The Mk III Snider and Ballard Rifle: The Battle of Eccles Hill -PART FOUR- "Historical Supplement"
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A wonderful addition to the series. You could really see the difference in terminal ballistics between the Ballard and the Snider in the plinking exercise--very telling. But seeing Bakno shooting an actual Ballard rifle (probably) that was actually at the battle was truly exceptional. Thank you to all of you gentlemen.
A sporting rifle, admittedly. But the Snider hits so much harder!
It was thanks to Ross who lent the Ballard rifle for our use and the now non existent Roberson Cartridge Co. that made the reloadable rimfire cases.
how can this comment be 11 days old if the video is only 8 💀
@@martinomazzoni9056 because I am a Patreon member and so got to see the video before its official release.
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My opinion is from the American perspective, but this series has been very illuminative.
Prior to your series, my perspective of the Fenian story was the very stereotype "drunk Irishman try to invade Canada and are repelled by unprepared farmers," but these videos have been very informative of the reality of what was going on in both camps.
Cheers!
Your Snyder got a nice workout. Well done!
Yes it did!
Outstanding! Thank you , very much, the firearms was awesome ‘
to see in the the actual ammo that would have greeted them made it real !
Very well done!
The crux of the Channel!
An excellent series on the history and technology of the era, Thank you.
You are most welcome!
This series was definatly interesting.
Glad to hear!
Thank you very much for giving us a new video after a long time🎉🎉🎉
Welcome!
My Grandaddy didn’t come across the border until 1920 after WW1 and his Daddy and G-Daddy was across the Ottawa River in Eardley around that time. Still incredible to think of the battle of the reasons behind it. Thanks Rob and everyone involved!
Thanks for sharing!
Excellent content as always. I think this was a most useful addition to the other episodes.
Glad to hear. Thank you kindly.
Good Evening Sir, That is Truly OUTSTANDING Historical Informative Video 👍😇🧐Cheers 🍻
Thank you! Hope you found the remainder of the series enjoyable!
I love seeing you in the red coat and pipe clay 👍👍
Cheers!
Interesting as always. Thank you!
Cheers!
Another excellent vid with top turnout, locations, photo's, people and shooting. Very interesting series which has taught me about a historical event I wasn't very aware of.
The Fenian Raids is an important, though little known part of Canadian history...
Fantastic very informative thanks for sharing with us
You are most welcome!
Excellent video. Brings a historical engagement to life in a fascinating and innovative way.
Cheers!
Good afternoon from Syracuse NY United States of America
Hope you enjoyed it!
I love it thank you my friend
Love it
Cheers!
A great wrap up to the series. Excellent content BM. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers!
A wonderful wrap out in the field. I loved it. Thank you.
Cheers. Thank you!
To me the Fenian cannon has the look of being made in a modest but competent engineering workshop keeping within its capability to manufacture rather than from a normal artillery factory. Looks like a decent effort but I doubt if it had more than solid shot to fire. Was it rifled?
Well done all those involved in the making of this little series.
Agreed John. There are no markings, or other identifying features, nor is it of a pattern that is seen literally anywhere else at this point... The fact that it was a 'cartridge' piece is notable as Artillery at this point, was still in the era of bagged charges. It was rifled, yes.
must of been a real challenge to make(one of the biggest you have done) / the ranges you shoot at blows my mind /
Indeed it was. It's the first series on the Channel with so many guests (and so much footage/discussion) to pair down.... almost 9 hours in just talk with the guests. Glad you enjoyed it!
very nice wrap up
Thanks!
BRAVISSIMO!! Well done, ALL!! And many thanks from me and mine for the history lesson. We appreciate the time and effort involved in creating this reenactment and study.
Very kind. You are most welcome.
Good morning! Gonna take another coffee and enjoy the show! Thank you very much for sharing!👍👍👍👍
Cheers!
Beautiful part of the world.
Yes it is!
Great series, thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
A excellent supplement
Thank you V!
Branko, svaka cast majstore, ziveli
A good friend...
Hey Rob I might be asking for too much but would you do a video about British arms in foreign service, or more specifically the muzzle loading Enfield that are sold to the Kingdom of Siam around the time of king Rama IV or breech loading rifles such as the Snider-Enfield during the time of king Rama V.
I understand if you are not able to do that and you don’t have to if you don’t want to; as I don’t want to let’s say put stress on you but I would appreciate it if you do.
I can't guarantee about a dedicated video, but mentioning them in the context of foreign use, is something that could happen, indeed.
@@britishmuzzleloaders Thank you for the response, and like I said I understand why you wouldn’t be able to make a dedicated video considering how hard it is to find information, even as a Thai myself who was born and raised and lives in Thailand; finding information is still rather difficult due to various factors such as accessibility of information as well as how Siamese/Thai history is plagued with myths and propaganda such as the time period we are talking about where there are a lot of what I would personally call anti-foreigner propaganda which calling it that might be a bit of a stretch but I think you understand. Still while I would like a dedicated video if possible I understand why you wouldn’t be able to do it and would still appreciate them being mentioned in the context of foreign use.
Excellent stuff sir. I was particularly struck by the results of shooting at the "Fenian" targets, most of the hits would have been disabling rather than fatal, which does reflect the casualties reported for Eccles Hill.
Glad you enjoyed it! The hits are indicative of general accuracy only... a link with their position on the target and the actual casualties on the day is a bit spurious.... We are after all dealing with non service loads and bullets which require excessive workup to find sight settings and sight pictures to achieve the accuracy that would have been taken for granted with service ammo and sights.
@@britishmuzzleloaders Oh agreed, but would service ammo at the time in Canada been that consistent? How long had it been in store etc etc etc. Not a question that can easily be answered if answered at all.
I was more commenting that your results seemed a fair reflection of casualties on the day, the Fenians were not, as I understand it, trained soldiers so when they came under effective fire they went to ground and when the chance eventually arose they buggered off.
You don't have to annihilate the enemy, just persaude them that they have better life options available.
Once again, thanks.
Hi. I was wondering if it’s possible to do a video on the Martini-Enfield rifle. Also, will you try to branch off into the sidearms of the British Empire such as the Webley or Adams revolvers? Do take care of yourself Rob. Happy Father’s Day too.
I don't have a Martini Enfield. Never say never on the revolvers, but its an area that is fraught with friction and expense in this country...
Big blobs of lead have significant penetration, I imagine that 2-3 rows of meat targets.would have been affected by each shot
For sure!
I wonder if the cannon is a "CSA" the confederacy gun from the USA civil war ?
No one knows.....
Time for a whiskey break mate
Cheers!
Dear Mr British Muzzleloader, a question: were guns of this time and circumstance afforded the opportunity to have worke-up loads, or did you purchase a card box of cartridges and got what you got, with associated variable accuracy dependent on how each individual gun enjoyed said ammo?
I'm guessing the latter, but would appreciate your insight.
Thank you, nice video series, Gus.
In the military, you just got what you got... service ammo.... as for commercial offerings, I suppose that it would have been like today with manufacturers making versions of the same round.
@@britishmuzzleloaders thank you for your reply
my guess is that the cannon is a one of. Bubba got a old gun and tried to modernise it. Do the shell fit a cannon at the time or was that too made by a unknown maker.
Indeed. As mentioned, there have been many people, serious in motivation, try to figure it out, but to no avail thus far...
@@britishmuzzleloaders I don´t know if it´s fun or sad. If I got this right. as I didn´t even know about the conflict before your videos about it.
That smaks of bad conversions or possibly sabotage
The story of the Needham is very interesting, for sure!
75th
Thank you.
Anytime anybody from the US tries to invade Canada, it never ends well for the invader lol
Really? we both got "Hillary and Billed!" still are! with the other Robinette's!
Nevermind? The French? or their 1st Lady! creepy old dude? and relations with the "great white" north?
For sure!
Fascinating sir, thanks for this supplement!
Most welcome!
Really too bad the Irish were told to stop. From my understanding they were actually "winning" quite a bit.
Don't know what you are talking about. The Fenians were outright and thoroughly defeated at Eccles Hill... Have you watched the other videos in the series?
Hey Son of Dawn, I suspect your comment is referencing the May 1866 raid some years before Eccles Hill.
That raid had punitive success, in that it repulsed a similarly sized enemy force (by the standards of the day very low casualties on all sides, more a morale thing), looted some civilian houses near the border, and caused some excitement in town. The Fenians then went home ...... I'm assuming this is the bit of that story you're referring to in your remark.
Canadian/British authorities were moving to deal more fully with that raid, and if the Fenians hadn't left, they would eventually have met overwhelming forces with a logistics tail, artillery and cavalry way beyond the capacity of a few hundred plucky chaps to deal with. The next battle or perhaps three fights later, their number would inevitably be up. There was no swarm of reinforcements and wagons of supplies rushing on their heels in aid. It was literally just a bunch of guys with whatever they were carrying and their rifles. Their prior battlefield victory was more due to the Canadian/British troops getting confused and making a sequence of bad calls, rather than any remarkable skill or tactics by the Fenians.
I think for all concerned, it was terrific the Fenians went home at that time, saving their own and Canadian lives from an inevitable end-game, and saving a bunch of hardship for Canadian civilians having their homes ransacked and looted.
Last time I was this early. The fenian threat was still a thing. God save Ireland.
done! for now?
Louder!!!
Haha!