What Happens When You Lose in Unlosable Nintendo Boss Fights?
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- čas přidán 9. 08. 2022
- There have been several boss fights in Nintendo's history that are meant to guarantee the player's victory. So, what if we lose them?
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Bosses
Glass Joe (Practice) - Punch-Out!! Wii
Bowser - Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
Lord Crump - Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Ado - Kirby's Dream Land 3
Starman Junior - EarthBound
Negative Man - Mother 3
Tutorial Fight - Fire Emblem
Catching Tutorial - Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, SoulSilver
Cloud N. Candy - Yoshi's Story - Hry
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I like the idea that Dawn was so confident to catch the pokemon. Then passed out in the grass. Then when she regained consciousness she was like "I caught it, right? See... I am the best"
I am more concerned with how people are being koed from their Pokemon being defeated.
@@OmniscientWarrior emotional damage?
@@OneHundredFiftyTwo They just pass out from the idea that they lost, what I find confusing is how random strangers (even the bad guys) will take you to the pokemon center no matter how far away it is
@@doozy5184 "Professionals have standards!" --The Sniper (TF2)
@@doozy5184 have you watched the show? Im pretty sure they just call the PokeCenter, and Joy sends out her Blisseys to retrieve you and your pokemon on a gurney
The fact that the Thousand Year Door tutorial battle, which is supposed to be _unlosable,_ has a _loss condition,_ just shows the foresight of the developers.
Extra fun fact: Because jumping in water (even the fountain in that one area of Chapter 6) hurts you for 1 HP, it's possible to be below 10 HP at the start of that battle. If you get to 0 HP from jumping in, you die just as normal (and Life Shrooms won't help you), but if you're at 1-4 HP upon starting the tutorial battle, the game will set your HP to 5 so you can't lose even if you miss every action command.
As for why it works, I wouldn't pin it on the foresight of the developers-to my knowledge, there's only one kind of battle in the whole game where you can lose and not get a Game Over (Chapter 3 story battles, in which case you're restored to 1 HP and carry on just as if you had run away-this includes Bowser but not the actual Chapter 3 boss), and that case is probably handled in its own way.
@@meta04 I agree, it doesn’t seem like developer foresight but just how the game handles dying in a battle. Thanks for the cool info by the way! Always love finding TTYD fans
Most of these things aren’t developer foresight, but rather bug-catching code. When you program something, you don’t code just for how the program (or game) is intended to work, but also to catch any instance where a user trying to use it in unintended ways could break it.
That was my dad’s whole job for a long time. He was a software tester. He spent all day every day trying to break people’s code so that they could make it stronger before it was released to customers. The same thing happens with game testers and major game companies. Even if a catch-all line of code didn’t get it, a bug in software testing (like 1 hit kos on every boss) definitely would have.
What do you mean by loss condition?
In Mother 3, if you lose the rematch with the Mole Cricket in the Mole Cricket Hole, you actually get a bit of different text when you encounter him again and he says something along the lines of "You lost on purpose didn't you? Let's have a fair remach".
Imagine being bad and the game thinks you lost in purpose
@@durokelnutrio6146 well at that point on the game he does 1 point of damage while you got about 300-400 hp per characters and you one hit him. Alot of the bosses in Mother 3 have slightly different things to say when you lose against them. The only way to loose to him is to block for along time, or to get poisoned down to 1 hp.
6:37
Game: _"Dawn blacked out!"_
Dawn: Giggle... See? Isn't it *N E A T* ?
She's just demonstrating why you need a Pokemon before you're allowed to travel out of town.
She blacks out, and you're standing there awkwardly
She just wanted the show the nature of her name
Maybe she has fun fainting.
Maybe she's just slightly unhinged.
QUINCY SON OF *Q U I N C Y ?*
Lyn: **gets killed**
Also Lyn: “Victory!”
Now move to the opponent and select seize
*enemy turn
*enemy turn
@@iamhuman6033 *Endlessly loop*
She is free of her mortal form, yet remains in the land of Elibe. She is free.
She’s being an optimist
Jester be like
I love how in the thumbnail there's text for most of them explaining why they're unbeatable, and then Negative Man is just "Negative Man"
For been no to lose.
@@IvanFranco120 what
@@IvanFranco120 what
@@IvanFranco120 what
@@felipo_galaxy1853 Wut? O_o
Referee: Knockout!
*proceeds to assert dominance*
Doc : How I stop this thing ?
Adolin
Adolineee
@@gaurangikaul7410 shut up
Next time on Punch Out Ball Z...
Most of these either softlock the game, give a regular game over, or just continue as if everything is normal. What about fights that are nearly unlosable, but have actual programmed behaviors to handle losses?
One example is the Apprentice from Super Mario RPG, who wants to join the Snifit Trio by beating you, but is pathetically weak and is practically impossible to lose to unless you are trying. If you lose to him though, the game does not end - he actually runs off and becomes Snifit 4! Not only this but it spawns a new Apprentice, and if you lose to him he becomes Snifit 5. There can be up to 8 Snifits before the last one fails since they aren't taking any new members.
None of this changes the game in any way, but it's neat that they actually programmed in all this stuff that a normal player would never see, and they didn't even have to - they could have just given it a regular game over like with any other enemy.
That's really cool
There's actually a character in pokemon games' battle tower that actually uses the games' algorithm to make a team for you to easily defeat.
Most games that have nearly unbeatable bosses you're meant to lose to still just play the same cutscenes and all that even if you beat the boss you'll just often get an item that is only attainable through beating the boss on the first go, demon souls and dark souls are good examples, if you beat the asylum demon the first time you see him you get a hammer that cant be obtained any other way, it's easy if you make your starting gift firebombs
@@losthighlandergreer6830 Another example: Gades from Lufia 2 is a fight you're supposed to lose, but you can get a nice powerful weapon if you actually beat him...but he'll just party wipe you in the following cutscene if you do.
@DoctorNovakaine 1=:=⇐---Figu ran ;... Yo,
In other RPGs it's uncommon to lose tutorial fights
_In Shin Megami Tensei it's uncommon to win tutorial fights_
Really? I heard those games were hard, but damn.
@@neowolfKai I mean, they gotta make the tutorial about what you’ll spend most of the game doing, right?
@@arashikou6661 That's a good point.
@@neowolfKai not uncommon to win that's hyperbole, but you can genuinely die there. SMT nocturne has a pretty infamous tutorial battle in hard mode where you can just be killed before you can even act if the opponent crits, because crits not only increase damages but also gives an extra action (once per action) letting the opponent just maul you to death if you're unlucky. And since ennemies are stronger and have higher crit rate in hard mode (I think? don't quote me on that actually) the tutorial battle become genuinely scary.
This is actually a speedrun reset point and it's 15 minutes into the game (the run is 9h longs), I don't know what the odds are there, but I'm pretty sure it's above 30% to die at that fight lol
Ah yes I remember thinking smt4 was gonna be chill game and then the first actual boss handing my ass to me, turns out it's basically the game saying go crazy with their weakness and drop their attack down unless you like one hit KOs
Lynn: Gets defeated
Also Lynn: Starts roleplaying that she wasn't defeated in a semi-psychotic episode.
Pulling the good ol' Don Quixote stunt
Kirby: *dies*
Adelenie: now you are my canvas, hold still.
You can actually lose the Starman fight in Earthbound WITHOUT CHEATS. If you grind yourself up to level 13(?), you’ll learn PSI Shield. If you use PSI Shield while fighting the Starman, it’ll overwrite Buzz Buzz’s shield, allowing the Starman to one shot you. You’ll black out as normal and get sent to the last location you saved at being your house, and you’ll actually be able to skip the fight altogether and progress completely normally
EDIT: Thanks for the likes guys!
@Shoka Lgbt Oh for sure, you’d have to hate yourself to go through that
@@thatonelad9416 I recognise that pfp...
You don't actually need to go back to fight Starman Junior after getting a game over, you can just walk straight to Pokey/Porky's house and progress the story without any consequences.
So play to lose? Damn
@@iaminsideyourwalls2021 If you know, you know
I love the fire emblem one. The game is like “you’re so bad ima just play the game for you”
bisexual = no opinion
Dawn is out of Pokemon... Dawn blacked out
Also Dawn: „see isn’t it neat?“
I actually got stuck at the Yoshi's Story boss shown here when I was younger because I took the text box literally. Didn't even try licking.
LMAO
sounds about right
Same here, I was stumped back when I actually had this game 😅
And that's why even henchmen should believe in themselves
What a good kid
I have had an Earthbound glitch where Starman JR just straight killed me lol.
Buzz buzz is just a fly you expect him to be faster than a robot made by extremely smart aliens
@@crazycanyon3028 he is a special fly tho
A fly? I suppose that's possible. He only says re: that, "A bee I am... not." $:^ }
Spoilers
He wasn't always a fly, he had to be one so the phase distorter doesn't kill him immediately, just how Ness and friends had to be turned into robots to fight Giygas.
@@ParodyKnaveBobHe's actually a beetle though, judging not only that dialogye but also how Pokey's mom yells out "EEK! A DUNG BEETLE!" before killing Buzz Buzz
Even when Mario is downed, Luigi can still win by doing absolutely nothing 😎👍
What a freeloader
Luigi is simply an god of victories for doing nothing...😅
@@IvanFranco120 except against ghosts. He’s always petrified around those.
@@IceBlueStarCat He still accepts the challenge no matter how scared he gets
You can now play as luigi
With specific ivs, natures, and high rolls, it’s possible for the zigzagoon to faint the ralts but it’s extremely rare
"Oh... A perfect Pokémon just wiped the tutorial guy out. Imma pretend I didn't do that." -Pokémon games
Edit: Corrected word choices because I was half asleep for this.
@@superwhatevergamin9634actually while nothing happens if ralts dies if Wally's pokemon dies then it glitches out.
2:36 that art is honestly really charming.
That's the SNES Hal used for this Kirby proyect...😅
Kirby is like: Can you stop?
Yeah
Was kinda adorable tbh
mhm
Poor bidoof, he looked so puzzled when he couldn't attack but then gets randomly scratched by a dead unknown assailant. Didn't deserve that scratch
Gotta love how Mario RPG’s unlosable boss fight immediately results in a game over
Really? What if just skip them?
@@IvanFranco120 ?
1:12 the fact that Mario just says "No!" and gains back a health point lmao
Lol
Fun fact: In Pokemon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald (not shown in the video), the capture tutorial is between Wally using Norman's Zigzagoon and a Ralts. These Pokemon spawn with randomized IV's. Normally, Zigzagoon uses Tackle twice, Ralts uses Growl twice, and Wally throws a pokeball to catch Ralts.
However, with a Max Attack Zigzagoon and mininum HP and defense Ralts, and also high-damage rolls on the Tackle, Ralts can faint with no external modification!
The game just continues as normal, however.
Has anyone computed the odds of that happening by accident?
On a Pokémon Emerald randomizer playthrough, Wally got a regirock.
As you might know, Regirock only knows explode.
Nevertheless, he still managed to catch the level 49 Primeape
What?
Wdym what
It automatically gives him the Pokémon after the battle
Ah yes
Randomizer
On my Pokemon Diamond randomizer, Lucas found a fucking Rayquaza in the catching tutorial, that used Hyper Beam against his pokemon, it was hilarious
if you manage to grind until ness learns shield, you can actually lose the fight after buzz buzz casts psi shield by casting the regular shield. this shield will cancel out buzz's shield which makes you vulnerable to starman jr's psi
he's just standing there… MENACINGLY!!
This is how you catch a pokemon
*blacks tf out*
See, easy!
I wish that could actually happen without changing the script. It would be hilarious to see that in a playthrough.
Here’s to ones that we lost
Cheers to the wish you were here but your not
@@kelpoiscool 'cause the drinks bring back all the memories, of everything we've been through
Toast to the ones here today
2:06 - I had that happened to me actually on the actual game itself. Mainly cause i was feeling a bit showy. Never thought I'd lose so easily but also just be shown the curtain on my way out.
It’s one thing to lose to Glass Joe. But it’s even MORE pathetic to lose to a HOLOGRAM of Glass Joe
In the gen 3 catching tutorial it's possible for Zigzagoon to OHKO the wild Ralts if the two Pokémon have a particular IV combination
More fun when zigzagoon ohko a shiny one
4:48 The Starman wins without doing absolutely nothing
Ness had a cardiac arrest and died
Lyra: enters battle and immediately loses
Also Lyra: see just like that
i cant get over how much negative man looks like spongebob
LOL. 😂
@@IvanFranco120
What
2:31 mutually assured destruction.
6:14
Damn, I didn't know blacking out was cool, thanks Dawn
I love how in the Kirby one he just becomes a canvas
Just gotta love how punch out wii is the only game that actually broke
Holographic glass Joe just wanted to dance for the rest of eternity
Negative man is now non-depressed!
"That was just a fluke..."
I still have no idea why they made that Boss...
@@EEVEE_fan16 trolling? It has the most hp out of all enemies. It’s not a boss officially
5:17 Oh no what happen to SpongeBob, Squidward tentacles must be in this again
I find you everywhere
The Kirby one was adorable
Lyn: gets KOed
Lyn: I see this as an absolute win!
Ado: You've tried your best Kirby, now let's do that again
Fun fact: if you tediously grind for a while in onett before the starman junior battle and learn shield alpha, you can use it during the starman jr fight to override buzz buzz’s shield and be vulnerable to starman junior’s PSI attacks.
The ref just watches as Little Mac slowly collapses to the floor
My friend told me if you lose your first fight against Hop in Pokemon Sword and Shield (when you first get your starter), it'll just repeat the battle again until you win (tbh you would have to deliberately try to lose since Hops starter is always at a disadvantage type wise to your starter)
He Has two pokemon tho (still easy but you get what i mean)
@@EEVEE_fan16 Hop youre literally the brother of the champion how could you lose
this isn't true, the game continues as normal if you lose. you just get some altered dialogue about your loss
2:35 It’s a DRAW 😂
Yes. But still counts as losing the Boss Butch mode.
So...
▪︎ Punch-Out Wii Practice/Hologram Fighters: Softlocks the game
▪︎Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga Bowser Tutorial Fight: Softlocks the game
▪︎ Paper Mario TTYD Lord Crump Tutorial Fight: Game Over Screen
▪︎ Kirby's Dreamland 3 Adeleline: Kirby gets painted on by Adeleline
▪︎ Fire Emblem Tutorial Fight: Lyn gets Thanos'd & the game eventually softlocks on a repeating "Enemy Phase" message.
▪︎ Earthbound/Mother 2 Starman: Game Over Screen
▪︎ Mother 3 Negative Man: Game Over Screen
▪︎ Pokémon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum Catching Tutorial: Nothing
▪︎ Pokémon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Catching Tutorial: Nothing
▪︎ Yoshis' Story Cloud N. Candy: Current Yoshi gets captured
Boss: You’re supposed to win against me.
Hacks: Allow me to introduce myself.
Player: *loses*
Boss: NOOO, YOU CAN’T JUST LOSE A TUTORIAL
Player: haha funny hacks go brrrr
Idk man cuphead's tutorial stumped reviewers
Hacks: 👍😎
0:42
*S T A R E*
Oh god he’s T-Posing on us
He's asserting his dominance
6:26 first time I've ever seen that text
You usually see that in double battles.
I remember I once saw a hacked catching tutorial for Pokémon Emerald, the Ralts used Explotion, and the script was modified to make fun of that
Still, as catching tutorials are unlosable, it all continued as intended
Link pleaseeee
@@TheToastBunnyProductions it's in Spanish, and only shows the battle and some edited script
Also most of the video he speaks about a Rom Hack he made long ago with a team
Still, here it is: czcams.com/video/rW2dQDg255M/video.html
Wow, it's so funny see how many battles are so easy that devs didn't even consider that a player might want lose them in purpose and didn't give them a special lose screen, or even a simple "Game Over".
Lyn be like "I am bleeding! That means I am the victor."
3:56, you’re still worrying me Lyn.
Ado in Kirby, heh, like, it's then like an anti-game, because you are the little creature and then she is the human that dies when she touches you.
Neat video! Thanks for uploading!
2:00 *ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!*
Lyn is having a freaking aneurysm
Seeing how many times fire emblem for the GBA has popped up is making wish I could play it for the first time again normally that genre isn’t my type of game but this one drew me in and I got immersed into it and had to save all my allies that I could since I didn’t know they had permadeath in the game so I went and restarted my first playthrough
Now its the complete reverse of winning battles in one turn, where normally its imposible...😅
“Mrs. Puff. I don’t feel like I really did anything.”
Dawn : "Let me show you how it's done !"
*proceeds to black out in front of a Bidoof*
My favorite example of something like this is from Undertale, where if you lose the fight against Toriel, she displays a shocked face for one frame before your soul explodes.
Goat Mom: I am trying to help you. Just go upstairs and... OH SH-
*Brrt. Bwawawa*
Don't know that game, but it doesn't sound like it was meant to be unlosable if they programmed a reaction to it?
It is meant to be unlovable because if you get down to 1 hp, her attacks avoid you.
0:40 the answer is, the guy that say knock out just T poses for the rest of the game.
3:33 average Lyn enjoyer when she at least does 1 damage
in pokémon games, almost always if they fail, the person will go on like the caught the pokémon anyway. it’s hilarious
damn, never thought these fights were loseable
1:06
I immediatly lost my Mind and freaked out dancing
Catchiest Shit ever made!
Hey, at least Cloud N. Candy is harder than Roger the hold right until you win Ghost
Actually I disagree! At least Roger pushes back and has Shy Guys slowly pushing him to the left. Cloud N. Candy is definitely way easier
@@Larszard Hmm, learn you can just press right vs. simply spam the tongue button...
Hmm has anyone used hacks to teleport to the right of Roger to see if the shy guys kill him for you when they reach the ledge?
The Kirby one is so cute! It's like a lite version of getting dunked on. I love the art!
4:24 broken event shenanigans like this are commonplace during the making of rom hacks
I think…
Yeah, sometimes, they get so bad, that they break the rom you use! Like one time, I just made a custom magic animation for fun, but for whatever reason, it made the rom crash so hard and corrupt it, that I had to get a new one XD
Fe Gba hacking is an awsome hobby tho
@@maxximo2367 same XD
Once your game begins in Paper Mario: TTYD, you can simply just fall into the water to lose 1 HP and also end your game once you’re out of HP before going into battle; so it’s no surprise to me that the game ends normally during your first battle/boss fight. There’s a save block provided for your convenience. Hehe…
Basically the things happening are
Either you softlock
Or you just die like you would in any other battle
And the people of the catching tutorials just ignore they lost
The first Fight with The Gekko From Majora's mask is Actually Unloseable, It's first phase at least, so I Don't think that would count
The Gekko?
@@sapphiredagon Yup...That Frog Mini Boss
@@FishronCatFurryBoi which one? I can’t figure out what you mean.
@@DreadeDragon Woodfall
Great bay One Is Actually A Annoying Fight than a Hard one though
@@FishronCatFurryBoi ok, I may be being stupid, but I can’t remember a gecko. Could you be more specific, like when or where you find it? Is it a boss, or just an enemy?
Imagine losing a fight to a hologram
Only to have the referee stand above you in a T pose to assert dominance.
You just included the Yoshi "death" sequence to bring back our childhood PTSD. The yoshi story fight wasn't un-loseable and as a kid playing the game it wasn't a hard boss battle but it wasn't like a tutorial "can't lose" situation. Now I'm stuck thinking of a horrifying childhood memory I had put out of my mind years ago.
"The Pokemon catching tutorials are scripted to never fail"
_Laughs in Yellow version._
Although that one fails because the Rattata escapes the ball and then flees. The Old Man doesn't actually use a Pokemon in that tutorial either, so you can't actually force him to lose by KO.
negative mans gonna be like " huh i actually won? looks like i have to be more confident with myslef"
4:31 If you have PSI Shield and use it in the battle, it also works. Sorry for the bad english...
2:17 when the paint brush kid hit Kirby . Kirby take damage but paint brush kid also dead by Kirby doing nothing
Lyn: I am bleeding, making me the victor
1:43 ye you’re awesome doing nothing
Finally, a gaming video with my skill level
Nice
I imagined a monkey lightly scratching a beaver before dying.
I didn’t even know that practice fights existed
I love when you mess with the Pokémon catching tutorials, but what if dawn doesn’t have any pokeballs?
I really love the Madeline picture
Dawn: (blacks out)
Also Dawn: See, isn't it neat?
lyn: *dies*
also lyn: VICTORY!
“How’d I do, coach?”
“You lost to a laser light show.”
One thing you didn't show was the opening boss clash with Bowser in Super Mario RPG, if you just keep attacking Bowser and take hits from him for a while, then Mario will collapse and you'll see "...Game Over!"
That was the first turn-based kind of game I ever played. I first enjoyed it for a while as a 90s hard copy rental. Then I got that game via DLC on Wii and played it through fully. And I'm looking forward to the modern design redo on November.
3:25 "Victory!
Good stuff, though I don't know what you expected to happen when you purposely lost to Cloud N. Candy. =P
Yeah, that's an easy fight but not a scripted-to-win fight.
The ref T posing on you for losing a tutorial fight takes it for me.
Fainting to a wild pokemon in catching tutorial is actually a good outcome in randomizer speedruns. In RSE when either Wally's pokemon or whatever replaced Ralts faints the tutorial ends instantly. In gen 4 they still throw a ball if the wild's hp reaches 0.
Pokemon diamond really was my childhood... when i was younger i got a nintendo DS and played it on there. I still own the DS and the save file
Fun fact: you can actually lose the buzz buzz fight without cheats, if you upgrade enough to get the first shield PSI, and change buzz buzz's omega shield to your alpha
You can die any time in Yoshi's Story by pressing Z+L+A+B simultaneously. There's actually a high score strategy in the game that involves losing all but one of your lives and then clearing the stage on your final life. And using that button combination is the quickest way to end your current life.