Drake vs. Kendrick: Crabs In A Hip-Hop Bucket
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Examining the recent feud between Kendrick and Drake. Understanding what it means for the state of the culture.
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That clip of dude saying " I really think you a bitch." To akedemiks is beautiful.
They have beef with everyone except the record labels
you don't bite the hand that feeds you
WHERES LUCIAN? - Kanye west
Kendrick is independent now, he’s got his own label not he’s under one.
Truest words 👆
He is not independent. He was signed to somebody who was signed to label... Top dog. He is now signed directly to label. Like how Weekend was supposed to be signed to drake... But he choose to be signed directly with label itself. Yes this way Kendrick gets paid more... But still he gotta give a lot to label. @@OGseoulite
"Hiphopcracy"
I mulled this as the title for a day or so and thought it was too much haha
Who is saying that Drake is the root of what's wrong with hip hop? He is just a symptom.
There's a lot posturing and attacking what is the "face" of the industry. The hate for Drake (especially from Hip-hop heads) feels like the spider-man meme
@@kazmaloop I disagree, most people has a problem with how he behaves because it is fake. They don't necessarily have a problem with the things that he does. If that was the case then most rappers would be guilty (besides the pdf files stuff of course). Everyone says the same thing, he just needs to be authentic. If he is not part of the Hip Hop culture then do not pretend to be, Not the good nor the bad of Hip hop.
He seems very much like a culture vulture and you see that with his Dancehall songs and his afro beat songs, The guy don't seem to have a genuine bone in his body and that robs people the wrong way and when people lived in the ghetto and seen and done things to survive for someone to come and trivialize their experience can be vexing. I don't think Kendrick has problem with Aubrey, he has a problem with Drake and what Drake thinks he represents.
@@lennyjoseph7382 Fair point, I just think that Drake comes from a long line of studio gangster, material rap that has been in hiphop since its inception. Except now he actually is affiliated. When Drake changes his sound its "culture vulture", when Beyonce does a country album, it's "Experimental". This is the hypocrisy I'm referring to.
@@lennyjoseph7382 people have had a problem with Drake from the start. They use to call him too soft. After all that and the betrayal of people he looks up to like Kanye who started beefing with him for no reason even Kanye admitted to it of course you see him change. To me it is all music and people should just stop looking up to people they don't know. Enjoy the music and move on
@@lennyjoseph7382the guy was trying out different genres with dancehall and Afro beats. I personally see nothing wrong with that. People should be allowed to do so. Maybe I see it differently
I appreciate this differing perspective. As a white woman looking into hip-hop/rap culture and a huge fan of individuals like Kendrick, it's difficult to know what affect you may be passively having on the artists you listen to and how you're contributing to the dilution of another culture. I've been watching these tracks as they drop, holding judgement off until we get any confirmation beyond vibes, but it is scary how the tensions are escalating comparable to Biggie/2Pac's beef. I hope, beyond this drama we get good music from both artists into the future as they move past this rap battle exchange (as much as I'm not vibing with Drake's shit nowadays.) I like Kendrick reflecting on his placement in the culture, and being real as he was on GKMC, TBAP, DAMN & Mr. Morale, but I'm unsure if I'm okay with how much rolling in the mud he's shown he's willing to partake in with other artists who cross him. It takes the wrong crazy MFer to find out where you live and John Lennon your ass. Great vid as always KazmaLoop!
Withholding judgement is commendable, especially given the state of public opinion nowadays. Appreciate the feedback!
Great insightful content, thanks for taking the time to dissect the smaller picture so we could be reminded of the bigger one 🙌🏾
Excellent commentary💯 regardless of all the hype around this beef, wild accusations are being thrown on both sides and no one really wins in the end except the record companies
I had this same sentiments when this beef was done. Glad you put it together so eloquently. I say Whatever person sit on top of the mountain of the rap game is still expected to dance how others wanted him to dance. They’ll always be subject to judgement of those who buy and the purse strings of those who Fund their life. Capitalism demands consumers meaning everything‘s for sale as long as no questions it enough to stop it.
THIS ALL OF THIS. I was interested in the back and forth between Drake and Kendick at first but then the moral grandstanding and horrible takes from the public as well as both rappers themselves seeming to not actually care about the very problematic subjects and accusations being brought up left such a bad taste in my mouth.
Im not the biggest drake fan but to deny his stake in the game is to be in denial of what in totality the rap game is. Its both consciousness as well as brainless spectacle. Whe also dont own the means of production so alot of artists and fans are lining the pockets of people who dont have the cultures best needs at heart. Drake may not be born of the culture but i think he exemplifies alot of its stereotypes that we as a collective dont do enough to reign in and changer for the better. We still glorify the bullshit and thats a huge problem
There's no end to the hypocrisy simply because we do not know who we truly are as human beings. It is easier to live and have experiences within these contexts, than to explore and find out who we are. Hip Hop is a culture. A context of life. In the same way someone has been in the mountains in Nepal, completely insulated from the chaos of life, and hoping to one day be a monk, someone is in Compton, where chaos reigns, hoping to get a gun and at least have a bit of control over what may happen to them. The monk is as much a hypocrite in my eyes as the gangster, but in his own context of life I can understand why he does what he does. I like how Jesus shows up in the essay a couple of times, because he is probably the only man that walked this earth without any kind of hypocrisy on his soul.
Wonderful video as always! Thank you
Modernity is against self-actualization, well put!
How is a monk a hypocrite?
@@joejett5084 for thinking they're above what they can't really escape
I was especially surprised when no one brought up Gods Plan. Glad you did.
Best take on this whole thing, subscribed.
I love this! Thank you so much for making a comprehensive video that delves into the underbelly of this rap beef. I am hoping as time continues more people especially sociologists will delve into how a lot of people discarded their previously held beliefs for surface level “cultural critique” and group think. Also if anyone can make a video discussing how bot activities and qanon conspiracy theories were egged on by the masses
Thanks for Sobering us up.
It’s a shame so many people are overlooking the lyrics, but there are also many people bringing these topics to discussion. This song might prove to be a turning point in discussing concerns over PDFs in a more public setting. I know these things were definitely never discussed as much before this song dropped.
I actually told my friends this might escalate to gun violence but they all dismissed my concerns saying both groups are too rich. Yeah, but their fans might be crazy enough to be influenced. Not Like Us can bring out some crazy fans.
On another note, Much better job on the pacing for this video. It kept my attention through the whole thing. One thing I’d recommend is choosing which audio fade you use when transitioning from narration to clips or vice versa. The first few clips to audio transition seemed to use the exponential fades. It would be better to do a hard cut off from the video clip into your narration because it helps keep the energy consistent. The pause between clip and narration can be a bit off putting.
The main goal that Kendrick had was to bring a light on the sickness in the industry. The pedo rings and predatory behavior.
I think that's a healthy benefit to the beef if any action actually occurs. The start to this beef was Kendrick claiming he was the king of the game which is ego not eco.
@@kazmaloop I think he had a plan all along to bait Drake into this. That's why Schoolboy Q reached out to J. Cole and told him to stay out of it. They all knew what Kendrick's plan was, and that things were gonna get potentially dangerous when attacking a giant like Drake + the music industry. Drake is merely a piece in a huge, dark puzzle of corrupt practices in the entertainment industry. I think Kendrick thought that this was the best way he could do it. Was there probably ego involved? Yeah I think so. But tbh nobody except Drake diehards believed that he was better than Kendrick, and yes, the masses wanted to be entertained. But once 6:16 in LA dropped, you see Kendrick speaking about the life he enjoys as a successful artist, and speaking to God because he fears the loss and dangers of poking the bear, but he feels it's his duty, and only he can do it, and then proceeds to bait Drake into dropping Family Matters....which then triggered Meet the Grahams. That's when it no longer became a battle, it was much more serious, and darker. This was unveiling a darkness that needed to be unveiled, and it was uncomfortable and unsettling for everyone. Once that track dropped I immediately feared for Kendrick's life, but I believe he knew what could potentially come from this once that track was released, which is why in 6:16 he says:
God, ah, my confession is yours, but
Who am I if I don't go to war?
There's opportunity when livin' with loss
I discover myself when I fall short
Idk man, I could be reaching, but I just feel in my spirit that this was never about who was the best to Kendrick, I feel like he truly believes he's fighting against evil by doing this.
My crackpot theory is that he was baiting Drake.
@@kazmaloop Kendrick claiming he's the greatest in the game isn't really comparable to ego vs eco. Hip Hop is a naturally competitive sport, meaning everyone is gunning to be the best rappper. All artists have some form of an ego but claiming your the best at your craft isn't anti-eco. You can claim your the best at something while also helping and showing compassion to others within the same field. Kendricks Control verse was to remind people about the competitive nature of hip-hop and how he was coming for the crown. Other rappers came out and said that they respected that.
From looking at the history of their beef it's clear Kendrick disliked Drake for reasons beyond competition and more of Drake's character. If it was from only his ego Kendrick would've dissed other rappers over the years rather than just throwing sumbliminals at drake. We can only speculate the root of Kendricks hatred for Drake but it seems Dot disliked Drake because of all the sneak dissing Drake did and then found out about the drake allegations which could be connected to a much bigger crime that is happening in the industry. Beefing with Drake could just be Kendrick trying to kill two birds with one stone.
Good point, claiming you're the best rapper is part of the job description. However, I don't think there is this altruistic purpose on Kendrick's part. Sport is sport but claiming someone abuses children is potentially character/career ruining. Only thing this shows is the need to win by any means necessary, and that is entirely ego-driven.
The moment that Drake used AI, the bubble popped for me. AI's use in the creative field has always been a mark to ask questions. Who wins when one the biggest stars willing uses AI to mimic one of the biggest legends at height of everyone's attention? This beef has spilled so much poison in the water. I honestly thought no one would question it, until it's already too late.
AI is a tool that was always going to be used just like how people use 808 instead of learning how to play the drum. This will free up and make music more decentralized than before taking away more power from the labels and giving it to the people
People have to be fair though. Kendrick has used AI of other celebrities as well as recently deceased ones who's families may have still been mourning as well as spliced audio of a deceased Pac to help build his public image.
With that in mind, it's 100% fair to use AI against that specific rapper in a rap battle. If they used it to help promote themselves and their music, it should be usable against them.
1. Killer title, love the multilayered referencing to both "Manufacturing Consent" and the way music that glorifies materialistic infighting and violence feeds itself with resulting escalations and repetitions of the cycle.
I think you've got some great points about the inherent hypocrisy of celebrating and consuming escalating verbal violence and the commercialization of "culture" while trying to simultaneously decry many of the outcomes of those same things. The use of "cultural _____ness" as a method of tribal inclusion or exclusion absolutely serves to create communities of readily-molded consumers who see some shared experience or trait as a core identity marker which they can hold onto in an otherwise confusingly blurry and mixed reality. The vultures who own labels and brands 100% take advantage of their power and leverage to plump up artists and feed on the incomes and goodwill of the artist's communities before picking the bones clean if they die.
That said, while I do deeply admire Chomsky and agree with your view that his perspective on media maps well onto the hip-hop/pop/rap media landscapes, I think that there's a core issue in that we lack good alternatives to current models of media creation and distribution-- not because it's impossible to have decentralized and decommercialized media (I grew up shaped by the early internet, believe me, I know that those things have existed and will always continue to exist), but because centralizing power and having specific objectives that require (and therefore allow for) trampling over opposition has almost universally won out over more "human" and reality-facing approaches to problems. It's a result of human nature as social animals who nevertheless feel fear of losing what they have and of not having enough, and who rationalize the emotions and actions against other humans that result from those things.
If I had to chart my personal views on business and government, I'd probably wind up solidly in the anarcho-socialist (as contradictory as some people say that is) box in terms of what I think should be allowed to be bought or sold and how much power a state should be allowed to wield. I value human life and experiences over any kind of promise a dehumanizing system can offer. But as much as I hate that it is this way, humans naturally tend towards tribalism and hierarchy to lend them a sense of security and safety, and this has always resulted in an 'empire' of some kind or another, which creates in-groups and out-groups which can be shuffled around, elevated, and demonized as needed. Creating simple dichotomies and missions for people to align with makes the illusion of consensus easier to create and maintain than trying to do so in an experientially and morally uncentered world, and creating hip-hop and hood culture as a rejection of white suburban conformity and wealth while minorities struggled to survive in the city is perfectly consistent with attempting to create a 'tribe' to shelter oneself from the bitter cruelty of an unstable and oppressed life.
All of this isn't to say that I don't think the major labels and corporate vultures shouldn't be struck down and taken to task for their exploitation and glorification of conflict, but that without clear alternatives to existing structures and trustable long-term solutions to underlying insecurities, the same natural human incentives towards accumulating power, wealth, and security can and will lead to a similar situation in the future. I think that while Kendrick certainly used and fed into the cultural gladitorial bloodbath here, he does represent a significantly healthier approach than Drake in his general rejection of fame and focus on artistry, as well in how his disses tended to focus more on behavior and how his opponent exploits and mistreats others rather than any essential or material component of the person. Kdot uses a comparison to John Stockton, perhaps mostly as a subtle reference to Drake being Karl Malone, but also showing that he has no issue with praising non-black athletes and artists; in his teardown of how he claims Drake used Atlanta artists, he focuses on how exploitative that action was and not whether or not Drake was allowed to try and take part in the culture. He was absolutely defensive and exclusionary in his claiming of the West Coast and Compton in particular, but even when directly calling Drake and his label pdfiles outright, he never did what Rick Ross did in calling Drake white or essentializing his experience as a mixed-race child as being inherently "not black enough". It's far from perfect, and I can absolutely see where you're coming from in being critical of the very nature of the beef, but I do think that the raw emotionality and artistic expression of kdot in Mr Morale and even in "meet the grahams" focusing on pain and the way people cause harm to others and the human experience is in and of itself much closer to what non-commercialized art should look like than a majority of artists out there today.
TL;DR - I agree we shouldn't necessarily celebrate rap beef like this and the systems it feeds, but think that those systems are far more entrenched in human society than could be fixed merely by tearing down the corrupt industry. Kendrick Lamar isn't above rightful criticism and neither are the reactors and talking heads feeding on the publicity of the event, but I do feel that much of the artistry and humility (maybe not always the right term, but you know what I mean-- lack of interest in fame, commercialism, etc.) that Kendrick has expressed in his work the last decade or so is well-worth elevating and it would be good if this led to more people seeking out his work and discussing the problems in society in a more sober and emotionally open way.
TL;DR TL;DR - Pokémon pfp loser writes an essay saying that this excellent piece of cultural and structural analysis is too mean to his fave artist 😢
I'm really enjoying the discussion in the comments, some refreshing takes. I appreciate the perspective here and I'm definitely not attacking Kendrick haha. We do need new systems but change starts with the individual etc etc. Thank you for watching and engaging with the video!
great video, at the end of the day people will still listen to drake, he's a pop artist, yeah he lost the battle but it didn't really affect him, in a month people will be singing for all the dogs. and it hurts me to agree with you because I enjoy kendrick lamar record, but I agree how distasteful it was for kendrick to release "they not llike us" and correlate sa with minors with a party beat.
yh that is pretty messed up and also making ped joke like "its probably a minor" on a serious topic like this is gross. And then going on to say he cares about stuff like this.
@@benymona-moke9419 maybe he never cared it was about winning. Don't look up to artist just enjoy the music
I was waiting to hear your perspective! Loving the videos!
Happy to hear it, much appreciated!
"Divide and conquer" is their motto, motif, and agenda
I love this as a black man that grew up in the suburbs. I remember when the black community had so much to say about the actions of Ja Morant trying to act like some sort of trench baby but, ultimately modern black culture doesn't accept anyone that doesn't entertain the zeitgeist. I'm not a Drake fan but, we're going to have to look in the mirror and see the monsters we create? We all know Drake was not accepted in the black community before the fame and uses his mob tie lady's man persona for short term actualization but, what's the motive here?
EXACTLY! This went from a rap beef to policing Blackness. The amount of Black people I’ve witnessed that share more similarities with Drake than Kendrick but are trying to ostracize him for said things has been one of the worst things about this beef. In due time I hope people actually realize criticizing one person while absolving the other is hypocrisy and bias
Im glad someone spoke on this I had the same thoughts and started to question if this was about being the best after Cole apologised because he was right it wasn't about out rapping each other it and who was the better spitter it was about who can disrespect each other as people and their body of work more. Now we have Kendrick and Drake having a allegation off and i doesn't even matter who is a better rapper its about what is worse a pedophile or a women beater
These are the factors of self-destruction that are prevalent within today's perception of compensation in Hip-Hop. You can never heal after having crossed this bridge. Predatory behaviour must be stomped out by all means and the fans need to start taking time yo address their position in Hip-Hop beyond the mindless baying for blood. Everyone wants to see someone take on damage behind the safety of their tik tok and keyboards. What is the ethos of Hip-Hop? #clickandscroll #scarecrowzw
This video should have just as many views as the “diss song” Dot and Drake have made
I mean i cant lie, i was also rooting for drake to lose, and was bumping to euphoria and not like us. But i also recently had this cognitive dissonance, when kendrick released meet the grahams, and i just didn’t know how to feel about it because there could potentially be actual victims involved because of OVO and so far, not a lot of proof has showed up. Its just something to be said about how women always end up being a punchline to these diss tracks (like kendrick’s wife and these victims) and ppl (including me) have become desensitised to the misogyny of it. Anyway, this was a great vid!!
Great video man, seriously great parallels, Reminded me of this funny key and peele skit " This DJ’s Shout-Outs Are Way Too Specific". Keep it up
an important subject within our own culture(s) we cant ignore and need to talk about. beautifully executed video. these things always loom in my mind. times are too divisive in this climate, after everything thats happened. it feels like a contradiction in our societies.
good work
Sorry for the long comment. I love this video and it's great. As someone who is an aspiring rapper, artist and, creative in general this beef for me was always interesting. Drake is a personal idol to me due to how he's dominated the Rap Game. His flows, his influence, his talent, his lyricism and, how he makes music has always fascinated me. He takes after Sade, Aaliyah, Biggie, MF Doom, Ye, Jay-Z, Phonte, The Isley Brothers, Wayne and, Vybz Kartel. He’s a combination of a lot of my favorite music to me since I was child. Kendrick is the same for me. I love his concepts, his vocal performances, his videos, his concerts and, how he evolves over the years with his music. Kendrick is a product of Pac, Dre, Cube, Eminem, Prodigy, Wayne, DMX and, many others. He's a product of a lot of amazing music. These two along with J. Cole, have been the soundtrack to my happiest days and, my saddest ones. The history of Drake & Kendrick have dated back to 2009 and ever since they've had a very strained and, interesting relationship. And I think their relationship and dynamic in Hip Hop should be one that’s studied years from now no matter the outcome of this beef. These two rappers have lived through Cube/Eazy-E, Biggie/Pac, Hova/Nas and, many other beefs that have become the pinnacle of Rap Beefs. They've studied those beefs before. And now they have become(in my eyes), the "Greatest" Rap Beef of all time. Two Hip Hop's golden children are now beefing to a measure that's pretty shocking. They're calling each other horrible things on wax. I think the animosity they’ve built is so sad in my eyes. Drake took Kendrick on tour, they've collaborated on records and, they've shouted each other out in interviews but now they're resorting to allegations that will absolutely stain each of their legacies. Drake has never been embraced to a level Kendrick has in people's eyes. He's been looked at as a white-boy who did acting and, then went into rapping and became famous. When that's not true, Drake’s lineage in Black Music is extremely inspiring. His family has ties to Jerry Lee Lewis, Sly and the Family Stone, and, Al Green. He became an actor to provide for his mother who had a illness. And then worked a lot to get recognized by Wayne. Kendrick on the other hand grew up in the environments that are extremely reflective of the roots of Hip Hop. Reagan era of Los Angeles, lived through the riots, California Love music video and, many other things. He worked his way to get recognized by Dr. Dre who gave him a platform. These two in my eyes represent the culture in a way that is truly unquantifiable in my eyes. They have too many ties in my eyes to deny that. Drake when he was a teenager wrote for Dr. Dre. Dr. Dre is one of Kendrick’s mentors. In Drake’s first year, people said “they wanted more 2PAC and less him”. When Kendrick was climbing up, they said he was “the 2PAC of today”. These two have sat at the opposite ends of Hip Hop music and yet relate to each other in numerous ways. They look at Drake as a pop-star and, they look at Kendrick as someone who’s true to the root of Hip Hop. Drake was the reason Kanye West and, Jay-Z made Watch The Throne. Kendrick was looked at as the “truth of Hip Hop” by Kanye West and, Jay-Z. Drake has always had to fight to prove himself with numerous amounts of beefs. Kendrick never experienced a beef before due to him already being embraced. Drake has always discussed not fitting in, while Kendrick has even said he didn’t feel comfortable in white spaces. And ever since, Control, they’ve been at odds. I think this beef is a result of these two budding heads. And it’s now gotten to a point where they’re accusing each other of heinous things. Kendrick is saying Drake is a sex trafficker and, a pedophile with no evidence. Drake is saying that Kendrick has physically hurt his women and, that Kendrick is the reason for his broken home. They are good reflection of how ego, pride and, most importantly the culture can affect you to a point of no return. After hearing, Family Matters and, Meet The Grahams, I wanted the beef to end but it hasn’t. And now, it’s looking like it’s going to continue to a point of no return. Kendrick instead of providing evidence of Drake being pedophile has decided to make a banger about it and people are eating it up. Drake has then doubled down and joked about Kendrick’s trauma with sexual assault. And now the shooting at Drake’s house shows how much bigger it’s gotten. I pray these two brothers heal.
Thanks for your detailed response, happy to see the video resonated with you. I agree, and am always wary when media promotes this negativity in the airwaves. The most watched interview on CZcams is Katt Williams airing out dirty laundry
Long comments are not bad but use paragraphs. When you change a topic then switch to a new paragraph. A paragraph is an idea or a transition in a point you’re trying to make.
congrats on making a Patreon! i’m very thankful for you being one of the few YT creators who bring forward the shadow of these topics.
Thank you, happy I can bring a different perspectives!
that was great way to frame whats happened the last few weeks. Is the problem with Drake that he doesn't rep the 'culture'? If so, whats authenitic about Rick ross who was a correctional officer or any of the rappers that pretend they moved serious weight in the streets? I agree, I dont think there is a saviour for the culture
"None are righteous" unfortunately. Drake might be the last Avatar the way this going though haha.
Only one and few Will speak,the others are sheeps and goats.
This was outstanding!!! I'm genuinely moved; I really hope this gets traction
Always appreciate the feedback, thank you!
@@kazmaloop bro the drake incident was Xo related, it was never going lead to someone’s death, just the end of their career
Which is a death in a way. Taking away someone's ability to provide for theirs and their community used to be akin to death in society. I don't think people have that same perspective with cancel culture so prevalent nowadays though.
Man then end of your videos always hit so hard. Keep up the fantastic work!
Thank you, appreciate it!
Not Like Us equates Kendrick telling all his fans and Drake haters, “Forget what you heard, just dance negro…and let the beat decide for you.” I personally knew Drake to be the avatar of what fans wanted and expected of Hip Hop and I’m in total agreement that if the entire culture was about the personification of conscious rap, then he would be rapping like Nas. The tracks Kendrick put out play towards a dynamic that no matter what, a lot of these artists will capitalize on people’s lack of intelligence and go for the shock factor and be in agreement towards a majority consensus because of our nature to fit in and repeat narratives that are essentially played out. There’s no objectivity and it’s because of fear of blind ridicule from other fans.
Oh this gonna be a banger
your videos are great, i will always click when you're on my homepage
u encapsulated a lot of my issues with the beef as a whole. although i was on drake's side most of the beef, after not like us i said the only way Drake would make an effective response to kendrick would mean he would have to say some things and mention names that would burn hip hop to the ground.
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This is so lucid .. thanks
Modern Socrates 🤲🏾🧙🏾♂️
1 minute ago? im excited for this one icl.
Brilliant work, my guy.
Thank you
this is hip-hop no one’s gotten hurt, they clearly kept it on wacks. this isn’t the 90s, it’s fine to battle it’s a sport, it happens bro
How did you not go with Hip-Hopcracy
Good analysis
In criticizing Bey's comments, you're obscuring his issues with the rap music industry he's stated for years and distance from it. Also, of note, Hip-Hop is more than just the rap music and fashion aesthetics sold. There are still its other elements of Dance, DJing, and Graffiti writing, and as it is a global culture, a lot of those elements and rapping as well stay more true to the origins of the intentions of the foundations of Hip-Hop Culture.
I ❤️love this video
MashaAllah interesting video
Real
Great video, as always!
I do find it weird that Kendrick is calling out drake for being a paedophile which if it is true great he should be exposed but why only call him out now when u could have called him out at any point. Why now when u have a supposed album coming out soon and as a diss record trying to take the number one and out of the 3 three spot it seems too optimistic. And it feels like he doesn't care about the allegation it is more about beating drake in a battle. Also if u where going to go at drake for this potential crimes he committed why also bring up other thing like being a culture vulture it doesn't make sense to me and hurts his point in my opinion. I would take him more serious if he had just called him out on twitter or something then at least it would be raising real awareness and not look like a attention grab. Last point people have been saying drake is weird and his behaviour around minors is weird but Kendrick only now calls him out when at any point he could have also what if drake didn't respond would Kendrick not have called him out.
To Kendrick it was about beating drake if he cared he would not have more with someone like Kodak. Winning was all that mattered. In fact if somehow drake recovers from this I do believe they can make up and work together again. That is how much I think he doesn't actually care.
@@jameslight4391I think that bridge has been burned now especially if it turns out that him being a pedo is wrong and after that now like us record which is a diss to anyone who is biracial black
Bruh, y'all don't know battleraps. Just watch battle rap videos, fliptops etc. it's all about destroying your enemies through rap battle. Kendrick doesn't want to raise any awareness, he just wanna destroy Drake.
I appreciate the call to attention of the profit-motive behind the beef - or for that matter, any artistry in general. But I feel like you could've taken that idea further when relating the influence of capital to creating art. Ie: what does it really mean for art to be "genuine"? Is such a thing even possible under capitalism? Is the distinction between high culture and low culture meaningful?
I like the video, but I'm curious to hear your insights on art under capitalism beyond the observation that music execs are gonna make money off of the beef either way.
Appreciate the feedback, this comment is on point, since this essay was done spur of the moment it doesn’t go too deep. I have a much more detailed essay on just that topic covering Yasiin Bey (Mos Def) that I’m researching and writing. Glad this one stoked those thoughts and stay tuned!
Man, I'm still mad you don't have more subscribers. This shit is poignant.
Appreciate this, thank you!
drake is so done man
Ehh, I think you present a false binary regarding this beef; either they don't compete and maintain peace or engage in beef and let it escalate to violence. It's entirely possible for a rap beef to get lyrically vicious while staying on wax (as evidenced by most rap beefs, particularly post-1997, not escalating to real-world violence). Pointing out enjoyment of violent media as an endorsement of real-world violence is a larger leap than you're making it out to be, otherwise we would be blaming violent video games for mass shootings. And yes, it is important to understand the ramifications of the media we promote and consume but overemphasising its role is, ironically, an obfuscation of the more influential socioeconomic factors.
The socioeconomic factors are the foundation of the argument actually, using Noam Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent" as the bedrock of the discussion (I start the video with Chomsky and sprinkle him throughout)
Agree with the overall message. but there is a slight disconnect b/c i do not consider drake a "black artist". This is not a black on black crime
After Macklemore's diss on both of them for forgetting the bigger picture about people dying in the middle east. I just don't care anymore about the petty beefs between them.
What are you going to do.? This the world we were given, blame God.!
We have to do better in my opinion
The fact that this CZcamsr is speaking on this issue is part of the problem- benefiting on black american culture....... hypocrisy
*Black American CZcamsr but go on
You assumed his ethnicity why? Because he don’t “sound black”? And you think he’s the problem? Things why we will forever remain a broken community.
i feel like you really want to include drake in the hip hop culture by changing what the hiphop cultre is but the problem is that he's actually just not. he's a culture vulture bcs the fans will accept everything from the hip hop culture (wrongs included) if it's real. drake is not real.
y'all shouldn't complain about those who are hating on him
How is Drake not hip hop? He’s doing a traditional hip form (mceeing). He incorporates hip hop beats, call backs, has assisted in expanding the genre all over the world and launch new artists. Also He’s a cultural music icon, he’s made music that critiques social trends and more digestible music as well. Is it bc he’s Canadian?