This Is An Xbox Controller
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2023
- It's mostly plastic.. Plastic Battalion
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I love how James was actually so careful to open that limited edition Xbox, but couldn't be bothered to look if there's a pdf of the controller's manual before playing
To be fair I didn’t look up how to safely remove the sticker either :(
@@Games_for_James Understandable, I bet those are designed specifically to end up messed up no matter what :(
@@Games_for_James I've seen it done where the outside coating isn't removed, they used a syringe to shoot it directly under the edge of the tamper seal after peeling up a corner, that way it didn't get on top of the sticker at all.
Deviant Ollam made one or more videos on bypassing tamper resistant seals, it might be worth a watch!
@@Games_for_James LTT has a video on how to safely remove warranty stickers, might be good to know for next time.
This is not simply *_AN_* XBox Controller. This is *_THE SUPREME_* XBox Controller.
One might even say THE X-TREME CONTROLLER
the most hardecore xbawks controler ever made
I have one of these but I want to see if theres someone who is able to restore it. It had a hard life before I bought it third + hand, and I only got to play the game a handful of times before my Xbox disk drive bit it.
I need to get the sticks fixed of drift, and I want to get an adapter to connect it via USB to my PC.
@@gmailisaretard softmod your xbox
@@FatswellSmart She is long gone, fell on hard times and had to throw away a lot of stuff I didn't have space for :'(
“So why’d you get a whole flight deck? Are you a heavy flight simulator enthusiast? A pilot in training?”
“Nah, just for some mech game on the OG Xbox.”
I like to imagine that this is a conversation between Dank and James
And sadly only ONE game (at this point, given the sequel was online multiplayer only) 🤦♂
Such an insanely badass control set but such wasted potential.
@@NordicDan There are some fan made programs and drivers out there that allow you to use it on PC for some games. Also, IIRC, custom servers to play Steel Battalion LOC.
@@Shendue Oh wow I didn't know about that! I'm gonna have to take a peek because I'd LOVE to be able to use this setup in some other games too.
There's a joke in the Armored Core community, about playing the games with a Steel Battalion controller.
James is making all eight of us jealous.
Can't be worse than D-pad + shoulder buttons…
James : people don't read games manual
James, people also don't buy a 4 part controller with 50 buttons and 3 pedals to play a single game. I think the target audience here actually would read the manual because they are the kind of people who'd buy this controller with intent to use every part of it
Intent to use every part of it, even the box (it's free real estate)
@@JeanMarceaux if you have a cat its controller and toy!
😮 me with dual virpls,throttle, and tobi eye tracker just to place star citizen
Apparently, not many people remember what you did when you couldn't play the game. I remember taking game manuals with me to school, reading every page like it was a guilty pleasure. The smell of a new game manual is intoxicating.
@@Dirigiusthe bathroom, church, etc...
If anything, this should be an arcade. Imagine having this as a kid back in the days, you’d be the coolest kid in school, having an Evangelion sim at home
There are a few mechwarrior/steel batallion arcade machines. A more casual one that showed up at a lot of chuck e cheese's, and a giant Sim pod that is much more rare.
Japanese mechs like Evangelion are so boring. They always over-exaggerate the body proportions, the mech movement and weapons. I prefer the more realistic stuff that Battletech shows, much more immersive this way.
@@damsen978I actually feel the same. So much so that I recently got into mechwarrior, and I prefer it over the latest armored core. If I'm going to play a mech game, I wanna feel like I'm a pilot in the cockpit of a huge machine.
Steel battalion looks like it's on a whole other level though. I'd love to have a modern game like this with hotas support.
It's better to just play them on VR at this point. You got all the controls there. The only thing lacking are probably the pedals but you could reduce the size of the hardware into those two for movement and it gets to be much more accessible. Because you could share the use of pedals between mech and racing sim games.@@WELLbethere
@@damsen978 Agreed. I like the chunky-industrial-millitaristic look Battletech has over what Japanese mechs do
OF COURSE James has a Steel Battalion controller... the man just keeps getting more legendary. Also, because it bears repeating:
"Isn't there supposed to be a snake at the end of these videos?"
"IS CAT NOW!"
snake is just long cat
Isn't there supposed to be a green mat in these videos?
IS RED NOW
Best reference ever
🐈>🐍
FRAANNNKKK
There is a LAN room set up with an entire 16-or-so player complement of Steel Battalion controllers + CRTs and XBoxes every year at PAX East and it is truly a sight to behold. Truly the best way to experience this game.
Literally the only good thing about PAX that's ever come about, that's for sure. Them madlads keeping those consoles working and playing it the old school OG way is the reason why I prefer retro games over 'modern' games now. You just don't get that sort of "community" of geeks coming together anymore.
They have the exact same thing at PAX West and I've gone to play every year it's there. It's so cool.
That sounds like a complete blast LOL
Mech sim games like steel battalion and mechwarrior are my nerdy weakspot. I've worked in and around heavy machinery for most of my adult life and like the idea of gigantic heavily armed robots ever since seeing the (admittedly not great) movie Robot Jox when i was a kid. I wouldn't leave that LAN room for the entire expo
Ooooo is it free to do? Or is it a separate charge
Oh my god, I had never heard of this but that is the coolest standalone game controller I've ever seen
I have CONSISTENTLY heard from people who owned it that the "startup sequence" was by far the most fun part of the game. Probably why we never got a new one. Paying $100+ for a complicated controller and a mediocre game is a hard sell.
yeah, it looks great... until you realize that a solid 80% of the controls were just for *starting your mech*
and if you got taken out in a match without ejecting from your mech, you had to startover from scratch
@@IRBorkThere were sequels, plural. The one that killed the franchise was Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor on the 360 that used a mix of the controller and the Kinect. That was back in 2012.
@@FizzieWebb things like that are just part of the hardcore immersion the game is going for.
I remember playing at the fry's electronics where I worked during my breaks when it came out lol. Never made it past the first level lol
The new Armored Core should come out with a controller like this
You can buy controllers like this for flight simulators - it's specifically called a HOSAS or "hands on stick and stick" setup. - it's commonly used for space flight simulators.
There's also HOTAS, which means "hands on throttle and stick" - they're commonly used for aircraft flight simulators.
Though either configuration can be used for both space and aircraft Sims.
I have a single stick at home - it's modular but I couldn't afford the additional modules - it's a VKB Gladiator NXT Evo stick.
judging by a brief look at the gameplay, no it should not. shoe horning this complex controller into a faster paced game doesnt make for a bright idea
@@pikkyuukyuun4741 I mean it would be cool if it was just an optional thing if anything.
@@pikkyuukyuun4741 Armored Core is often batshit. Why not?
@@pkfiremain710 >The man who probably hasn't played an AC game.
I have desperately wanted that controller for so many years. I'm so jealous.
Same
yeah me too, I wanted it so bad.
I had the first edition version of this controller with the green buttons back in the day, but I always thought the blue buttons looked so much better. Such a rad concept, but I never had the patience to play through it all due to the learning curve and how slow the game itself can be
Red green will be a problem for colorblind people but red blue won't I think
@@simonwu7250the later versions had blue buttons so that they wouldn't be confused with the original controllers, not for colorblind reasons
same
Thank you, I thought something looked odd about this one.
TIL that I have the first edition. Right on!
Some helpful things that the manual would have told you.
The left pedal isn't just sidestep, you jump in the direction that you're currently traveling, so you can use it to jump foreword and backward too.
5:20 your weapons have no effect unless the tringles around the reticle have merged, with the left representing the sub weapon and the right being the primary. Certain weapons have a minimum distance that you need to be away from a target, like the ASMIS, just pay attention to the triangles
8:52 The blinking red lights just above the gauges tell you if you're about to bump into something on the left, right, and/or center.
The indicator with the 10 vertical lines is how many chaff uses you have. Just below the chaff indicator are the two drop fuel tank gauges, and the main tank gauge is to the right of them. On top of the main fuel gauge is 4 lights that represent how many more hits you can take.
The big red lamp between the multi-monitor and the sub weapon ammo gauge is your fire alarm indicator, that makes it clear that you've been set on fire, and that instead of ejecting you can put out the fire with the extinguisher button and keep going (that is if the fire doesn't finish off the vt)
9:20 So that's telling you that you have an incoming message, turn the knob to line up the indicator with the blinking light, and you send/receive messages with the red buttons at the top. *_Certain missions will require you to receive and acknowledge orders from command before you can complete the objective_* .
FSS isn't available in 1st gen VTs, need to have a 2nd gen for that. And the proper way to play is to always be moving, lock on to enemies, and drive-by shoot them.
Also you can look forward to future missions where you will have to use the manipulator, which is this little robot arm with a claw on it lol
And the speedo is in kilometers👍
long post here's a potato🥔
Jesus that's a full meta guide for an old ass Xbox game
@@conner6691 lol yea, the game is far more enjoyable once you know that. Also 2nd Gen and 3rd Gen VTs have different gauge and light layouts lol
Awesome 🥔🎉
And this game is supposed to be fun???
@@kowhaifan1249 Yes, it's a very rewarding experience after you've learned to drive and figured it out.
The xbox og controller is way too big they said.
looked up the manual online out of curiosity. It is 180 pages of plain instruction of game mechanics. it's a wonder people paid $200 for these. would be really cool to see something like this pop up again for a franchise like mechwarrior or something though.
They have Mechwarrior pods, but nothing for home use...unless you're rich
I'd honestly be totally up for something like this but with Gundam. It's a shame companies are probably reluctant to do peripheral-dependent games these days.
@@discipleofsound4565Also, the pods are dwindling. They were built in the early '90s, and there are only a very small number still working, maintained as passion projects by a small number of people.
that's the PAL copy which is just the same thing repeated a bunch of times in a bunch of different languages, in actuality it's only 35 or so pages
@@PsycheTrance65Even then. Wonder how much this game sold.
God i miss when they made stuff like this. Everyone talks about VR but to me, this is real immersion. Closing the cockpit, flipping all the switches, the joysticks, the pedals. It really makes you feel like the driver inside the cockpit itself.
Now this looks suitable for a submarine.
I thought I was the only one to think about it
I saw the thumbnail, took me a second to turn the mass of shapes and objects into an item, and then immediately realized it was Steel Battalion. Absolute legend.
Legend out here got the Steel Battalion setup as well. Seeing the controller up close shows how "arcade cabinet" this is haha. I imagine the manual for this is just like an arcade machine manual, classic Capcom.
This makes me wonder how James would go about setting up a simpit for other mech games or flight/spacesims; mind their control schemes can be even less transparent, more convoluted, and the games themselves requiring in software preflight checks to even start the game (in reference to Star Citizen mostly, though I've heard DCS is a Pandora's box). Paired with your experience with retro gear and commercial arcade machinery, seeing you tear down super expensive modern joysticks and making custom control panels would be super cool; you seem much more interested in the retro and historical experiences of games though and I really respect that
The Warthog Project has an unbelievable simpit
Star Citizen doesn't have any sort of pre-flight stuff... It's just two areas in the ship, electrics then engines. DCS is... involved... but at the very least it *lets* you bind about as many controls as you have available. Sadly the age of sim-pitting seems to have mostly passed. Xbox themselves killed Steel Battalion with their pretty awful Kenect game.
i wanna see james build a fully accurate boeing 747 flight sim cockpit-accurate controllers now
A video that starts off with, "let's talk about and play with this controller," then takes a detour through talking about Xbox hardware problems, optical drive head/laser assemblies, etc. is a gem of a channel.
I really did love the graphics and overall look/feel of the original Xbox, I have a stack of them in my closet all in varying states of fubar for parts and two working ones: crystal as shown here (not in mint condition I had to save after said caps went boom), and one of the crystal/translucent green ones that has been modded with a hard drive. I'm planning on wedging an APU based desktop into one if the AMD APUs that are rumored to release next year are up to spec as the rumors say.
The sub wouldn't have sunk if it used this controller
Man, I’ve ALWAYS wanted to play with a Steel Battalion controller, it looks amazing! I’m so sad there’s never been a modern game, it seems like it’d be almost perfect for VR
After how godawful the Kinect version was the series is pretty much toast.. would be better to start with a new IP haha
@@NexusARC?
@@NexusARC
Vox Machinae is a VR mech game with a full mech cockpit in VR and it works surprisingly well.
I still dream about a Steel Battalion Wii U game that comes with a jig for two GamePads and three 3DSs, so your "cockpit" is full of touchscreens and HUD elements in your lap.
Lol that would be a funny homebrew project
Brand new DVD drive
Can you believe nobody bought this?
I always wanted to try this game, and it's way more complicated than I expected. I can't help but imagine playing Titanfall with a controller like that. It would be amazing. We need more chungus game specific controllers.
James is just the gaming version of wade ngl lol
This is so cool, love the HUD and animations; so much polish but also so much jank, such a cool idea!
Imagine if this was in an arcad emachine that was completely closed off like a simulation machine.
That would be sick
a huge fan actually built something like that with working lights and stuff.
Wow that looks rad. I miss my old Xbox. I had a crystal one also, paid $40 for it and bought 2 controllers, I put a massive hard drive into it and a mod chip and it was probably my all time favourite console I’ve ever owned, it was so cool.
I couldn’t figure out why this video felt so much like Dankpods and then I realized it’s ol’ mate James
I played Steel Battalion back in the day, and this game was insane.
Imagine if they remade this game, and made the bottom part of your HUD part of the controller itself, which would give you more screen area. But I doubt we'll ever see anything more from Steel Battalion.
They did release it on the Kinect and it was a mess.
@@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 Yeah it was so bad it probably killed the franchise for good
This game is a blast. I got it off a online seller in between the period when the original and rerelease weren't worth alot of money. I specifically got my Xbox modded solely to keep that game playable but since Xbox titles are generally the best quality of that generation for multiplatform titles and cheapest I got to replay a ton of great games thanks to Steel Battalion.
we still play online if you wanna join us
ah man I'm so jealous. I love mech games, and I also aspire to have even a fraction of your confidence with electronics.
That controller is really cool, but I'm somehow even more jealous of your table Galaxian!
One reason why that controller can be so complicated, is that the controller ports are just USB ports with a different shape. Its just a standard USB device.
This was the only game I talked about with my friends that we all wanted at the time cos of this crazy controller, it was right up my street thank you for actually showing me the gameplay and how it all worked 21 years later!
"hey guys here's this cool xbox controller i wanted to show off real quick" as he's performing a heart transplant on two consoles
I wonder if that drive is busted because of failing capacitors? There are 12 capacitors on the boards of the Thompson DVD readers.
Back when games actually came with some kinda booklets and manuals this was immediately my bathroom lecture upon coming back home with a new game.
After hearing about the James channel from Dank Pods, I'm glad to have been able to discover it on my own randomly in my youtube feed xD
I remember being blown away by this controller, seeing it an xbox magazine many moons ago. Thank you for demonstrating it!
Now thats a gaming setup
The Steel Battalion controller was a vibe. I remember seeing it back in the day and wondering how on earth you could actually play it.
Also I can totally hear you in the background Wade. Providing some dank drumming.
My mate JUDD had this game and the controller - he loved it - he’s passed away now by this brought back some happy memories thank you
As someone who has one of these and plays steel battalion, I gotta say it feels really natural to use!
i actually have a complete in box first release of this controller (The Green Button one), if i remember right the blue button one was the not only a relaunch but also came with the sequel that was multiplayer only. Also when they say manual, it aint no flimsy booklet in a normal game, this thing is a codex for WH40K tabletop levels of complex. Steel Battalion can be considered one of the most immersive sim games for a console, and came out in 2002.
Unfortunately this was expensive, as in $200 in 2002, it did well, earning Line of Contact as the aforementioned multiplayer only sequel. Weirdly enough I heard that scalpers actually dropped the ball on these, with many people clearing out stocks from stores, then trying to flip an already expensive game for more money. This led to years down the line said scalpers dumping there massive stocks of these things for next to nothing, leading to a resurgence in interest in the game.
Double unfortunately for those interested these days, those times of them being cheap are long gone, these things are next to impossible to find in the wild, and online can fetch as much as they cost or more when it launched, with most the time complete fetching more than double. I would consider Steel Battalion to be up there as the king of the OG Xbox Collection for its niche appeal alone.
I immediately had to try out the emergency release on my USB disk drive and it worked. Thank you for explaining games and tech from times where I was only a small kid
It's noble that you refused to pirate a game from 2 decades ago, definitely getting into heaven now
If I was old enough to play games when this released, I would have been blown away. Because I'm blown away by this now! It's an arcade controller in your house. Man I want one.
Steel Battalion! I love this game. Also glad to see more vids on your channel!
Unsolicited pointers since that's all I have to show for spending so much time on this game.
There's two triangles on the side of the enemy box (the one you click to lock on to them). The triangles on the left are for your sub weapon. The ones on the right are for main. If the triangles aren't overlapping, you're too far away (or too close) to hit with that weapon. A lot of the game is managing distance on the enemy and holding fire until the triangles are touching.
The 5 switches had slightly more use in the sequel, Line of Contact. You could sort of power down and go stealth by turning them off, although you could only do it for so long. Shame that they shut that all down, I think LoC is almost entirely pointless now.
The game was beeping at you because your ally was calling you back. It wanted you to press the first comms button to get their call.
It's a very complicated game and controller but the game is somewhat satisfying I think. It was not just a gimmick controller. Thanks for showing it off here :)
I love how when his hud started beeping at him, instead of looking at his massive controller of buttons, James just ignores it.
I love this controller. Custom controllers open up so many avenues for creative game design, and it's a shame that this kind of stuff wouldn't be made today.
hopefully with less hud 😅
It's also probably the most effective anti-piracy thing.
The problem is that harmonix saw this as well and started the whole guitar hero spam that eventually caused everyone to get completely disinterested in custom controllers. There were some small tries with the wii (since the wiimote had a built in expansion port) but yeah, if you want a custom controller you have to go PC.
I remember reading about this game in EGM and I've always wanted to get a copy. It's a treat to see you sit down and experience it the same way I would've.
officially one of the best games of all time, the literal example of "they dont make them like they used to anymore"
this gives me flashbacks of playing mech warrior on my pc like 20 years ago with a full on hobbled together dual joystick setup with foot triggers that i spent over 20 hours making it work. that was SOOOO fun. i wish i still had that spark to play things like this. now a days i just play osrs and css/2 . i guess im stuck in my ways these days XD
^w^
awesome video! thank you for sharing :3
That thing is so sophisticated, you could probably even control a submarine with it.
The manual is actually pretty good, well worth the read!
I still have this game and controller (and the original box and manual), but sadly no Xbox - or TV for that matter. I've been kind of debating selling it for years now, but so far I've kept it around just in case I ever get enough space to set up a TV and Xbox.
Rigging up something to keep the controller and pedals from sliding around is definitely a hot tip.
I'd never seen one of these controllers before. It's more complicated than the Gundam pods in arcades. It would have been cool if there was something like this for the old school Armored Core games.
Oh man i got so excited when i saw that thumbnail. saw one of these at a garage sale once ages ago and wish i woulda picked it up. i love crazy controller set ups like these! always wondered how it worked and what the game was like. Very cool! thanks for that and it was neat to see you fix original xboxes! didnt know about the issues they had. very interesting stuff!
"My cameras dirty so i need to wash it" caught me so off guard 😂
I’m just trying to go to sleep, but then James posts, and I just can’t resist…
True
Same
I don’t know why I didn’t expect James to have a steel battalion controller but I’m glad he is sharing it with the world. One of my favorite controllers of all time
These videos are amazing to unwind to, thank you James
Reminds me of when I mapped a Guitar Hero controller as an Xbox 360 controller and tried to play Halo MCC with it.
Went about as well as expected.
I love videos like this, the vibes are immaculate
I'd heard the legends of the Steel Battalion controller but never seen it in action. I always wished there was something like it available for games like Tie Fighter.
Honestly James is an entire vibe and I love it.
Now THATS a submarine controller!
holySHIT you have the steel batalion controller
Man, there can't be a game controller, that's cooler than this.
look up modern flight sim setups, they're basically this, but on steroids, it's amazing.
i saw a glimpse of one of these controllers years ago at a games museum and i would have never thought i'd see it again and learn what it was for. the whole game and controller is super cool, with its mechanic involving your game deleted. i would LOVE to see a modern game like this with its own controller, but knowing modern companies, thats just a dream. thanks for the great vid james
I bought this game at the same time as my first ever xbox when it came out! The game came in a cool looking carboard 'crate'. It cost £200 at the time. In later levels you get to drive more advanced mechs with much better visibility, sort of digital displays all around with projected HUD info. It's the best mech game ever made. One of the hardest to master games purely because of the controller. The little thumb joystick is to move the mechs head, the left right moves the body, the big stick the guns and the pedals... man, this thing was harder to learn than playing drums or passing my driving test. Awesome video dude.
I wonder if a game like this could work in VR with the same giant controller
I've been wondering for a while why VR isn't leaning more into driving and flight sims. It's perfect for them, and removes the issue of needing to stand up and potentially smash your head into a wall while trying to move.
Welp I’m here a little early. Probably not good since I’m in America lol
Same here
Currently 10:35PM
Great vid. Always fascinated me when I was younger. Got a go of one at video games live when it came here. Was awesome fun.
I love getting 4-5 Dankpods/Dankpods associated videos a week. Seeing James Channel blossoming is also great, these videos are always enjoyable and whenever I see one in my sub feed I can't wait to watch it. (Of course it's usually late at night when I see them because of the time difference, so it's a morning watch for me)
That is actually incredible! Never knew that controller was a thing. Wow, back when games released FINISHED.
I wanted this SO BAD when I was a college aged kid and saw the controller at a con when it was new.
I was too poor, tho
Hell. I’m still too poor 😢
thank you for uploading this!! this is one of the COOLEST video game experiences I've ever seen!! Please more stuff like thissss!!
Man you give me oldschool tech video vibes, but with the snappy editing, and i absoluly love it
you're such a cool dude
Its not piracy if you own the game lol
Dubious territory
Piracy in a nutshell: "I make a duplicate copy of your work, you keep the original. I mod and mess around with the dupe, and you have everything untouched on the original." It's actually not stealing just fancy copy pasting.
And when I thought the OG Xbox controller couldn't get any chonkier, they made a freakin Mech Game controller for it, I love it. Lol
I always get a chuckle out of Wade playing the background drums in your vids.
in a weird exploration kinda way i think having this without any tutorial is quite neat, like lazy and confusing from developers for sure, but not only it seemed to fit right up with the plot, but also the process of actually achieving the W must feel great in the most "i deserved that" way possible
I remember my cousin having one of those, but we didn't have an Xbox for it, let alone a specific game to play with it. Glad I came across your channel, I would love to see more of ye olde stuff that you have
idk why but ive watched this video 3 times this week, love your content
I have now discovered something probably rare and expensive that I really want, thanks James! Also, nice sweater sleeves, I imagine the rest of it looks just as snazzy.
This is one of the coolest things for a game I have seen in my life but then again I'm only 20 odd years in. Keep it going games your channel goes over a neish thing I'm into.
There is nothing I despise more than manufacturers hiding screws beneath stickers.
I will always remember the Dutch Power Unlimited review about this game which was written like "A Japanese dude came up with an idea of creating a joystick just like the anime's and his boss was like, "hell no!"" and the other guy was like "hell yeah" and came up with a real like MECH controller like "what are you going to do now mr boss man!!" and then it became a thing.
Great to see it's still talked about year later
I love a good startup sequence! This is pleasing to me
I love how the desk is a old cocktail arcade machine and i also love how its on every time
This looks like so much fun, I'd love to have to use all of these controls it's amazing
I still have this controller. This is still one of my favorite games. When the game was originally released, there were other games planned but were scrapped after release.
As for the eject, if you don't eject in time, your game progress will be deleted. However, any Mechs you have unlocked remain unlocked. If you find a copy of this, I recommend it.
I like how the mech boots up with the Mac chime at 4:10
I remember seeing this at game crazy and wanting it so bad as a kid. It looked so cool!
I was literally just talking about this game yesterday! It's been a dream to own this one day and have a dedicated setup just for it not because the game is amazing but because that controller is such a beautiful piece
This controller should've been used on that submarine
holy nugget this is freaking awesome. i'm just imaging a pc master race dude with this kind of set-up controller... i would love to have that. that clear xbox is just wonderful
This is awesome dude! Love seeing you do your own stuff. Super interesting 🥳