8:50 - Ashley's withdrawal from 4CC 12:02 - Tonya Harding 16:50 - Liam Firus PAIRS - 19:08 19:08 - Lubov Ilyushechkina/Dylan Moscovitch, Kirsten Moore-Towers/Michael Marinaro, Julianne Seguin/Charlie Bilodeau 27:12 - Meagan Duhamel/Eric Radford 28:58 - Olympic Team Event personal choice MEN 32:00 - Patrick Chan 36:24 - Keegan Messing/Nam Nguyen (I pick La Strada!) 39:28 - Conrad Orzel ICE DANCE 41:48 - Piper Gilles/Paul Poirier 45:36 - Kaitlyn Weaver/Andrew Poje - one thing about their FD is, they always missed the last climactic "Je suus malaaaaaaaaaaaade". The lift there wasn't that impressive, the entry wasn't dramatic or difficult, just wasn't compatible with the big music. 48:30 - Tessa Virtue/Scott Moir - The new ending is a glorious moment which could really help them get a higher PCS (even though I like the old ending better, i think the old version is a more sophisticated program). I see the ending like Johnathan, they chase for their final, glorious and redemptive moment, and then she dies of exhaustion. LADIES 54:51 - Kaetlyn Osmond/ she should put the Loop as the last jump, she messed it up in the middle of the program and the she will falter 58:47 - Alaine Chatrand/ I feel so sad for her :( 1:00:47 - Larkyn Austman 1:05:03 - Gabrielle Daleman 1:09:32 - Anna Shcherbakova, Europeans 1:15:58 - Fluff piece
But I think Tessa’s character is dead even when she’s in his arms up in the air (not just when Scott puts her down). At least that’s how I interpreted it since her arms are still dangling death-like where she’s being raised by Scott. Tessa described it as a more triumphant ending where she still dies, but there’s still some desperation to it, where they’re still clinging on to something. And I might have this wrong (I’m not familiar with the moulin rouge story as much) but when Scott has his hands up in the air it’s almost like he’s appealing to the Gods asking why she’s dead OR you can interpret it as triumphantly saying I’ll love you until my dying day (and he doesn’t know she’s dead yet). I think it’s beautiful.
Well we all know Jonathan will find something to pick on with TS just for the fun of it even if it has no grasp in reality. Just because he doesn't understand something it doesn't mean that other people don't get it too, I have not seen one person on several social media platforms (Twitter, Instagram, Tumblr and facebook) who failed to get the ending. At this point I'm just sure he is trying to either annoy figure skating fans for the drama or he just really is ignorant about understanding something that is a little bit more complex and nuanced. Oh and no, I'm not Canadian.
The costumes through the shredder, I so agree with you Dave! That was the worst era of ice dance, and it's such a relief that it's over and we have VARIETY in what gets presented. Each team can create it's own identity. Hallelujah!
I'm a sucker for Tessa's gorgeous slit dress and her amazing shape..but I nearly died watching Scott in the free dance. That new top on him..damnnn boy. Damn
LOVE Scott's new costume! I also love Tessa's blue practice dress more than the actual red dress. The simplicity of the blue dress is stunning. I hate how there is red illusion fabric and that sweetheart neckline on the red dress. I wish they would've made the practice dress except in a nice red for the actual costume.
If you think about the ending of Tessa and Scotts FD, in the film Moulin Rouge, Christian doesn't know Satine is dying until the seconds before she actually dyes and prior to that she was performing a musical on stage. So how they've changed their ending is actually more fitting with the storyline of the film in that they were on a massive high or reuniting and then she suddenly dies
I thought the movie is weird like that so I'm finding the new FD ending equally weird... I'm just really not a fan of Moulin Rouge in general and I agree that a program like Maddie and Zach's FD this season would be more fitting for them.
Yeah I understand why they chose it because it is something different and allows them to be maybe a bit more expressive and precise over something like last year but I think it is risky in that people will either like it or dislike it. Plus I think they wanted to do something completely different from the olympics in 2014, and I guess this is there last competitive season so probably wanted to do something they were really passionate about! Hopefully we can all admire it whether you like it or not, don't think anyone could deny the technical difficulty of the programme, their skating skills or the commitment they give to the characters! Plus I do think Tessa is absolutely stunning all the way through!
I love Madi and Zach. They are an underrated team as opposed to V/M being overrated. Not taking away from their skating skills, but they are overscored all the time.
I love both teams, I'm from the UK. I've thought for ages that Madi and Zach were particularly underrated at nationals in previous years so I'm so thrilled for them this year!
I trained with Gabby 8ish years ago at Richmond Training Center in Richmond Hill, Ontario (coaches: Andrei Berezintsev, Inga Zusev).. and at the time she had the weirdest technique, terrible jumps, appearance and SS. I can personally say that people made fun of her for not being aesthetically pleasing. I never really noticed that these talks bothered her but now I think they really did because in a short 5 years she changed her image, makeup, clothes, jumping technique and SS. I think to this day she over-tries to be that typical ice princess with some sassiness and that translates into her social media and her attitude. It seems like she has something to prove all the time.
alex8matt She's spoken about this in interviews -- i.e., being bullied for her appearance and how far she's come to accept herself. People are so cruel.
Dave tweeted about Keegan's Incredible Hulk program awhile back. Once you've watched it, you can't unsee it. When I watch him skate the ghost of Dr. David Banner still casts a shadow over the ice for me.
"un ange passe" means an angel is passing in a literal sense however it's an expression that means there is a long silence/interruption usually in a conversation because of day-dreaming or self- reflection.
It looks like Jonathan is kneeling behind a table with odd lighting. But I do agree about the overly effusive "drink the Kool-Aid" nature of the Canadian commentators! 90% of the ladies wouldn't have made it to nationals in Japan or the USA, but it was all praise and sunshine for everyone.
asianamericanfocus I am recuperating from my surgery at a hotel in Manhattan and the internet wasn’t working...so I had to rest my phone against my computer and use all of my cellular data...haha. Doing Great.
Jonathan Beyer thank you for your time and dedication to the sport. I enjoy your comments and agree with your remarks about Keegan, Gabrielle, etc. Hope you get well soon!
Jonathan, Joan Sutherland recovered from her sinus surgury early in her career to become the great coloratura of our time. Your fine baritone may be even better AND bigger after this surgury. Good luck...
They are EQUALLY ANNOYING. Tracy Wilson sounds like a zombie when she commentated at Canadian Nationals. Canadian commentators are so biased when it comes to their own. They are supposed to be professionals!!!!!
OH! And I completely agree that Piper and Paul could push the envelope even more! Always love their material but would love to seem them go even crazier!!! :D
That Weaver/Poje/Morozov piece is the perfect antidote to the torch fluff piece. Good gravy, that was hard to watch! I am Canadian, and I think we could do well to have some brutal honesty in our skating coverage. It would be a good balance to the "Canadian" commentary that's out there :) Also, Jonathan, I totally get what you're saying about Larkyn. My fellow Canadians relax; I was rooting for her to get the bronze. But there was a good deal of vacancy in her performances here, especially compared to her material and performance from last years nationals. Her reaction after her free was a bit confusing to me...did she know how the rest of the field had skated? She had three big errors...so was it just a reaction to how much better she had performed here than she did at her Grand Prix assignment? It was confusing
Of all the nationals, the Canadians had the most bloated scores! I would subtract at least 15 points from Kaetlyn's long. Gabby's PCS to 8's. Mind you I like both girls and they could have easily won US nationals with clean skates. The Canadian ladies have come a long way but these championships are like the Europeans Ladies event; after the top 2 or 3 it is a sharp drop in the scores. I don't expect much from Patrick at these Olympics. His comeback has been lackadasical. The pairs: I see D and R 5th. Top three: Chinese, German and Red haired Russian in that order. Dance: Maybe the most competitive and exciting event at these games.
I totally agree. Generally every country inflates their National scores, but Canada took it to a new level. Much more inflated than Russia, US, Italy, France......Osmond 's LP was only one point lower in second place than it was last season when she got first place. Seriously, Daleman got almost 230 for that program?? Grossly inflated scores in every discipline!!!
Hei Erin! Totally agree. I think Japan was the most realistic of all the countries. Only Tessa and Scott were near perfect. Now we off to Korea and late night live viewing!
idk i thought gabby's free was dazzling, especially the step sequence (i know it's hard to watch her do a level 4 step sequence usually but it was much improved and bursting with personality)
Glossed over men. Surprising in a 1:20 video and since there is interesting and eclectic talent coming up. NIc wasn't good here but was worth some convo. And really shocked Phan didn't get any attention. His skating is really coming on given the 3A and 4T were nowhere last season and he's only 16.
I was trying to articulate exactly what I find so off-putting about Alexa's evangelical comments and I think Dave said it beautifully. I do hope that Alexa tries to articulate herself better (she's quite charming when she's not being preachy) and not make it sound like God is giving her/Chris any special attention. And speaking of Chris, I really feel for all that he has gone through, and hope that he can focus and work harder on landing his jumps.
Danielle Fioretti Dave is a troll and always has been. This is like Skating Wendy Williams. Not much Lesson - mostly tabloid gossip. That being said, Dave has never been dishonest about himself (that I know of). I think skaters trusted Jenny and put out, later realizing the monster they created by giving credibility to this resource (which was then repurposed to tear them down - Kori Aide, Gracie Gold, Edmunds, Wagner, etc.). On the flip side. Skater's need to grow the fuck up and stop expecting to be treated with kid gloves. Jonathan, too. Don't throw shade and then cry on Twitter when people snap back. That was a total bitch move.
Very excited to see Virtue and Moir in the Olympics with this reworked program-especially after that CBC interview where they talked about fixing and blamed their loss in 2014 on corrupt judging after the interviewer brought it up. The drama of it all
You are literally telling a lie here. After the interviewer brought up the corruption allegations not once did Tessa and Scott said that they support or believe than claim (even if many other people do). Stop spinning things to create drama, they have been nothing but respectful and professional.
anewbeginningagain Tessa implied that the rumors were true when she said that corruption causes fans to lose faith in the sport. I’m not trying to fight-I’m not in the least bit interested in Internet comments drama. Have as you will.
@RocketCandyColored This is a discussion not a drama. I just don't like it when things are spinned to create a false narrative. Tessa didn't imply that by the way, she said that the accusations of corruption is what causes that, not that there is corruption that's causing it and that's a huge huge difference.
They never "blamed their loss in 2014 on corrupt judging". Not even implying anything of the sort. They have always been consistent with their answers.
I’m Canadian and a true figure skating fan, however, I definitely choose my words carefully when talking about figure skating. I swear...its cut throat out there lol. I get the V/M change but I actually loved the previous ending. I loved the Michelle/Tara reference. I still can’t get over that. I refuse to watch NBC because I have a crazy urge to throw a flipping skate at the TV every time I see Tara on tv.
kudos to jason brown for not pulling out of 4cc's like the others who knew they'd just end up embarrassing themselves, esp. after what happened (and didn't happen) at nationals ; )
A little off topic, but a random question I've always had about gymnastics. Do they "pop" their twists the same way skaters pop jumps? I don't think I've ever seen it before, but I rarely watch it!
what happened to all the this and that videos from 2018/2019 year? i can no longer find them. what is going on? my world is way very sad without dave and jonathan:(
Lol "people who knit" I can totally see that. Skating needs to be made more accessible as a hobby and sport beyond just training. Lots of people know how to skate, but if you want to do more than just skate in circles, or if you want to ice dance, the events are few and far between and the prices are high. Also the musicality just isn't there in most skaters for most people to watch just for entertainment.
Re: Larkyn... I was also offended. The way she holds her arms and shoulders looks like she's new to skating. It's bizarre to see someone with her skating skills make the Olympic team, especially representing a country like Canada (i.e., not the first-ever ice skater from Djibouti). Alaine is a hot mess and she fucks up both her jumps and spins, but, if not for the PR nightmare of placing a non-podium finisher on the team, I think it should've been Alaine to go... Alaine has GPS experience and was National champ two years ago, whereas Larkyn's first GP was this season's Skate Canada, and she *bombed*. Her highest ISU FS score is under 100. She looks so so so deer-in-the-headlights when she's interviewed about the Olympics... I think it's gotta be too much pressure for her, given her lack of experience. When Alaine skates clean (once in several seasons), she's actually good, whereas Larkyn looks a bit like an adult figure skater, IMO.
TheSkatingLesson I said I wasn't watching anymore 'cause you guys had turned into an Ashley Wagner (et al.) Hate Club. I'm hardly the first to lob this criticism at you. In that Comment I suggested you make TSL more informative and less of a bitch-fest... While I doubt I alone influenced your change in tone (i.e., I've seen plenty of people on Facebook suggesting the same), I did notice a change in your tone when you were commentating on US Nationals... Funny enough, I'd actually started watching it just to see how much of it you'd spend ragging on Wagner, and was pleasantly surprised to hear reasonable, informative dialogue -- and I believe I commented as such. I certainly don't have anything against you personally; I'd just hoped to hear less gossip and ridiculousness and more information about skating. I'm liking the new approach and will be tuning in for as long as it continues.
TheSkatingLesson And I would never take issue with you being critical of The Skating; it's being critical of the skatersss, on a personal level -- e.g., when you more-or-less said that Wagner had feigned injury at Skate America and had been too obvious with the Bunga pad, etc. I was grateful to the professional skater -- as were others in the Comments -- for defending the ankle infection debacle. I take issue with you making everything sound as salacious as possible -- not for reasonable criticism of skating.
TheSkatingLesson I assume you'll do an Olympics preview... If possible, I (and I assume others!) would love to hear about the required elements for the SD and FD because ice dance has become my favorite discipline (since Mao retired :-( ) but remains a mystery, technically.
You wondered what Jewel was up to a few weeks ago. I found an article today by happenstance: www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/90s-folk-superstar-jewel-is-happy--finally-now-she-wants-to-know-are-you/2018/01/17/13125686-f61e-11e7-a9e3-ab18ce41436a_story.html
Tracy Wilson has been extremely biased and quite obnoxious to non-Canadians and perhaps some Canadians as well. She was much more professional and objective when she worked for NBC. She's become this Canadian robot when she does commentary and yes she did drink the Kool-Aid!!!!. People talk about Tara Lipinski being annoying. Wilson has surpassed her and then some!!!! Virtue & Moir skated very well, but how much better were they at Nationals than they were at other competitions. Did they really deserve perfect 10's??? How high is the ceiling when it comes to Virtue & Moir? Its become totally ridiculous and so obvious that the Canadian federation wanted to make sure that V/M had a higher score than P/C going into the Olympics. People need to stop predicting the winners and let them just skate at the Olympics first. Disaster could strike any team. Botched twizzles or a fall could knock any team off the podium unless its rigged. Look what happened to Hubbell & Donahue last season at Worlds. It could conceivably happen to any team. Hubbell & Donahue are so good and with mistakes from the other teams, who knows what will happen. My point is just let the Olympics happen and see how all of the teams skate!!!!!!
I want these Candian announcers to follow me around and tell me how good I'm doing. Like girl can you do my work performance review.
I just have to say you guys are better entertainment than Netflix
8:50 - Ashley's withdrawal from 4CC
12:02 - Tonya Harding
16:50 - Liam Firus
PAIRS - 19:08
19:08 - Lubov Ilyushechkina/Dylan Moscovitch, Kirsten Moore-Towers/Michael Marinaro, Julianne Seguin/Charlie Bilodeau
27:12 - Meagan Duhamel/Eric Radford
28:58 - Olympic Team Event personal choice
MEN
32:00 - Patrick Chan
36:24 - Keegan Messing/Nam Nguyen (I pick La Strada!)
39:28 - Conrad Orzel
ICE DANCE
41:48 - Piper Gilles/Paul Poirier
45:36 - Kaitlyn Weaver/Andrew Poje - one thing about their FD is, they always missed the last climactic "Je suus malaaaaaaaaaaaade". The lift there wasn't that impressive, the entry wasn't dramatic or difficult, just wasn't compatible with the big music.
48:30 - Tessa Virtue/Scott Moir - The new ending is a glorious moment which could really help them get a higher PCS (even though I like the old ending better, i think the old version is a more sophisticated program). I see the ending like Johnathan, they chase for their final, glorious and redemptive moment, and then she dies of exhaustion.
LADIES
54:51 - Kaetlyn Osmond/ she should put the Loop as the last jump, she messed it up in the middle of the program and the she will falter
58:47 - Alaine Chatrand/ I feel so sad for her :(
1:00:47 - Larkyn Austman
1:05:03 - Gabrielle Daleman
1:09:32 - Anna Shcherbakova, Europeans
1:15:58 - Fluff piece
Osmond should get rid of the loop and add another lutz ehhh??
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The first😊😊😊😊😊e
But I think Tessa’s character is dead even when she’s in his arms up in the air (not just when Scott puts her down). At least that’s how I interpreted it since her arms are still dangling death-like where she’s being raised by Scott. Tessa described it as a more triumphant ending where she still dies, but there’s still some desperation to it, where they’re still clinging on to something. And I might have this wrong (I’m not familiar with the moulin rouge story as much) but when Scott has his hands up in the air it’s almost like he’s appealing to the Gods asking why she’s dead OR you can interpret it as triumphantly saying I’ll love you until my dying day (and he doesn’t know she’s dead yet). I think it’s beautiful.
Well we all know Jonathan will find something to pick on with TS just for the fun of it even if it has no grasp in reality. Just because he doesn't understand something it doesn't mean that other people don't get it too, I have not seen one person on several social media platforms (Twitter, Instagram, Tumblr and facebook) who failed to get the ending. At this point I'm just sure he is trying to either annoy figure skating fans for the drama or he just really is ignorant about understanding something that is a little bit more complex and nuanced. Oh and no, I'm not Canadian.
That's exactly how I interpreted it as well. I am 100% sure you are correct the way you interpret it.
Fourth most anticipated Nationals This and That video, but so glad it’s here
JetBlueAirways320 ha! Agreed!
The costumes through the shredder, I so agree with you Dave! That was the worst era of ice dance, and it's such a relief that it's over and we have VARIETY in what gets presented. Each team can create it's own identity. Hallelujah!
OMG Jonathan was a FIRECRACKER this episode! I just DIED at his “bye” to Alaine Chartrand.
I'm a sucker for Tessa's gorgeous slit dress and her amazing shape..but I nearly died watching Scott in the free dance. That new top on him..damnnn boy. Damn
Baokie X He's so effing hot. Charlie White was hot too. Yum.
LOVE Scott's new costume! I also love Tessa's blue practice dress more than the actual red dress. The simplicity of the blue dress is stunning. I hate how there is red illusion fabric and that sweetheart neckline on the red dress. I wish they would've made the practice dress except in a nice red for the actual costume.
Jonathan, you sound GREAT!!! Such an IMPROVEMENT!! #MorePlease :-)
If you think about the ending of Tessa and Scotts FD, in the film Moulin Rouge, Christian doesn't know Satine is dying until the seconds before she actually dyes and prior to that she was performing a musical on stage. So how they've changed their ending is actually more fitting with the storyline of the film in that they were on a massive high or reuniting and then she suddenly dies
I thought the movie is weird like that so I'm finding the new FD ending equally weird...
I'm just really not a fan of Moulin Rouge in general and I agree that a program like Maddie and Zach's FD this season would be more fitting for them.
Yeah I understand why they chose it because it is something different and allows them to be maybe a bit more expressive and precise over something like last year but I think it is risky in that people will either like it or dislike it. Plus I think they wanted to do something completely different from the olympics in 2014, and I guess this is there last competitive season so probably wanted to do something they were really passionate about! Hopefully we can all admire it whether you like it or not, don't think anyone could deny the technical difficulty of the programme, their skating skills or the commitment they give to the characters! Plus I do think Tessa is absolutely stunning all the way through!
I love Madi and Zach. They are an underrated team as opposed to V/M being overrated. Not taking away from their skating skills, but they are overscored all the time.
I love both teams, I'm from the UK. I've thought for ages that Madi and Zach were particularly underrated at nationals in previous years so I'm so thrilled for them this year!
I love Scott new outfit in the free skate.
That alone merits a perfect score ;)
I trained with Gabby 8ish years ago at Richmond Training Center in Richmond Hill, Ontario (coaches: Andrei Berezintsev, Inga Zusev).. and at the time she had the weirdest technique, terrible jumps, appearance and SS. I can personally say that people made fun of her for not being aesthetically pleasing. I never really noticed that these talks bothered her but now I think they really did because in a short 5 years she changed her image, makeup, clothes, jumping technique and SS. I think to this day she over-tries to be that typical ice princess with some sassiness and that translates into her social media and her attitude. It seems like she has something to prove all the time.
alex8matt She's spoken about this in interviews -- i.e., being bullied for her appearance and how far she's come to accept herself. People are so cruel.
10's for Gabbie's birthday because this is Canada and they are nice there.
Sure just hand out tens like candy which is exactly what Canada did. It wasn't a birthday party, it was a major competition!!!
Are you serious? That sounds ridiculous!!
Dave tweeted about Keegan's Incredible Hulk program awhile back. Once you've watched it, you can't unsee it. When I watch him skate the ghost of Dr. David Banner still casts a shadow over the ice for me.
"un ange passe" means an angel is passing in a literal sense however it's an expression that means there is a long silence/interruption usually in a conversation because of day-dreaming or self- reflection.
It looks like Jonathan is kneeling behind a table with odd lighting. But I do agree about the overly effusive "drink the Kool-Aid" nature of the Canadian commentators! 90% of the ladies wouldn't have made it to nationals in Japan or the USA, but it was all praise and sunshine for everyone.
asianamericanfocus I am recuperating from my surgery at a hotel in Manhattan and the internet wasn’t working...so I had to rest my phone against my computer and use all of my cellular data...haha. Doing Great.
Now THAT'S dedication. Thanks Jonathan!
Jonathan Beyer I had sinus surgery to lol in the past to. I hope you’re doing better today you looked great. Love you’re comments💙💜💚
Jonathan Beyer thank you for your time and dedication to the sport. I enjoy your comments and agree with your remarks about Keegan, Gabrielle, etc. Hope you get well soon!
Jonathan, Joan Sutherland recovered from her sinus surgury early in her career to become the great coloratura of our time. Your fine baritone may be even better AND bigger after this surgury. Good luck...
I would rather listen to commentators that are "too positive" than the American commentators (Tara and Johnny) who are always so negative... :(
They are EQUALLY ANNOYING. Tracy Wilson sounds like a zombie when she commentated at Canadian Nationals. Canadian commentators are so biased when it comes to their own. They are supposed to be professionals!!!!!
The Canadian Olympic team photo sort of looks like the cast photo of an unauthorized Lifetime biopic about a real Olympic team.
OH! And I completely agree that Piper and Paul could push the envelope even more! Always love their material but would love to seem them go even crazier!!! :D
That Weaver/Poje/Morozov piece is the perfect antidote to the torch fluff piece. Good gravy, that was hard to watch! I am Canadian, and I think we could do well to have some brutal honesty in our skating coverage. It would be a good balance to the "Canadian" commentary that's out there :) Also, Jonathan, I totally get what you're saying about Larkyn. My fellow Canadians relax; I was rooting for her to get the bronze. But there was a good deal of vacancy in her performances here, especially compared to her material and performance from last years nationals. Her reaction after her free was a bit confusing to me...did she know how the rest of the field had skated? She had three big errors...so was it just a reaction to how much better she had performed here than she did at her Grand Prix assignment? It was confusing
I actually did think Tonya seemed drunk in the 20/20 interview. Awesome recap! And yay Jonathan - quick recovery!
The commentary went from unbearable to the source of mild amusement as the competition went on...
Virtue and Moir deserves a perfect score.
No way!!!!!
On behalf of all Canadians, I just want to say sorry to everyone who had to endure that tacky ass fluff piece...
Was wondering when someone was going to bring up Eric's lutz. That needs to be clean in the short especially in KOR.
Of all the nationals, the Canadians had the most bloated scores! I would subtract at least 15 points from Kaetlyn's long. Gabby's PCS to 8's. Mind you I like both girls and they could have easily won US nationals with clean skates. The Canadian ladies have come a long way but these championships are like the Europeans Ladies event; after the top 2 or 3 it is a sharp drop in the scores. I don't expect much from Patrick at these Olympics. His comeback has been lackadasical.
The pairs: I see D and R 5th. Top three: Chinese, German and Red haired Russian in that order.
Dance: Maybe the most competitive and exciting event at these games.
I totally agree. Generally every country inflates their National scores, but Canada took it to a new level. Much more inflated than Russia, US, Italy, France......Osmond 's LP was only one point lower in second place than it was last season when she got first place. Seriously, Daleman got almost 230 for that program?? Grossly inflated scores in every discipline!!!
Hei Erin! Totally agree. I think Japan was the most realistic of all the countries. Only Tessa and Scott were near perfect. Now we off to Korea and late night live viewing!
Yes ice dance is the most competitive event this year. I cannot wait to watch them!
Gabby
idk i thought gabby's free was dazzling, especially the step sequence (i know it's hard to watch her do a level 4 step sequence usually but it was much improved and bursting with personality)
Glossed over men. Surprising in a 1:20 video and since there is interesting and eclectic talent coming up. NIc wasn't good here but was worth some convo. And really shocked Phan didn't get any attention. His skating is really coming on given the 3A and 4T were nowhere last season and he's only 16.
Free Radical we tried to cover the top contenders in every discipline. It is really hard to watch with the Canadian commentators and not feel nauseas.
I was trying to articulate exactly what I find so off-putting about Alexa's evangelical comments and I think Dave said it beautifully. I do hope that Alexa tries to articulate herself better (she's quite charming when she's not being preachy) and not make it sound like God is giving her/Chris any special attention. And speaking of Chris, I really feel for all that he has gone through, and hope that he can focus and work harder on landing his jumps.
Danielle Fioretti Dave is a troll and always has been. This is like Skating Wendy Williams. Not much Lesson - mostly tabloid gossip.
That being said, Dave has never been dishonest about himself (that I know of). I think skaters trusted Jenny and put out, later realizing the monster they created by giving credibility to this resource (which was then repurposed to tear them down - Kori Aide, Gracie Gold, Edmunds, Wagner, etc.).
On the flip side. Skater's need to grow the fuck up and stop expecting to be treated with kid gloves.
Jonathan, too. Don't throw shade and then cry on Twitter when people snap back. That was a total bitch move.
Watching this after the Olympics is so much fun.
Very excited to see Virtue and Moir in the Olympics with this reworked program-especially after that CBC interview where they talked about fixing and blamed their loss in 2014 on corrupt judging after the interviewer brought it up. The drama of it all
You are literally telling a lie here. After the interviewer brought up the corruption allegations not once did Tessa and Scott said that they support or believe than claim (even if many other people do). Stop spinning things to create drama, they have been nothing but respectful and professional.
anewbeginningagain Tessa implied that the rumors were true when she said that corruption causes fans to lose faith in the sport. I’m not trying to fight-I’m not in the least bit interested in Internet comments drama. Have as you will.
@RocketCandyColored This is a discussion not a drama. I just don't like it when things are spinned to create a false narrative. Tessa didn't imply that by the way, she said that the accusations of corruption is what causes that, not that there is corruption that's causing it and that's a huge huge difference.
Virtue & Moir absolutely did NOT deserve gold in 2014. People need to get over it.
They never "blamed their loss in 2014 on corrupt judging". Not even implying anything of the sort. They have always been consistent with their answers.
Screaming at the larkynn tea being spilled in this video. Take a fucking sip, babes!
I’m Canadian and a true figure skating fan, however, I definitely choose my words carefully when talking about figure skating. I swear...its cut throat out there lol. I get the V/M change but I actually loved the previous ending. I loved the Michelle/Tara reference. I still can’t get over that. I refuse to watch NBC because I have a crazy urge to throw a flipping skate at the TV every time I see Tara on tv.
kudos to jason brown for not pulling out of 4cc's like the others who knew they'd just end up embarrassing themselves, esp. after what happened (and didn't happen) at nationals ; )
Yeahh i usually find bad photoshop hilarious, but Gabby's just make me sad :( love yourself, girl!
PS I got so frustrated when I couldn't hear the audience clapping that was wierd
A little off topic, but a random question I've always had about gymnastics. Do they "pop" their twists the same way skaters pop jumps? I don't think I've ever seen it before, but I rarely watch it!
J O sometimes gymnasts open up and don’t complete the twists. It isn’t as common as in skating. They don’t call it popping though.
Brennan sounded like a mean person. What a surprise! LOL
Did I hear Dave say “Jenny’s back on CZcams”?
Patrick's skating as more gliding quality and buoyancy; Jeremy's skating was more about softness and flow.
Love the intro music. What is it?
leonida1234 it’s the theme from the Young and the Restless
what happened to all the this and that videos from 2018/2019 year? i can no longer find them. what is going on? my world is way very sad without dave and jonathan:(
Lol "people who knit" I can totally see that. Skating needs to be made more accessible as a hobby and sport beyond just training. Lots of people know how to skate, but if you want to do more than just skate in circles, or if you want to ice dance, the events are few and far between and the prices are high.
Also the musicality just isn't there in most skaters for most people to watch just for entertainment.
Jenny is back on youtube??
Lol drinking the koolaid Dave lease is so right!!!!!!!!! Lol lol!!!!!!!!
Carolina has said she’s NOT leaving Mishin yet...
Who is this Suzanne character DL keeps mentioning?
Suzanne Yoculan Leebern.
Yay!!!!!
Perhaps we should get rid 4cc all together. They can have Asian Championship while the US and Canada fight each other.
Re: Larkyn... I was also offended. The way she holds her arms and shoulders looks like she's new to skating. It's bizarre to see someone with her skating skills make the Olympic team, especially representing a country like Canada (i.e., not the first-ever ice skater from Djibouti). Alaine is a hot mess and she fucks up both her jumps and spins, but, if not for the PR nightmare of placing a non-podium finisher on the team, I think it should've been Alaine to go... Alaine has GPS experience and was National champ two years ago, whereas Larkyn's first GP was this season's Skate Canada, and she *bombed*. Her highest ISU FS score is under 100. She looks so so so deer-in-the-headlights when she's interviewed about the Olympics... I think it's gotta be too much pressure for her, given her lack of experience. When Alaine skates clean (once in several seasons), she's actually good, whereas Larkyn looks a bit like an adult figure skater, IMO.
Queen Mao Asada aren’t you the poster who threatens not to watch again when we are too critical ;)
TheSkatingLesson I said I wasn't watching anymore 'cause you guys had turned into an Ashley Wagner (et al.) Hate Club. I'm hardly the first to lob this criticism at you. In that Comment I suggested you make TSL more informative and less of a bitch-fest... While I doubt I alone influenced your change in tone (i.e., I've seen plenty of people on Facebook suggesting the same), I did notice a change in your tone when you were commentating on US Nationals... Funny enough, I'd actually started watching it just to see how much of it you'd spend ragging on Wagner, and was pleasantly surprised to hear reasonable, informative dialogue -- and I believe I commented as such. I certainly don't have anything against you personally; I'd just hoped to hear less gossip and ridiculousness and more information about skating. I'm liking the new approach and will be tuning in for as long as it continues.
TheSkatingLesson And I would never take issue with you being critical of The Skating; it's being critical of the skatersss, on a personal level -- e.g., when you more-or-less said that Wagner had feigned injury at Skate America and had been too obvious with the Bunga pad, etc. I was grateful to the professional skater -- as were others in the Comments -- for defending the ankle infection debacle. I take issue with you making everything sound as salacious as possible -- not for reasonable criticism of skating.
Was just having fun with you ;) We call it as we honestly see it from week to week.
TheSkatingLesson I assume you'll do an Olympics preview... If possible, I (and I assume others!) would love to hear about the required elements for the SD and FD because ice dance has become my favorite discipline (since Mao retired :-( ) but remains a mystery, technically.
I’m Canadian and I’m embarrassed with the commentary. Geez, Ted Barton couldn’t say’ ladies ‘ or ‘women” instead of ‘girls’. He was so annoying.
You wondered what Jewel was up to a few weeks ago. I found an article today by happenstance: www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/90s-folk-superstar-jewel-is-happy--finally-now-she-wants-to-know-are-you/2018/01/17/13125686-f61e-11e7-a9e3-ab18ce41436a_story.html
Oh, for the love... give me Tracey Wilson over Johnny Weir ANY day.
Hell NO!!! Tracey Wilson is f----king annoying!!!! She most definitely drank the Kool-Aid!!!
This fluff piece seems to be so stiff and scripted xD
She’s dying. She’s just dying faster.
Completely disagree with Jonathan about Larkin. I’m shocked.
1:12:05 LOL
Tracy Wilson has been extremely biased and quite obnoxious to non-Canadians and perhaps some Canadians as well. She was much more professional and objective when she worked for NBC. She's become this Canadian robot when she does commentary and yes she did drink the Kool-Aid!!!!. People talk about Tara Lipinski being annoying. Wilson has surpassed her and then some!!!!
Virtue & Moir skated very well, but how much better were they at Nationals than they were at other competitions. Did they really deserve perfect 10's??? How high is the ceiling when it comes to Virtue & Moir? Its become totally ridiculous and so obvious that the Canadian federation wanted to make sure that V/M had a higher score than P/C going into the Olympics. People need to stop predicting the winners and let them just skate at the Olympics first. Disaster could strike any team. Botched twizzles or a fall could knock any team off the podium unless its rigged. Look what happened to Hubbell & Donahue last season at Worlds. It could conceivably happen to any team. Hubbell & Donahue are so good and with mistakes from the other teams, who knows what will happen. My point is just let the Olympics happen and see how all of the teams skate!!!!!!
Well stated......