer over the M1, myself.
@@discountjuicers Thank You for your reply... But a bit late... I already went with the M1... Waiting on shipping info. But mainly 2 reasons I went with the M1. Noise level & Grinding goes straight into pressing bag (seems simpler). Yes, M1 is more for comercial settings but can be used for home. You should consider reviewing the M1... Would have been nice to see a comparison with other juicers. Again, Thanks for the reply.
It is difficult seeing anyone feeling less than the other; it looked very uncomfortable for both men, but I watched it because I figured their would be great information through their pressuring each other of trying to fit in massive accurate information about each, and so it was extra informative for that reason. 🐳✨
Does anyone know. I have an older Norwalk juicer. Does the Pure make a higher quality juice than the Norwalk or are they the same?
Same. You can press much longer with the Pure though. More drops of juice with longer press time
I prefer the slow juicer and I also prefer the juice with some pulp in it, even if there is less juice at the end. It's just my opinion.
I also use the Zwilling electric vacuum pump, but not for juices, which I drink straight away. I use it to store all my foods sous vide in the refrigerator.
Where does vacuum juicing (not vacuum storage) fit into this conversation?
Can you only make coconut milk, cream, or butter with NANA J2, Dyna PRO Vacuum, & PURE COLD PRESS.
I don't want particulate in my juice. that's why Nama came out with an additional screen to help you sift it out. the pure juicer does this for you.
Pure juicer isn’t affordable and too bulky the Nama j2 is affordable and does an amazing job!!!
Nama hands down! Like John said, the best Juicer is the one you're going to use. And I don't expect anyone would have a hard time with the Nama due to its ease of use. I would purchase the Nama and then purchase the Pure pump.
I’m going to buy me a pump for sure. I absolutely do love my Nama with the 3 liter hopper!
Fight, fight, fight!
Im buying the nama J2
but I will aim for the pure juicer price point
I had the slow masticating omega juicer and finding replacement parts are a nightmare. They arent great to their customers. it gave me a good 4 year run
Just bought the C2, thinking of returning it for the Pure, before this video though!
As health conscious as John is, with all these juicers being made out of plastic and what we now know about plastic being leached into food, I'm curious what his views are on this. I agree with David about the warranty wars. The biggest thing to note is that a long even lifetime warranty means noting if the company goes out of business. I really, I mean really want the Pure but it's so expensive, for my needs. I fear I'd spend all that money and then end up not using it as much as I should. I have had an Omega VRT350 for many years and had used it often but it's turned into counter decoration. So for now I just drink a lot of Matcha Green Tea, which has more antioxidants than anything.
Do I see a phone jack outlet on the wall in the background? Do houses still have those? lol
Apples 🍎 & Oranges 🍊
What we are all looking for is excellent health.
Good physical health.
Good emotional health.
Good mental health.
Good spiritual health.
We have to remember that juicing is one small part of a big picture. And certainly in each aspect of this picture we want to access the highest quality of result.
Organic Eating, Organic Juicing, Optimal Exercise, Adequate Stretching & Alignment, Strength Training, Biohacking methods for longevity and healing such as hyperbaric, redlight therapy, high powered PEMF, scalar wave devices, meditation, conscious dance, self love, tantra, mantra, brain wave therapy, optimal sleep routines…
I see juicing as one aspect of a larger wholistic picture in living a great life filled with love and energy and goodness. 🎉❤
At the 27th minute David's, discussions arose regarding the longevity of the Pure Juicer in the refrigerator, stemming from various investigations. This raised questions about why certain items, particularly juices, last longer when refrigerated. Typically, whole fruits endure longer storage periods compared to their juiced counterparts, as exposure to oxygen in the refrigerator accelerates deterioration. The inquiry delved into the filtration disparity between the Nama and the Pure Juicer models: the Nama allows thicker substances into the juice, which consumers often dislike, while the Pure boasts a filter to prevent this. This inconsistency prompts curiosity and warrants further exploration. Although extended shelf life in the refrigerator is generally viewed positively, it prompts reflection on the nature of the item's transformation over time and the metrics used to gauge it
I want a vacuum pump, but I do not want to wait until the 4th quarter. Work faster on the pump.😊 Thank you.
Buy a cheap one while you wait, you will appreciate the difference that much more. If we can deliver faster we will.
I have the purple one and the white one with blue ends. Thoes work great. But 27 1/2 is better.
When comparing these two juicers, for me: the juicer that I will use. And for me it is 1) how fast it is, from start till finish, including prepping the produce, up until having cleaned EVERYTING. Besides that, what my budget is for all the equipment.
Mam oh man, when will the people ever learn, if it is not on Amazon, it is OVER PRICED.
I can’t wait for the pump for mason jars!!!
13:20 - Dave is hilarious 😂 Pure Comedy
1st the polyphony content can’t be measured on any machine, and it’s your opinion John that u suggest the j2 could have more of it than the Pure. As oppose to enzymes that can be measured, there r specific enzymes needed for specific GI dysfunctions and they could hurt if not measured properly for that reason. The need depends on the person balance activity. It’s a science not a hobby even though these machines r great to improving someone’s health. The fact u can increase your yield by 20% by pressing the remaining pulp from J2 into the Pure shows the superiority of Pure, it’s recycled waist at its best.
All of them r not American made unfortunately, I would choose stainless steel material over plastic even with the BPA free label. People’s health is compromised by time lacking and lifestyle that’s the price to pay. I would love to have the gut of these plastic gadgets made with stainless steel rather than plastic it would be so much better! John u mentioned of putting the ingredients in a specific order in J2 but I really don’t see the benefits since they mix in the tumbler and don’t descend like the way it was put in.
Great show.
It’s not enough of a difference for me to have that huge cost difference not to mention that big bulky ugly thing only my counter NO WAY!
Chinese made Norwalk copy?
Norwalk is now out of business. David is an American who designed this machine in the USA after repairing norwalks for 20+ years. He decided to get these manufactured in a WORLD CLASS factory in China to keep the cost down so people could afford his juicer. He backs it up with a 12 year warranty.
not everyone can afford the pure juicer. most influencers push the Nama because it has great return for them as affiliates and most can afford it. plus its easy to use. the pure juicer is also easy to use. some produce only requires pressing for example. but really, the pure juicer is for the discerning customer who is looking for highest quality juice from a lifetime machine with the best yield. why is this dumb video being made at all? does anyone truly honestly think a $400 machine beats a $2,000 machine?
I wouldn't respect David. David didn't invent anything. They stole the design from Norwalk. Sad.
While the design was that from the Norwalk, there are many improvements to the Pure Juicer that David innovated. I share them in my video czcams.com/video/C6a2LhBNvHg/video.html
That's like saying you don't have respect for any manufacturer/brand. Should the first person who invented the automobile be the only one to ever make automobiles? The first person who made a T-shirt? The list goes on.
This was a great video. Been juicing over 15 years. Once a week with 14 quarts of juice for me and my wife Using the nama for the last couple years…..I just got an itch to maybe upgrade to the pure after watching this. Beside the vitamix the Nama is the most used kitchen appliance. The nama is great but I’m on my second Nama base and auger because of the heavy use. Thanks gentlemen for your time.
@@jeffhogan7991 I agree, if you bought a pure, you would still be on the same motor. It is a better BUILT/SOLID machine, but then again you get what you pay for.
@@discountjuicers Besides a Pure, what other juicers would you recommend for producing the most yield?
Awesome video. Great discussion. I almost bought the Pure.
I hope one day The Pure will sell just a press to go side by side with my NamaJ2.