I find it so sad that people call themselves Spiderman fans and then don't follow his morals at all. He should be seen as an idol that you want to emulate😕.
The only thing I’m against is trying to not have Peter at all I mean if you want Miles as a character good I like him to but we can’t really get rid off Peter he’s the first Spider-Man
This is why I barely get involved in hardcore fandom conversations. I'm one of those Spidey fans who love the TASM films when everyone else hated them and I never understood why that was the case. Except the second one, I understood why fans aren't keen on that one.
Probably yeah, sometimes I think don't these people have something better to do or talk about. It's a video game and people are upset over face change or expression. Okay, if they disagree with change in face model but why they are targetting or harassing the actress.
How much i love the idea of the internet shutting off that's a terrible idea. Everything goes via the internet now. If the internet were to shut down planes would start crashing from the sky. Technology like TV's and fridges would start to stop. Planes wouldn't take off. Boats start going in the wrong directions. Basic apps like calling wouldn't work. Life support at hospitals wouldn't work. Police wouldn't be able to get reports about Criminals. Without the internet millions of people would die. Nearly everyone on a plane or in a hospital would die. Everyone on a boat would get stranded. You couldn't acces your money so crimes would start to be commited and police can't stop them cause they have no way to figure out were these crimes are taking place. And by the time the internet would go back online it's too late millions would've died even more would've been hurt or robbed or become criminals. Sadly we need the internet to survive in the society we created.
Same here bro like i question humanity because these people wanting to call everything woke over the stupidest things and don’t have a soul to enjoy things and wanna try and harass voice actors/ voice actress all because they don’t like something in that product
I swear if one more person says it’s because the game is woke and she doesn’t look as “beautiful” as comic MJ I am leaving the Spider-Man fan base and going all the way to DC
That’s what it looks like. When you dig you realize they probably replaced her temporarily because of her jaw surgery but on the surface yes it looks like she’s not allowed to be beautiful because of woke bullshit
I didn't even watch the video but for once I feel the fans are in the right Nobody asked for cringe ass self insert We just wanted a nice Mary Jane for once in Peter's life Who supported him and NOT blame him for being spider-man
@donaldduck then watch the video because maybe you’ll see the face model was literal reviving calls from SpiderMan fans saying the MJ looked disgusting in the game. I will admit she didn’t look as good as she did in the first game but A the face model for her had surgeries after being in an accident which was a factor in the face change, B if you’re going to judge a game for not having a good face then idk what to tell you and C at least she looks her age compared to a certain protagonist in the game cough cough Peter
@user-be5wb1hc1r A then maybe get a different face? Just a thought, but if peter got a face change she could have had one as well 2 - well less I don't need to be a graphics to believe the ps5 should have better facial designs then a up res psp 3 - not really at most she should have looked about the age her actress played in spider-man 3, not 40 Spider-man is older then miles yes but only by five maybe seven years max, he's just on outskirts of "not a kid"
"I just want them to piss these guys off even more" About time i heard someone say something like that. These people do not deserve sympathy, nor do they deserve to be listened to. Let them hate, let them yell, DO NOT give them what they want, because all they will do in return is keep hating Listen only to the ones that are genuinely trying to help you, not the ones trying to hurt you
@@BlankEmporium He is getting frustrated about all the stupid unnecessary hate. Btw it's You're*, which stands for 'you are', your is incorrect. How about you learn to type than state an opinion.
It’s people and behaviors like this that makes me straight up embarrassed that I’m a fan of these franchises. I still enjoy them, but I hate the fact that there are people like this. Not liking something is fine, but that gives no right to go out and harass the people who work on this stuff. For me personally, I had no problem with MJ’s face change. So, the fact that people get so upset over a video game character’s face, that’s more a them problem imo.
Exactly! I mean, people can be upset with the face change, I think that's fine, but to get so worked up like this and go out and do this kind of stuff is crossing the line and that's the point where they need mental help.
Yeah, the fact that they harassed her out of modelling is insane. I personally didn't like the face change just because MJ looks different, but it's not a big deal. I just don't like things changing when they're fine the way they are.
The thing is, she has an accident that resulted in her needing 17 surgeries for her jaw, so it’s not like they made her “ugly”, she literally had a big accident.
@@Chilled_Bluenah she’s not that bad but she’s just supposed to be a supermodel and is incredibly average “You just hit the jackpot tiger” yk? This Peter did not hit the jackpot he just.. hit
After all the confusion in the first game because of the Sam Raimi suiit, it doesn't surprise me The difference is that at the time people didn't have a bigger tendency to hate everything for just hate
I can only think of two times I sent some kind of message to someone famous or high up. One was a letter to an author of a book I read in class, and another was a letter to my state Senator giving my input on a bill being passed through Congress that I wanted approved. I never even considered being a dickhead in either of those letters, can’t imagine what makes someone think something like this is acceptable.
Yall remember the MHA fans send death threats to the creator of the story because Deku and bakugo didn't end together like do you seriously have nothing to do in your life people just need to go outside
I hate this fandom to a point, but i’ve just learned to ignore these weirdos who enjoy harassing people for literally no reason. They’re so unbelievably immature and don’t really… know respect. It’s sad.
They we're the same way to Peter's face change as well, To this day they still go crazy over the change I personally think it was a great change he looks more like Peter from the comics
No offense intended, in my humble opinion I think this version of MJ is cute, but everyone already thinks what they want and with respect to the harassment he is receiving, that is wrong, super wrong, I hope she can solve this harassment, I wish her the best
Good. You’re an optimist. I mean she’s not bad but lemme make my point again she’s supposed to be drop dead gorgeous. She is not ugly guys stop saying that but this model is no where close to gorgeous
@@STRICKLE maybe but the point still stands that this situation has blown out of proportion for no reason. Even if she isn't drop dead gorgeous in the game, it's still no reason to act that way, especially the actress who models the character.
I don’t actually give a fuck, just wanted to pop in and say that I don’t support the hate towards anybody, but peter and mj’s new models are absolutely downgrades.
Its funny. those are the type of poeple that can't handle poeple that think diffrently, its BS they like hanging out with like minded poeple but atleast respect the others way of thinking to
How much you wanna bet the response these kinds of fans gave is something like. ‘Well, well didn’t know she was going to quit. How can you blame this one us? We were only voicing our opinions.’ Because when your openly harassing someone on the internet, it’s very common to see them downplay the conversation to ‘it’s only our opinions’ when they can tell they’ve royally fucked up & are too egotistical to admit it.
It’s also way easier to cope with “I was just voicing my opinion” than “I was such an amoral and cruel jackass to someone I’ve never met that they had to flee the internet just to get away from people like me.”
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access even a hateful opinion is still an opinion and at the end of the day these things have to be said. trying to stop someone from saying what they want is going to look pretty bad as well.
@@mpo48 I get what you mean, but in this case. What exactly needed to be said. The face model looked ugly. Gee what great feedback. Your face looks bad & we’re never gonna let you forget it. It doesn’t solve anything aside from showing how bored a person is for making such a big deal out of a persons face. Remember, these ‘it’s only my opinion’ arguments only come up when someone’s opinion is called out for being wrong or completely unwarranted. Because the freedom to say whatever you want can be as can be vouched for all you want. But when a models face is called out for not looking 100% attractive. Never mind, we can criticise & stalk this person all we want with no remorse, until our feelings are hurt in which case we need to suddenly act as if we were just giving constructive criticism and not harassing someone over the way they look. Do you not the see the contradictions in that way of thinking?
Everybody complaining about a female character that doesn’t exist is fucking wild to me like this shit isn’t real if you don’t like it then go do some else😭
Yes the death threats are crazy but when you pay 70, 80, or 250 dollars for 19 inches of Venom with your own hard earned money you kind of expect the characters you know and love to be represented properly.
When I watched this I thought it was the same thing Laura Bailey went through in the past when she played as Abby but I see who your talking about now the situation with MJ its fucked up how people and sorry to say this but pathetic how toxic people act and ruin things in life for us like i cant even enjoy a game cause people being assholes make things worse on us in bullshit ways I hope she will be ok and continues doing what she does and ignore the haters sorry for the long typing but god this is why avoid fandoms and enjoy stuff on my own
The bullying and death threats are not acceptable It wasn’t her choice to replace her own face that was insomniac’s. And even so like you said it’s not that big a deal. Yes MJ is supposed to be a model and not a 35 year old man but cmon man death threats?! And to the wrong person at that
This is unacceptable to hearing this even though I didn’t like the new face of MJ but I don’t go telling the actress that I don’t like her face in the game. I honestly wish I help Stephanie Tyler Jones in this situation because I’m the guy that loves to help people just like Spider-Man. Like the fans really don’t get it that it’s just her face. And look no cap when I say this but Stephanie Tyler Jones is pretty because she looks like MJ no cap. And the reason why her face was different because she got into an accident and she went through 17 plastic surgeries to fix her face. Why just why the fans keep harassing people that is not their fault of their look or their performance. If I were me in this situation yeah I rather go talk to my friends walking outside listening to music playing video games on PS5 and making videos for my channel. At this point fans needs to realize that just because they don’t love the face of MJ they don’t go harass on the actress because again it was not Stephanie Taylor Jones fault that her face went through a 17 plastic surgery. I hope everyone in the Internet learned this a viable lesson is this just because they don’t love things it doesn’t mean that they don’t go harass or threaten the people work on movies comic books show or video game. Thank you guys for reading from -The Ultimate SpideyFanBoy
I’m a fan of Marvel, Mortal Kombat Street. Fighter devil may cry resident evil, the boys other franchises, but there are problems including the toxic fandom and the haters grifter controversial people committing horrendous acts. Even the UN considered a war crime. It’s got to be a new legislation in place.
To be completely honest, it never occurred to me that there was any issue with the MJ model until I saw this video, and I've watched plenty of the cutscenes. I think that's such a stupid and shallow thing for people to be getting upset over. Is that why people are calling SM2 "woke" now? I don't even know, that's how far I stay away from fandom nontroversies.
This is a major reason why I never state my opinion on certain characters shows movies games manga and everything else on the internet because people like them Are gonna lose their minds if i say something they don't like. And for myself im a huge spiderman Marvel Dragon ball z Star wars Demon slayer and Jjk fan But I mostly dont like being accompanied with the DBZ Fandom because I think its one of the most toxic communities and Fandom ever. Only because of certain things Like power scaling Or things you've stated in your video i brought up dbz only because I feel like these 2 Fandoms are terrible
The amount of mental gymnastics someone must do to be mad about literally anything. How someone gets offended over a goddamn face model is absolutely beyond me. Like, do you wanna be miserable or smthn? Is your life so overly cheerful that you have to find the smallest excuse just so you can have something to complain about?
I don't like the new look of MJ . One alot of games companies in the west doing . But sending her creepy message to social media and her husband's work place . What is wrong with you.
Everytime i think that humans could not stoop any lower these people prove me wrong. Makes me wonder if there is even a limit to how low people can really fall.
@@l8studios_no unfortunately it’s not Stephanie Tyler Jones, the only bits are her are the nose, eyes and mouth. Everything else is literally one of the intern writers at Insomniac, the face shape, the iconic Jawline and even the hair (except it’s not red). The problem isn’t that she’s not hot but that it’s a narcissistic self insert by another woman who doesn’t look like Stephanie. That’s what upsets me with Mj’s new model and the fact that they lied publicly just to blow smoke back up their arse and the expect sheep’s to believe everything which unfortunately did work since everyone says shit about the criticisms of the new face. I feel sad for Stephanie and the harassment she got is absolutely atrocious but the reason guys like me are angry is not because she’s not hot or because it’s Stephanie’s fault it’s just that Mj is clearly not modelled after the hired actress but by another woman who just happens to be a writer.
I normally enjoy the game for what it is But bullying a person because they do a model on their favorite game is kinda dumb It’s like these fans can change their proportions of their face into a super model in 1 second It’s like they lose touch with life so much their only thing to do to pump dopamine into their head is by bullying people online It’s such a disgrace that there are people like this in modern life
I remember in an old spider man game, peters dad says something that sorta stuck with me. “You’re going to find people in this world, and you will ask yourself, why is this person like this?” He goes on about how he’s surrounded by people like that every day, People who think they’re better than what they are. He sort of implies that you can’t change people like that, even if their mentality is completely mind numbingly insane. It sucks that people like this exist, but there’s just nothing that can be done about it.
I feel so bad for her. She really didn't deserve all this. I do hope this same situation doesn't happen to the face models who worked on Star Wars Outlaws. No actor deserves to have their self esteem and mental health affected by random hateful scumbags on the internet.
I remember seeing the face for the model back when the trailer released. I can admit, it was kinda off-putting seeing her face from SM1 switch to what we see now. But, I eventually got over it. Then, I watched some gameplay of SM2 via CZcams, and I gotta say I've warmed up to the look. Sure, it's new- but, eventually it'll become the norm. Those people are friggin' disgusting though... To think something so simple as the looks of a 3D Model caused these select individuals go THAT far.
No one is happy with what they have these days unfortunately they always try and pick on something to complain about for the sake of it like how when the demo of the game was released people were complaining about how the water looked. The FUCKING WATER!!! why does the water matter so much it’s not as if Spidey’s gonna have an adventure with Namor anytime soon. Don’t even get me started on how they were also complaining about how Peter was still in NYC like bruh where tf is he supposed to go space these people r just something else and they make my blood boil when they make statements like this
its truly disgusting how these slimeballs can get aggressive if they don't do things their way...this is why i dont like to be apart of fandoms because they cause so much unnecessary drama
These situations are practically racism and those people need to look at the selves in the mirror and ask 'who the hell am I' and Steph probably liked being MJ but then lost interest due to harassment
Damn I forgot the Godzilla fans also as well before I was in TikTok I already saw some G fans are being complain about Godzilla x Kong, Godzilla is being pink
I’m sorry I simply don’t care, I understand and know that this is a fictional character and there’s no reason to hate yeah but….THE LITERAL director said he purposely made her ugly and broken in the game on purpose, on top of that come on now guys the pandering that insomniac has been doing is crazy, they gave miles a black panther costume FOR WHAT?! And why didn’t Peter get one ? A lot of woke lgbtq propaganda to, there’s just a lot we can’t just gloss over
I feel like you're unnecessarily elevating the Black Panther suit situation to something it's not. The Black Panther suit was a tribute to Chadwick Boseman so I'm not surprised they gave it to Miles. But also, it's just suits, there's nothing more, nothing less. And stuff for wokeness, there are 3 things I heard people talk about which is Black Cat, the flags and the side mission. Black Cat said she had a girlfriend and that was it. She said, "My girlfriend's in Paris." and nothing more, nothing less. It's more so a reason as to why she's doing what she's doing. It wasn't shoved down our throats or anything because that wasn't the main focus. It was quickly glossed over because that isn't the important detail. The only LGTBQ scene that people made a big deal about was the side mission with the male couple and yeah, I can understand that, but other than that, nobody talked about anything else. And yeah, there are other stuff like the Pride Flags and BLM sign but they're not forcing you to look at them. You notice they're in the game and that's it, you move on. And also, I wanna say that New York has WAY more LGTBQ and woke propaganda showing up and Spider-Man 2 showed a part of that and you don't even see the flags or BLM sign unless you're actively looking for it which is honestly on you. And also, where does the director for Spider-Man 2 say he purposely made her "ugly"? I searched around and the only time I've seen the director talk was on the WIRED channel or Gamecast. If you have evidence of that then please lemme know. Again, if you have issues with that in the game, it's fine. If you don't like the face, there's no issue, it's your opinion. I hope I don't sound like an as*hole rn 😂
@@Chilled_Blue that’s my point regard less if it’s minor stuff or not it’s still stuff I feel should be left out of game we’re meant to enjoy I don’t wanna think about social agendas when I’m playing spider man, I simply just want to enjoy the game for the story, again why did they give MILES the suit instead of Peter, I’m black and I have a white brother and he mentioned it before I did, if it’s a tribute why not give it to Peter to ? It isn’t a stretch, in the miles morales game the put a BLM mural, these aren’t coincidences
@@Chilled_Blue my point being no they aren’t forcing us to look but it’s the pandering that’s aggravating they don’t even care about those social injustices topics it’s only to appeal to all groups
Bro, I think you’re reading way too much into this shit but ok. Also, you pretty much made shit up about what the director said unless you have proof of this statement.
I totally agree we shouldn't go after The actress if you want to be mad get mad at the writer made MJ a self insert for herself which kinda ruined MJ I am one of the people who I'm not going to lie I almost hate everything about this game and everything around it the fans both sides suck and the story was soo mid and the combat is Such a step down from the previous 2 games for both Spider-Man.its not.even funny people let's stop fighting about this game and all enjoy the new ultimate run of spider man😊
I will really miss the MJ we had in Spiderman 2 and I think she did amazing with the role. She should not be harassed like this and people should leave her and other people in video game acting roles alone
I don't mean to excuse any disturbing stalkery behaviour, but the MJ face alteration does in fact affect the story in so far as it hurts the integrity of the character. She doesn't look like the same person, and it's just plain weird. I don't mind that MJ doesn't look like a supermodel, but the difference to the original appearance is very uncanny valley. First the Peter face change and now this, I'm honestly gonna sit the 3rd game out cause looking at these characters is just off-putting now. Nothing justifies leaving creepy voicemails, but at the same time, it's also true that Insomniac has messed up.
These people deserve to get mailed to them a copy of Baldur's Gate 3. Which might not be much of a punishment because I hear it's a really good game, but still... a reminder that they won't always get what they want.
It’s not about getting what you want as much as it is the game creators taking already created characters and making those characters whatever they want….you need to send that message to the game designers ….not the customers. It’s just writers inserting themselves into everything.
Those idiots remind me how some of these Resident Evil " fans " were harassing the Ada voice actor on Resident Evil 4 remake where babygirl had to delete every social media she had because of morons who have no life were harassing her and giving her death threats just because they didn't like her voice for Ada which is pathetic and i feel embarrassed for being a Resident Evil fan. Now the model for MJ will no longer be doing any of that stuff because of those so called Spiderman " fans " who just love to ruin everything with their nonsense. Even the game director of Tekken was getting death threats by some idiot on Twitter saying that he's gonna go to the devs studio and shoot everyone just because Eddy Gordo wasn't on the roster or something. This is why i hate certain fanbases because they get too crazy with stuff like this. Hell, even the Suicide Squad game by Rocksteady is getting hated on all because it wasn't the game they wanted or something and i hope there isn't anyone threatening the developers but man that dogshit behavior needs to stop, i bet they all adults and act like children giving tantrums.
If you see the real Stephanie Jones... And you accept what insomniac did to her... You should find a problem with that .. they butchered her... She's gorgeous and they put out what they put out and it's just supposed to be okay? Lol what some fans said to her are wrong but so many who have a problem with it, have a problem with how shitty of a job insomniac did.
Dude what happened to being Spider-Man fan just cuz we adored the character and wanted to see more of it and nothing else? This is disgusting, am huge Spidey fan and if there’s something I don’t like I will just say I don’t like it, plain and simple
to be honest I do not get it really we never had a problem with the actress the actress is a beautiful woman Stephanie Tyler Jones is A beautiful woman but for some reason the game made her look ugly and it is sad because she is a beautiful lady just like the actress for Tanya beautiful women but the game did her unjustly
Its perthetic and childish if you dont like something sending harassment is just perthetic they wouldn't do it in real life because they're cowards or because they cant get out of their chair
I'm confused here. Where did she ever say that the people harassing her hated her face in game? All she said was that they were Spider-Man fans. It seems like you're taking a leap here.
You're right, she didn't say it, however the fact that Spider-Man fans hate MJ in the games and the fact she's quitting and mentioned that along with these fans "stalking" her, It's not crazy to assume that these "fans" did this because of MJ and her face was discussed a whole lot and was getting a lot of hate so it's not crazy to assume it's one of those reasons. If not, then the only other reason is that they're just creepily obsessed with her. With that reason plus leaving many messages and voicemails and who knows what else in her work place to a point where she considers it stalking is a form of harassment. She literally said she felt unsafe in her own workplace so yeah, that says a lot as well. People could've done this for one of these reasons or both. And also she called them Spider-Man Fans cause she wanted to use the nicest term as possible.
They should admit they don’t talk to real women . Cause real women look like that . There too used to these twitch girls that’s out of there league. They really need to touch grass and talk to real women .
hate how some people will be like oh u don’t like andrew garfield spider man he’s the best what do u mean like i can’t have my own opinion like my favorite will always be tobey yk but i don’t mind other people like the other spider men it sucks or with the transformers fandom oh u like the bay movies more than g1 omg ur opinion is so wrong i just hate fandoms and i totally get what u mean
The model isn’t supposed to be there to look “hot” or their for those idiots pleasure, like how pathetic can you be? You can dislike the face if you want that’s fine, but saying “she’s not hot” is pathetic. I prefer the original face model, but I ain’t gonna be a crybaby about it.
I find it so sad that people call themselves Spiderman fans and then don't follow his morals at all. He should be seen as an idol that you want to emulate😕.
I agree
The only thing I’m against is trying to not have Peter at all I mean if you want Miles as a character good I like him to but we can’t really get rid off Peter he’s the first Spider-Man
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@@zarif_chow bro I’ve seen almost everything and never heard of a “Johnny storm”
my uncle ben hasn’t died so…
This is why I barely get involved in hardcore fandom conversations. I'm one of those Spidey fans who love the TASM films when everyone else hated them and I never understood why that was the case.
Except the second one, I understood why fans aren't keen on that one.
The internet needs to shut down for a month. All of these terminally online people will crumble and I'd find that funny
Probably yeah, sometimes I think don't these people have something better to do or talk about.
It's a video game and people are upset over face change or expression.
Okay, if they disagree with change in face model but why they are targetting or harassing the actress.
Your ass would be the first to complain if that happens so get over yourself.
At best turn off twitter and inner peace will be achieved
How much i love the idea of the internet shutting off that's a terrible idea. Everything goes via the internet now. If the internet were to shut down planes would start crashing from the sky. Technology like TV's and fridges would start to stop. Planes wouldn't take off. Boats start going in the wrong directions. Basic apps like calling wouldn't work. Life support at hospitals wouldn't work. Police wouldn't be able to get reports about Criminals. Without the internet millions of people would die. Nearly everyone on a plane or in a hospital would die. Everyone on a boat would get stranded. You couldn't acces your money so crimes would start to be commited and police can't stop them cause they have no way to figure out were these crimes are taking place. And by the time the internet would go back online it's too late millions would've died even more would've been hurt or robbed or become criminals. Sadly we need the internet to survive in the society we created.
@@MasterTemplar781 Alright get rid of social media for a bit then
The kind of behavior from these fanbases hurts my faith in humanity
Same here bro like i question humanity because these people wanting to call everything woke over the stupidest things and don’t have a soul to enjoy things and wanna try and harass voice actors/ voice actress all because they don’t like something in that product
I swear if one more person says it’s because the game is woke and she doesn’t look as “beautiful” as comic MJ I am leaving the Spider-Man fan base and going all the way to DC
That’s what it looks like. When you dig you realize they probably replaced her temporarily because of her jaw surgery but on the surface yes it looks like she’s not allowed to be beautiful because of woke bullshit
Do it
I didn't even watch the video but for once I feel the fans are in the right
Nobody asked for cringe ass self insert
We just wanted a nice Mary Jane for once in Peter's life
Who supported him and NOT blame him for being spider-man
@donaldduck then watch the video because maybe you’ll see the face model was literal reviving calls from SpiderMan fans saying the MJ looked disgusting in the game.
I will admit she didn’t look as good as she did in the first game but A the face model for her had surgeries after being in an accident which was a factor in the face change, B if you’re going to judge a game for not having a good face then idk what to tell you and C at least she looks her age compared to a certain protagonist in the game cough cough Peter
@user-be5wb1hc1r A then maybe get a different face? Just a thought, but if peter got a face change she could have had one as well
2 - well less I don't need to be a graphics to believe the ps5 should have better facial designs then a up res psp
3 - not really at most she should have looked about the age her actress played in spider-man 3, not 40
Spider-man is older then miles yes but only by five maybe seven years max, he's just on outskirts of "not a kid"
"I just want them to piss these guys off even more"
About time i heard someone say something like that. These people do not deserve sympathy, nor do they deserve to be listened to. Let them hate, let them yell, DO NOT give them what they want, because all they will do in return is keep hating
Listen only to the ones that are genuinely trying to help you, not the ones trying to hurt you
Are you sure your not the hateful one? This sounds extremely hateful.
@@BlankEmporium Lemme guess you’re one of the people the guy in the video is talking about
@@BlankEmporium He is getting frustrated about all the stupid unnecessary hate. Btw it's You're*, which stands for 'you are', your is incorrect. How about you learn to type than state an opinion.
I think this guy barely even knows what’s going on than actually being a part of this
Spider-Man would be disappointed
If Spider-Man was real he would be disappointed in his own “fans”
He would despise them behind all belief
He boutta disable his social media account that was from the 1st game😂
It’s people and behaviors like this that makes me straight up embarrassed that I’m a fan of these franchises. I still enjoy them, but I hate the fact that there are people like this. Not liking something is fine, but that gives no right to go out and harass the people who work on this stuff.
For me personally, I had no problem with MJ’s face change. So, the fact that people get so upset over a video game character’s face, that’s more a them problem imo.
Exactly! I mean, people can be upset with the face change, I think that's fine, but to get so worked up like this and go out and do this kind of stuff is crossing the line and that's the point where they need mental help.
Yeah, the fact that they harassed her out of modelling is insane. I personally didn't like the face change just because MJ looks different, but it's not a big deal. I just don't like things changing when they're fine the way they are.
Spider-Man, Star Wars and Doctor Who are the worst fandoms to be in for this kind of behaviour it’s embarrassing
Agreed. I would also throw anime fans in there to since they can do some seriously terrible stuff
@@Chilled_Blue What is about these stories that we love that bring out such nasty behavior from these people
@@Animefan-uk8pw idk man, I asked the same thing 🤣
@fasarProud I think Weeaboos is more of a better term
Embarrassing for who? They don’t represent me
The thing is, she has an accident that resulted in her needing 17 surgeries for her jaw, so it’s not like they made her “ugly”, she literally had a big accident.
Yeah but also, she's not even that bad. Like people are treating this like she's actually ugly and is the most hideous thing in the world
She never looked like SM2. I think they replaced her face because of the surgeries
@@Chilled_Bluenah she’s not that bad but she’s just supposed to be a supermodel and is incredibly average
“You just hit the jackpot tiger” yk? This Peter did not hit the jackpot he just.. hit
@@Chilled_Blue yeah she’s fine looking in the game, she ain’t ugly, that’s why I don’t understand the brainrot that comes from the Spider-Man “fans”.
@@STRICKLE Was she ever a supermodel in this timeline?
After all the confusion in the first game because of the Sam Raimi suiit, it doesn't surprise me
The difference is that at the time people didn't have a bigger tendency to hate everything for just hate
I feel ashamed to be a Spiderman fan
Nah you shouldn't. There's nothing wrong with being a Spider-man fan as long as you're not like THOSE people.
Totally agree our world is sad place
@HioSerYou're an ant compared to the world. You're too small to change it
I can only think of two times I sent some kind of message to someone famous or high up. One was a letter to an author of a book I read in class, and another was a letter to my state Senator giving my input on a bill being passed through Congress that I wanted approved. I never even considered being a dickhead in either of those letters, can’t imagine what makes someone think something like this is acceptable.
Yall remember the MHA fans send death threats to the creator of the story because Deku and bakugo didn't end together like do you seriously have nothing to do in your life people just need to go outside
Gacha life fans, MHA fans, SMG4 fans, people are weird 😭
I’m happy I found someone who agrees with me that hating a fictional character is a waste of time
I'm a huge spiderman fan since I was like 3, and I love the design of mj and the sp2 game is awesome
The face remodel happened because the face model got into a car accident and had to get 17 surgeries on her jaw
Its sad to think that these "fans" made an amazing actress quit a job that she was great at.
I hate this fandom to a point, but i’ve just learned to ignore these weirdos who enjoy harassing people for literally no reason. They’re so unbelievably immature and don’t really… know respect. It’s sad.
They we're the same way to Peter's face change as well, To this day they still go crazy over the change I personally think it was a great change he looks more like Peter from the comics
No offense intended, in my humble opinion I think this version of MJ is cute, but everyone already thinks what they want and with respect to the harassment he is receiving, that is wrong, super wrong, I hope she can solve this harassment, I wish her the best
I absolutely despise Insomniac Spider-Man 2 [even though I loved the first game], but I agree with you. These losers are pathetic.
I actually like the new MJ
Same
Good. You’re an optimist. I mean she’s not bad but lemme make my point again she’s supposed to be drop dead gorgeous. She is not ugly guys stop saying that but this model is no where close to gorgeous
@@STRICKLE maybe but the point still stands that this situation has blown out of proportion for no reason. Even if she isn't drop dead gorgeous in the game, it's still no reason to act that way, especially the actress who models the character.
@@STRICKLEIf this version of the character was a model like she is in the comics I would agree. But this version is just a reporter.
I think MJ's design is pretty bad, but the fact she was harassed over this is awful.
it is rarely a good time in spiderman land
I don’t actually give a fuck, just wanted to pop in and say that I don’t support the hate towards anybody, but peter and mj’s new models are absolutely downgrades.
That they are
Its funny. those are the type of poeple that can't handle poeple that think diffrently, its BS they like hanging out with like minded poeple but atleast respect the others way of thinking to
How much you wanna bet the response these kinds of fans gave is something like. ‘Well, well didn’t know she was going to quit. How can you blame this one us? We were only voicing our opinions.’ Because when your openly harassing someone on the internet, it’s very common to see them downplay the conversation to ‘it’s only our opinions’ when they can tell they’ve royally fucked up & are too egotistical to admit it.
It’s also way easier to cope with “I was just voicing my opinion” than “I was such an amoral and cruel jackass to someone I’ve never met that they had to flee the internet just to get away from people like me.”
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access even a hateful opinion is still an opinion and at the end of the day these things have to be said. trying to stop someone from saying what they want is going to look pretty bad as well.
@@mpo48 I get what you mean, but in this case. What exactly needed to be said. The face model looked ugly. Gee what great feedback. Your face looks bad & we’re never gonna let you forget it. It doesn’t solve anything aside from showing how bored a person is for making such a big deal out of a persons face. Remember, these ‘it’s only my opinion’ arguments only come up when someone’s opinion is called out for being wrong or completely unwarranted. Because the freedom to say whatever you want can be as can be vouched for all you want. But when a models face is called out for not looking 100% attractive. Never mind, we can criticise & stalk this person all we want with no remorse, until our feelings are hurt in which case we need to suddenly act as if we were just giving constructive criticism and not harassing someone over the way they look. Do you not the see the contradictions in that way of thinking?
Everybody complaining about a female character that doesn’t exist is fucking wild to me like this shit isn’t real if you don’t like it then go do some else😭
Exactly 🤣
Yes the death threats are crazy but when you pay 70, 80, or 250 dollars for 19 inches of Venom with your own hard earned money you kind of expect the characters you know and love to be represented properly.
Ah problem. The face of that character is supposed to be of the real lady you know Stephanie?
When I watched this I thought it was the same thing Laura Bailey went through in the past when she played as Abby but I see who your talking about now the situation with MJ its fucked up how people and sorry to say this but pathetic how toxic people act and ruin things in life for us like i cant even enjoy a game cause people being assholes make things worse on us in bullshit ways I hope she will be ok and continues doing what she does and ignore the haters sorry for the long typing but god this is why avoid fandoms and enjoy stuff on my own
I dont like mjs look, but damn some people need to touch some grass
The bullying and death threats are not acceptable
It wasn’t her choice to replace her own face that was insomniac’s. And even so like you said it’s not that big a deal. Yes MJ is supposed to be a model and not a 35 year old man but cmon man death threats?! And to the wrong person at that
And she wasn’t even a model in this version and the actress had broken her jaw and had to have 17 surgeries
This is unacceptable to hearing this even though I didn’t like the new face of MJ but I don’t go telling the actress that I don’t like her face in the game. I honestly wish I help Stephanie Tyler Jones in this situation because I’m the guy that loves to help people just like Spider-Man. Like the fans really don’t get it that it’s just her face. And look no cap when I say this but Stephanie Tyler Jones is pretty because she looks like MJ no cap. And the reason why her face was different because she got into an accident and she went through 17 plastic surgeries to fix her face. Why just why the fans keep harassing people that is not their fault of their look or their performance. If I were me in this situation yeah I rather go talk to my friends walking outside listening to music playing video games on PS5 and making videos for my channel. At this point fans needs to realize that just because they don’t love the face of MJ they don’t go harass on the actress because again it was not Stephanie Taylor Jones fault that her face went through a 17 plastic surgery. I hope everyone in the Internet learned this a viable lesson is this just because they don’t love things it doesn’t mean that they don’t go harass or threaten the people work on movies comic books show or video game. Thank you guys for reading from
-The Ultimate SpideyFanBoy
I’m a fan of Marvel, Mortal Kombat Street. Fighter devil may cry resident evil, the boys other franchises, but there are problems including the toxic fandom and the haters grifter controversial people committing horrendous acts. Even the UN considered a war crime. It’s got to be a new legislation in place.
To be completely honest, it never occurred to me that there was any issue with the MJ model until I saw this video, and I've watched plenty of the cutscenes. I think that's such a stupid and shallow thing for people to be getting upset over. Is that why people are calling SM2 "woke" now? I don't even know, that's how far I stay away from fandom nontroversies.
Lets face it every fandoms suck
This is a major reason why I never state my opinion on certain characters shows movies games manga and everything else on the internet because people like them Are gonna lose their minds if i say something they don't like. And for myself im a huge spiderman Marvel Dragon ball z Star wars Demon slayer and Jjk fan But I mostly dont like being accompanied with the DBZ Fandom because I think its one of the most toxic communities and Fandom ever. Only because of certain things Like power scaling Or things you've stated in your video i brought up dbz only because I feel like these 2 Fandoms are terrible
The amount of mental gymnastics someone must do to be mad about literally anything. How someone gets offended over a goddamn face model is absolutely beyond me. Like, do you wanna be miserable or smthn? Is your life so overly cheerful that you have to find the smallest excuse just so you can have something to complain about?
I remember people hating on April's design from TMNT Mutant Mayhem
I don't like the new look of MJ . One alot of games companies in the west doing . But sending her creepy message to social media and her husband's work place . What is wrong with you.
Everytime i think that humans could not stoop any lower these people prove me wrong. Makes me wonder if there is even a limit to how low people can really fall.
No, there was certainly worse
dude that 185 combo in the sable outpost was nutty holy shit
Seeing a huge combo like that is always so amazing! Have you seen some of those crazy web gadget combos?
The thing is mj is modelled after a real women. They changed the face of that real woman entirely.
Like the whole trying to contact her and speak to her is completely wrong. But what insomniac and lots of other game companies are doing is weird
It’s the same girl I’m pretty sure but she broke her jaw
@@l8studios_no unfortunately it’s not Stephanie Tyler Jones, the only bits are her are the nose, eyes and mouth. Everything else is literally one of the intern writers at Insomniac, the face shape, the iconic Jawline and even the hair (except it’s not red). The problem isn’t that she’s not hot but that it’s a narcissistic self insert by another woman who doesn’t look like Stephanie. That’s what upsets me with Mj’s new model and the fact that they lied publicly just to blow smoke back up their arse and the expect sheep’s to believe everything which unfortunately did work since everyone says shit about the criticisms of the new face.
I feel sad for Stephanie and the harassment she got is absolutely atrocious but the reason guys like me are angry is not because she’s not hot or because it’s Stephanie’s fault it’s just that Mj is clearly not modelled after the hired actress but by another woman who just happens to be a writer.
I normally enjoy the game for what it is
But bullying a person because they do a model on their favorite game is kinda dumb
It’s like these fans can change their proportions of their face into a super model in 1 second
It’s like they lose touch with life so much their only thing to do to pump dopamine into their head is by bullying people online
It’s such a disgrace that there are people like this in modern life
I congratulate you for being honest. All I can say is BRAVO!!!!!
This is why things are to be enjoyed alone, fandoms are a poison.
I remember in an old spider man game, peters dad says something that sorta stuck with me. “You’re going to find people in this world, and you will ask yourself, why is this person like this?” He goes on about how he’s surrounded by people like that every day, People who think they’re better than what they are. He sort of implies that you can’t change people like that, even if their mentality is completely mind numbingly insane. It sucks that people like this exist, but there’s just nothing that can be done about it.
sure i prefer the old ponytail MJ design
but i wouldn't go this far just to get that version of MJ back
I feel so bad for her. She really didn't deserve all this. I do hope this same situation doesn't happen to the face models who worked on Star Wars Outlaws. No actor deserves to have their self esteem and mental health affected by random hateful scumbags on the internet.
Very surprised that the spider man fandom has not been mean to the girls who can not hear and has to use sign language
I remember seeing the face for the model back when the trailer released. I can admit, it was kinda off-putting seeing her face from SM1 switch to what we see now. But, I eventually got over it. Then, I watched some gameplay of SM2 via CZcams, and I gotta say I've warmed up to the look. Sure, it's new- but, eventually it'll become the norm. Those people are friggin' disgusting though... To think something so simple as the looks of a 3D Model caused these select individuals go THAT far.
No one is happy with what they have these days unfortunately they always try and pick on something to complain about for the sake of it like how when the demo of the game was released people were complaining about how the water looked. The FUCKING WATER!!! why does the water matter so much it’s not as if Spidey’s gonna have an adventure with Namor anytime soon. Don’t even get me started on how they were also complaining about how Peter was still in NYC like bruh where tf is he supposed to go space these people r just something else and they make my blood boil when they make statements like this
those people are weirdos
The Spider-Man fandom was once a good fandom until these gen z kids came to our world and ruin the fandom completely
So much for with great power comes great with responsibility, right?
its truly disgusting how these slimeballs can get aggressive if they don't do things their way...this is why i dont like to be apart of fandoms because they cause so much unnecessary drama
The worst part is when people try to justify their toxicity and pull the "criticism" or "fanboy" card. Or just blame anyone but themselves
as someone who looks a lot like that mj model im offended lmao
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Not everyone is born pretty
LMFAO🤣@@fantapro23
These situations are practically racism and those people need to
look at the selves in the mirror and ask 'who the hell am I' and Steph probably liked being MJ but then lost interest due to harassment
great discussion, forget them lads talkin shite, their typing ''kys'' was the most they got done that day.
Actually by word of mouth from Stephanie nobody sent death threats. Just tried to speak to her
Damn I forgot the Godzilla fans also as well before I was in TikTok I already saw some G fans are being complain about Godzilla x Kong, Godzilla is being pink
And saying that Minus One is gonna destroy GxK
Like guys, can we just enjoy the fact we’re getting two Godzilla movies in such a short span of time???
I’m sorry I simply don’t care, I understand and know that this is a fictional character and there’s no reason to hate yeah but….THE LITERAL director said he purposely made her ugly and broken in the game on purpose, on top of that come on now guys the pandering that insomniac has been doing is crazy, they gave miles a black panther costume FOR WHAT?! And why didn’t Peter get one ? A lot of woke lgbtq propaganda to, there’s just a lot we can’t just gloss over
I feel like you're unnecessarily elevating the Black Panther suit situation to something it's not. The Black Panther suit was a tribute to Chadwick Boseman so I'm not surprised they gave it to Miles. But also, it's just suits, there's nothing more, nothing less. And stuff for wokeness, there are 3 things I heard people talk about which is Black Cat, the flags and the side mission.
Black Cat said she had a girlfriend and that was it. She said, "My girlfriend's in Paris." and nothing more, nothing less. It's more so a reason as to why she's doing what she's doing. It wasn't shoved down our throats or anything because that wasn't the main focus. It was quickly glossed over because that isn't the important detail. The only LGTBQ scene that people made a big deal about was the side mission with the male couple and yeah, I can understand that, but other than that, nobody talked about anything else.
And yeah, there are other stuff like the Pride Flags and BLM sign but they're not forcing you to look at them. You notice they're in the game and that's it, you move on. And also, I wanna say that New York has WAY more LGTBQ and woke propaganda showing up and Spider-Man 2 showed a part of that and you don't even see the flags or BLM sign unless you're actively looking for it which is honestly on you.
And also, where does the director for Spider-Man 2 say he purposely made her "ugly"? I searched around and the only time I've seen the director talk was on the WIRED channel or Gamecast. If you have evidence of that then please lemme know. Again, if you have issues with that in the game, it's fine. If you don't like the face, there's no issue, it's your opinion. I hope I don't sound like an as*hole rn 😂
@@Chilled_Blue that’s my point regard less if it’s minor stuff or not it’s still stuff I feel should be left out of game we’re meant to enjoy I don’t wanna think about social agendas when I’m playing spider man, I simply just want to enjoy the game for the story, again why did they give MILES the suit instead of Peter, I’m black and I have a white brother and he mentioned it before I did, if it’s a tribute why not give it to Peter to ? It isn’t a stretch, in the miles morales game the put a BLM mural, these aren’t coincidences
@@Chilled_Blue my point being no they aren’t forcing us to look but it’s the pandering that’s aggravating they don’t even care about those social injustices topics it’s only to appeal to all groups
Bro, I think you’re reading way too much into this shit but ok. Also, you pretty much made shit up about what the director said unless you have proof of this statement.
@@Kingcrimson_1456 I do have proof
I totally agree we shouldn't go after The actress if you want to be mad get mad at the writer made MJ a self insert for herself which kinda ruined MJ I am one of the people who I'm not going to lie I almost hate everything about this game and everything around it the fans both sides suck and the story was soo mid and the combat is Such a step down from the previous 2 games for both Spider-Man.its not.even funny people let's stop fighting about this game and all enjoy the new ultimate run of spider man😊
It's sad that "fans" will stoop this low to get what they want 😔 also, I'm glad I'm not the only one who loves the first Amazing Spider-Man! 😂
I will really miss the MJ we had in Spiderman 2 and I think she did amazing with the role. She should not be harassed like this and people should leave her and other people in video game acting roles alone
Bullying and gatekeeping, we need more of it in fandom to keep pieces of shit out. But everyone want to just welcome everyone in. Well here we are.
We’re not all like this guys 😬
I don't mean to excuse any disturbing stalkery behaviour, but the MJ face alteration does in fact affect the story in so far as it hurts the integrity of the character. She doesn't look like the same person, and it's just plain weird. I don't mind that MJ doesn't look like a supermodel, but the difference to the original appearance is very uncanny valley.
First the Peter face change and now this, I'm honestly gonna sit the 3rd game out cause looking at these characters is just off-putting now. Nothing justifies leaving creepy voicemails, but at the same time, it's also true that Insomniac has messed up.
The Spiderman fandom became the Re-Zero fandom due to the death threat they sent to the creators.
good script, well thought out in my opinion, but the 144p gameplay really wasn't it.
The Spider-Man “devs” (which should also be fans) are also disgusting
There are zeronpwople who like mj and she looks nothing like her face model
For someone to be upset about a video-game character is so pathetic. Then to go and put someone down is another level of crappy person syndrome.
Y'know what I'm also disappointed in *fans* I've seen that harrased the Wheeljack and Arcee va's because their different
These people deserve to get mailed to them a copy of Baldur's Gate 3. Which might not be much of a punishment because I hear it's a really good game, but still... a reminder that they won't always get what they want.
It’s not about getting what you want as much as it is the game creators taking already created characters and making those characters whatever they want….you need to send that message to the game designers ….not the customers. It’s just writers inserting themselves into everything.
Those idiots remind me how some of these Resident Evil " fans " were harassing the Ada voice actor on Resident Evil 4 remake where babygirl had to delete every social media she had because of morons who have no life were harassing her and giving her death threats just because they didn't like her voice for Ada which is pathetic and i feel embarrassed for being a Resident Evil fan. Now the model for MJ will no longer be doing any of that stuff because of those so called Spiderman " fans " who just love to ruin everything with their nonsense. Even the game director of Tekken was getting death threats by some idiot on Twitter saying that he's gonna go to the devs studio and shoot everyone just because Eddy Gordo wasn't on the roster or something. This is why i hate certain fanbases because they get too crazy with stuff like this. Hell, even the Suicide Squad game by Rocksteady is getting hated on all because it wasn't the game they wanted or something and i hope there isn't anyone threatening the developers but man that dogshit behavior needs to stop, i bet they all adults and act like children giving tantrums.
If you see the real Stephanie Jones... And you accept what insomniac did to her... You should find a problem with that .. they butchered her... She's gorgeous and they put out what they put out and it's just supposed to be okay? Lol what some fans said to her are wrong but so many who have a problem with it, have a problem with how shitty of a job insomniac did.
Again, there's not a problem with people being upset about it, I get it. It's just the fact people go too far.
Dude what happened to being Spider-Man fan just cuz we adored the character and wanted to see more of it and nothing else? This is disgusting, am huge Spidey fan and if there’s something I don’t like I will just say I don’t like it, plain and simple
Are you talking about these Anti-SJWs or Anti-Woker's because these sides isn't better
Take a hike dude….MJ is suppose to be a super model/ movie star type….this ain’t close. People are done buying mediocrity.
If that's your excuse for people doing this kind of stuff, then mediocrity is all you guys deserve.
She isn’t tho she’s a reporter in this
@@l8studios_ which is just another problem. Another thing less accurate. Also you’re telling me reporters can’t be hot??
bro you speaking facts and all but are you playing on a potato your gameplay is lagging at some parts for example 3:55
Lmaoooooo. Nah, I don't usually experience issues like that much tho so it was weird for me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Chilled_Blue all good
to be honest I do not get it really we never had a problem with the actress the actress is a beautiful woman Stephanie Tyler Jones is A beautiful woman but for some reason the game made her look ugly and it is sad because she is a beautiful lady just like the actress for Tanya beautiful women but the game did her unjustly
That’s so messed up
Hold on, how're you able to play Spider-Man on an xbox?
I'm playing it on PC with an Xbox controller 🤣🤣🤣
Damm first Godzilla fans attacking a kid and now Spider-Man fans attacking an actress wild shit
Hold up, huh?
I’m sorry say what now?
You hit a combo at 8:18 hooray
Its perthetic and childish if you dont like something sending harassment is just perthetic they wouldn't do it in real life because they're cowards or because they cant get out of their chair
I'm confused here. Where did she ever say that the people harassing her hated her face in game? All she said was that they were Spider-Man fans. It seems like you're taking a leap here.
You're right, she didn't say it, however the fact that Spider-Man fans hate MJ in the games and the fact she's quitting and mentioned that along with these fans "stalking" her, It's not crazy to assume that these "fans" did this because of MJ and her face was discussed a whole lot and was getting a lot of hate so it's not crazy to assume it's one of those reasons.
If not, then the only other reason is that they're just creepily obsessed with her. With that reason plus leaving many messages and voicemails and who knows what else in her work place to a point where she considers it stalking is a form of harassment. She literally said she felt unsafe in her own workplace so yeah, that says a lot as well.
People could've done this for one of these reasons or both. And also she called them Spider-Man Fans cause she wanted to use the nicest term as possible.
They should admit they don’t talk to real women . Cause real women look like that . There too used to these twitch girls that’s out of there league. They really need to touch grass and talk to real women .
Meeting new women isn't simple
hate how some people will be like oh u don’t like andrew garfield spider man he’s the best what do u mean like i can’t have my own opinion like my favorite will always be tobey yk but i don’t mind other people like the other spider men it sucks or with the transformers fandom oh u like the bay movies more than g1 omg ur opinion is so wrong i just hate fandoms and i totally get what u mean
Bro took it personally
The model isn’t supposed to be there to look “hot” or their for those idiots pleasure, like how pathetic can you be? You can dislike the face if you want that’s fine, but saying “she’s not hot” is pathetic. I prefer the original face model, but I ain’t gonna be a crybaby about it.
there called Stans and they do weird and unchill. but there few than many. unless your dream smp fan then they are many
MJ looks better in spider man 2 in my personal opinion fandoms ruin everything
Don’t forget power rangers fans too
I'll never get the outrage, it's weirdo shit.
Am I the only one who still thinks she’s a baddie?
Yes
As a lifelong Spider-Man fan I am disappointed
How are you playing on xbox
I'm playing on PC
I wish it’s on Xbox