Consumer Reports' Top Reliable Vehicles of 2024 (Some Are WRONG)
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- Consumer Reports gave us their top 10 most reliable cars of 2024. They included SUVs and more in their big yearly list of 2024 reliable vehicles. However, they're wrong and I'm going to show you why. It's not a great idea (in my opinion) to just blindly follow the Consumer Reports list. Many of these are still great
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The eCVT on the toyota hybrids are a completely different animal from a standard CVT. Tne eCVT doesn't use pulleys and a metal band. eCVT uses electric motors and a planetary gearset. Completely different.
here in norway we have lots of toyota and lexus hybrid taxis. They can easily pass 200.000km without any major issues. One guy had a lexus hybrid taxi, and i think it reached over 300.000km on the original hybrid battery, and no issues with the e-cvt. Now all taxis must be fully electric when bought new, so some taxi owners now must buy used cars to escape the EV mandate.
Scotty Kilmer suggests, "avoid the turbo."
CR does their study by sending surveys, and it's a study of initial quality. You want a better measure, check with your mechanic. Consumer reports are okay for one report for some research,, but it's not the end all be all.
I also speak with many people, some of which are mechanics and some
Personal experience leads me here too.
@@ECPP cool, thanks for the feedback. In my personal experience Subaru's with the FA20 and FA24 have been very reliable. The updated CVT transmission has used a chain not a built driven one like jatco since 2016. It's still not my favorite transmission either, but there have been limited issues. I only know 4 people with Subaru's but none of them have problems and only one has one as new as 2019
My 2018 Outback 3.6 started oil consumption. Dealership said it was because I went 500 miles over service. Really empty
@@cristinearias6613 thanks for the feedback.
I'll say this about Toyota, they wouldn't be doing turbos if they couldn't hold the reliability they have had. I'd still trust a luxus with turbos over a Mercedes with them, that's for sure. Toyota does extensive reliability test.
I would anticipate reliability to be on the top of list
Do any carmakers make their own turbochargers?
From the beginning the lubrication was the weak point! The oils are way better/different now compared to before.
Are there any turbos without being connected to the coolant system?
You can't compare today's turbos to those of yesterday. Two different things!
Then turbos can be made more or less complex, of course, to a cost of reliability.
Then you may not turn the engine off when the turbo is very hot! But if you have read the driving instructions, you know that for sure.
@@leiflillandt1488 Mitsubishi makes their own turbos and they also supply the turbos to other manufacturers like GM. Mitsubishi also makes their own electronics and air conditioners too.
The funny thing is people who say turbos are bad....do they remember how bad NA engines sucked in the 80s ad 90s? Yeah 80s Saab turbos sucked...but everything sucked. Turbos are so well engineered today and they low end torque and performance at elevation make them a great choice.
@@leiflillandt1488 ........................Yesterday OR Today the Spool up and run HOTTTT!...There-by is the issue because Mercedes and Euros uses plastic fluid clamps....excessive heat causes cracks/leaks and guess when....Just after warr. runs out????....Hmmmm built in Service.... to support dealers...ThiMk bout it!
My dad bought a 2018 x5 40i in 2019. We live in rural russia with harsh weather and bad roads. This car has never given us any problems. Hapy 160k kms. Just usual maintenance in supreme luxury
It’s a great engine and platform overall
You can get very reliable German cars but I will let the stigma continue because I buy them depreciated haha!
For some reason, the times I've rented cars when in Europe they fill better than the states. Stronger for some reason. I wonder if that's so? Could it be less regulated requirements? @musicultra571 2018 x5 ? BMW?
I used to be obsessed with Consumer Reports growing up. I will also take your opinion into consideration over that organization. They most definitely have been getting tipped off for years.
Thanks so much. While they do collect a lot of data, I believe there is more to add and that’s what we know after a few years and actual failures at a much more I depth persoective
Consumer Reports doesn't take any money from the manufacturers of the products they review. In addition to testing numerous cars, they also rely on the vehicle survey data submitted by their subscribers. In fact, they usually go back several years to let prospective owners know not only what vehicles are less reliable, the problem areas, and the model years that were least and most reliable. 18:35
Just got a Rav4 this past June and I love it! Toyota for the win!
Bingo
I drove Subaru's for 10 years. When the Forester started having battery problems I switched to a Mazda CX5. I love it!
You sir have earned my subscription. Doing a detailed, substance filled, unbiased reviews out on the snow is the definition of passion and commitment. And your channel is growing because of it. Stay true to your values and more success will follow. Thank you and keep the videos coming.
Thanks for the sub! I really appreciate the support and yes I definitely have passion for this industry and always have so I believe in sharing everything I can.
I will say I leased an Acura RDX A spec and put 60k miles on it and didn’t have NOT ONE single problem and NEVER had to change a tire or brakes. My favorite car to own and wished I kept it
So you would buy another?
I also leased a Subaru and my wife LOVED it never had an issue with it and was a great car. It is VERY RELIABLE
Sounds great
Love your videos Mark. HAPPY EASTER TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY
Thanks so much, and i also wish a wonderful weekend to you and yours too. Have a great week too.
@@ECPP THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Interested in what list you used for this. The articles I’ve seen have a different top 10. Though those lists have categories, is this list just overall?
You have real experience and i like that. Thank you!
Thank you very much
First off that is a 2013
Forestor with a 4 Speed Auto and the old 2.5 EJ turbo motor. Their AWD system is superior to anything in class.
I just subscribed. Your reviews are outstanding.
Thank you very much and welcome aboard
2018 BMW 330i 100k kms on it. Had been eating 87 only still doing fine. B48/58 engine are unbreakable
There have been folks who have commented, actually gave a criticized retort, to my prior comments about driving our two Toyotas: A 2022 Tacoma Sport (naturally aspirated V6) and a 2023 RAV 4 Adventure (non-turbo, 4 cyl) as being "boring". If boring means proven reliability, so be it. Hopefully the new gen Toyotas with the turbo fours will continue to maintain Toyota reliability. And if things do go south, the cost to repair is much less expensive as is maintenance.
I would expect with problems follows timely solutions as is usual Toyota.
@@ECPP Yep, they have no tolerance for defects in their manufacturing and when any issue arises, they take care of their customers.
There is no doubt that Toyotas are boring vehicles. They have never advertised themselves as building exciting cars. Let's be real. No one is going to mistake the ride quality in a European car for a Toyota. They build reliable, efficient cars and that's what consumers want. The downside to that is that you get a relatively mundane, no-frills ride.
Great content Mark !!! Spring is coming ✌🏻🇨🇦
Can't wait!
Yep, I have a 2.5 liter naturally aspirated engine plus the hybrid electric motor in my 2023 ES300h, Ultra Luxury trim. Bulletproof is the word and no frickin turbo. I'm averaging 42+ MPG in city/hwy driving around town and about 40+ on road trips averaging 75 miles per hour.
Perfect setup for economy and longevity
But life’s too short to- never mind
Used car lot owner trying to push cars off his lot
I have the same setup in my camry
So I do a great catch. I just hooked 2024 4Runner LTD 4X4, just under $58k ( $57-ish ). I start falling in love with that at first glance. I rolled over 50 miles right after picking up the vehicle on the same day. I would love to get 300 series Land Cruiser, but Toyota had removed them.
Till then, I love every single mile with my wifey 4x4. ❤️🔥❤️🔥
Hello from Romania. Congratulations for all the work and effort. Can you please tell me your opinion regarding the reliability between Mazda cx-5 2.5 2022 (facelift) and Lexus Nx300h 2020? Which one is better? Thank you very much.
Mazda does it better.
Dacia
No surprise 4 Runner #1. It’s built in Japan. Japanese cars built in Japan are better.
They are solid
Great video Mark, I agree some of CR’s picks are not the most reliable.
Thank you. They are close but in my opinion. Not always bang on
Thanks for that tip on that Subaru SUV . Great video !
Thanks for the support
Grateful for this channel! Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much for the support
Thanks for this useful information! Question: Do you think people who click on this title care about the look of wheels, headlights, and tail lights? You focus a bit much on minor external appearance stuff.
Thanka
I am glad that Consumer Reports did not rank Jeep and Porsche the most reliable of 2024.
Haha
It seems like reliability has always equaled boredom. Thankfully BMW has stepped it up and given us an incredible engine, and the latest technology. I’m not expecting them to be flawless, and of course the cost to own will be more than Lexus. However the joy of owning one knowing that it won’t be a total pain is worth it now.
Yeah I have notice it has definitely stepped up it's Reliability now than 12 years ago knowing a Toyota Supra has a 2 and 3 litre engine from BMW shows how far BMW has improved now only time will tell if it's able to last 😊
Love the channel
Thank you for the support
Only CVT Transmission you should trust is the one's built by Toyota ❤
Agreed
I doubt Toyota uses CVT trans. It uses E-CVT on hybrids, and it's a totally different animal and, yes, it can be trusted.
Very good video. 👍
Thank you
My dad commutes to work everyday 5 days a week. Round trip 3 hours everyday on the highway he lives in California. He has a few year old Toyota Corolla LE with the 1.8L 4 cylinder port injected engine and CVT transmission. His Corolla is manufactured in Japan. I can't believe he has over 285k+ miles on it. Only done oil changes, brake pads, transmission fluid changes, tires and spark plugs. He is retiring next year in 2025 he said he will continue to drive it even after he retires. 🤣🤣
Can’t go wrong with those cars
I did catch clearly what you said about the current bmw v8 on bmw like m550i are you saying they are still bad after all bmw did ,that engine is more than 14 years old you mean they haven't perfected it yet ?
Well it finally happened. After 13 years of ownership, my Acura just had something that needed to be replaced that wasn't a consumable. Have to get a new starter. Pretty good trade for having nine years with no car payments.
Yes, Toyota CVT on hybrid, powered by an electric motor, maybe more like a VFD and more reliable than a standard CVT?
Toyota used an “E-CVT”!
I have a 2022 x5 and i love it so much, it has the 40i without air suspension. I got extended warranty until 2029 with maintenance package. Coming from a boring lexus RX350
I really love your car reviews.They are awesome. I do have a quick question. When you talk about the Forester, why do you keep talking about that 2009-2013 model instead of the current model like you did with all the other vehicles ? The current Forester is WAY better than that 2009-2013 model which is considered a turd for Subaru. The current Forester is also not as ugly as the 2009-2013 model.
Nice work brother
Thanks for the visit
I currently have '21 BMW M5 (purchased new 8/20) and have ZERO issues. Agree with the first gen N63 engines; I brought one of the first 2010 BMW 550i (first N63) and it was in the shop 60% of the time with turbo heating issues/turbo cooling lines, burning oil and etc. due to hot vee turbos configuration.
PS I had a 2014 550 (replaced the 2010) and a 2018 M550 with no issues. The key with these engines, you need to let the car cool off for a few minutes to let the turbos cool off before shutting the car off.
That means you need to sit in the car for few minutes after parked before turning off the engine?
@@manofsesame3024 Correct - ANY car with a hot V engine setup (especially V8s) such as BMW, Porsche, Mercedes, Audis and etc. where turbochargers are placed neatly between the two banks of cylinders.
Pro: Less turbo lag
Con: Excess heat.
Bottom line, if you shut off the engine before letting it cool down then the electric fan will kick in and drain your battery sooner than later. Just the nature of the beast.
What’s up with that G wagon next to the runner.
Do you like it?
That generation of Toyota Camry is good if you get the models after 2020. I have a 2019 model and the transmission blew up at 90,000 miles. Luckily it was covered under CPO warranty but I took SIX MONTHS to get another transmission for it and it’s STILL having problems. Apparently when it first came out that generation was riddled with transmission issues. Nothing beats the OG six speed setup 😂
Hey Mark j have personally owned a 2015 BMW 435i xdrive M performance edition with a six speed manual with the n55 engine, since new has 170,000km still runs great and not babied, other the the usual isssues valve cover gasket and oil filter gasket, do your maintenance and its a reliable machine
Sounds great! Teliability dies follow solid maintenance regime
Another vote for Mazda 3.. Wife has a 22 and loves it. I had a 2017 six with 86k trouble free miles. Traded it in on a 22 CX9. Great looks and quality are a Mazda strong suit.
That generation Forester XT does not use a CVT. It has a turbo engine and a 4 spd automatic. It’s actually highly sought after
Cheers
Yep, makes no sense comparing a Gen 3 Fozzie with current series Toyotas and Honda's. We've had three Foresters Gen 3, Gen 4 and Gen 5. No fan of the cvt but we've not had any issues either. Unlike most other SUVs it's permanent awd actually gives it genuine dirt track (not serious offroad) capability while still being civilised on urban roads.
How come this is a 2024 list and you present a XT Forester? They don’t even make them anymore, and the oil consumption and head gasket problem was solved more than 10 years ago…
Toyota knows how to make good automobiles. That’s why people like and purchase the brand.
TFL's Tacoma with Turbo already had to replace the diff box
I don't like Toyota's cars. I don't care how "reliable" they are. IMO they are cheap and simple made and are very boring. Dacia Duster 1.5dCI is "reliable" too, but it doesn't mean it's a nice car.
I have subscribed Consumer Reports almost 30 years and I hate to go against them but I’ve got to agree with you on this one Mark. The Forester is no shabby but I would take the CR-V instead. If I have to have a BMW SUV, I would rather have the X3 instead of the X5. I don’t want to deal with those air suspension. Good job!
I just bought my first Toyota ever a 4Runner I’ll let you know in about 10 years!
Great buy. They will run forever.
I hear Mazda has teamed up with Toyota so......there you go.Great reliability from Mazda.Maybe Mazda did it on their own but I doubt it.
I know a good mechanic in Kansas that would disagree with your assessment of German made vehicles especially BMW’s & Audi’s. He HATES working on German vehicles because 1) They use far too much plastic in their engine spaces & 2) They sure as hell DON’T make them for mechanics to work on. He had to charge one customer over 2 thousand dollars to replace a $30 dollar THERMOSTAT because of having to basically remove the entire front end & engine front of the vehicle because they located the thermostat inside the engine block behind all the belts, pulleys, radiator, water pump, front fascia, headlights, etc..
Mazda3 beats Corolla in looks and performance, but the Corolla is more practical and less risky for reliability. Certain years of the 2.5 liter engine has issues with cracked cylinder heads. This is with both the turbo and non turbo model. It remains to seen whether this issue is actually fixed in the newest models.
The Corolla sedan barely has enough room for 6 foot tall adults in the back seat. The Mazda 3 is even smaller in back to the point that the lack of space in the back seat may make it completely unusable in that case.
Both great economy cars that are reliable as all get up
Any BMW with the B58 engine is going to be near the top in terms of reliability and refinement. That's arguably the best overall turbo gas engine on the market today. It has a closed-deck block and a water to air intercooler. That's a really nice setup that can handle WAY more power than they make stock. They're just not stressed in stock tune.
They are a pretty solid unit these days
Our 2020 UX has given us 50k miles of hard mountain & desert driving. We're keeping it for the duration, or 250,000 miles.
They will last for a losing time and honestly a real workhorse that’s hard to duplicate anywhere else
This is a reliability commentary, not a luxury evaluation.
Toyota hybrids have ECVT, not cvt.
Cheers
I love Toyota but their dealerships are terrible!
Well this video is Scotty Kilmer approved.
Nice
Toyota is unmatched for reliabilty. I agree too about BMW and that hot engine. It may be reliable short term but eventually that is going to cost some $$$. Great as always.
Well said!
if people know how to take care of a German car it’ll last… I’ve seen this shorts where this guy said “people wanna get a German car, but maintain it like a Japanese car.”
@@Katiemtz099 you are right. I own a 2019 Mercedes S560 but maitain it like a Mercedes. This car has been amazing. It is more $$$ to maintain but for me worth it. I agree with Mark, life is to short to driver boring cars. Good day and great comment.
"Maintain" lol....aka replace parts frequently
@@Katiemtz099 they might be in if you don’t have to drive it every single day and put a ton of miles. If you could leave it at home parked in a nice garage then yeah maybe.
I hesitate to be a stickler, but the magazine is "Consumer Reports", not "ConsumerS Reports".
Toyota and Lexis are great, reliable vehicles but OEM parts are very expensive
Subaru Forrester looks like the Toyota 2003 Highlander I had for 16 years.
Mazda is great! Unfortunately, their resale values are not on par with Toyota or Honda!
Exactly
All these Small Engines with turbos are just part of CAFE restrictions.. including the terrible Auto stop start . They are making the Auto industry very unreliable.. Battery/ EV vehicles are already subpar in their reliability ratings..
The 4Runner is definitely an amazing vehicle for off road, but unfortunately you'll need to own gas station to keep with its consumption 😂.
I wonder if there is a vehicle that has all wheel drive and perform well in snow and on iced roads while it's still efficient with fuel
Subaru.
@@stevedott715 which one? Fortress?
@@Jean.34 all have great AWD, just pick the size you need, also most are consumer reports recommended.
But 4Runner will still outlast anything on the road!
@@stevedott715 definitely 4Runner is a tank built to last. Honestly, I have been considering RAV4 hybrid lately though I feel it's a bit small for a tall guy.
Consumer Report follows the money too! C’mon, can’t believe anything nowadays!!!
It's Consumer Reports. Not Consumers Reports.
Mazda is a great car. I have owned six of them.
Clearly he didn’t do any research and is making things up.
This is a previous gen Forester from 2014-2018😂 7:32
thanks
I’d rather see a list of different car brands than one brand different models
Thanks
My 2020 Honda CR-V has almost 90K km on it and on the original brake pads and rotors. I’ve never experienced anything like it.
I’ve had a 2010 & 2016 similar models and usually replace the pads at 50K & 80 K.
I have done more highway driving and this model has no oil dilution problem like the 2017-18 models.
Original All-Season tires as well but I do have Winter Tires as well.
Extraordinary quality at 4-years old. I’ve had a 1998, 2006, 2011 & 2013 Toyota Sienna as well. Always had the same maintenance too. Around 50K I had to replace the front pads, All-Season Tires were good for about 75K.
1 engine problem with my 2011 Sienna. No other issues to report other than around 120K I had fuel injection issues which required cleaning or replacement.
Never had an issue with Honda engines. Very reliable and great gas mileage. I would recommend both for reliability other than my 2011 Toyota.
Engine belt went at 2-years old and destroyed the engine. 1st time Toyota tried a 4-cylinder engine in a Minivan.
Toyota does take more risks than Honda… usually Honda won’t put a new technology on the road until it’s proven. Toyota will.
You can’t beat Honda engines on performance and reliability.
The CVT comes from Subaru
Consumer Report is consistent in their ratings.
How would you know it's reliable if it's brand new buddy?
Which one do you speak of? Generally extrapolation and learnings from past offerings.
Is that fake snow?
Who is this guy? Did he hack the CR website?
no
Hahhh
The Toyota 4Runner is one of the last Toyotas that are made in Japan!
Bro is looking like Mel Gibson
B48 and B58 are the best engines built by BMW stay away from the twin turbo V8 N63 😊
Exactly
Mazda have great looking cars but they are WAY behind with Hybrids and Fuel Efficiency in general.
They keep it back to basics and less techy which is what a lot of buyers are looking for.
You keep using the word gorgeous. What does the word gorgeous have to do with reliability?
Toyota & Honda❤
I was thinking of getting a Corolla Cross hybrid if my car turns out to be unreliable, but after I looked at actual owner reviews, I had second thoughts. Some people love their 2024 Corolla, but others regret their purchase due to a loud engine and sensor and electrical problems. Some say their new car is at Toyota more often than they have it to drive. Corollas used to be reliable, but I'm not entirely sure about that anymore. (I haven't totally made up my mind yet.) I also don't treat Consumer Reports as the word of God like I used to. I don't think their decisions are scientific or unbiased, and they reveal no data as to how they arrived at their decisions, only the percentages they arrived at. They use their road tests, their opinion based on previous years, their annual survey (which many readers don't fill out) and subscriptions for all magazines are constantly dropping. That means they rely on a lot of qualitative data (not quantitative), especially their own opinions, which are subject to bias. Maybe I will need to look at a RAV-4.
Those Toyota Cross Hybrids are made in a Mazda factory in USA producing both the Toyota Corolla Cross and the Mazda CX-50 on two side-by-side assembly line. So that's why some people having problems. Get a made in Japan Toyota Corolla Sedan hybrid or RAV4 Hybrid made in Japan. I have a cousin he's a master technician working in California at $50 an hour for Lexus dealership he sees more Lexus problems when made in USA or Canada and usually no big issues when those Lexus are made in Japan. Easy to tell if it's made in Japan VIN number starts with the letter J
I would take a Mazda over Toyota/Honda any day… although I’m a German car girl 😂😂
Mazdas are quite good these days
Mazda is reliable , however the sky active engines being direct injected are known for carbon buildup overtime compared to Toyota.
I was a Honda owner for 40 years, so I went a bought a 2024 Mazda cx5. Go figure.
I have both Mazda 3 2018 and Toyota Highlander Hybrid 2023. Both are reliable cars. I'm from Europe and BMW everywhere one of the reason I don't want to buy it.
@@Twisted_Individual people who own BMW is the states can’t drive & they’re all kids
Thank you for quickly recovering from your overuse, hackneyed use of the word “literally.”
I like what you're saying about Mazda & its improving reliability, but my concern is with its design. The Toyota Corolla looks like it was designed by people who are talented in that sort of thing, but (in my mind) the entire Mazda fleet looks extruded... like big balls of greasy clay pushed out of a machine. Pointy on the front & round on the back. Inspired by a wind tunnel with nothing more to it.
edit: readability
Consumer reports data is hugely flawed. They only survey owners who actually subscribe to CR. How many of us do that? Right.
Does anyone here use automotive repair apps… or any kind of automotive related apps
BMW is a luxury brand, they must be aesthetically pleasing. But reliability is not their forte, we all know that. BMW does not belong on a “reliability” list. Heck, Consumer Report say they are more reliable than the Highlander. This kind of discrepancy bring their credibility into sharp focus.
Be attentive to how they compile their data.
The B48 and B58 are supremely reliable engines, the ZF8HP transmission they use in most all their cars is bulletproof. BMW earned a spot on this list. This isn't the E60 M5 we're talking about, even Toyota is using BMW powertrains and components now.
@@embiggens1they aren’t supremely reliable when compared to other non performance brands. The b58/48 use lots of plastic parts and are tuned to deliver high performance numbers. Zf8 while reliable is not bulletproof proof and costs a fair amount when you service it.
Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Subaru, Nissan, the best. Without Ghosn, things will go great for Nissan, so it's ok having them into account now.
What a car salesmen! In the real world what you're hearing is a spell that dips in your financial stability look at him he doesn't need to fake authority the goatee naturally does the job, i am mesmerized 3 mins in to this performance i just wanna give him the average profit he makes per car without buying a car from him look at his hand... You believe me now he have an invisible wand we just can't see it😵💫
From a real Customer.
Well CR is full of it. I had a 2019 RDX A Spec. NYC gas mileage 9 to 12, Blank display along with unable to change drive mode after just starting the car and oh GOD that awful track pad. Acura is not Acura like they were in the 90's. So glad for the pandemic that I sold the car back with no loss. Yes Acura tried to fix it piss poor customer service from Corp down. And I did not drive it hard.
Never again will I buy a Acura they treat you like you bought a FORD.
Now I have a 2022 Lexus RX 350 Prem, what can I say well NYC gas millage 12 to 17, everything works. Fit and finish top notch. Better gas millage with a heaver car,. Wow what a shocker. Oh yeah and that is with Regular gas not Prem like the RDX.
Trust me I wanted to love Acura like I did in the 90's but they are not like they were in the 90's. They can advertise driving the RDX like a NSX but lets face reality it's SUV not a NSX sports car.
Stay away from Acura if you want a good car.
CR use to be "reliable" source to buying car.
Now it’s quite honestly exoticcar playplace
Nissan Altima could take Subaru's spot.
I think Mazda is being pushed as a great vehicle. Yes, the aesthetics are pretty good. However, their drivetrain is not trustworthy.
What problems with their drive train are you referring to
Isn’t Mazda owed by Toyota?
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Not trusting CR
Thanks. Thats why I trust only CERTAIN elements
Reliability is NOT a measure of vehicle Quality BUT a measure of vehicle COST.
All reliability is built into every vehicle by it's manufacturer AND can be clearly measured in
the time the operator spends behind the steering wheel before he/she pays to have that reliability restored.
Take luxury vehicles for example; they are designed to be NO LeSs reliable than ALL other vehicles BUT
What they are not designed to do (in general) is keep that reliability for a long sustained period of uSe.
This is because current fashionable driving luxury and AGING; do NOT go Hand and Hand.
Thus the luxury car, ALSO being a measure of financial SuCceSs,
it's newness says you are doing well enough to afford it's short life of from NEW reliability.
There is nO need for anyone to feaR a uSed luxury vehicle, as long as they aRe Willing &
Ready to spend that "chunk OF change" IN order to re$tore it back to it's highe$t reliability. "Good Info As Usual; ECPP"
I think the Camry sedan is absolutely gorgeous.
They are nice indeed
💯👍
Cheers