Punk & The New Wave 1976-1978 ~ The Way They Were
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- Old Punk documentry from Granada TV on Channel 4. Features (in order):-
Sex Pistols, Elvis Costello, Buzzcocks, John Cooper Clarke, Iggy Pop, Wreckless Eric, Ian Dury, Penetration, Blondie, Fall, Jam, Jordan, Devo, Tom Robinson Band, Johnny Thunder, Elvis Costello, XTC, Jonathan Richman, Nick Lowe, Siouxie & the Banshees, Cherry Vanilla & Magazine..... The tape fails there!
I have left the adverts in for historical reference - TSB, Once, Cluster, Coke is it, Roger Daltery in American Express, Ulay, Swan, Our Price, Gastrils, Cluster & Prestige.
All content remains the copyright of the current holders ~ I claim none. - Hudba
This was my generation. I live in America and, when I was 16, used to pick up NME to find out who the next great ban was. We had Blondie, Talking Heads, Iggy, The Ramones, and Lou Reed. You guys had, well, everyone else. Thank you, Britain.
Allan Ostermann Yeah mate, but Ramones started it all. Street punks who couldn't play too well. The Pistols and their entourage were a load of pretentious students, also look at Joe Strummer, his dad was a diplomat and he was playing shite r n b before he saw Ramones in mid 76 and jumped ship, having said that, i do love the Clash n Pistols, Thank you Forest Hills and those 4 stupid punks who changed it all.
I think 60s bands like The Velvet Underground and MC5 had a lot to do with it, too. I wasn't aware how many punks came from privileged backgrounds. I just saw a documentary on Paul Weller (The Jam, etc). He was a real working class hero. His dad was his manager. I respect that. Still love the others.
Pauleymack They didn't. What they did (as before them VU and MC5) was show to everyone that more or less talentless duds - or say: non-musicians - can become rock stars and have (and provide) loads of fun. In England, Punk was completely different, much more serious, much more dangerous, and way more interesting.
Allan Ostermann Buddy, you had IGGY POP!
Allan Ostermann Indeed. Suggesting the Velvets (and practitioner of classical avant-garde, John Cale in particular) were non-musicians is pretty ludicrous
I'm so glad the commercials were not edited out. those were enjoyable bits of culture.
The 80's commercials were just so magical
This entire video is absolutely packed with iconic performances. WOW
Boy, Iggy's been looking for his shirt for a long time now.
I didn't realize he ever had a shirt lol
lol
hahahaha, heavenly comment!
WOW! How great was it to see this. This is the music that made me who I am. Buzzcocks-XTC-Ian Dury-Magazine-Wreckless Eric- all of them!! My tears of joy are falling like the sweat from Nick Lowe's chin. This has been a real treat
För min syster på hennes 50 års dag! Grattis! Love foreever!
Wow, glad someone else watched and taped this. My introduction to punk. Loved, The Fall, Wreckless Eric and The Jam. The whole lot actually.
Oh good heavens! What a time for the tape to run out! My favourite song from my favourite band! This is such a good doco!
I wish that Poly Styrene and the X Ray Spex and The Slits got more exposure :D Poly Styrene is so amazing and X Ray Spex are my favorite band right now and The Slits are all about girl power :D
Cheers!
But any documentary on punk that doesn't start
with The Ramones and omits The Damned is woefully incomplete.
At least it starts out with " the story begins, for television, anyways..." which is true.
Both Joe Strummer and Captain Sensible admitted there probably wouldn't be an English punk scene without The Ramones.
I miss these days when bands were unique and pretty much anything goes.
Agreed
We watched a doc the other night about modern Irish bands….never mentioned SLF. WTF was that all about
nice live footage. that version of "passenger" is epic!
Saw this when it aired in 1986. I was 15 punk wasn't even nostalgic then.It was still kind of recent... It was made by Granada & mostly shot in Manchester's electric circus......Amazing footage. Loved it then & love it now aged 43....I have sinced filmed many of these bands.
I love this!!! It's a real blast from the past for me. Although I was never a punk as such, I always loved the music - especially the more 'creative' aspects of it. I'm still a massive fan of Tom Robinson and Elvis Costello, and regularly listen to them now. Thank you for uploading this gem!
You were there dont ya lover
Allison is my favorite love song of all time and this solo version is really top notch. Brings tears to my eyes just listening.
Costello is top notch.I still have the album "my aim is true"👍
A love song? I guess so.
Damn shame that tape failed. That last track was amazing. Thank you so much for posting this.
It was an absolute must I saw this having seen it on Channel 4 when it was originally broadcast. Thank you so much for posting 👍
Thank you so much for making this available, it's priceless.
We had to go to Greenwich Village to the Golden Disc and other import shops to find punk rock records. The other kids were stuck with Zep and Skynyrd and corporate rock and the girls listened to Poco and the hippies dug the Dead. I scribbled the lyrics to Clash songs on the chalkboard in high school and the teachers just laughed. My friends couldn't believe I didn't want to go with them to hang out and hear ELP.
the Pistols were so much better with Matlock on bass
1967PONTIACGTO he moves alot,and everyone moves alot,it was truly an energetic show,they really should have kept him
***** Sid definitely looked good up there, and the disaster that was his life kind of fit thematically...and he adds enormously to the legend, so yeah, you have to love Sid too ...but musically, Glen really makes the whole thing tight
+1967PONTIACGTO especially 'cause he was the main songwriter
+1967PONTIACGTO Sid looked good? He looked like what he was, a strung out heroin addict with zero musical talent.
+1967PONTIACGTO Sid looked good? He looked like what he was, a strung out heroin addict with zero musical talent.
Thankyou so much for uploading this! I taped this when it was on, on a V2000 cassette. All these years later I bought a V2000 player explicitly to retrieve this and put it on DVD, only to find the footage has deteriorated beyond belief! Awesome program with some superb iconic performances from The Jam, XTC, Blondie and the best version of Alison by Elvis Costello...!
great performance by the jam on here
I know you put this out over ten years ago, It just came out on my feed. I’m glad it did. Thanks for finding this and sharing it with everyone.
Great upload! Thanks for posting. By the way, I can't get over how many people don't know that Glen Matlock was the original bass player and main song writer of the Pistols. Sid couldn't play for toffee apples.
+aristotle358 He could`nt even play for heroin!
electricleg Chuckles! :-)
cheers
+aristotle358 for toffee apples, i gotta brush up on my british slang :)
+keith deringer I'm British and I've never said for toffee apples. People normally say for toffee.
yes I do so love my punk, what a fantastic time in our lives, plus a goldmine of the pioneers of punk.....loving all this.......ap
This is fantastic stuff. I just miss this kind of raw insight and integrity. Just makes me realise how truly owned and fucked we are today.
These are great but there's good stuff in every generation.
It got worst!
How in the hell did they miss The Damned???
Same way they missed the Ramones
Because these things are always biased and revisionist. There’s always some bozo who’s gonna tell everyone who he/she thinks “mattered” and who didn’t… often times by completely ignoring them as if they never even existed. I mean, never mind the fact that The Damned were *THEE* first UK punk band to release a single, the first to release a full length album, the first to play in America, the first to break up, and the first to reform.
Goddammit!!!!
Incredible Upload!!! Thanks so much!!! I learned A LOT and was enamored the whole way through......only to be shot even higher with that Siouxie clip at the end!!! Can't wait to show it to my Drag Queen Daughter, she'll flip her wig fer sure!!! The Jam, Buzzcocks and Iggy spots captured my attention 100%....and now I want to know more about XTC and Tom Robinson Band!!!!!
great early clip of XTC .saw them around this time ,first punk/new wave i saw ,apart from the support band ,the Now..............fekin brill times................
Well, I'm glad there's others out there that consider Ian Dury punk. He always was, and always will be, one of the great songwriters and vocalists of punk rock, up there with John Lydon and Jello Biafra.
He was more part of the "new wave" as the video heading indicates , just like E. Costello , who was hardly "punk".
Yeah, but new wave was considered part of punk in the beginning. It was called new wave so it could get places punk couldn't. For instance, Blondie are a new wave and pop rock band, but were part of the first wave of CBGB bands, playing with the Ramones and Dead Boys, and were welcomed in the community at the time. Same with Dury. It's one of those things of being punk without being punk rock, you know?
Yeah Dury was more part of new wave, he never gozzed on anyone or stuck a safety pin through his ball sack put it that way.
@@PAULLONDEN He was more pub rock than anything else, and he predated new wave. "New wave" like "punk" was a catch-all. A lot of stuff called punk and new wave was just power pop.
Doctor who called him punk! 😅
Top upload!! Love Tony Wilson/Factory - the Ian Dury prayer was great as well!
Also thank you for keeping the 80s adverts on! - memory lane!!! :D
I like when Jordan is getting interviewed there’s random DEVO in the background
The Sex Pistols were a phenomenon and GREAT! I continue to love Johnny Rotten. His band PIL - Public Image Limited is one of my fav bands. The album Blue Water is really good! I love the song in the vid, "What Do I Get" . The image and now shadow of Sid Vicious will always hang over that particular era of punk and it wz so outstanding. It gave people a new look, new style of dressing that male/females loved; hair, clothes, jewelry that are still incorporated into todays' street gear. In The Chelsea Hotel, Sid Vicious carved his name in the metal of the elevator emergency key pad. Iz still there and always will be.
I feel the same way, music was at a stalemate till the Pistol brought punk to mainstream. There were Punk bands around way before them but they brought it out of the darkness. The lyric " And Englands Dreaming" probably more poignant now with Brexit LOL
And then that look was forced upon people if they wanted to play punk, and what we got by the 80s was a fascist like state of what you can play, what you can listen to, and what you have to look like. The Dead Kennedys were right, punk wasn't dead, but it deserved to die at that point.
The RAMONES were around in the early 1970’s and Malcolm McClaren totally ripped off their style and brought it back to England 🏴 Everyone’s known that for awhile now. The Sex Pistols weren’t even supposed to be a band; they were hired to promote the shoppe off Carnaby Row SEX. The owner didn’t want Malcolm McLaren ever taking their models and they were getting tired of hanging around doing nothing ffsakes. Read a book called “ England!s Dreaming” and it tells ya everything about exactly what was happening with the royal family and how John Lydon felt about the monarchy and the royal families in general. That’s why he had a great idea 💡 when the boat loaded up with amplifiers took to the Thames River at the same time the Queen was having her Jubilee and the Sex Pistols invaded the yacht 🛥️. They were fined as well arrested and charged with interfering with a vessel carrying more tonnage than was allowed. A bullshit charge for certain! I’m not even getting into The Dammed being the very first group by the time the Pistols were known. Thanks for listening. Sincerely DJP Anal Cunt; Postmortem and Kilslug Sony; Earache 🇬🇧 Columbia and TAANG!! Records @ ALL RIGHTS RESERVED Boston Massachusetts Amerikkka quite obviously 🙄 Ok. The Dammed beat the Pistols by 1 year. Honest.
@@digger5521I agree with your assessment of Brexit. Sincerely DJP Anal Cunt; Postmortem and Kilslug Sony; Earache 🇬🇧 Columbia and TAANG!! Records @ ALL RIGHTS RESERVED Boston Massachusetts quite obviously 🙄 Amerikkka of course..
@@camerondodge2070Google US.GOV and see for yourself what’s going on right underneath your very own nose. Jello was actually on the money though! Sincerely, DJP Anal Cunt; Postmortem and Kilslug Sony; Earache 🇬🇧 Columbia and TAANG!! Records @ ALL RIGHTS RESERVED Boston Massachusetts Amerikkka quite obviously 🙄 I rest my case.
Goodness I haven't seen this since its original airing around 1987?? Thanks so much for posting & in great quality
Despite the punk movement, The Pistols and the Clash were real legends in the entire history of music over the ages
hell yeah THE RAMONES too that stuff is so accepted now it's almost considered classic rock. and yes i agree several punk bands over the years have been absolutely epic. DEAD KENNEDY'S, THE BUZZCOCKS, BAD RELIGION, etc. love it.
@@NoirL.A. NO THE IN BUZZCOCKS .. oh ... you're an American
@@BoudicaJ say what?
Stranglers are the real legends
@@NoirL.A.If it wasn’t for the Buzzcocks there’d never have been a Green Day. They ripped off their entire act and I like them. Therefore they are thieves not to mention the fake English voice of Billy Joe Armstrong!? Wtf really.,? The Buzzcocks; Stiff Little Fingers are the absolute best example of this. Listen to them and see for yourself if you don’t agree with millions of others. Bad Religion wasn’t even around in the early years of punk’s existence until they became hugely popular in the early 90’s obviously 🙄. Sincerely, DJP Anal Cunt; Postmortem and Kilslug Sony; Earache 🇬🇧 Columbia and TAANG!! Records @ ALL RIGHTS RESERVED Boston Massachusetts Amerikkka quite recently heading into oblivion 🔥
Great stuff! Thank you for this salvaging.
Total Time Capsule - adverts and all! Thank you!!
This is awesome! The music, commercials! Nice snapshot of early 80s England
I can remember seeing this clip of Iggy doing the passenger when I was at school and it just utterly changed my world. There was something out there beyond the mediocrity and spoon fed garbage you are told is 'normal' every day of your life and all you had to do was search it out. Just mindblowing.
I've seen him in action three times and he never lets the side down, always amazing.
Angela Payne no-no-no! only Elvis!
Слоны Идутнасевер
...and XTC
Wow! I saw this when it was broadcast! Have never forgotten it! Thanks for the upload.
Great to see this again, ta for the upload. :)
Such rare early footage. Thank you!
This is fantastic! Thanks for uploading it!
thankyou for the upload. brilliant 👏👏👏
Thanks so much for this!
what a huge load of memories there.siouxsie & the banshees for me.what a dream girl,my idol.
what a freakin awesome doco. Too bad it cut out in the middle of Magazine - Bazza Adamson is still one of me all time faves.
Thanks heaps doco uploader person!
been looking for this awesome .thank you.
Thanks for this!! Had it on VHS at the time. Exactly as I remember it. The John Cooper Clarke poem is brilliant. You'll never see a nipple in the Daily Express
This programme was broadcast in 1991 (I think). It also had footage of The Undertones and ended with Joy Division doing "Shadowplay" on Granada TV in 1978.
There may have been others...
Lived those times as a young lad in the 70s. I used to buy the NME when i was 10 and looking back i can't believe i read it.
Brilliant. Nice to see Jordan getting a few words in. Cool woman.
Thanks for posting D Bullock sure awakens the old memories of my days with a Mohican haircut & zips all over my clothing including my knickers exclusively for my then bf when we were up to all sorts in a bus shelter not actually waiting for a bus lol
Bit of a goer, were you Claire?
Watched this so many times, just brilliant. Stop gobbing at me!
Brilliant. I have a VHS version of this. I recorded it when the programme was first aired on TV - Complete with all the adverts of the time.
the great Ian Dury drumming with Wreckless Eric!
Thanks for uploading this!
The Sex Pistols actually had some very melodic music.
Because it was Pop music
Indeed! Not to everyone’s taste! But loads of bands came along after them! 🙂
i remember when guitars had leads plugged in
Thank you so much that was amazing.
Excellent! the adverts too!
I love the fact the original adverts are on this TV classic!
Best time to be a teenager in the UK :-)
Yeah and it has endured. The way the band members looked and dressed then Cloths /hairstyles etc looks modern . as Wilson said he belonged to a bygone (Hippee = long air/ flares etc. )
So glad I found this (without looking) Fate!
Ahhhh man, Buzzcocks........SOOOO good!!!!
Excellent stuff - guessing it's been mentioned in the comments but thanks so much for keeping the ads in!
What a great posting. Thanks.
I wanted to drop a quick comment on this and sat THANKS!! I have looked and searched for this little blast from the past, somewhere I have it on VHS myself but where is lost in the decades, I remember reliving the moments when this was aired and I did it again thanks to this vid, so cheers!!!!!
Awesome piece of history....THANKS!
The late 70s kicked off an amazing amount of creativity.
Great bands and a sense of excitement that hasn't come up since, and it doesn't seem likely that it ever will.
(But then before Punk there was Bohemian Rhapsody and Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, so a change probably seemed unlikely then).
What about the Grunge bands of the 90s then and the Nu Metal bands of the early 00s, like Slipknot? Plenty of exciting music has happened since the 70s, much more so actually....
@@1980extremeGnu metal is shit
@@1980extremeGEvery single band from The Accused to Nirvana to the NELVINS OBVIOUSLY 🙄 they are one of the greatest bands of all time and don’t forget some others like Jane’s Addiction and Voi Vod 🇨🇦 Sincerely DIY
@@deanpesaturo6401 The best Grunge band in my opinion, and my favourite, Is Alice in Chains.
...Righteous..!!! THANK YOU for sharing this..!!!
Thank you Mr bullock, love yer likkle symbol, made me feel young again, keep the faith as the northern soul people say, with love from an ole traveller now living on a narrowboat, once again, thank you! Xxx
Awesome upload, thanks! The Jam were excellent!
that was great! brings back lots of musical memories.
Great documentary! Thanks!
Elvis Costello 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Never mind the pistols or Iggy or xtc,, The Buzzcocks !! Brilliant thrash, lookxat him play that guitar.
Fast track, what do I get
It's a funny coincidence that those four guys all had an epileptic fit at the same time and the same place on the dance floor at 13.00 min. Nice!
Wow. Just wow. Thanks a lot. A lot!
OH BLISS!!!Remember the Bill Grundy interview when I was 6 on the telly,my mother and father were rolling on the floor in stitches.
Tom Robinson's Glad to be gay" a remarkable achievement for 1977, the fact that it has not lost any of it's power, and is still just as timely and relevant, is both sad and something of a miracle.
@George Otty On the one hand - I agree with you, on the other - I also don't agree with you.
I had this on VHS, in fact I still have, direct from Ch4. Loved it.
Thanks for this. Never saw the pistols saw the rest tho, even Jcc. I heard a band called Spot were playing local. I was skint, but a couple of mates went. The rest is history.
Motorcade is a most dangerous song… I mean, time and again I’ve been listening to it while driving and suddenly realised I had been pressing down on the gas pedal following the acceleration of the tune… way past the speed limit. Happily I never crashed like the tape did.
great set of videos but those old skool commercials were geeking me out haha!
so good to see this again, thank you for posting - I'm pretty sure I've got this on betamax somewhere, used to watch it to death so it may be even more damaged and invaluable, i don't remember there being much more at the end, but will see if i can dig out the tape :-)
I had this program on a VHS tape somewhere, but in truly atrocious quality. Thanks for posting.
Oh, I watched this on TV as a teenager...must have been 1985 or 86! Great post, thanks.
Iggy Pop stands out. The performance is not just a nostalgic curiosity.
+Mark Kelly. Yep. Gotta love that crazy intensity.
+Mark Kelly That first TV appearance by the sex pistols isn't really nostalgic curiousity either. Neither is Elvis Costello or The Buzzcocks!!
+Cheryl McLachlan-Spencer i know, but none of the ones i mentioned are nostalgic curiousities today, if you ask me....ok, iknow... you didnt! ;-)
Lars Melsted Thomsen
I'm guessing you're British? Didn't mean to offend. Iggy helped create the wake all the punks went riding on. MC5, Iggy, and Alice Cooper all seem more significant to me because they were doing stripped down, disrespectful, iconoclastic rock way before the others you mentioned.
+Carlo Dave No, i am danish ;-) And i agree, that it didnt all come out of nowhere. Don't forget The who, Velvet Underground, Bowie, Little Richard, Link Wray, jerry Lee and not least Chuck Berry, who all were significant inspirations and not least had their fair share of bad publicity due to their attitude, rawness and shock effect of their music!
I have this on a VHS somewhere. I think it was August 1986 when i recorded it. Not seen it for years so thanks for posting.
I was so lucky to se a lot of these when I was a yoof.
Love the fact that the adverts are included.
A second edition of this was broadcast in 1991 as More Punk Than New Wave.
1.02:54 - Mick Hucknall, bottom right, not moving as much as his neighbours. He is more visible in The Clash footage of the same night.
Thanks so much for this-priceless.Shame it breaks off when it does,halfway thru 'Motorcade',the best tune off one of the finest underground LPs ever made.What ever happened to rebellious youth eh
The best music program ever !! Great memorys
lots of interesting footage.never seen this before.wonderful
thank you!!
This was the song that made me a Costello fan, thanks for thant
What a fantastic compilation! Sorry, I'd add more, but I must go pogo.
When Iggy came on.. That's real special right fucking there. Even before he sang, that interview.. Man! I still Sit up and take note. Way above the rest.
Fabulous collection.