Logan Paul's "Refund"
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“Refunding” under the guise of trying to get out of liabilities is one of the most Logan Paul things ever. Also, KSI labeling the victims as “haters” is downright despicable.
They are both narcissistic people, just look at KSI reacting to his lose against Fury.
Certified hood classic
Well American people bribe people
I really had hope that KSI would bring Logan up the chain morally, instead KSI is being dragged down and then copes by calling those people who hold him accountable as "haters"
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He's not refunding his victims, he's buying their silence. This scumbag needs jailtime.
@@user-zj6zc8ef1qWONG!!!! I am 15 years old and I am a LoganManiac and Logan needs to be praised! Great human bean!!!
the sad thing is the ppl he scammed might be that dumb, that they accept this... I mean they trusted the biggest doodoohead on the internet with their money in the first place
@@GabrielAlcala956 because your 15 and 15 year olds are the smartest.
@@GabrielAlcala956this has got to be satire
@@LewisMatthews-dl9sg Bait, right?
The funny part is that Logan would rather pay lawyers $18m to scrub his name from the project instead of paying back the people he scammed.
When you're famous, tons of people give you the benefit of the doubt. As long as they're still fooled he's trying to do right, he still has people to market too.
Hold on how much do lawyers cost?
@@letusdebatenowgood ones are expensive. Good ones without morals? Even more
@@denjidenji9162he needs saul 😂
@@denjidenji9162wait there’s lawyers who have morals?
The funniest part of his tweets is that he's turned off comments, but people are adding community notes to them and Logan is actually arguing back and forth with those notes.
Wow, that's the saddest thing I've heard in a while. Man's a famous millionaire boxer and businessman, but he still manages to be a loser on the internet. XD
The community notes idea is awesome
Logan Paul is living proof that if we live in a world that rewards dishonest behavior, we shouldn’t expect honest conduct.
That is the world we live in. It's why he's gonna get away with it.
True. But trump is the OG
@@aqdalati No, the OG is Ea-nasir!
@@aqdalatimy guy still crying about homie. Brain is totally washed and propagandized
Wait... you were actually being honest your whole life? Haha enjoy being at the bottom 🤣
The fact that Coffeezilla is still shining a huge spotlight on all of Logan's terrible behavior and not letting him just get of the hook scott free again, just brings me a nice warm fuzzy feeling.
I bet Logan stays up at night Cursing Coffee’s name
Coffee needs to be careful, Logan is showing signs he's the type of dude to put a hit on someone exposing his continued fraudulent behavior.
If anything EVER happens to Coffeezilla, Logan Paul was definitely involved.
I whole heartedly agree. And it isn’t easy knowing Paul’s influence and connections. Coffee keeps it 100
Agreed
Should not be a surprise, Logan is a fake content creator, a fake entertainer, a fake boxer and, clearly a fake business guy. What did you expect?
If you replace it with "shitty" then it would be more accurate
Off topic but the “entertainment” is not fake and I would LOVE to see you work a 20 minute match.
@bruddajace461 it's all fake bro. You can enjoy it, nothing wrong with liking wrestling, but it's been fake since forever.
@@TurtTheGreat
Everyday bro!!!!!
A step closer being a billionaire?
THE PAUL BROTHERS.....
What "Failing as Parents" LOOKS LIKE.
I totally agree.
In an alternative universe they ended up as regular kids cuz their parents bought them flip phones instead of iPhone
This isn't a refund; it's a settlement offer. He's trying to reduce his downside liability in a class action. I can see why it took so long now - his lawyers were trying to find a way to give as little as possible and his PR people were trying to come up with a way to make it look virtuous. I can't believe the lengths this guy will go through to not pay what he owes when he is literally swimming in money and paying this back wouldn't make a dent in his wealth.
You'd think that rich people wouldn't be greedy but that's precisely why they're so rich
@@Korra228Especially when around the time this happened he was on radio shows saying prime made 100 million in a month
Most likely his lawyers suggested this early on but Logan in his infinite wisdom likely rejected all such ideas. Now he thinks this idea is truly his again :D
@@DGD355problem is, he’s not as rich as everyone thinks. Prime will be revenues, not profit and it’s a partnership with a drinks company, it’s not a legit start up. He’s far from poor though
Money is an idol in this world
The fact you never let this go and instead of it getting buried and Logan being able to move away from it without consequences you kept ahold and now Logan actually has to face his consequences makes me happy
It also makes coffeezilla a ton of money making these videos. as he should.
@@Jako101 Which is how it should be.
@@Shirumoon Based.
Cause he's a hater
Jk.
@@Jako101 how many hours do you think he puts into these?
if he makes 1 million from this video he deserves every cent.
Isnt this like a felony larceny? How could any law enforcement officer not put this person in prison.
Being a Logan's fan must be the worst thing that can happen to a person.
- 12% Refund / 0% Responsibility taken
- No finished game
- Must drop your case that seeks a full refund / Yet sues co defendants
Logan: *SO PROUD TO ANNOUNCE I AM DELIVERING ON MY PROMISE*
He's a fraud like the rest of Hollywood.
You should sell this on a t-shirt fr.
CHECKMATE, HATERS
It's worse, He never actually paid the 12% refund. What he's doing is presenting an unfavorable deal-a 12% refund-with a super short time frame to claim it (just one month). As this deal is unlikely to proceed, he can use this scenario in court to appear as though he attempted to issue a refund and is doing everything he can to make things right, while actually paying $0 to anyone.
The man is Millionaire, yet can't pay people back, I can't imagine what Prime has made $$$
The fact that people like Logan Paul are still famous, successful and can maintain a large fandom is just crazy to me. It says a lot about the general state of society.
susiety 😔
You're right.@@zokalyx
NPC aah comment
On top of still not rotting in jail...
Crazy how people still support him
It's wild he could refund everyone with the change in his couch cushions but just refuses to
Anyone remember Curt Schilling? That guy was an actual professional athlete and nearly ruined Rhode Island.
Knowing that Logan and his attorney were watching your videos over and over while drafting their pleadings is such a W
and he still managed to contradict himself in those tweets
They most definitely did and the only reason he would offer a refund is because his attorneys stressed to him that he *will* lose all of the cases.
Is he refunding 100% of the money taken or part of it? Man this internet thing is getting worst then those "Late night" infomercial of the 1980's Now I see ads on Facebook that are 1000% bull shit and Facebook doesn't have a financial disclaimer on these marketing ads ~ At least you saw a financial disclaimer in small fine print on those 30 minute "LATE NIGHT" "infomercial
@@KingNewJersey man it feels like I'm having a stroke trying to read anything after your first sentence/question
@@ievaday LOL ~ at least I'm not taking anyone's money!
there needs to be a class action lawsuit, period.
People don't want to spend years on a lawsuit when they already spent this entire time without their money. They'll get their refund and get it over with so they can move on with their lives. I think only a small amount of the victims will go trough with the lawsuit.
I'm pretty sure Logan is getting sued by Attorney Tom or whoever
BTW a class action is also worth it because it would be humiliating.
@@grunkleg.3110 yep, just watched a video from attorney Tom warning people about the clause to accepting the refund he put out yesterday
@@dallassegnolol K name one… without looking it up… you can't.
I would be furious if I got offered just 10% back. They deserve a full refund.
This channel has became one of the pillars of virtue in the internet
*im 100 percent convinced now that logan paul is physically incapable of being in the right or doing anything in life morally virtuous*
Really? Only now? Suicide forest?
Give him a break, man. He's probably allergic to being and doing good. 😢 It's a terrible moral pandemic that's swept over the world. Have a heart.
addicted to money
Some people just don't have morals or empathy, and they'll never change
He's trying to lower the amount of people who will win in the suit against him, by making them think 12% now is better than 100% possibly-never.
Worst part is he has enough money to make these people whole, but he knows it won't save his reputation - he's already cashed out his reputation.
So why "send good money after bad?"
ksi calling victims to logan paul's scam "haters" is actually insane
Monkey see monkey do 😅
❤
That's because KSI's hands aren't clean, he's done scummy things in the past as well.
@@rogerhurtubise2150 like what? Not questioning you, genuinely curious.
I always thought he's kept his name out of these controversies and has claimed he lost a lot of money in the crypto boom. What scams did he run?
It's really simple guys. Do the following en mass.
1. Boycott Prime.
2. Boycott the podcast.
3. Boycott their "boxing" shenanigans.
4. Unfollow their socials.
Make these people humble. Make them become one of us once again - the "normal everyday man" so that they will face the same struggles as us.
The change starts now. Stop feeding the hand that doesn't care about you or your troubles.
Wow he is such a gaslighter. "Gamblers" Love this channel. First time here & appreciate this type of information. New sub
I’m glad there’s someone out to there to constantly have a platform to call this snake out
Blows my mind that a damn near billionaire can’t just make it right. He wouldn’t even notice the money missing. Really shows you how evil these people are.
yeah but like, what if the poor billionaire needs thtat, what is essentially to them, pocket change?? think of the impact that would have on the billionaire 🥺
Yeah, Hundreds of millions could be done on just a couple of their fights. Whats that about?
Greed?
Is Logan really that wealthy? Everywhere I go, I see that urinal 'Prime' drink in stacks being sold on store shelves. I have yet to see anyone drinking that dog piss drink...
i mean, prime did an annual sale of 1,2 billion in 2023, he has a 20% share of the company so i can imagine he gets a decent chunk of money of it. billionaire not close. but he will be if this trend continues within this decade@@KermitOfWar
I genuinely think hes doing it cos he doesnt wanna look like he failed and he was in the wrong paying a fraction of the amount means he can go away looking slightly innocent
So manipulation, fraud, and then plagiarism? He really went the extra mile to make the lawyer's job as effortless as possible.
Isn't "gambling" being mentioned by Logan also like one of the big things that makes lawyers wet and roll in their sleep?
IIRC gambling in US is only legal in certain places with loisenses and whatnot?
What a great person tho, i sure hope he gets everything he deserves.
attorney toms group probly cant wait to buy coffeezilla a beer if they ever meet
@@LibbyGrimm yes he kind of admits to promoting a gambling operation in a way that is against ftc rules and the gambling operation itself against state laws
Almost as if he doesn't pay his lawyers enough to do the work themselves.
@@LibbyGrimm Loisenses???
Everyone deserves to hear this, give this man a like. Because we all know coffee is doing a service we need!
I didn't need to see this to know he was a sociopath. Just look at how he treats his brother
Come on Logan just give your supporters their money back.
It's Logan, he'd rather die in some 'the matrix attacked me' like accident or promote prime before going to court
Fuck yeah Grind hard. Tell em. You guys make the most fun videos.
love your vids, hows the cart doing?
But it wouldn’t be a scam if he gave the money back…
These aren't victims. They're adults that willingly gave Logan money. No amount of financial recompense is going to fix the root problem.
It’s mind boggling to me that people buy into anything that these influencers put out.
We are still dumb af as a species 😂
People who need to learn how the real world works
To be fair if someone as ur fav CZcamsr/Streamer promote smt u want to be supportive
@@saitokazuta3887Buy a t shirt or a hat or something real. NFTs are not actually a tangible object, they're literally vaporware.
@@soliniv1411sad but true!
You can almost separate the smart from the dumb by who got jabbed and who didn't!
Has logan actually paid anyone yet? I can't find anything to say he did
Crazy no one at least gets jail time
We say refund but Logan hears defund
The sad part is he is making the most money he’s ever made with prime and WWE. This scam had 0 effect on his career when there should be laws in place to hold him accountable
strange place we live in, how can the universe allow so much unnecessary amount of wealth to bad people out there.
@danielposh because this society is galvanized by wickedness in high places. The Paul Brothers are both part of the program and have connections to elite circles, they are pawns and hold zero authority over their own lives. Perhaps they will parade about in ecstasy and depravity during their limited time on this earth but once they depart nothing good awaits them on the otherside.
@@danielposhRemember, to accumulate that level of wealth, you have to be willing to take it from others. No contribution to the world is worth 100s of millions in value generated, so they are stealing value from people who do generate it. You have to be some level of a sociopath to be ok with that. It's not that they are bad and get money, they get money because they are ok with being bad.
@@danielposhCapitalism
wich is fuckin funny cause wwe has cut ties with some just because they look at mr mcmahon while he as walking down the aisle, clown world.
His refund attempt could be construed as an admission of guilt. I hope he gets sued into oblivion.
punitive damages in addition to compensatory damages
By a court? Absolutely not.
Why doesn’t the FBI knock on his door right now? This is a fraud scheme by law
This is the code Logan Paul lives by:
419
Logal is lucky 99% of his fans are children who aimlessly buy into all the garbage he throws at them
It's amazing that even the refund is a scam
Underrated comment.
Scammers gonna scam.
I’m actually surprised they’d scrap the game. Without even a basic cheap sandbox game, surely it will be easier to prove in court that the tokens acted more as an investment asset over whatever Logan and crew say what it was “intended” to be
And yet they are still fans defending him.
Logan should go to jail
The thought of him spending time and money fighting this in court warms my heart.
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Bros got more money than all of us have seen court isn’t gonna do crap unfortunately
And shows you denial is a real thing.
The thought of Logan’s lawyers watching coffezilla’s videos to draft their complaint warms my heart
Must take a certain... em... psychological mindset to trust your money to a guy from CZcams, that offers a thing called CryptoZoo. Knowing that amount of such people is so big, that Logan owes them almost $14mln, just horrifies me.
i remember watching a coffee break video in school a few years ago. i thought your name was similar and then i realised it is you. love the new channel and been watching since coffee break days
You are a hero, Coffee. Please never stop holding scammers responsible
With this he's basically saying "Yes I stole almost 20 million dollars, but I might give 2 million back," and somehow isnt in jail.
If he continues down this route he will eventually; or you would think.
@@00AgentKrabiehe won’t, if you still think people are held accountable. Sorry mate, they don’t give a fuck.
Just think about the petty crimes the majority of Siberian gulag inmates committed… then there’s Logan Paul running amok scott free. Makes me feel abit sick tbh.
You really do wonder? Did you see all the things trump did, without really any consequences? Accountability is out of the window a long time ago…
@@dxvidcx9923There is a class action lawsuit, the legal system moves slowly.
The most GRIMEY part of this situation is that he can ABSOLUTELY afford to FULLY refund ALL of the people who chose to support & trust him with their life savings in some cases & he still REFUSES TO DO SO.
Right? In what world wouldn't you want to take every chance to redeem yourself + make all that legal stuff go away if it's completely affordable to you? I'm thinking that his lawyers maybe advised him on not refunding everything to keep him from inadvertently doing some kind of admission of guilt, opening him up to more damages.
@@MyDearFrodo I don't think he is that rich and he lies about the primes success.
@@hades4438 My brother in christ I don't think you can just lie about selling a billion units of something
that just speaks volumes about his character as a person (if the Japanese Forrest incident didn't already)
It would be fun to find out that he is actually not that rich and he is in masive depth. That would explain a lot. He still could be just a selfish jerk but a secret depth or some other kind of trouble would make more sence to me.
What gets me is how much support this sort of person gets. So you can be a predatory ego-toxic embarrassment and still get millions of people following and supporting 😂 what a place, man. Enlightening as always.
Sunk cost fallacy??
this needs so much more publicity than it's getting
Stay on his neck, the public will forget if you don't keep making these. Your work will soon be recognized
Exactly
100%. A bi-weekly reminder would be great.
Recognized as in what? Coffezilla is already highly regarded by many, so I'd say he already is.
@thearpox7873 a major news source will soon pick this up.
The 30 day window is absolutely to make people panic and take the money without considering the losses
Scammers love to instill a sense of urgency
Smart tactics to be fair
@@LochyBankes Classic tactics. Every big company which has been in trouble has done exactly that. Offer a bit of money to "settle the problem" because they know regular people prefer to safely get a bit of money rather than risking it to get a lot more, and make your "offer" appear as a chance you have to seize by giving a sense of urgency.
FOMO
@@EugeneOneguine If i would be that stupid that i would give this guy some money, i wouldn't drop the case in any situation, unless he gives a full refund, the money that cost to hire my lawyers and a fine that causes so much pain and financial troubles that he caused.
Keep up the great work Coffeezilla!
The selective 'Just-is system' really ticks me off.
This is what we lawyers call a SETTLEMENT OFFER. Which is not a "refund."
Yep. And to be fair, this should’ve been expected…..from ANYONE in this case. Not a Paul Logan fan at all. Just saying, the nda is standard operation in this type of case.
"hey look I tried to give the money back"
*unimpressed jury*
And this is what we counselors call the BARGAINING STAGE OF GRIEF on Logan's end xD
You lawyers need to come up with ideas that actually help people, not ones that destroy lives and only protect the wealthy.
@@whoisthispianist01 you understand lawyers aren't the ones who write the laws, correct?
It’s actually crazy how Logan makes these “Promises.” To his victims but doesn’t even follow through on any of them. Not just one time….
These aren't victims. They're adults that willingly gave Logan money. No amount of financial recompense is going to fix the root problem.
@@ShirleyTimple like why would grown adults just throw away money and then act surprised
@@ShirleyTimple To avoid CZcams deleting my comment, we all agree that the victims are not intelligent, to put it lightly. The overwhelming majority of crypto bros aren’t. But that doesn’t change the fact that what happened to those people would classify them as victims by the literal Oxford languages definition of the word victim
If people keep giving Logan Paul money, he will scam again.
@@ShirleyTimple You just justified pretty much all scams.
So not only is Logan a scam artist, he is a "prime" Hbomberguy target.
Shocking that a man who admitted to having clinically diagnosed “sociopathic tendencies” can’t stop scamming people.
I don't think that's true. Sociopathy is pop psychology. It may have been a real diagnosis you could have gotten at one point but to the best of my understanding it's not now. I assume that comes from the weird Shane Dawson "documentary" but I wouldn't believe anything either Logan Paul or Shane Dawson have ever said.
Right!
@@glitterberserker1029Logan is absolutely a sociopath and just because the term gets thrown around a lot doesn’t make it a non existing disorder.
@@operandexpanseyea look at Congress
@@glitterberserker1029all psychology is pop, even Jordan Peterson recognizes how much B.S. is in the field because it is a bull discipline. Sociopaths are real. They are not a myth. I hope you continue to never encounter these predators. Strong minded people seem to naturally avoid them. They are elusive to me.
It's almost like we need to make the social cost of scamming your audience worse, because right now it seems like you can do so openly with little to no consequence. I hope he gets sued and the judge decides to send a message.
They won’t “teach him a lesson” they’ll likely settle the case. The punishment is up to the jury to decide on damages and likely legal costs are going to become the defendants burden, and that’s if the case doesn’t settle. It’s likely Tom the Lawyer took the case up pro bono and will get a percentage of the pie when they win. That’s how my class action lawsuit played out.
Kinda like a mob should get some woven wool and find a tall oak.
@@nonethelessfirst8519
Love me a good old L wording 🪝
Should get a tech ban like hackers do when they hack big corporations.
reminder this is the japan forest alien hat guy
The depth of reporting & how excellent this series of vids is/was amazing. I wouldn't believe LP if he said water was wet.
you are literally the only channel that i will allow to show the Pauls on my feed. Everybody remove all content that has the Paul brothers in the picture.
Coffeezilla is not the hero we deserve, he's the hero we need.
Not all capes wear heroes.....
If by someone to read you Google News you mean "need"
@christoner2666 that's not his content hahaha
@@acszoke it literally is. Oh wait, you thought it was an actual investigation? How cute
@@christoner2666you thought you ate 💀
Why do all these so-called billionaires always fail to cover their debts when what they owe amounts to pennies on the dollar compared to their overall wealth? Failing to deliver the game should be considered fraud should see him facing criminal charges.
Good point but logan is nowhere near a billionaire
@@jean-baptistesay6941he ain't a billionaire yet but his net worth is close to 300 mil not to mention the fact that most it has come from prime. Pretty sure if prime makes the same amount of sales in the coming years he might reach billionaire status but alas his greed will not be quenched even with that.
How do you think they got so much money??
Being a billionaire requires a certain mindset. There comes a point where even ethics and morals are an obstacle, and if you want to become a billionaire, hesitation to even drop them will prevent you from getting there.
Mate, they are billionaires because they steal from others, not because they give their money away..... do you even know how the real world works?
There is only one billionaire that is not a criminal, and his name is Batman!
The world will not weep when the Paul brothers meet their end.
Keep these up, thanks 🙏
Super shocked the guy who scammed his fans is "paying" back his fans with another scam. Says a lot about KSI being willing to back this guy consistently too.
Ksi is his business partner and as long as he keeps ranking millions of dollars a year with prime. He wouldn't give a shit about who logan scams.
Pretty sure KSI's whole thing is being stupid and gullible, so yeah it does say a lot, but nothing we don't already know.
It’s so sad that it’s just all about money to them. These people have no morals.
@@MirrtamirrvAre you just now figuring this out? Remember when Logan filmed a suicide victim? He never had morals.
@@Blakobness he aint that stupid lmao he knows what hes doing
The fact that WWE keeps pushing this guy is insane. Any sort of allegations against a wrestler and they're fired.... here Logan is literally scamming people and hey, lets give him a championship.
So more kids follow it
In the modern day, pursuit of money often trumps morals.
Profit over morals is a tale as old as time.
The WWE has never been a bastion of integrity. Just look at all the sexual harassment scandals.
What sucks is the majority of WWE fans don’t care. As long as he gets booked well and can work in the ring, it doesn’t matter to them. Rey Mysterio should’ve never dropped the US championship.
This is the exact same person that filmed himself giggling when he found a s*icide victim in a restricted area in another country, filmed it, edited it and posted it on CZcams, because he could.
How People Still Trust Him.
Do you know the definition of insanity?
Is Paul going back to that japanese forrest to take a double of that “famous” vid ? 😂
It's incredible these people get any benefit of the doubt. 12% refund is almost as bad as no refund.
it should be 100% refund + penalty
it's not even 12%. its 12% of the egg nfts only which is the small part of his scam. all the crypto zoo token buyers get nothing
It's a complete slap in the face!
And give up ur right to sue
Imagine robbing someone.
Then offering 12% back so they dont call the cops on you...
Its scam-seption.. a scam within a scam!
Coffee, you should consider filing an amicus brief in whatever case you think is the most impactful. It can have a big influence on how a court views at a respondent's claims and, therefore, the outcome as a whole. You would have the opportunity to make your point that the characterization of Logan's claims are faulty (the plagiarism isn't really relevant, though) and provide color around the expectations of NFT purchasers and to the response of Logan's "apologies".
Fax
This!!
UPVOTE THIS
Had no idea what that was before your comment, but yeah. I agree he should.
Only issue is this runs the risk of getting wrapped up in the lawsuits himself. Coffee making a video talking about the situation is one thing, sure it makes a difference but it won’t influence the situation *financially*. If he did attempt to get closer to the situation then that puts him in direct fire because there’s so much money on the line, and I’d imagine that Logan’s pockets can support a legal team much longer.
That’s what tends to happen in these cases, one party knows they’re in the wrong and will ultimately lose but as long as they can drag the case out longer than the other party they’ll financially ruin them
Amazing video omg, im from the kavos video he wasnt lying when he said you wrapped it all up perfectly:))
Great work once again !!! 👏 👏 👏 👏
The fact that this guy still has people that support him despite everything he has done to his fans, who he is as a person, the way he treats his brother, is mind blowing to me
Sorry I don't follow Logan's Story, what did he do to his brother? I thought they were likes bros or smth 😐
Kids.
@@Suchanska he wasn't supporting him during his boxing and stuff, and he made fun of him, he said he was ashamed of his brother too
Jake Paul isn’t a good person either. People need to stop supporting them
His brother is worse than he is, personality wise.
Feels more like an NDA settlement than a refund to me...
this is a 100% attempt to mitigate consequences. If the law suit was going his way the refund offer wouldn't exist.
Why people can't persue a jail time based on all the evidance? People like him should be in jail so they can't steal anymore
I take this refund as admission of guilt. Can’t believe he has actually done this. Next will come the SEC.
If this gets turned over to the SEC he's going to be looking at a lot more than the $18M and probably being looking at jail time due to securities fraud. We all can only hope that is where this eventually ends up. Class-action lawsuit from those whom he scammed, immediately followed up by securities-fraud from the SEC. It would be the end of his public persona along with his WWE "career".
+1 Please, let this be the outcome
@@Drummin003I’m dreaming right now
He’s stealing from poor/regular people. The SEC only cares if you’re stealing rich powerful folks.
Why would the SEC care. This is basically another Quadriga where Canadian authorities did fuck all, or like any other number of crypto scams where authorities twiddled their thumbs and looked away.
Unfortunatley, 3 years later, a new generation of 8 year olds is ready to be conned by this guy.
It’s the Sad truth
There are many generations of adult 8 year old's perfectly willing to be conned....
they are already being conned by buying prime
My favorite part about this whole mess is that regardless of the outcome of that lawsuit, justice will be served.
It's the only positive
Not really, nothing is gonna to happen to him, he is too rich and protected.
@@chromaticvisuelle I think you might have misunderstood this comment.
Love to see people get exposed and the true back story. Can't wait to see his response!
The fact that people believed he would refund the victims the full amount is crazy lol
that's fine, so long as he is punished to the full amount of the law.
No it isn't? What Logan's doing is illegal and he just hoped people would forget about it or not understand just how wrong what he did was.
He has the money to refund, it's not surprising that people might expect him to do so.
I don't think anyone thought he would. I think everyone with a brain knew he would try and weasel his way out of any responsibility. He's right on Q
@@BloodChampagneanyone who knew his character would know he's a degenerate, sleezy thief. He thinks he's above the law. Earn money first, dodge responsibility later. This isn't news.
Of all the craziness, if that’s all that stands out, you should see if Logan is hiring. It sounds like he is.
The fact Logan tried to plagiarize coffee is so goofy it always amazes me how logan makes the worst decisions but stays rich and relevant somehow
The rich stay rich ig, Logan also is incredibly lucky to have made his money how he did
@@iamadrian-oo7bk facts Logan’s luck is truly insane
hes a cash cow. once hes lost his ability to make money all these allegations will hit him
Sold his soul
industry plant
Coffeezilla’s videos are so cinematic 😮
The haters are gonna say “where’s the game or the other 88% of our money” wow
If Logan hasn’t done anything wrong then a refund should prevent lawsuits in this case, to me the clause about dropping the lawsuit in the refund just tells me that he knows there’s more to this.
That means the lawsuit should be going full steam ahead. I wish i had the money to help these guys finance all the lawsuits.
Wow
You're right, I feel there is a big possibility that the calculations of damages might go way higher than everyone is calculating@@Fanta....
I think they're afraid of which books might get opened in a lawsuit. Prime is still being marketed and shipped but I don't ever see it sold. Would not be surprised to find out that Logan's finances are not that clean.
Right? If he truly is innocent, he would be working his _ass_ off to right this wrong. but the intentional dragging his heels, false promises, bad communication, etc all pile up to point to (allegedly) guilty
He must be sued to the fullest extent! How sad it is that the authorities are not acting to prevent such obvious scams of highly incompetent and manipulative individuals just taking a bath in the millions he stole😢
I thought that,he basically done fraud and nothing happening 😮 and major fraud.
More money a person the harder it is to sue a person
It’s possible that the feds are building a case on him. They spend years on big cases like this and they don’t pounce until their case is rock solid. That’s why they have a conviction rate over 90%. Logan Paul should be living in fear of the DOJ.
sometimes it seems like they can't act
I think this crypto shit may have grown over the authorities heads. There's a new scam every other week and they can only investigate and prosecute so many people.
They're just popping up faster than anyone could stomp them out.
Like this was logans 3rd or 4th or something..
Rip justice system...
Why exactly is that thief not in prison? I don't understand
Everytime Logan Paul hears or sees anything about you Coffee, he probably feels furious that someone like you is so public about the choices he made and how he has no intention of fixing them the right way. You're awesome bro!
Logan’s response to any Coffeezilla posts he’s see’s about himself: “FUUUUUCK MEEEEE, not again!!!”
Lol you know his heart drops every time he sees a new video from Coffee. It’s who Logan sees in his worst nightmares, probably throwing pillow punches at the screen in them too 🤣
The fact that in his “apology” video he had to say “Thank you, Coffeezilla” is just *chefs kiss* especially because you can see the pain in his eyes as he says it.
Please don't stop your work. We need people like you. Thank you Coffee.
Just arrest him already
A refund with a string attached to not sue is not a refund... it's called an attempt to settle out of court.
Really boggles my mind how someone with so much money doesn't simply fully refund these people along with an apology. The sheer greed of it all.
if he gave out full refunds he wouldn't be rich anymore. its part of the con.
@@JeddlesThousands of dollars lost by supporters is not comparable to the millions he has. He’s a con artist- nothing more. He can afford to pay disgruntled supporters DOUBLE!
Makes me wonder if there’s something going on behind the scenes (alongside the naked greed). Like, maybe he already spent the money?
He's quite simply a psychopath.
I get the feeling that his assets are not liquid and the constantly fluctuating crypto market makes it difficult to nail down when selling one coin and a percentage of another will give him the enough to make good on his promise while also netting him a profit. It's also possible that he was involved with SBF and has nothing to burn which would explain why no refunds were ever given. The most likely answer though is an actual lawyer got his ear and explained to him that giving any refunds would be viewed as an admission of guilt which is why the refunds now come with the massive string attached that the lawsuit has to die in a fire. Coffee doesn't mention it but if we look at the agreement I wouldn't be surprised if there was some kind of language there suggesting that this is an all or nothing deal. Meaning If the lawsuit itself doesn't go away then no one gets a dime.
There needs to be an AG out there somewhere to take up a criminal case up against this guy. Such an easy slam dunk.
It's gonna have to come from the federal level.
It would have to happen in Texas, and the Texas AG gives zero sh!ts about protecting little investors from scumbags like Logan Paul. In fact, he's in bed with scumbags like Logan Paul, so there's no way he's going to prosecute him.
No, it does NOT "have" to come from the federal level.
If there's one thing prosecutors are good it and do all the time: enforce pretend laws that don't exist but that they assert exist and assert their power to enforce them.@@DJJustFrank
@@theultimatereductionist7592 you are oblivious to the criminal climate of LA and lack of prosecution.
@@DJJustFrankhis residence is Puerto Rico
Scam tens of millions, give back a couple million, and keep the rest. ROI is amazing
He really needs to be held accountable. Every penny needs to be paid back. What a narcissist
I think the funniest part of this whole situation. Years back all these same scammers tried to defend themselves by saying. "Coffeezilla doesn't understand crypto. We have professionals working on our projects. Coffeezilla is just some youtuber." Now a few years later all these same scammers are using Coffeezilla's investigations to try and defend themselves. It's like, "look at Coffee's video. It clearly explains that it's not my fault."
Refunds that come bundled with a lawsuit waiver are NEVER OK.
The fact that they are his supporters and are the reason he has money in the first place. And he still won’t give their money back
It's so insane that we ALL know that he can pay the full amount but won't do it.
It just sucks that he can get away with it because of his status. Horrible. If anyone of us, regular people did this. We would be found within 0-00000001 seconds and 120 years in jail.
It wouldn’t be worth it tho
It’s because crypto is unregulated not because Logan is untouchable
@@BlairAnsorfraud is still illegal
What are you smoking brother, so many influencers do this, even smaller ones lmfao
@@SiriusMined except crypto payments aren’t covered in the legislation and therefore not considered fraud
They should keep to the court route, he just admitted to selling currency to a casino he didn't put out; which means he's also subject to federal and state regulation at various levels, depending on the type, location, and means of gambling.
Upvote this comment boys
Lessgoo
This is an interesting angle. I want to hear more. Boost comment.
@@antlerman7644 Upped the vote, commenting to you to *engage*
@@ayushyadav-bm2to Lessgoo one + all; I thought it was interesting he said "gambling" just from the ages of some buyers...he'd have to know he was selling to underage kids his audience is young AF
He paid a think tank $100s of thousands of dollars and it took them a year to come up with this plan 😂
Yes keep these large creators accountable! Great vid
It’s disgusting to think about how IF he returns 100% of what he owes, his fans and mostly everyone else, will just instantly forgive him and tell the haters how good a guy he is by refunding it all.
It’s important to remember the past. This guy doesn't deserve to be forgiven, ever. No matter what he does. This also isn’t his only scam, he’s done stuff like this since forever.
His pride and greed really show through then the fact that he just incriminated himself even more
As much as I hate logan, you have to admit the absolute fools that invested in his NFTs are just as accountable. How STUPID could you be to invest in Logan Paul? How blind could you be to invest your ENTIRE life savings in to this man given his track record? I blame them all.
Take it easy bro. It's not like he was caught having sex with minors or something. Logan has rarely scammed anyone and didn't make money on this, you may be thinking more of Jake. I'm not even a fan of either.
@@RaniaIsAwesome”rarely scammed anyone and didn’t make any money off this” ya I want what your smoking bro
That's on them to forgive him and possibly invest again in the future. Can't fix stupid.