Holbein Colored Pencil Review from a Professional Artist - Lachri
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2021
- Are Holbein Colored Pencils worth the money? Find out if they live up to their hype in today's review and demonstration.
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Why not ask people who have some Holbein art or artists who actually use the pencils on a regular basis ? Ask peoples who actually matter ?
Holbein, Holbein, Holbein. . . You rained on the TOTALLY wrong parade. . . Sigh. . . LOL!!!
I have watched several reviews on Hobin colored pencils and you are the 1st who hasn't raved about them. After watching this I can't afford taking a chance on them.
Is it just me or a lot of her commentary came across as snobbish?
I love that you were so insistent on these ratings for pencils (actually any artist materials) because I rely on them. I bow down to your patience because you are a better person than me!
Nice review! I had a chance to try them and I was expecting a very soft pencil based on what others said about them and they performed than prismacolor, in fact they reminded me a lot of Arteza (weird huh?) But I did enjoy using them as i like to work fast and lay down lots of color. The price (as with many Japanese art products like copic) is too high for me. That said they are a pretty pencil and feel good to use and I think that is what has attracted so many people to them. I was given a 36 set from a friend and I was able to mix them and make the colors I needed just fine and I love the pastels (but I don't trust the lightfastness of pastels) but in a sketchbook or card it's fine. The dogma around different products is amusing.
I appreciate that you give these brands a chance, even when some don't have a good outcome. I came across the Arteza brand once when I wanted to branch out from prismacolors(the constant breakage and quality decline was killing me lol). The artezas weren't working out for me. It was just weird trying to layer the pigment and just fighting the consistency of the texture. In the end, Luminance and polychromos was for the win 🏆. TFS!
lisa 10 years later: IM STILL WAITING FOR A REPLY HOLBEIN!
I've already spent a small fortune on my pencil collection and now with so many colors all by reputable artist quality company's (FC, CD, Derwent, ) and WC pencils all with verifiable LF ratings....I see no reason to buy Holbeins. Especially with them being so expensive (which I attribute to all the hype)
Allways was sad, that i can't afford them because they have such beautiful colors in their set. Also questioned why their price is so high. Now i am just glad i don't bought them for birthday or something because that company seems not trustworthy at all. Thanks for that video, quality content like allways - much love ♥
Japan has a habit of doing things its own way, which can be both good or bad (I lived in Japan for 8 years). In this case, that also extends to lightfast testing. Remember, Holbein was built as a Japanese company and until recently only sold in Japan. They wouldn't have seen a need to use expensive testing methods that Japanese wouldn't have understood (Initially they probably didn't have access to the facilities to test using Blue Wool or ASTM). Japan is also well known for it's reluctance to change its business practices. I would guess these are the main reasons they use their own testing system.
Lisa, I know it is disturbing to not get forthright answers to your questions . So many companies are so afraid to admit ANY weaknesses at all. I mean, look at the recent Daniel Smith watercolor mineral pigment controversy. So Instead of saying so something like…””we are working on revising our ratings to be more accurate” (customers who purchased the products when they weren’t as “accurate” may say they were duped,) they just throw out a lot of jumbo jumbo hoping that will satisfy most inquiries. Honestly, it’s likely the corporate legal department in most larger companies who have the final say in what customer support tells people. Everyone is afraid of a lawsuit or a PR mess, so in their eyes, the less full technical info they give out, the better…they think. As long as their bottom line doesn’t suffer too much, no changes are likely forthcoming about the full accuracy of Holbein pigments and their respective lightfast ratings for their COLOR PENCILS. (Although didn’t YTuber Jane Bush have a video about the revised colors in Holbein’s color pencils?” ) I use some of their watercolors and they’re very good pro quality. And as you know, to be considered “professional artist quality” pigment numbers must be disclosed and Holbein does disclose pigment identification on their watercolors, and I assume their other painting mediums. Many paint makers out there (with some exceptions) could be fooling us. We may never know. There is a level of trust that we tend to give pretty freely and sort of have to unless we want to spend all our time verifying every pigment listed or “highly lightfast” statement on every tube of paint or color medium we possess. Actually lightfast ratings in color pencils never used to be discussed so much, or not that I heard. Now every color medium out there seems to make a statement about their lightfastness, but only if they disclose their pigments can we even be close to being reassured of their lightfastness.
I was on the verge of buying these, glad I checked here first! Your reviews are super honest and really reflect the product. I tried the Polychromos after watching your review a couple years ago and they've been my go to ever since :D
I remember buying one of the Holbein watercolor value sets on amazon years ago (which is advertised as lightfast) and discovering to my disappointment that nearly a third of all the paints were made with pigments commonly known to be fugitive :( I actually ended up enjoying their paints and still use a few of them. I know that Holbein is more competitively priced in Japan and is popular among Japanese illustrators and designers. I think with all the convenience mixtures and neon/pastel options in the watercolor line that the brand caters more to illustrators/designers overall, hence all the opaqueness regarding the lightfastness of their products.
I love your videos so much. I don’t even color or draw anymore but always watch your videos! Thank you for them.
I have wanted to try Holbein for years - back when Amazon sold them from Japan. When they finally came to the US the price really put me off. I kept going back to them when I was on someplace like Blick but, that was dreaming.
I admit that I'm a massive Holbein fangirl because their watercolors are a favorite of an acclaimed Japanese director of animated films (Miyazaki) and because of the 50 lovely pastel colors in their colored pencil range. To each their own!
Thanks for the review of the Holbein Artest pencils. I had purchased a dozen of them for the larger areas of the color by number pages .
Thank you for your comments, and thank you for thinking and considering other options as to why people might want these, as well as illustrating that they shine best using different techniques. I grabbed the pastels plus a few extra, almost all the light colours because I want those lighter colours for colouring pages and the like. It's very disappointing on their lack of transparency for lightfast - I wonder if their "about 25 years" is a situation where it should be read as more of a "these can last up to 25 years under optimal conditions", i.e. if a pencil lasts 18m-2yrs it gets 1 star which might correlate with your thoughts on the colours that are not generally lightfast.
appuldes !! Awesome work and thank you for going through this to show us what as a customer you can go through. This is a great way to show an unbias approach. Thank you