WW2 SPECIAL PROJECTS THE SECRET UNDERGROUND JONASTAL SIII
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- One of the largest secret projects under joint command of the SS and the SIII under General Kammler took place in and around the Jonastal Valley in central Germany. It involved enormous underground tunnels, bunkers and vertical missile silos, and testing of nuclear bombs.
Over 30 thousands of prisoners were excavating tunnels in the valley but that is only the top of the iceberg. Hidden in the mountains valleys and under the nearby towns are tunnels, research and connecting tunnels, the extent of this operation is still unknown. At the center of these munitions plants and weapons testing facilities was the huge proving grounds where according to GRU reports and many eyewitnesses several nuclear bombs were tested. I will try to present the picture for you as I am my fellow historians take you through the towns and fields describing what was there and what is hiding underground.
And still today strange things happens there, spies and cover-ups. I suggest if you have not seen them yet, watch my previous episodes from Jonastal this may be the last history defying secret place of the war.
NOTE Several of the aerial photos I used was previously posted by Christel Focken, I had received these by 3rd party, but she entirely deserves credit for those.
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First off, I am a U.S. Army Veteran with six years' service in the Military Police Corps. I am also a retired Police Lieutenant with an additional twenty-two years before retirement. Let me float this hypothesis: Martin Borman, knowing the end was near and all the valuable technology the NAZI's had, approached the Allies with the proposition to give them, by that I mean the United States, all that technology, nuclear, missile, aviation and chemical/bio research, plus the scientists willing to continue the research, ala project paperclip, for the price of allowing Hitler to escape to Argentina and live out his live in exile. Possibly a similar deal was struck with the USSR. Maybe that is the dirty little secret everyone is hiding.
Well.. The evidence of M.B himself escaping and living in South America is overwhelming and the fact that his remains were "found" Anyone interested in this topic should go to the historian Mark Feltons channel and watch the series on M.B. I think most people will conclude that the official story is crap.
Sounds very interesting. I too wonder about the possibility - who arranged for the surendor of the U 234 to USS Sutton? Tgat guy in Switzerland, Dullas?
The reason the war dragged on long after it was lost was because the allies flatly refused a conditional surrender, they wouldn't then have allowed Hitler to enjoy a comfortable retirement in exile. The whole point of the war was the destruction of National Socialism, along with its main architect.
The show Hunting Hitler verify many
Conspiracy theories
Hitler died in 1962 in Argentina
CIA has all the documents
The 4th Reich is alive and well
Russia has Hitlers jaw bone
I was once Stationed at a Post in W. Germany that was known to have a significant underground complex where several different things were done. We were not allowed to see this underground, and for the most part it was kept flooded to keep people out. Many years later I saw that a large, and lengthy construction project took place there, and I believe that the complex was partially removed. today, where the rest of the complex existed, there is a very large Siemens Facility covering that area. Housing, and small businesses cover the rest of it. What you've shown here about Factories covering old underground facilities jogged my memory. I enjoyed watching this video, Thanks!
Such complexes are not removed easy, they most likely reinforced the underground tunnels and use them either for climate controlled storage, cooling or shelters. The only option to "remove" them is to fill tunnels with stones or concrete, otherwise they could cave in later
The Nazis probably experimented on live human test subjects down there. Or it was a secret facility for their flying saucer project. One of the two.
There is also a huge bunker complex in the Rhein-Erft district near Cologne.
This bunker complex houses a nuclear power plant from the Nazi era.
This was probably Adolf Hitler's hiding place.
There are many places in Ohrdruf, Wechmar, Bittstätt, Luisenthal, Gotha and Arnstadt with vast Underground areas non explored yet. We think there might even be one or more secret underground train tunnels still in use today (at least 40-60 meters underground). Team Delta measured 16 2/3 cycles 15KV electricity underground (This is only used by railway systems in Germany) and strange noises and vibrations like operating subway trains maybe the Army (US?) still uses an underground facility under Ohrdruf....secret subway route is supposed to go Weimar Erfurt Arnstadt Gotha Wechmar Ohrdruf Luisenthal and back.
Interesting.
If so, I suggest it is time to ask for a release of information from US and other governments
@@howardmorris5595 we should! Germany wont help at all because USA and/or UK does not allow it, not sure about Russia, France and Israel.
@@Schlipperschlopper Tino is in a great position to raise the question. He has a right to know how his government is spending his taxes especially 75 years after the original event. Imagine how much it would cost to run an underground US Base if your observation is tested and proven - mega dollars
@@howardmorris5595 I am also in contact with the US historian and former MIT scientist Dr. Todd Rider who runs the Riders institute of history. He and Tino should join all forces to getting more informations from the US authorities. You might also go to the Los Alamos museum and watch the original fat man and little boy transportation cart. This is a german construction too! We found out it follows exactly german WW2 special trailer plans made by the MEILLER COMPANY! (US Army got the trailers together with nuclear bomb prototypes from Ohrduf or copied them later) If you watch old HD Los Alamos photos you can even see those bomb carts/trailers had german axles and german rims but US made Goodyear tires...that raises questions over questions! (Meiller built most trailers for the Wehrmacht, SS and even the mobile V2 start ramps)
I love this series. Each episode something new.
Also when you mention facts already covered in previous episodes is greatly appreciated. Those little recaps help keep those of us up to date with busy schedules.
Happy new year love your work!
You're welcome I'm trying but yes I have found it important especially for new viewers who haven't had the time to go through the past couple of years of episodes to recap:-)
Thank you for all your hard work over these many years. Let's see if we can get the authorities to open up their stone brains to answer our questions.
Thanks!
If you want to hide a bunker complex, you empty it and destroy it. If you want to maintain and continue to use a bunker complex, you build large factories on it. With some of the factories listed that are on the area, I wouldn't be surprised if they are still using the complex. It's the "what are they using it for" that is the extremely curious part.
It’s the Nazis, they’re still down there, up to their nefarious goings on.
I’ve worked in factories in the west with similar bunkers - they a just too contaminated to be worth the cost of demolition.
And that was just a glue plant.
There is also a huge bunker complex in the Rhein-Erft district near Cologne.
This bunker complex houses a nuclear power plant from the Nazi era.
This was probably Adolf Hitler's hiding place.
Brilliant Work Tino ...The Jigsaw is becoming more apparent!
Noticed that in those fields you were are patches of brush growing . As an old farm hand the only time we left brush like that was if there was something in there like rock piles or big holes . If i had been there with ya , i would have had a look into every one of them . The reason the military isnt sharing with ya could be , they're still using them , perhaps for secure weapons storage . The one corner of the factories there now could easily be a front for the military . Trucks coming and going all the time day and night would simply go unnoticed by the locals
It’s the Nazis, they’re still down there, up to their nefarious goings on.
Notification activated. ready and waiting as always :)
Great stuff Tino, I will have a rewatch later
OMG!! Cant wait for Kammlers map notes!! Nice Teaser!!
Tino, please carry geiger counters and radon detectors for places like Blockhouse and Siracourt - with all those deep flooded levels, who knows what we (hope) you'll find.
i guarantee you he does
Just found this Channel a few days ago, and im suprised there is not more subscribers, such a great channel! Cant wait for more Blockhouse
Great Video it got me wanting and waiting for more on this topic.
Excellent! You are 300% correct :-))
Wow Tino your attention to detail is brilliant my friend have a exellent new year from Scotland to you and all on your channel...
Thank you, can't wait to see the next part
O bugger Mr T.
I missed the love chat. I sincerely hope you have an excellent new year full of findings and happiness 👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Thank you for sharing.🏆🤗🙏🇺🇲
I am sure we are going to be in for a treat with edition
When Tino gets a local expert to provide the normally lacking context, background and analysis these can still be informative. (As an added bonus, the experts here are miked properly and can be heard clearly- subtitles make this one a veritable bounty of information). Much better than our host’s insightfully persistent comments of, “Wow, this is a REALLY big tunnel,” which though factually true add no value.
Tino Struckmann have you ever thought that they might still be doing work in the complex underground and that is why they wont open the files?
It is beyond doubt that the Nazis had NO critical mass of Uranium for even one single nuclear bomb like they are known today. They would have loved to breed Plutonium in a Uranium reactor but as they had no technique to produce U-235 with at least 3,5 percent concentration, the would have needed heavy water from Norway and they did not success in procure ite from there.
But they were leading in hollow-charge shells. IF they had found a way to concentrate the temperature of those to start a miniature nuclear explosion (more than 100 million degrees Celsius for starting) using sub-critical amounts of U235, the powers to be would NEVER admit it, because all the minor states which today still have no access to nuclear technique, would start building the miniature ones. Imagine Saddam Hussein had some Gerald Bull not building his super cannon, but nice little nuclear bombs.
So I don't know what to believe.
thank you Tino. your videos are the best.
Great work and vid Tino.
The end says kammlers family shared some notes with you???? Oooooo 🤔..... thanks for your work Tino 🙏
Been believing for a while now the main Jonastal underground base powered by an atomic reactor that was built into it at that time. Or possibly multiple reactors? What's bizarre is the vintage atomic bomb shell game, like they don't know what to do with them, so they just hustle them around.
Cant wait for this one.
Where is the thanks button?
Bank account number is... lol kidding just keep watching
Thanks
Thank you brother I truly appreciate it and happy New Year
Thanks keep digging.
would you be able to put black out line on the sube titles as I have poor eye site I find it really hard to read them, I really would like to know what is being said thanks
Loving this. Looking forward to the next episode
Thank you Tino great information. Really makes one question what is underground in that area.
my resolution for 2023 ,i subscribe to your channel , i m passionate of history of ww2 and ww1 of course, your channel is the best for that in the world and youtube ,happy new year to you
Thanks for update. More please
Ok you have my attention but will have to catch it later as I am now on a major shutdown 14 hour day shift ☹️keep up the great work Tino 👍
RIP Maggie
Sounds to me that many of the mountains or hills around might link up tunnels, it being such an important place. Whole area of may be three miles around it needs looking at. I expect the Americans got the info on it when they talked to Speer before he was captured.
At 36:14, I don't think it is a total coincidence that the same Fritz Winter who had a foundry there was given permission after the war to restart his business at the grounds of the former DAG and WASAG factories in Stadtallendorf.
I worked there for many years starting in 2000 and a lot of the factory was still in original overground bunkers and there was even more underground access on the property and the whole city.
Its all covered up now, but someone probably made pictures of how it was or even what they found.
From the " Wild West of the 90's " to Factory complexe's sitting on top of Tunnels and heaven knows what else , and Mercedes is serious money with a lot Power behind it , great Vid Tino great way to spend the 2nd last day of 2022 ..hope 2023 gets more results..
HUGE fan!
I mostly go and “visit” coldwar / Franco eara bunkers…
Really fascinated by the end of ww2 atomic research, But I just can’t Shake the feeling that alot more went on that we have been told, and I love that still to this Day Discoverys are trickling out secrets.
I wish we could know the truth about the german atomic research, and also that the last “secret” sites Can be dug out, like bergkristal Sub levels, and the ss shooting range undergrund bunker… I bet those sites will tell US alot more!
You go Timo! Awesome work.
Love from Denmark.!
Do think these guys disappeared by the U.S. government ?
There is also a huge bunker complex in the Rhein-Erft district near Cologne.
This bunker complex houses a nuclear power plant from the Nazi era.
This was probably Adolf Hitler's hiding place.
Tino, you are providing a great service to your followers. One cannot imagine WHY this information is being covered up, & by whose order. This is bullshit. As you stated, there is NO reason WHY , after 77 years the true story cannot be told to the entire world. I am astounded by the underground construction efforts, & the fact that Germany had built & tested at least three devices. If one reflects upon on these things, if the war had carried on just a short time longer, I believe Germany could have won the war. While I have no interest in living in a world run by the likes of the NAZI party, I feel safe in saying that the likes of Putin would never have been a problem. NO, I am NOT a NAZI sympathizer , nor am I a Communist, but the Nazis would have executed all the leaders of the Soviet government , from Stalin on down, & set up a Nazi style government. We were perilously close to losing the WW2. I admire your work Tino, & I wish you every success in your adventure of discovery for the truth. Happy New Year.
The only problem Putin caused most of us was selling us fuel cheaper than everyone else. But maybe you were speaking for Ukraine? They certainly keep the Nazi ethos alive.
Good work as always! There is a lot of underground evidence of high radioactive activity in Jonastal with modern day activity in main tunnels exceeding 150uSv/hr. It is evident that there are no truths in the official records.. Your work is invaluable in trying to unearth the fabrication of the official records… Keep safe!
Go for it Tino! Don't let go!
do you think that there are one or two "houses" or "buildings" which look normal but in fact conceal a secret entrance? Like we have in UK hiding entrances to many UK military sites used or not used?A clue would be they are not in habited? But look maintained?
Hi, Tino, I just stumbled on your site the other day and I have subscribed and I find that most of the videos I've been seeing are from months to a couple years old. I Didn't know that Germany actually had an active nuclear program under way, although I had heard of a lot of munitions factories and even air craft production facilities being located at the War's end. Thanks for showing us this formerly secret infrastructure. God Bless and stay safe.
Absolutely fascinating stuff. Well done, Tino! 👍
Tino, many thanks for this documentary. I hope one day you would write down all this work in a book...
I wrote a few books but let's wait and see what we find at the end of the tunnel otherwise I would just be writing gossip sadly
Best one so far.Very interesting! And some say history is boring!!
1:02:17 Kudus for the Kammlers family. 🗺
Tino + Mecki beide zusammen... Top!!!
+ CHRISTEL !!!
Your channel is awesome I look forward to seeing your new videos all the time 🎉🎉🎉 keep up the great work 😊👍👍 take care and God bless 🙏🙏❤️💯💯👍👍
It may be previously told in some what but not by our friend Tito that is why we want to hear all about it.
Never give up bro. When dealing w the arrogance & incompetence of government, it’ll take more than committed competent dudes like you. An organized, funded , w some connections, is the only path to kicking down the door that covers up the past. The cowardice and CYA of gov won’t respond to logic, fairness and a commitment to “do the right thing.” It’ll take a little more, but I appreciate and respect your work in seeking the facts of history. Thx brother.
The Postal Service of Germany had a Nuclear research project? . Was that a way to hide the fact of the program?
The postal service also had the most advanced computer in Germany at the time.
Crazy idea. What if those underground water waterways/canals were used not just to test ordinary torpedoes BUT purpose built ones with atomic warheads in mind?
Nuclear warhead miniaturisation capability was still a long way off but what if the groundwork was started there? Which is probably why the Kriegsmarine was involved?
We should make donations to pay company to find out what it was
There is also a huge bunker complex in the Rhein-Erft district near Cologne.
This bunker complex houses a nuclear power plant from the Nazi era.
This was probably Adolf Hitler's hiding place.
So much secrecy still up to this day…
Even with most of the people who could or can be indicted not around anymore, why keep up with this covering up what was history and can not be rewritten.
Why not get it out and learn lessons from it ? ! ? !
But as of these days small groups with the power and money to be able to make the changes are still having issues with the truth and their involvement in it, no wonder the truth is hard to handle !
But keeping my hopes up high somehow and some day the truth wil come out, again not to blame but to take lessons from it !
Tino, keep up the good work, visiting and investigating those places and hopefully someday the bigger picture will be visible !
u r a legend i m look out to see the real deal about all the history and secrets about the ww2. grtz from holland
Get as much as you can done buddy I love this s***
Thank you :)
FYI the Little Boy bomb dropped on Hiroshima was about 15 Kilotons not 15 tons.
I think a lot of the things removed from here are on lists that may or may not be in the hands of the C.I.A., or N.S.A.. I'm sure they collected information crucial to the reunification documents, and would substantiate many of these claims, and disprove other (outlandish) claims. More and more wartime documents are declassified as requested, and not advertised.
Man can we get you better camo ucp is just an eye sore love your work Tino 😂❤
My guess is it was a leaking power generator so when you found the radiation and reported it you made the technicians aware of the leak!...
M.O.S.S.A.D. !! THATS WHO CAME ! YOU CAN'T DIG ,BECAUSE THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHATS UNDER THIS REGION , ILL BET ITS STILL BEING USED IN SOME CAPACITY!
At 38: ish. It's an emergency exit, OR the opening to a crematorium!!!
3:09 official drawing of a US Titan II ICBM launch complex. These were based in Wichita, Tuscon, and Little Rock. I was a launch officer for 5 years in the 70s.
So, remembering knowledge is ammunition, i can't help but wonder what knowledge someone thought would be worthy to be denied the general public and for what gain exactly?
1. Nuclear waste handling (glassing)
2. Nuclear power application (cheap most energy for the masses (poor people in the first place))
3. "War never changes": a lie told thousand times becomes truth: You give me $1000 dollars and I repeat a thousand times "I owe you no 1000 dollars"; then we sit down and discuss this "proverb" again, okay?
4. What if the war indeed changed face: Economic warfare, Public opinion warfare (social networks (-webs?)), National education warfare - non military forms of aggression and warfare in short?
God speed, Tino 👍
One aspect may be the "as above,so below" or "history repeats itself" consider how much technology we "looted" after the war. Now consider how much we replicated/duplicated as well. If massive underground bunkers/cities existed then how much more so now? Just think of those massive incomprehensible black budgets and missing monies. Some questions are best not asked in the first place.
@@dananorth895 The only wrong questions are those that weren't asked IMO
I quit asking a long time ago. Now I rely on research logic and intuition. That and a lifetime of learning history and human nature.👍
Wikipedia article on Fritz Menzer: (What do you know about Werfen?)
"He remained as an adviser cryptologist in the defense until the end of the war, which he did not experience in Berlin, but together with part of the OKW/Chi under the direction of Wilhelm Fenner in the south of the Reich, in Werfen. On 23 April 1945, OKW/Chi was officially disbanded and the staff was assigned to the General der Nachrichtenaufklärung (GdNA) [5] Just before the American army reached its location about 40 km south of Salzburg, they burned their documents or threw them into the Salzach. With the capitulation of the Wehrmacht on 8 May 1945, the service was terminated for all former members of the OKW. Menzer was captured and interned at the US camp Neufeld near Munich".
my hypothesis ,the v1 and v2 factory is intact with prototypes etc and of course a lot of nuclear artefact, no acces certainely too secret recherche ,actually maybe a secrete base for new weapons or of course there is in place a real ww2 germany bombe activate and its a big problems if not possibility of désarme this prototype, obvioulsly just hypothesis , after 77 years no secret is possible for the memory of victimes of war ,and pow of war etc,you are right ,thank for your engagement for this and of course please excuse my english
Just like with Dora the Americans had a chance to take a lot of important things before the Russians took over the area I'm sure they did the same thing here and then covered up or disguised what was left but the huge tunnel systems Under The Proving Grounds the Russians must have found them and used them and possibly in some case handed them over to the German Army in 91
@@tinostruckmann i absoulety agree with you
30m deeph and no water , relates ther is a unknown sort nuclearbattery for divers alike pump , or a seldom rift cave geologi . What ingineers as sicentits relate to the place?
Your caption need to stay on screen longer
maybe lidar recording of the area will clear something or an analysis of the flora in the area..
The enormous concentration of mining, refining, industrial and academic facilities here since at least the 1920s (when radioactivity was known but before the critical nuclear experiments) would have given the German/Nazi program an enormous advantage over the U.S. purpose built, but greenfield facilities at Oak Ridge, Hanford and Los Alamos. The folks had the hands on trade and engineering knowledge that academics like Heisenberg lacked. The communications bunker may have been the precursor of Cheyenne Mountain! The Nazi's had distributed research like DARPA, but the mining, manufacturing and engineering was apparently concentrated here where the Radium/Uranium mines (and fundamental research in nearby Vienna) were. The Nazi's clearly knew about Uranium why else have a "Uranium Club"?
I would love to work with you on this project!
How disappeared/vanished the radioactivity at this place, where you measured up?
There might be a Tunel below with a machinery which causes such radiation which was immediately turned off or maybe there was some High Active Stuff laying inside which was transported out or the Tunel was flooded, there are many possibilities.
@@pvcfsdevkidforcryengine1.432 That could be a reason.. they reported also a machinery
there are a secret place to launch v2 in the forest of nieppe, bunker etc
😊❤👍
Was Conrad Zuse in nearby Austria? It is said Zuse visited Mittelbau-Dora, but went to "Austrian Alps" which conceivably could be close to here. History is ambiguous about whether Zuse sat out the war in Austrian mountains or whether his Z4 computer was used in bomb calculations like U.S. ENIAC. -- UPDATE -- NO -- but I stumbled on Fritz Menzer in cryptography.
That looked like the punji stick traps I build in the PNW woods to catch deer hunters. Human niku tastes much better than venison. Good eats
Underground Railway!
A warning to the curious.Should you be considering expanding your forensic activities don't go looking for evidence of chemical use in Germany/Poland, the truth is no defence.
No of course not the truth is the adversary nobody wants to know this except 98% of the civilian population around the world
That’s for sure (7:31) lying to Stalin was not beneficial!
it was not very Healthy ;)
the allies had the 1000 plane air raid on erfurt and many other missions,to bomb bindersleben airfield,and also the monstary believing erfurt was a gas producing site
I think the Institute for Radium Research in Vienna would have been involved in the enrichment of Uranium.
We have lost so much and in such short time....... Makes you think how ignorant we are about lost Civilisations before us
Just a thought….. is it just a coincidence that new factory infrastructure has been built on some of these sites that just happens to be the very same businesses who were there or very much involved during the war?
Or is it something a little bit more financially motivated? Did those businesses invest heavily into these places during the war and now that Germany is its own country again the companies have a “legitimate” claim to “their” wartime facilities?
It is a common theme in western capitalist societies that big business control governments to some degree.
Nothing ever happens by coincidence :-)
@@tinostruckmann yes! you are bang on the mark there! Just watched your nazi gold video…. That is just an awesome bit of work. Keep up your efforts I have no doubt you are correct on so many things….
If you were above ground getting a reading of radioactivity then below ground through the reinforced concrete the amount of radiation would be too strong for anyone to be able to get close to it and move it. it would have to be on some type of motorised trolly.
running away from a bill...is that a thing?
@TinoStruckman Has Anyone ever checked the cancer rates or deaths and causes of such deaths in the area where any nuclear tests could of been done or detonated....?? If alot of deaths or if there where high cancer rates of those living in that area... Well that says alot.
Someone is collecting enough to create a dirty 8om8
What’s an 8om8?
@@damonmelendez856 B omb ?
@@pvcfsdevkidforcryengine1.432 Yep, sorry to be cryptic, if I spelled it out correctly youtube could've flagged it and censored it.
39:00 “wouldn’t wanna be in here if bombs were dropping.” Would you rather be standing outside?
Haha you said thereafter “better than being outside,” so I retract my question. I really enjoy yer work, thx. If ever in Seattle check out the Museum of Flight, you’d diggit.
Thank you...
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