Who Did Leta Say "I Love You" To? | Fantastic Beasts Theory

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    Today J dives into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to discuss a new theory about one of the biggest questions from Fantastic Beasts The Crimes of Grindelwald: Who did Leta say “I love you” to before she died, and what ramifications that act may have moving forward.
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  • @SuperCarlinBrothers
    @SuperCarlinBrothers  Před 5 lety +1579

    Did Leta's death cast Sacrificial Protection!?!

    • @devinharwood6010
      @devinharwood6010 Před 5 lety +42

      SuperCarlinBrothers where did you get that awesome Slytherin crest shirt?

    • @fireflithewitch
      @fireflithewitch Před 5 lety +12

      Did it? 0-0

    • @TheRibottoStudios
      @TheRibottoStudios Před 5 lety +156

      imagine how awkward it would be if that Protection was ONLY for Newt like......YIKES. oopsie.

    • @ameliak4197
      @ameliak4197 Před 5 lety +19

      DUN DUN DUN

    • @aqibabashir4407
      @aqibabashir4407 Před 5 lety +6

      SuperCarlinBrothers I honestly don’t know

  • @JayKBishop
    @JayKBishop Před 5 lety +2159

    She died/said I love you to the niffler

    • @Crow-id6yt
      @Crow-id6yt Před 5 lety +85

      Luke Josiah that is perfect! Everyone loves nifflers!

    • @finnkerby-pinguet7111
      @finnkerby-pinguet7111 Před 5 lety +99

      obviously that's the only reasonable explanation

    • @wickedshadowchester6297
      @wickedshadowchester6297 Před 5 lety +87

      Nifflers are the cutest things ever. Only reason why it survived... It's bc of Leta....

    • @thatguitardude4307
      @thatguitardude4307 Před 5 lety +26

      @Luke Josiah Awwwww....The niffler is so cute!

    • @sunnydragon722
      @sunnydragon722 Před 5 lety +55

      Ah THATS how it survives the flames with only a injury. Theory confirmed!

  • @janwouter5215
    @janwouter5215 Před 5 lety +459

    "Do you think Dumbledore will mourn for you?" Love this line

    • @iamx3656
      @iamx3656 Před 5 lety +11

      Chilling

    • @chaosdraconyx9832
      @chaosdraconyx9832 Před 5 lety +5

      @@iamx3656 Honestly my favorite line.

    • @Mary_Studios
      @Mary_Studios Před 5 lety +26

      This makes you wonder what Grindalwalde thinks about Newt and Dumbledore.

    • @alienfriend3840
      @alienfriend3840 Před 5 lety +9

      Grindalwalde just wants Dumbledore to do that for him... because love and all that

    • @fatima_nadeem
      @fatima_nadeem Před 4 lety +16

      Jealous much???

  • @akiriith
    @akiriith Před 5 lety +501

    Leta kinda confuses me. There is that line in the first movie where Queenie calls her a "taker" I think, and mentions Newt needs a giver. I think it's because Leta was always an outcast and Newt constantly offered her emotional support, and perhaps she couldn't quite do the same for him. Even if they did have feelings for each other, Leta just couldn't be there for him as much as he did for her. Newt however is still associated with comfort to her, so even if she does really love Theseus, she instinctively reaches for Newt when she's cornered and afraid again. I'd like to think the "I love you" was for both though...
    [It's also fun to notice how Queenie was right about the taker/giver thing. For example, caring about the things he loves. Leta was always passive around Newt's beasts, she was amazed by them but he was the channel between her and them. Tina on the other hand actively read his book, actually interacted with the big asian beast thingy, and overall really does try to be there for Newt and GET him and like him for who he is, not because he is her emotional support. It doesnt make Leta a bad person, she's just... Not as compatible. Really this weird love square thing is complicated. I wish I could rewatch this :/ )

    • @ekyuppal383
      @ekyuppal383 Před 5 lety +4

      @J&N Gaming and More! Leta didnt realise it was a different baby until afterwards

    • @elanorallmann
      @elanorallmann Před 5 lety +5

      You can. It is on the internet. My city's cinema didn't show the movie (hate you forever cinema) so I had to wait for a month to see it on the internet.

    • @tiffprendergast
      @tiffprendergast Před 4 lety

      Annie Lynch yup

    • @blue_sweater
      @blue_sweater Před 2 lety +6

      Well Leta in Hogwarts helped Newt with beasts. And actually through him she learned about them and how to treat them. And she read book too.
      Plus Queenie reads Newts mind and his opinion on her. Which doesn't mean she was only taker in real life. But the biggest thing about Leta we should understand that she has huge psychological trauma that hunts her till her death. So due to this it's no wonder she is the way she is. It's really difficult to be with person who is trapped in ideas she's a monster and killer and not worthy of happy life.

  • @onlyzombiequeen416
    @onlyzombiequeen416 Před 5 lety +115

    We all know it's newt, she had a crush on him (you can tell) since she was little. She even tells him you never met a monster you can't love. That's a metaphor for she is a monster, and he still overlooks it and still be her friend. And if you paid attention on the drawer that she opened it said L+N so she had to of liked him at one point.

  • @rajatchugg
    @rajatchugg Před 5 lety +266

    "You Never met a monster you couldn't love"

    • @alf1306
      @alf1306 Před 4 lety +12

      What about the monster under my bed

  • @carlrood4457
    @carlrood4457 Před 5 lety +203

    I think it's interesting that Newt is named after a fairly common animal (albeit one used often in witches potions) and his brother is named for a mythological figure who is most famous for killing a fantastic beast.

    • @joshbruce6699
      @joshbruce6699 Před 5 lety +24

      Newt's full name is Newton Artemis Fido Scamander. Newton, possibly after Isaac or someone in his family . Artemis, the Greek goddess of the moon and the hunt. Fido, again, possibly after a family memeber.. Scamander obvious.

    • @wickedshadowchester6297
      @wickedshadowchester6297 Před 5 lety +10

      Don't remind me that Newt's name is animal as well... My country literally translated his name to the animal....

    • @AmeliaEverythingBabyNames
      @AmeliaEverythingBabyNames Před 5 lety +8

      Newton nn Newt. Newton JKR likely chose to reference Sir Isaac Newton but the NN Newt is a great nn for his character. Also, Porpentina, Tina's name, is an old word that means Porcupine.

    • @lenastorm6280
      @lenastorm6280 Před 5 lety +7

      Joshua Bruce Artemis was not only the godness of the hunt, she also protected the animals and cared for them!

    • @sheerayb
      @sheerayb Před 5 lety +5

      Newt is named newt because she thought it was funny to have someone named "Newt Scamander" write a book about beasts, same as she has other funny names for the other authors on the list. I'm guessing "Fido" is also a joke (published in 2001, don't forget!)
      Theseus is definitely intentional.

  • @gallium4231
    @gallium4231 Před 5 lety +351

    Lol he said Leta’s death was the most important (since) Lily’s death but really
    It was the most important death until Lily’s death

    • @kavyadhakal_
      @kavyadhakal_ Před 3 lety +3

      AGREED

    • @user-es8kj1cw8e
      @user-es8kj1cw8e Před 3 lety +3

      lol

    • @conserztasfia0078
      @conserztasfia0078 Před 3 lety +1

      Well technically fb came out later then hp

    • @Lokear
      @Lokear Před 3 lety +17

      @@conserztasfia0078 Well technically Leta died before Lily was even born. They're talking about the timeline here, not the release order.

    • @jeremiahsanders6078
      @jeremiahsanders6078 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Lokear well technically in the video he was saying that with the release order in mind

  • @newsiesforever208
    @newsiesforever208 Před 5 lety +205

    I think it was both. One in a platonic way, one in a romantic way, but it's not specified which.

    • @djerykhornubis2466
      @djerykhornubis2466 Před 4 lety +12

      She can also love both in a romantic way...

    • @berrym7776
      @berrym7776 Před 3 lety +6

      @@djerykhornubis2466 yee but that'd be very VERY confusing

  • @cecagna
    @cecagna Před 5 lety +409

    Man, my boy Theseus "Chad" Scamander really got the short end of the stick in this movie. Tries to help his rebellious little brother and gets brushed off but gives unconditional help nonetheless. Gets utterly rekt and embarrassed by said brother's on-again off-again girlfriend. Finally, his fiancée confesses she loves his brother rather than Theseus himself and promptly gets toasted to a crisp. Hopefully he gets a good revenge arc in Fantastic Beasts 3: Actually It's Theseus with the Dragon Patronus

    • @kitkatboard
      @kitkatboard Před 5 lety +15

      I really hope this subtitle is canon.

    • @Melanie-gh1fs
      @Melanie-gh1fs Před 5 lety +15

      i love everything about this comment

    • @Gravve01
      @Gravve01 Před 5 lety +12

      I’m dying 😂😂 I love this

    • @tazcreates6280
      @tazcreates6280 Před 5 lety

      yo didn't think bout' that, he really got the back side of all of it

    • @tiffprendergast
      @tiffprendergast Před 4 lety

      Norskebanan yup

  • @Emrys91
    @Emrys91 Před 5 lety +170

    Can we point out how the blue fire hurt Queenie for a split second? Like she almost had second throughts. But then truely commited to Grindelwald

    • @novoeduardoac1248
      @novoeduardoac1248 Před 5 lety +5

      emrys the great Merlin!

    • @fyrirraan482
      @fyrirraan482 Před 5 lety +1

      Grindelwald his Name is Grindelwald...

    • @Emrys91
      @Emrys91 Před 5 lety

      @@fyrirraan482 taa ill edit

    • @fyrirraan482
      @fyrirraan482 Před 5 lety +3

      @@Emrys91 np😅 it's just funny Since I See it misspelled so often.... For me it's an easy Name to remember Since german is my native language

    • @fyrirraan482
      @fyrirraan482 Před 5 lety +27

      But I noticed her flinching, too and almost expected her not to be able to pass through for a tiny little moment

  • @zexonhairi7215
    @zexonhairi7215 Před 5 lety +49

    No one realizes Niffler was capable of walking through the flame because he desired the shiny blood pact and thus he ultimately desired grindleward whole heartedly

  • @tylerrobinson9562
    @tylerrobinson9562 Před 5 lety +781

    Plot twist she died for Tina

  • @joshuaalderson860
    @joshuaalderson860 Před 5 lety +152

    Gotta say I feel bad for Theseus he was a good character and seemed to be a good big brother

    • @insaincaldo
      @insaincaldo Před 4 lety +18

      I'm just hoping this makes him a tragic hero and isn't setting him up for a fall from grace.

  • @cmack465
    @cmack465 Před 5 lety +155

    Think about it :
    Newt is neutral until Grindelwald kills the woman he loves / loved, then he chooses sides and fights against Grindelwald

    • @elizakate7242
      @elizakate7242 Před 4 lety +5

      He loves Tina xD

    • @chrysavardali8513
      @chrysavardali8513 Před 4 lety +14

      @@elizakate7242 he always loved Leta but then they grew apart and he met Tina. I still think that he loved Leta till the end but his feelings had changed cause he was falling for Tina as well.

    • @ArcherWillows
      @ArcherWillows Před 4 lety +7

      @@elizakate7242 He loved Leta until they grew apart, and maybe split up without ever actually breaking up. He _does_ fall in love with Tina but that doesn't mean he doesn't love Leta. There is more than one kind of love. Newt loves Tina romantically and loved Leta as his best friend and also platonically. He still loved her, just not in the sae way as he loves Tina

  • @pokefairy8183
    @pokefairy8183 Před 5 lety +57

    Theseus is so precious he deserves better.

  • @randomperson8571
    @randomperson8571 Před 5 lety +10

    "Dumbledore and his Fantastic Beard" I laughed way too hard

  • @elliotdrew2937
    @elliotdrew2937 Před 5 lety +497

    Leta died for picket the bowtruckle

    • @isoltsayre4908
      @isoltsayre4908 Před 5 lety +13

      Again, another truth is revealed.

    • @moony_6769
      @moony_6769 Před 5 lety +6

      Elliot Drew so true tho I love pickett

    • @abigailgraham5562
      @abigailgraham5562 Před 5 lety +11

      She said "I love you" to Pickett.

    • @jackshelleyiguess4118
      @jackshelleyiguess4118 Před 5 lety +13

      J.K Rowling 50 years in the future: yes. That had been my plan all along. Oh, and picket the bow trickle is actually James Potter, with the niffler being snape. Oh! I almost forgot. Hermione was actually in love wth dean Thomas.

    • @bradleybishop7359
      @bradleybishop7359 Před 5 lety +3

      So true

  • @TheToneBender
    @TheToneBender Před 5 lety +801

    This is the FIRST time a sponsor for a youtube video intrigued me. And I watch A LOT of youtube.

  • @shabrinaikbar3175
    @shabrinaikbar3175 Před 5 lety +40

    And now I feel so bad for Theseus.........

  • @gavinlaxton5063
    @gavinlaxton5063 Před 5 lety +3

    "Mr. Scamander, do you think Dumbledore will mourn for you?" Oh Johnny Depp, chills.

  • @LittleDream99
    @LittleDream99 Před 5 lety +950

    Both. She loved BOTH.
    Romantic love is not the only kind of love for goodness sake! She loved her fiance romantically and Newt as her best friend with a family love.
    "I love you" applied to BOTH of them

    • @marahc5252
      @marahc5252 Před 5 lety +43

      YES YES YES

    • @annakomora4916
      @annakomora4916 Před 5 lety +39

      Was hoping someone said this.

    • @princessnikoblackwood4041
      @princessnikoblackwood4041 Před 5 lety +73

      she could also romantically love both of them

    • @zacharyaminoff9322
      @zacharyaminoff9322 Před 5 lety +31

      Little Dream I actually believe she meant ”I love you” to newt but said it to Theseus so it affected them both since we are never told who exactly it would affect

    • @luciaradanovicgomes4100
      @luciaradanovicgomes4100 Před 5 lety +30

      @@zacharyaminoff9322 I think that even though it isn't really clear for us, the magic would only affect the one she truly loved, because she knows who she is talking to. Unless she doesn't really know who she loves...

  • @ryanalex4671
    @ryanalex4671 Před 5 lety +282

    To be fair Voldemort also had a meeting of followers in a graveyard

    • @ladyalfhildrforestofvioletmist
      @ladyalfhildrforestofvioletmist Před 5 lety +18

      True. I guess it really just suits that dark villain aesthetic--especially when you call your followers "Death Eaters".

    • @silversamm
      @silversamm Před 5 lety +9

      Grindelwald's was not really the same kind of meeting, it was more of a recruitment speech while Voldemort was gathered with his sworn servants. If Grindelwald wanted to prove his good intentions of not murdering all muggles, he wasn't doing it in a very charming location at least.

    • @sjoerdyt9248
      @sjoerdyt9248 Před 5 lety +5

      That Probably is the reason Why Jk Rowling when writinh the script chose for a graveyard
      To wink back to original canon

    • @randomperson8571
      @randomperson8571 Před 5 lety +5

      ok but that was HIS family's graveyard, and also, Voldemort is a lot more creepy than Grindelwald, who at the very least wears nice clothes and has a nose. :P

    • @dabee8833
      @dabee8833 Před 5 lety +3

      randomperson8571 “And has a nose” you are now my favorite person 😂

  • @sammyd9718
    @sammyd9718 Před 5 lety +20

    I just always assumed it was meant for both Newt and Theseus

  • @michaellauritano5252
    @michaellauritano5252 Před 5 lety +21

    Definitely an interesting theory... If this was the direction JKR was going, I wish we got just a little more hinting. I've also been thinking about this whole sacrificial love thing and I really appreciated your explicit explanation of the important "choice" element. Is this is similar kind of old magic that might be connected to ideas behind the blood pact?

  • @RyelynCaster
    @RyelynCaster Před 5 lety +1443

    Fantastic Beards and Where to Find Them

    • @Holden_McHock
      @Holden_McHock Před 5 lety +37

      Fantastic beards and i cant move against grindelwald, it has to be you😢

    • @TM-yk8ub
      @TM-yk8ub Před 5 lety +14

      The Bronze Eagle
      I know where to find them, on dumbledor’s face!!❤️❤️

    • @Fantomyogurt
      @Fantomyogurt Před 5 lety +9

      The Bronze Eagle do you like Percy Jackson? I ask because of your profile pic

    • @itsnotaphaseitsaromance
      @itsnotaphaseitsaromance Před 5 lety +1

      Are you a ravenclaw?

    • @RyelynCaster
      @RyelynCaster Před 5 lety

      dragongirl 12 what makes you think that? 🦅 🔵

  • @davefeb1987
    @davefeb1987 Před 5 lety +319

    I think leta loved both newt and Theseus but in different ways

  • @tasete31191
    @tasete31191 Před 5 lety +6

    Leta: I Love You (to Pickett)

  • @VoteBidentoSaveDemocracy
    @VoteBidentoSaveDemocracy Před 3 lety +3

    Leta was talking to Grindewald when she said "I love you." 🤯

  • @rochoa88
    @rochoa88 Před 5 lety +482

    To quote my wife “it’s clearly Newt. If you have to question that you don’t know much about women”

    • @Azeleen16
      @Azeleen16 Před 5 lety +41

      Even if I am one ? 😂

    • @insaincaldo
      @insaincaldo Před 4 lety +12

      @@Azeleen16 If you have to ask, yes.

    • @Azeleen16
      @Azeleen16 Před 4 lety +5

      @@insaincaldo I don't, that's a rethorical question to underline that I disagree...

    • @insaincaldo
      @insaincaldo Před 4 lety +9

      @@Azeleen16 And I'm obviously claiming to better know not only you, but all of womenkind better then you do.

    • @pourartistacrylicsbyshanno3987
      @pourartistacrylicsbyshanno3987 Před 4 lety +32

      As a woman, I have to disagree. Women don't commonly marry the brothers of the men they love especially if when they don't love said brother... IMO it was both.

  • @emilycone4909
    @emilycone4909 Před 5 lety +323

    I disagree in one count. I think Leta died for both Newt and Theseus and was saying I love you to both. I think that she did love Newt but more as someone who saw her beyond her flaws. However, it is also clear throughout the movie that Leta does love Theseus. She is openly kissing him and in one scene genuinely seeks comfort from him. I think the dynamic of the three is that Newt introduces Leta to his brother, his brother got to know Leta the way Newt did and they fell for each other. Newt ends up feeling left out, which results in the awkward moments between the three, but it’s clearly the case that he doesn’t feel resentment towards them, just outside their relationship. Because of this both Leta and Theseus make numerous attempts to include Newt. Leta was saying I Love You to both and sacrificing herself for both because, while she could have technically saved herself by joining Grindlewald, it wouldn’t have been a life worth living when the only two people she loved were dead, and they would have died because she would have known there was no way either of them would have joined Grindlewald.

    • @magilviamax8346
      @magilviamax8346 Před 5 lety +5

      I agree about newt introducing her to Theseus which she falls in love, but imo that's exaclty the reason why she sayd i love you to him only . The ambiguity is just functional to the triangle between leta newt and tina for the audience.

    • @PKMNResearcherSkyler
      @PKMNResearcherSkyler Před 5 lety +26

      Perfect explanation. Besides we've already been shown that sacrificial love works for people they don't love romantically

    • @sydneyca
      @sydneyca Před 5 lety +5

      Thank you! I was hoping someone else had already said it since I'm a bit late. It is entirely possible to love someone with who you are not romantically involved nor related.

    • @fabiofuoco
      @fabiofuoco Před 5 lety +2

      Emily Cone “love y’all”

    • @evelyne1307
      @evelyne1307 Před 5 lety +10

      @Emily Cone I would like to agree with you but I have one simple argument to refute your theory : in the French adaptation, Leta says 《Je t'aime》 before dying, and that is a singular form. If she'd been saying it to both brothers, she would have said 《Je vous aime》. And since J.K Rowling speaks French pretty well, I'm sure it was meant to be that way and that it was not just a mistranslation. So no, Leta is not confessing to both Newt and Theseus, but to only one of them, most likely to Newt.

  • @neavegiannmoore2455
    @neavegiannmoore2455 Před 5 lety +6

    I need an “Also, Also, Actually, Actually” shirt please!

  • @detectiveprincegoroakechi4815

    I think she loved Newt but as she said early in the movie "you've never met a monster you couldn't love" meaning she knew he loved her and she loved him but she didn't think she was worthy of Newt's love because she loved him more than his brother

  • @jackwriter1908
    @jackwriter1908 Před 5 lety +506

    Leta's death is the most important death since Lily's death or is Lily's death the most important death since Leta's?
    Amazing video, I'm waiting for the next one already.
    But Harry didn't love everybody in the castle.......... That is so confusing.

    • @anikagoel2553
      @anikagoel2553 Před 5 lety +73

      Jack Writer he loved hogwarts itself so that protected everyone in it i think that was JK’s theory about it

    • @heleonard
      @heleonard Před 5 lety +62

      You can have unconditional love for a collective group of people. He loved hogwarts and he had love for those who chose to stand and fight beside him. The protection wouldn't extend to those who escaped because they wouldn't need it they weren't fighting, nor any slytherines in the dungeons because they weren't being attacked by voldemort and therefore no protection would be needed
      It is possible to love people you don't know, or have compassion and empathy for them. To include them in a group of people you wish to protect, and in doing so love them.

    • @owenalp1977
      @owenalp1977 Před 5 lety +1

      Ah cos let’s was before lily

    • @yiayfanaphmaufanpopularmmo5035
      @yiayfanaphmaufanpopularmmo5035 Před 5 lety +7

      He loved the castle, everyone inside the grounds made it what it was. Therefor saying that he “loved” everyone. Just not in the way most know.

    • @cecefernandes5657
      @cecefernandes5657 Před 5 lety +12

      I think it's similar to Grinderwald's fire. All those that truly loved and faught for Hogwarts that day was protected due to Harry's love of Hogwarts. He loved the feelings that came with Hogwarts, ya know? So those that had that love for Hogwarts were protected.
      That's my theory and thanks for coming to my TedTalk

  • @inessilva3909
    @inessilva3909 Před 5 lety +91

    *dumbledore and his fantastic beard*

  • @emilylittle3454
    @emilylittle3454 Před 5 lety

    I’m living for this whole video!!!!!
    Also, I was thinking this about Letas last scene but you described it better than I could’ve hoped for! Thank you!!!

  • @airishpenguin9387
    @airishpenguin9387 Před 4 lety +6

    Now I’m just gonna have a wild guess here and say maybe the fact she looked straight at newt and said I love you before she died sheds the light on who she loved lol
    Settled for Theseus
    Loved Newt

  • @mirjam7638
    @mirjam7638 Před 5 lety +42

    Did anyone else think that the scene of Newt holding Theseus back looked insanely similar to the scene in Order of the Phoenix when Lupin held Harry back?

  • @PaigeSinclaire
    @PaigeSinclaire Před 5 lety +132

    I think she genuinely loved both of them

  • @savannahbell663
    @savannahbell663 Před 5 lety +9

    J: "So totally weird having a concert in a tomb"
    Meanwhile in real world Paris they're totally having concerts in a giant tomb called the Catacombs.
    Yeah that's France for you...weirder than fiction

    • @elderscrollsswimmer4833
      @elderscrollsswimmer4833 Před 3 lety

      Plus, wizards totally have their events in places Muggles (almost) never go to.

    • @user-sx6rm9uu7q
      @user-sx6rm9uu7q Před 2 lety

      They legally allowed marrying corpses but they dont allow sport like MMA

  • @ishka8835
    @ishka8835 Před 5 lety +1

    Wonderful! More Harry Potter theories, right when I need to study for exams. I love you guys!

  • @crazyweirdgirl115
    @crazyweirdgirl115 Před 5 lety +107

    so would you say...you should never hire Grindelwald to plan your wedding?

  • @rachelmcnally8144
    @rachelmcnally8144 Před 5 lety +203

    Can we put 'also also actually actually' on a t-shirt?

  • @ricksmalldick
    @ricksmalldick Před 5 lety

    You guys are "AMAZING" (in J's voice) as usual! Keep up the good work.

  • @hanfeicao9130
    @hanfeicao9130 Před 5 lety

    Oh I just love your theories! It makes so much sense!!

  • @RangaBonsai
    @RangaBonsai Před 5 lety +143

    I really hope this is true. Leta's death was such a downer, her character development was so deep and interesting, and her intentions were always shady. If her death was a sacrificial protection, I think I can accept it. If not, it seems they killed off a great character with an interesting arch... for no reason.

    • @kysonchilds8635
      @kysonchilds8635 Před 5 lety +3

      George Gore or they will have some strange reason she comes back to life

    • @RangaBonsai
      @RangaBonsai Před 5 lety

      Kyson Childs no, just... no

    • @chaosdraconyx9832
      @chaosdraconyx9832 Před 5 lety +4

      @@RangaBonsai It could just be for the emotions of her death. When you really feel something in a movie, it usually makes the movie much better. That's why there is so much loss in books. You feel for the characters so much more.

    • @jesscooper3133
      @jesscooper3133 Před 5 lety +1

      I don’t think she is really dead I feel like somehow she survived and is coming back

    • @ishrarhasan8946
      @ishrarhasan8946 Před 5 lety

      @@chaosdraconyx9832 True but partially. Cause I believe that one can feel more via books too. So it's not a loss. To each to their own though.

  • @riripari2042
    @riripari2042 Před 5 lety +108

    I believe she loved Newt and when he didn't return that love she married the next best thing, his brother. In school she had an obvious crush on Newt. While he was nice enough to her as opposed to all the others that bullied her over her lineage it was obvious that he wasn't looking for a girlfriend at the time. It didn't help that he was hard pressed with showing affection unless when it came to his animal friends. I mean the guy cringes every time his own brother tries to hug him. I think that its pretty obvious that she loved Newt. To me she only said: I love you and not a name because she was directing it to Newt but didn't want to hurt her fiancé's feelings who so happened to be standing right beside Newt at the time. If she loved Theseus she should've had no trouble saying I love you Theseus. If she said I love you Newt then that would break her fiancé even more knowing that she didn't truly love him and he might've turned his anger onto his brother. So there you go.

    • @annafuller5310
      @annafuller5310 Před 4 lety +5

      Riri Pari is it not canon that newt is in love with her tho? I thought it was. I’m pretty sure it was leta that shut down their connection and never went further than friendship because she didn’t think she deserved his love hence the line “you never met a monster you couldn’t love”

    • @Erlinalol
      @Erlinalol Před 4 lety

      Your theory is great but I am sore that my mum said "I love you" to my dad(Theseus) .

  • @maito404
    @maito404 Před 5 lety

    I really enjoyed this video. Your facts where very well put together and the theory seems very plausible. 👍 good on you mate

  • @henriettaanneeles490
    @henriettaanneeles490 Před 5 lety

    11:24 I am so loving grindelwald's growl pur thing going on there

  • @debbiealden5515
    @debbiealden5515 Před 5 lety +61

    NEVER hire grindlewald to plan a concert! Omg can we PLEASE make this a thing!!

    • @thedragonwarrior5861
      @thedragonwarrior5861 Před 4 lety +2

      Grindelwald can't plan concerts, Voldy can't plan weddings,
      Villains really cant plan social events, can they?

  • @christie9790
    @christie9790 Před 5 lety +138

    i still refuse to believe that shes dead

    • @fabycortes1905
      @fabycortes1905 Před 5 lety +15

      Christie I know me too she’s my favorite character 😢

    • @yiayfanaphmaufanpopularmmo5035
      @yiayfanaphmaufanpopularmmo5035 Před 5 lety +2

      She might not be because she wasn’t classified yet. She might be a ghost, knowing Harry Potter, this is very likely. She didn’t want her leave her life. So she choose that.

    • @reknit96
      @reknit96 Před 5 lety +1

      I agree. I don’t think she’s dead.

    • @braydenc1791
      @braydenc1791 Před 5 lety +3

      lovethedancingflames you are dead if you are a ghost. What do you mean

    • @zdashti13
      @zdashti13 Před 5 lety

      She’s not my favorite character but I don’t believe she’s dead either. I’m still convinced she’s dead I was hella confused when she died so I’m not confused

  • @CloverRaina
    @CloverRaina Před 5 lety

    Love your videos they always cheer me up :)

  • @Stephanie-kh6nx
    @Stephanie-kh6nx Před 4 lety +1

    That makes so much sense! Thank you!

  • @almondpotato9483
    @almondpotato9483 Před 5 lety +12

    13:23 It would also give Dumbledore the opportunity to see Sacrificial Protection to give some sort of vague description to Harry. What I get from this line?
    Young Dumbledore: A savage
    Old Dumbledore: Vague

  • @isaacobrien4268
    @isaacobrien4268 Před 5 lety +321

    Do a video on the blue fire. The fire reminded me of the goblet of fire blue fire and it also kind of works the same in that it chooses who is worthy. Also avengers

    • @marc-olivierouellet2338
      @marc-olivierouellet2338 Před 5 lety +9

      its kind of a cool mix of fiendfire and the blue flames from gof

    • @quantumgirl3047
      @quantumgirl3047 Před 5 lety +5

      The fire is black in the screenplay. They only made it blue so we can see it on screen!

    • @yiayfanaphmaufanpopularmmo5035
      @yiayfanaphmaufanpopularmmo5035 Před 5 lety +3

      I was thinking that and it does go with what the goblet of fire is. Just a little bit more extreme in the consequences

    • @Fantomyogurt
      @Fantomyogurt Před 5 lety +12

      Quantum Girl like in the first book where Harry and Hermione have to pass through either purple (I think it was?) flames or black flames? Hermione took the first one and went back to Ron while Harry went through the black one and faced Voldemort.

    • @cecefernandes5657
      @cecefernandes5657 Před 5 lety +4

      I was thinking the same thing. Isnt it Dumbledore that casts the fire around Goblet too? Maybe they learned the spell together but used it for different means

  • @andsomadison
    @andsomadison Před 5 lety

    Really good explanation of Lily's sacrifice! Great vid as always

  • @SureshanSingh
    @SureshanSingh Před 5 lety

    I love this theory so much!!!!! Thank you SuperCarlinBrothers.

  • @MegaTxgal
    @MegaTxgal Před 5 lety +141

    I just wanna say, I've seen it four times and I'm 90% sure the auror who attacked the pureblood joined Grindlewald in the circle. Diabolical.

    • @bjdenil
      @bjdenil Před 5 lety +21

      Yes, I thought that too... He might have already been on GW's side when he killed her...

    • @lizdorsey3453
      @lizdorsey3453 Před 5 lety +24

      I thought that auror was actually Abernathy, and the whole killing was a set up to help Grindelwald.

    • @MegaTxgal
      @MegaTxgal Před 5 lety +9

      @@lizdorsey3453 I thought that the first time I went through it, but after the third time I was sure it wasn't. You see Abernathy in one of the four bottom of the steps area - there's Crawl, the girl, Abernathy and someone else. It's definitely someone else.

    • @alexpeng671
      @alexpeng671 Před 2 lety +3

      It says it on fandom, the auror was Cassius Bell and he indeed did go into the circle after seeing two other aurors die while disapparating

    • @aboveall9521
      @aboveall9521 Před 2 lety

      four times and you didnt know? pay attention

  • @Holden_McHock
    @Holden_McHock Před 5 lety +210

    Most significant death ***untill*** lily potter

  • @bookstosky
    @bookstosky Před 5 lety

    Really really intriguing and well thought. Amazing.

  • @paulahjelt2894
    @paulahjelt2894 Před 5 lety

    Awesome video, as always

  • @claramorganchun3166
    @claramorganchun3166 Před 5 lety +111

    I JUST REALISED HOW MUCH THE FIRE IN THIS MOVIE LOOKS LIKE THE FIRE FROM THE GOBLET OF FIRE(in the goblet of course) AND HOW BOTH OF THEM KEEP PEOPLE OUT. ONE KILLS AND THE OTHER ONLY PLAYS HARMLESS PRANKS. BUT OH MY GOD.

    • @dabee8833
      @dabee8833 Před 5 lety +3

      OMG I DIDN’T REALIZE THAT

    • @insaincaldo
      @insaincaldo Před 4 lety +5

      I mean yah, the goblet has blue fire, but that has nothing to do with the age line drawn to keep the younger students from throwing in their names.

    • @annafuller5310
      @annafuller5310 Před 4 lety +1

      2A Mina yeah but the age line is blue and kinda firey in the movie isn’t it? I think that’s what she was referring to :)!

    • @ihavelemonade5640
      @ihavelemonade5640 Před 4 lety +1

      And there is some kind of a binding spell too, if you think about it.

  • @vallentinac9513
    @vallentinac9513 Před 5 lety +19

    if snape didn’t ask to spare lily voldermort wouldn’t have given her a choice and therefore the protection wouldn’t have worked. so basically was snape that saved harry since the very beginning. awe. 🥰

    • @EAC1215
      @EAC1215 Před 5 lety +2

      Valentina Carella awwww

  • @Rachel-xu7jj
    @Rachel-xu7jj Před 5 lety

    This is the question I’ve been asking ! Finally somebody’s answering!

  • @HHLucifer666
    @HHLucifer666 Před 5 lety +4

    I think the main reason why Harry’s sacrificial protection didn’t have the same effect as his moms is because Harry isn’t a mom. We’ve heard why Lily’s sacrifice was more powerful and it’s because it’s a mothers love. It’s the ULTIMATE protection. The most powerful form this spell can take. Leta lestranges love for the scamanders was “imperfect” because she’s not there mother and that’s why the effects aren’t as absolute

    • @junior523
      @junior523 Před 2 lety

      That's silly. Love is love.

  • @charleshockenbury353
    @charleshockenbury353 Před 5 lety +131

    Harry’s, “mom sacrificed HIMSELF,” for him? Wow, that’s some very unexpected backstory on Lily

    • @ekyuppal383
      @ekyuppal383 Před 5 lety +1

      Whyy? 😂😂

    • @mozog1g2
      @mozog1g2 Před 5 lety +2

      @@ekyuppal383 the himself part

    • @spyderbyte4271
      @spyderbyte4271 Před 5 lety +6

      I caught that too. Surprised they didn't throw a caption up with a correction.

    • @starwarfan8342
      @starwarfan8342 Před 5 lety +9

      Sounds like something J.K. Rowling would do anyway lol
      Actually Lily was a transgender gay man

    • @molly3372
      @molly3372 Před 4 lety

      I heard him say it was I thought "there's gonna be Atleast one comment on this " 😂 I found one

  • @thesingingthing
    @thesingingthing Před 5 lety +125

    “Who cares about Theseus!”
    *...I care about Theseus*

    • @wackiekebab6482
      @wackiekebab6482 Před 5 lety +7

      nerd gasm That was my reaction too.

    • @randomperson8571
      @randomperson8571 Před 5 lety +8

      I know! He's a good older brother. Even though Callum Turner is younger than Eddie Redmayne and it's a little too obvious, but whatever.

  • @oliviaambs7524
    @oliviaambs7524 Před 5 lety +5

    This just proves how much love can overcome anything

  • @sienaparr9784
    @sienaparr9784 Před 5 lety

    I just KNEW you would make this video 😀 I had been wondering that and the first time I watched it I thought she was talking to newt

  • @sakurabender
    @sakurabender Před 5 lety +24

    Newt obviously. Although she was engaged to Theseus she was constantly reminiscing about her relationship with Newt. Tbh she wanted him to come to her and say that he still has feelings for her. Its why she tried to get Newt to remember things about their relationship that only they would know. I think she was engaged to Theseus through and arranged marriage since he was the oldest.

  • @MS-ns6ni
    @MS-ns6ni Před 5 lety +45

    Please do a video on Black family secrets (I feel like there’s so much we don’t know about the Black family. Especially the recurring instances of family members who seem to be gifted with Occlumancy (is it an inherited trait?), for example, Bellatrix potentially taught Draco, who himself is remarkably skilled at it, and Narcissa managed to hide the fact that Harry was actually still alive from Voldemort himself. Overall, I just feel like when it comes to a long-standing pureblood family like that, there are many family secrets, magical and otherwise, that need uncovering. And there are so many family members to look into, besides the ones mentioned, Sirius and Regulus could be fun to look into, as well as going higher up on the family tree)
    Love your videos btw!

    • @laartje24
      @laartje24 Před 5 lety +1

      Well to be fair. Inbreeding keeps genetic traids into the family. This goes for diseases but also for benificial traits.

  • @kattnip4460
    @kattnip4460 Před 5 lety +2

    I think Leta loved them both in two different ways.
    It's obvious her love for Newt stems from way down and is genuine.
    But with Theseus I think it was a friendship kind of love. I would assume they had to have gotten close if he proposed to her. He probably was there for in ways we don't actually know so I do believe she loved him just wasn't in love with him.

  • @AmarKelkar
    @AmarKelkar Před 5 lety +3

    That was easily the best explanation I've heard for the mechanics of the magical protection spell from Lily Potter!

  • @toszewjeloryb8398
    @toszewjeloryb8398 Před 5 lety +510

    I kan see JK Rowling watching all those Fantastic Beast theories& and thinking 'oh, that's a good one, I'm gonna use it in the next movie and say it was all planned out since the very beginning'

    • @rxjiembabtw1844
      @rxjiembabtw1844 Před 5 lety

      m.czcams.com/video/JVbnC9Q9pWo/video.html

    • @rickyclark2659
      @rickyclark2659 Před 5 lety +5

      Def cuz she never had any imagination herself

    • @thedragonwarrior5861
      @thedragonwarrior5861 Před 4 lety +26

      @@rickyclark2659 she created the Wizarding World by her self, 1st starting it on napkins.
      The girl's got loads of creativity, she could just like to put fans' ideas in the movies

    • @thesoloplayer7685
      @thesoloplayer7685 Před 4 lety +6

      @@thedragonwarrior5861 Still she says that Dumbeldore is gay without any hints. Whats the use of so much creativity

    • @arachnesakura9375
      @arachnesakura9375 Před 4 lety +24

      @@thesoloplayer7685 how did you not pick up on it? Dumbledore flat out stated he was enthralled with Grindlewald. they were so close and it broke his heart that he fled back to Bulgaria and went back to school at durmstang. that he couldn't bare the thought that he would have to be the one to take him down once and for all and so he didnt. he locked Grindlewald in his own prison and left him there to rot. a selfish mercy. He loved him as something greater than brothers (given his relationship hes always had with his actual brother Aberforth of course he'd feel that way) that would stay up most night sending constant owls back and forth planning to rule the world together. it was a young summer time romance that ended tragically and horrifically. honestly its down right Shakespearean. he even tried talking to him multiple times to stop the rule the world nonsense before the final duel ever happened.

  • @yellowbubble8465
    @yellowbubble8465 Před 5 lety +1

    OHMAGOSH!!!! Wokeeee ! Great video that blew my mind you've done it again SuperCarlinBrothers

  • @kasim7509
    @kasim7509 Před 5 lety +2

    I never thought of her death this way
    But when she says “go” or whatever to newt and theseus i was constantly remembering the scene where lily’s ghost in GOF telling harry to let go

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Před 5 lety +160

    Plot twist: She said it to me. Everyone loves the Supreme Leader

  • @douwe1995
    @douwe1995 Před 5 lety +17

    Plottwist she said 'I love you' towards Jacob and now he can do magic, hurray!

  • @hiphopsoccer6568
    @hiphopsoccer6568 Před 5 lety

    one of the best theories you have ever done.

  • @kasim7509
    @kasim7509 Před 5 lety

    1:06
    I’m SHOOK
    I think i already know where this is going and i love it

  • @rowanmiller6035
    @rowanmiller6035 Před 5 lety +94

    Has anyone noticed that the skull thing Grindelwald used looks a lot like Voldemort's future dark mark?

    • @fyrirraan482
      @fyrirraan482 Před 5 lety +6

      It did remind me of the hallstadt skulls.... They don't have room there for a graveyard so they keep the skulls of the deceased in an ossuarium. Many of them are painted and inscribed like the one Grindelwald uses as a pipe

    • @bookmouse770
      @bookmouse770 Před 5 lety

      yes, I noticed that too.

    • @thedragonwarrior5861
      @thedragonwarrior5861 Před 4 lety

      Weird

    • @jacimaatu8669
      @jacimaatu8669 Před 4 lety +1

      I noticed but I didn’t think much about it..

  • @shymisssky5211
    @shymisssky5211 Před 5 lety +16

    I really think that she cast a sacrificial protection but I dont think that her 'i love you' was for a specific brother. She very well could have, and probably was, refering to both scamander brothers as she did in fact hold them both very dear to her

  • @haleymdennison
    @haleymdennison Před 4 lety +2

    I’ve come back to this video after recently rewatching CoG. I’ve watched many theory videos on this saying she said it to them both or it was just Newt. Personally I think she did really love them both. I think Newt was her first love and she never truly got over him but I think she still did love Theseus when she was with him. I believe she got with Theseus because it was the closest thing to having Newt and she knew she couldn’t be with Newt because she thought of herself as a monster. However, after reuniting with Newt she realized that he had “never met a monster you couldn’t love”. After seeing that Newt would have loved her no matter what, it brought back all of her feelings and love for him. So when she sacrificed herself and said “I love you” I think she was saying it to Newt. Not because she didn’t love Theseus, but instead because she wanted Newt to know that she listened to him and she knew in her dying moments that she was not the awful person she always thought she was. She said it to him because she really did love him, but also because she wanted him, and only him, to know that he relieved her of her guilt. Now all of this being said, Leta still loved Theseus but he didn’t give her that relief and he didn’t give her that support like Newt did. CUZ NEWT IS A GIVER. anyways idk if anyone will see this but here it is. It’s also like 2:30 am so if I mixed up wording a little that’s why. Kisses!

  • @Darchangel50
    @Darchangel50 Před 5 lety +11

    6:10 "- and then his mom sacrifices himself for him -"
    I think his mom was a female lol

  • @Alex-uh7vz
    @Alex-uh7vz Před 5 lety +10

    I think that a movie surrounding the life of Leta being called the crimes of Grindelwald could be a hint that he is connected to her past. Maybe he influenced some big moments that defined her and leaving her broken like that is one of his crimes.

  • @cecefernandes5657
    @cecefernandes5657 Před 5 lety +16

    I think her death definitely counts as sacrificial protection. The real question is will the franchise recognize that and how will it be used? I know that once the brothers find out the truth there will be inner fallout

  • @dp321790
    @dp321790 Před 5 lety

    I just found my sons Christmas present!!
    We celebrated a Harry Potter themed party. He loves watching you guys with me 💙

  • @danielbucher472
    @danielbucher472 Před 5 lety +2

    Fantastic theories. Where do you find them? On this channel. Thank you for another amazingly well-researched, thoughtful, mind-blowing video.

  • @bentoth9555
    @bentoth9555 Před 5 lety +27

    As far as the idea of Newt being able to pass through the fire and pose as a double agent, I think that having two Dark Lords who are that blind to the idea of a mole in their organization would strain suspension of disbelief. Especially since, so far, Grindelwald seems far more competent than Voldemort about those kinds of things.

  • @intuneknitter4220
    @intuneknitter4220 Před 5 lety +10

    I think this is a really good theory, but I'll offer some counter points:
    -It might be that Lita didn't do it strictly out of love, but more out of obsession. It seems like her love for Newt was more to do with her inability to let go of the past.
    -I think Lita was sacrificing herself partially out of penance for her misdeeds in school (possibly also getting Newt expelled)
    -I don't think Lita is really a saint, but a bit like Snape. Somewhat redeemed, but a character with a lot of baggage. For this reason, I'm not sure the spell would have worked. It might even be that Lita was intending only to cast the spell, and it might be that the spell cannot be cast intentionally.
    -If you are going to point out that Harry died to cast the spell intentionally, I think he was dying with the goal of defeating Voldemort. I don't think he realized he had cast the same spell as his mother until he had talked through it with Dumbledore.

  • @jacksonmcnuggets7488
    @jacksonmcnuggets7488 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video ♥️

  • @aliviaslate8414
    @aliviaslate8414 Před 5 lety

    Ohmysweetgoodness at the beginning I was like, “No!! This may be the only video I do not like...” I was devastated, but I gave it a chance and now I’m not sad. I can like the theory, it just hit me all the people who died and gave me all the feels!!! Good job guys!!

  • @princessnikoblackwood4041
    @princessnikoblackwood4041 Před 5 lety +56

    it doesnt have to be one or the other. Leta could love Newt AND Theseus. and she could have been speaking to both of them.

  • @ashhinman1919
    @ashhinman1919 Před 5 lety +43

    Plot twist, she says it to the pizza delivery guy that delivered the actresses pizza behind the scenes.

  • @exitpursued6690
    @exitpursued6690 Před 5 lety +1

    I love this theory! It also offers an explanation for Dumbledore's understanding of Lily's sacrifice -- it's because he's seen this particular magic before! Love it. Absolutely think she loved Newt.

  • @cosmicriptid
    @cosmicriptid Před 5 lety

    Yes! That makes the script so much more exciting!

  • @vipunen88
    @vipunen88 Před 5 lety +6

    I think the arena at the Lestrange tomb, is for funerals. The coffin is placed at the middle of the room, where Grinelwald is standing. Moarning relatives are seated around it so everyone can see the corpse. After the funerals, the coffin, or whatever wizards use, is easy to move to its final resting place

  • @elizabethh.1686
    @elizabethh.1686 Před 5 lety +7

    "Mr Scamander, do you think Dumbledore will morn for you?"-Gellert Grindelwald. The key to the entire puzzle

  • @GerardoTonella
    @GerardoTonella Před 5 lety

    Love your shirt! Will you ever do a Cursed Child review (for the Play)?

  • @MjAwsomeSauceSkittle
    @MjAwsomeSauceSkittle Před 5 lety

    I screeched when that scene happened. I almost immediately started questioning who she said it to, and looked at Newt when it showed him and his brother.