This was fantastic. Loved the setting and actually taught me about seal twisting. I tried several other videos but none are as clear and concise as yours.
Very good video, been looking for this for ages. Seal twisting is a thing in vanilla but sadly not as great as in TBC. But at least we ret pallies have a little something to work with.
Does the SoC hit not also proc SoR? I know this was the case with SoB in TBC, but I could have sworn I remembered this also happening when I twisted SoCSoR leveling up my Paladin and when I did it against Prince.
Awesome. Video, short and to The point. I would love to know what swing timer addon / weak aura you Are using? I only use the normal weapons swing timer Sixx fix and it does not have The colored bars and The little Window indication of when to switch seals
Apologies for the delayed response! I've been working on a video about that very topic to assist others who were curious. It's available on the channel 😊
Sorry for the late response. I use a WeakAura for the seal twisting swing timer. You can find a link to it in the 'Channel FAQ' video on the channel or on the Shortcut's & Shenanigan's subreddit, where you can also read about the reason for the late response. Thanks for your understanding! 🙏
i was doing some reading and someone said fiery wep proc counts as a hit for nightfall chance to proc, have you heard of this? also makes me wonder after watching your video if SOR counts as a second hit does it double the proc chance of fiery. great video btw
I'm glad you liked the video 🙏😊 Regarding Fiery Weapon and Nightfall, I'm not certain, but I have my doubts about it counting as a hit. Both SoR and SoC can proc Fiery Weapon - and with the Trash Opener, you can potentially get up to 4x Fiery Weapon procs 🔥
You can explore Nightfall enchant options on the Shortcut's & Shenanigan's WoWhead profile. Feel free to check it out! 😊 Link: www.wowhead.com/classic/gear-set/nightfall-bis-181936
It depends on whether your initial melee hit lands. If it does, and you seal twist correctly, Seal of Righteousness (SoR) has a 100% chance to hit and counts as an extra melee hit (although it does holy damage). Seal of Command (SoC) isn't guaranteed to proc, but when it does, it also counts as an extra melee hit (with holy damage) 😊
here is one of the opener macros: start with seal of wisdom or seal of crusader. walk up and don't attack but have target selected. when you are literally standing on the mob, hit the macro and it will instantly apply the opener perfectly. #showtooltip /cast Judgement /cast Seal of Righteousness /startattack
Maybe because the minmaxing paladins that focus on damage and appear on any logs at all aren't using nightfall and this is a complete inefficient waste of mana for any purpose other than nightfall procs in classic in any lengthy encounter, you dimwit.
this deserves more attention. Great guide, entertaining and informational11
I'm glad you enjoyed the guide! 😁
@@ShortcutsShenanigans is there a weakaura for that swingtimer with the line for both seals timing
This was fantastic. Loved the setting and actually taught me about seal twisting. I tried several other videos but none are as clear and concise as yours.
well explained. Probl. one of the best guide out here on yt. Ty very much
Best video on this subject, thank you. Helped big time!!
Great video, very well produced. Best tutorial on the topic I've seen
How kind of you! I'm thrilled to hear that you found it well-produced. It means a lot to me, thanks! 🙏😊
idk why i found this on my recommended list but it was an enjoyable watch. i dont play wow classic, only wotlk right now :)
Glad you enjoyed 😊
Can you explain what’s the purpose of the reset macro 29 secs? Why is that worth using than just the one without the reset timer?
Nice video mate, it pains me how many ret paladins/palas in general dont know about this.
Same here, that's why I made the video 😊🎥 Glad you liked it!
Yo bro what is the addon you use for your interface/having your active seals/available spells show up on in the middle of the screen?
Get storm gauntlets or the plate gauntlets that add +2 fire dmg.
Each proc from those gloves gives 1 more chance for all on hit proc affects
Cool video
Getting into paladin after playing rogue for so long on horde side
Welcome to the Paladin ranks! 😊 Enjoy your journey!
Great editing on this video. I found it very engaging
Thank you! 🙏 I'm glad you enjoyed it 😊
This video deserves more views
Thank you for your kind words! 🙏🙂
What enchants do you use? Would you advise haste enchants?
Very well edited video! Great job! It deserves more attention!
Oh, thank you! 😊 I'm glad you liked it!
I tested this, your coefficient data is wrong. The only 0.18 is rank 3, rank 1 and 3 are lower like 0.10-0.12. Rank 4+ is low as well like you said
Very good video, been looking for this for ages. Seal twisting is a thing in vanilla but sadly not as great as in TBC. But at least we ret pallies have a little something to work with.
Glad you enjoyed it! 😊 Yes, indeed, Seal Twisting spices up the gameplay for Paladins in Vanilla.
wondering what seal to apply after the judge if i'm just leveling :D? sor I guess rdy for next mob?
Does the SoC hit not also proc SoR? I know this was the case with SoB in TBC, but I could have sworn I remembered this also happening when I twisted SoCSoR leveling up my Paladin and when I did it against Prince.
Ever watch Civil Protection from accursed farms back in the day? You sound the one of the characters bro hahaha that's awesome
Awesome. Video, short and to The point. I would love to know what swing timer addon / weak aura you Are using? I only use the normal weapons swing timer Sixx fix and it does not have The colored bars and The little Window indication of when to switch seals
Apologies for the delayed response! I've been working on a video about that very topic to assist others who were curious. It's available on the channel 😊
Where do I get the weakaura or addon you.uae to see the timing of the seal so I know when I have to switch seal ?
You can check out this video 😉
czcams.com/video/WXvEziLaQRA/video.html
quality video, thanks for sharing
My pleasure! I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😊
Which is the addon or weakaura that shows the 0.4s window on the swing timer?
Sorry for the late reply!
You can check out this video 😉
czcams.com/video/WXvEziLaQRA/video.html
what addon ar eyou using for the seal twisting swing timer?
Sorry for the late response.
I use a WeakAura for the seal twisting swing timer. You can find a link to it in the 'Channel FAQ' video on the channel or on the Shortcut's & Shenanigan's subreddit, where you can also read about the reason for the late response.
Thanks for your understanding! 🙏
i was doing some reading and someone said fiery wep proc counts as a hit for nightfall chance to proc, have you heard of this? also makes me wonder after watching your video if SOR counts as a second hit does it double the proc chance of fiery. great video btw
I'm glad you liked the video 🙏😊
Regarding Fiery Weapon and Nightfall, I'm not certain, but I have my doubts about it counting as a hit.
Both SoR and SoC can proc Fiery Weapon - and with the Trash Opener, you can potentially get up to 4x Fiery Weapon procs 🔥
Good video wich addon for the auto attack timer with the .4 sec at the end?
You'll find a WeakAura link in the 'Channel FAQ' video or on the Shortcut's & Shenanigan's subreddit 😊
Such a fun vidya
Works with Ironfoe aswell?
It sure does 😉
Also i tested BRE on PTR couldnt procc it from SOr only from command
Thanks for the tip! 👍😊
what is the best enchant for nightfall?
You can explore Nightfall enchant options on the Shortcut's & Shenanigan's WoWhead profile. Feel free to check it out! 😊
Link: www.wowhead.com/classic/gear-set/nightfall-bis-181936
Getting a hit from both seals is or isn't a guaranteed?
It depends on whether your initial melee hit lands. If it does, and you seal twist correctly, Seal of Righteousness (SoR) has a 100% chance to hit and counts as an extra melee hit (although it does holy damage). Seal of Command (SoC) isn't guaranteed to proc, but when it does, it also counts as an extra melee hit (with holy damage) 😊
I thought so, because that was my experience during TBC classic, thanks.
Nightfall cannot proc during gcd making twisting unfeasible here
I know that was the case in 2019 classic. But it seemed to proc in one of the clips in the video. Maybe thats fixed?
Could you share your addon/weakauras plz?
You can find a link to the WeakAura in the "Channel FAQ" video or on the Shortcut's & Shenanigan's subreddit 😊
here is one of the opener macros: start with seal of wisdom or seal of crusader. walk up and don't attack but have target selected. when you are literally standing on the mob, hit the macro and it will instantly apply the opener perfectly.
#showtooltip
/cast Judgement
/cast Seal of Righteousness
/startattack
Wait a second, people invite ret paladins into raids in Classic? Well, that's one way that it's very different from the original vanilla.
Haha! Yes, the times have indeed changed 😊
The TBC version of this was far more exciting
Nice too bad horde doesn't have paladins
I agree 😢
Cool video, but ret damage with or w/o twisting is till too low on Vanilla.
Yeah, I know what you mean 😅 Glad you liked the video! 🙏😊
Unfortunately nightfall is a waste :{
Was wondering how no1 was doong this in all the logs i saw i guess ret paladin players are trully garbsge
I think it's simply because not enough players know about it - which is also the reason I decided to make this video 🙂
probably b/c it's not a huge dmg increase like tbc
@@ShortcutsShenanigans top lad
Maybe because the minmaxing paladins that focus on damage and appear on any logs at all aren't using nightfall and this is a complete inefficient waste of mana for any purpose other than nightfall procs in classic in any lengthy encounter, you dimwit.
yeah the whole 5 people playing ret in raid.