Barbara Windsor hated this storyline as she was the exact opposite to Peggy and never would have been prejudiced against a person who was hiv positive.
I remember reading an interview with her about this deapite her own personal opinions she still played it so well because sadly that's how many people behaved towards people with AIDS and HIV they were pariah's but at least give Peggy credit she clearly felt bad and awful over the things she said to him and they made amends it takes a big person to actually go to someone you've done wrong to and apologise
It was the same many years ago when Dot learned her neighbours were a gay couple-June Brown hated having to play the role of a homophobe because she couldn’t have been more different in real life and had many gay friends.
This was about the same time Peggy was diagnosed with breast cancer. It took the narcissism of a personal tragedy to wake Peggy up and identify with a person she not long ago made to feel like crap over something that wasn’t his fault.
Years later when Mark has baby Louise and Peggy and Pauline are fighting, Pauline insults Peggy's kids and Peggy insults hers. Louise doesn't remember Mark was her dad. She was too young. Mark was a really good guy. He dealt with it so well. Peggy was dealt her own hand and sought advice from Mark. Saw her mistake
She was big enough to insult and slander him in a pub full of friends and strangers, but when it comes to apologizing, not big enough to do the same. She should have made a public apology and stood in her bar and told everyone how wrong she was. Horrible little woman. At least she apologized which I suppose is the main thing.
That's probably because he was first diagnosed with it in 1991 and eventually died of it off screen in 2004, so it would take forever to show the whole thing. Same thing with Peggy's cancer issues too. First go it in 1996 then cleared from it, then thought she had it again in 1999 but I believe that was a false alarm (,correct me if I'm wrong), and then she got it again in 2016 and took her own life so that she wouldn't suffer from it.
SUCH FANTASTIC STORY LINE WATCHING THIS STORY LINE WITH MARK AND PEGGY AS I AM WATCHING THIS 3rd FEBRUARY 2021 I think about THE ONE AND ONLY FREDDIE Mercury and his loving husband JIM IS ONLY TRUE LOVE Mary Austin was a try out FREDDIE MERCURY HAD SO MUCH LOVE TOO GIVE TOO IS FANS AND A VERY SPECIAL LOVE TO THE QUEEN THE FULL BLOWN LOVE WAS JIM .This is what I am thinking of while I watch this
She sort of proved that in the future when she tried using Mark's HIV against him in the custody battle for Louise. Not that Mark was right to keep Phil's child from him but even so.
She was sorry but only because she got sick and realised how cruel she'd been. She used it to try and get Louise as a desperate ploy because Lisa was keeping Louise from Phil. Don't think she was still prejudiced. Peggy and Mark had an up and down relationship. When he left they were on good terms. He and Phil never got on, he and Grant did
From his ex wife Jill who died from it. The first actor who played Mark sadly died and at that time the character was quite rebellious, even horrible in a way. This Mark came back grown up and kinder, said to be from his diagnosis changing him
Hello Pauline I just came round to say Get outta my pub!! OK dear I will have a tea if you are sure. Actually Peggy my kettle is dry. Get outer my kitchen!! Hey lady's what's up? Get outta my bog!! Can't you see I am busy with my fruit and vegetation. Pauline who's at the door? Its only the postman again. Hey Royal man get outer my letter box!! That's my flap.
Barbara Windsor hated this storyline as she was the exact opposite to Peggy and never would have been prejudiced against a person who was hiv positive.
Kev L F*cking brilliant actress!!
I remember reading an interview with her about this deapite her own personal opinions she still played it so well because sadly that's how many people behaved towards people with AIDS and HIV they were pariah's but at least give Peggy credit she clearly felt bad and awful over the things she said to him and they made amends it takes a big person to actually go to someone you've done wrong to and apologise
Fantastic actress
@@wickedwitchoftheeast88 Yeah it is and it's only when they are dealt just as nasty a hand in life that they realise the error of their ways.
It was the same many years ago when Dot learned her neighbours were a gay couple-June Brown hated having to play the role of a homophobe because she couldn’t have been more different in real life and had many gay friends.
Has 27 years really passed so quickly 😮
This was about the same time Peggy was diagnosed with breast cancer.
It took the narcissism of a personal tragedy to wake Peggy up and identify with a person she not long ago made to feel like crap over something that wasn’t his fault.
Loved how Peggy grew as a person such a great character
I've been looking for this scene for ages.
Barbara Windsor was absolutely extraordinary!
The way Mark speaks is like he's narrating a story
Mark was as sharp as a razor
Years later when Mark has baby Louise and Peggy and Pauline are fighting, Pauline insults Peggy's kids and Peggy insults hers. Louise doesn't remember Mark was her dad. She was too young. Mark was a really good guy. He dealt with it so well. Peggy was dealt her own hand and sought advice from Mark. Saw her mistake
*_R.I.P Mark Fowler, Margaret ‘Peggy’ Mitchell and Pauline Fowler xxx_*
Yes all three of these characters are dead.
@@kevinlongman007 and in real life too
@@stewartmcrae8007 No Todd Carty is not dead!
@@kevinlongman007 Sorry my mistake I was getting confused with the original actor who portrayed Mark Fowler
She was big enough to insult and slander him in a pub full of friends and strangers, but when it comes to apologizing, not big enough to do the same. She should have made a public apology and stood in her bar and told everyone how wrong she was. Horrible little woman. At least she apologized which I suppose is the main thing.
This is a great scene BUT it gets undone in 2002 when Peggy once again attacks Mark for having HIV
Typical Peggy though - letting her mouth do the thinking. She used that to attack Pauline, not Mark.
I'm amazed there's no storyline thing here to do with Mark's HIV issues from start to finish
That's probably because he was first diagnosed with it in 1991 and eventually died of it off screen in 2004, so it would take forever to show the whole thing.
Same thing with Peggy's cancer issues too. First go it in 1996 then cleared from it, then thought she had it again in 1999 but I believe that was a false alarm (,correct me if I'm wrong), and then she got it again in 2016 and took her own life so that she wouldn't suffer from it.
SUCH FANTASTIC STORY LINE WATCHING THIS STORY LINE WITH MARK AND PEGGY AS I AM WATCHING THIS 3rd FEBRUARY 2021 I think about THE ONE AND ONLY FREDDIE Mercury and his loving husband JIM IS ONLY TRUE LOVE Mary Austin was a try out FREDDIE MERCURY HAD SO MUCH LOVE TOO GIVE TOO IS FANS AND A VERY SPECIAL LOVE TO THE QUEEN THE FULL BLOWN LOVE WAS JIM .This is what I am thinking of while I watch this
Peggy reacted how alot of people acted. It wouldn't have been a realistic storyline if everyone was fine with it
it felt like she apologised because shes got cancer not because she is sorry for what she did to mark
Unique Remix I disagreed
She sort of proved that in the future when she tried using Mark's HIV against him in the custody battle for Louise. Not that Mark was right to keep Phil's child from him but even so.
She was sorry but only because she got sick and realised how cruel she'd been. She used it to try and get Louise as a desperate ploy because Lisa was keeping Louise from Phil. Don't think she was still prejudiced. Peggy and Mark had an up and down relationship. When he left they were on good terms. He and Phil never got on, he and Grant did
How did Stacy + Marten get together??plz
But how did he acquire it?
from a ex
From his ex wife Jill who died from it. The first actor who played Mark sadly died and at that time the character was quite rebellious, even horrible in a way. This Mark came back grown up and kinder, said to be from his diagnosis changing him
See he wasn't gay
Not all people who get HIV are gay and not all gays have HIV so your comment is quite frankly ridiculous.
You don't have to be gay
maybe she thought that peggy assumed mark slept with a guy n then caught hiv, when really he caught it off a woman who had hiv
Hello Pauline I just came round to say Get outta my pub!! OK dear I will have a tea if you are sure. Actually Peggy my kettle is dry. Get outer my kitchen!! Hey lady's what's up? Get outta my bog!! Can't you see I am busy with my fruit and vegetation. Pauline who's at the door? Its only the postman again. Hey Royal man get outer my letter box!! That's my flap.