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    ✨ Midjourney Cref Deep Dive - Midjourney V6 Character Reference Parameter!✨
    Midjourney's Character Reference is a huge step toward creating images with characters that are truly consistent with a reference.
    Watch this video to learn how to get the most out of Midjourney's Character Reference parameter --cref. I walk you through everything from the basics of Character Reference, unique applications, and creating images with multiple reference characters.
    This video was a bit of a beast to put together. There are so many nuanced ways to use Character Reference, so please let me know if you have any questions about it.
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    00:00 Intro
    00:32 Basics: How to Use Cref (--cref)
    01:31 Multiple Scenes and Poses
    01:52 Character Weight (--cw)
    03:00 Using Cref on Midjourney's Website
    03:33 Transfer Character to Different Styles
    04:24 Using Character Ref with Style Ref (--sref)
    05:24 Non-human and Abstract Characters
    06:09 Multiple Characters (Four Methods)
    08:25 What Makes a Good Character Reference?
    09:08 Tips for Character Posing
    09:35 Wrap-Up
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Komentáře • 86

  • @woollyferncreative
    @woollyferncreative  Před 2 měsíci +5

    What is your favorite Character Reference workflow? How are you getting your best results?

  • @SoloKrauT
    @SoloKrauT Před 2 měsíci +5

    Simply wow, this is the best structured midjourney tutorial regarding the --cref feature. Thanks.

  • @user-os9eo7he5o
    @user-os9eo7he5o Před 20 dny +1

    Thank you! Everything turned out great!

  • @SuperMunQ
    @SuperMunQ Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great examples! Thanks!

  • @Sofia_Solo
    @Sofia_Solo Před 2 měsíci +1

    This video helps so much! Thank you!

  • @squalematic
    @squalematic Před 2 měsíci

    Simply fantastic MJ tutorials! Subscribed!

  • @AI-ew2ml
    @AI-ew2ml Před 2 měsíci

    Brilliant video, loved the structure and all the examples. Thank you!!

  • @heartshinemusic
    @heartshinemusic Před 2 měsíci +1

    Hi, thanks for a great deep dive video.

  • @chevonhicks4815
    @chevonhicks4815 Před 11 dny

    brilliant, thank you!

  • @thewebstylist
    @thewebstylist Před 2 měsíci

    Luv your vids, M$ MJ master! 🎉👏🏻✨💯

  • @mu.castro
    @mu.castro Před měsícem

    Best tutorial ever 👏🏽👏🏽. Thank you

  • @IvanKramer
    @IvanKramer Před 29 dny

    wow. you are such an amazing speaker, so EPIC this was. So clear. Thank You!

  • @RetropunkAI
    @RetropunkAI Před 2 měsíci

    excellent video, chock full of info and in record time. well done. subscribed.

  • @ademdemirci88
    @ademdemirci88 Před měsícem

    Pretty good video, thanks

  • @jimcrawley7363
    @jimcrawley7363 Před 2 měsíci

    Excellent work! I consider myself very knowledgeable, but took away some very useful ideas/approaches from your exploration.Thank you!

  • @pjbinh3217
    @pjbinh3217 Před měsícem

    thanks a lot. Your video is just awesome!

  • @CristianParodi
    @CristianParodi Před měsícem

    nice tutorial :) Thank you

  • @spartanmediaworks
    @spartanmediaworks Před 22 dny

    Thanks!

  • @TheJuiceboxlol
    @TheJuiceboxlol Před 2 měsíci

    You are the best CZcamsr on Text-to-image stuff

  • @stephanieli2877
    @stephanieli2877 Před 2 měsíci

    thank you!!

  • @BigBrainBlitz
    @BigBrainBlitz Před 2 měsíci

    this is great---What I am struggling with, and perhaps you've covered this, is that ability to have characters doing specific actions. I am creating a video made up of images + narration and I'm struggling to get my characters to do specific actions. Seems like they are always just posing. I know I need to do a deep dive into mixing (1) images as prompts and (2) describe and play with image weights. But perhaps you have some best practices you recommend. Thanks!

  • @nightfiremediagroup
    @nightfiremediagroup Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great video, clear as always and very encouraging! So you weren't having the distorted features problem? Your photo-realistic characters all look super consistent. (Mine have NOT. 😄)

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Thanks so much! I still notice some distortion in the results that I got 🙂. Slightly thinner or rounder faces, bigger nose, hair not as thick or curly, etc. Some characters definitely worked better than others though. I notice the most significant distortion when using external non-midjourney images.

    • @nightfiremediagroup
      @nightfiremediagroup Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@woollyferncreative A lot of my characters got decidedly more "cro-magnon." It was definitely not cute.

  • @Creativei2024
    @Creativei2024 Před měsícem

    Amazing tutorial. Can you provide guidance on how to maintain a consistent character when using photos (family portrait)? I've tried uploading single/ multiple pictures to create some artwork, but the --cref option isn't accurate with photographs.

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před měsícem

      Yes, --cref works best with images that were created by Midjourney.
      With some effort though, you might be able to get a Midjourney AI version of each person you upload. Use /describe on the uploaded image to see how Midjourney describes the image of the person. Then, use your uploaded image as an image reference (URL at the front of the prompt), followed by a Midjourney-inspired description of the person. With this approach you might be able to create an image that will give more successful results when it is then used as a --cref. No guarantees, but it's one way you can try to improve your --cref results when using an image of a real person.

  • @BigBrainBlitz
    @BigBrainBlitz Před 2 měsíci

    great video, well explained. I'm creating a story in video format using images and I'm struggling a bit getting my characters to do specific actions. I'm able to use text prompts + an image reference that shows the action but I lose all the stylistic consistency for the story. Even when using SW of 1000. Any ideas? I realize this might be too much to ask of MJ at this point...maybe version 10? ;-)

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před 2 měsíci

      @BigBrainBlitz if you are losing stylistic consistency, try using some of the images that do have the style you want as Style References with the --sref parameter. Showing specific poses and actions is a lot of trial and error, unfortunately. Hopefully, they will come out with a better way to do pose references someday.

    • @BigBrainBlitz
      @BigBrainBlitz Před 2 měsíci

      @@woollyferncreative Yes--I used a reference image with the style and even pumped up the SW to 1000. It just refuses to pick up the style. Also played with image weight. Even at 0 it favors the position over the style--it really feels I have to choose the pose I want OR the style I want....maybe in version 10? ;-).

  • @manaclepig
    @manaclepig Před měsícem

    Thank you for a brilliant tutorial about using cref. - as well as your other videos. Something you didn’t mention, and is something I’ve also addressed directly with midjourney, is an issue when using cref and wanting a full body imagine. I have tried various prompts over various hours to no avail. The images midjourney produces distort the body proportion or they only show 3/4 of the body in the result. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you again.

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před měsícem

      Yeah, including "full-body" in a prompt doesn't always work. My first tip would be to full describe the outfit and include the shoes. This will try to force Midjourney to make a full-body image. I'll try to address things like camera angles and portrait vs full-body images in a future video.

    • @manaclepig
      @manaclepig Před měsícem

      Thank you for replying. Yeah, it’s something I do is describe the outfit and the shoes, but strangely the figures still come out disproportional.

  • @muckach9872
    @muckach9872 Před 2 měsíci +3

    no matter what i do (even with 2 photo uploads) im getting someone older and NOT me and its always same character !

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před 2 měsíci +3

      Yeah, unfortunately the Character Reference feature doesn't do well with externally uploaded images (I'm assuming that's what you're doing from how you worded it). I tried uploading a selfie and what I got didn't resemble me at all 😆. Cref works best with images made by Midjourney.

    • @Kelvinapplegate
      @Kelvinapplegate Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@woollyferncreativeI have the same problem with an older woman that I created in midjourney, every time I try to recreate her older. I probably wasted about $30 working on one picture so far. 😢

    • @muckach9872
      @muckach9872 Před 2 měsíci

      @@woollyferncreative yes i did upload a selfie with clear bg, busy bg,white bg, black… 😅
      I took selfie with my laptop,mobile,…
      The funny thing is ALL the photos generated is same person no matter what prompt i use !!
      But Its not me for sure
      I even generated a model then tried to edit the face
      Guess what? It gave me same person! (Not me!)

    • @TheKamrenB
      @TheKamrenB Před měsícem

      I assume this is because external reference images do not have a descriptive prompt attached, whereas MJ images can

    • @MAMAvsGOD
      @MAMAvsGOD Před měsícem

      @@Kelvinapplegateexperience is not a waste . Once u get it you will progress with greater knowledge. 30 60 90 all cheap for what you’ll learn & earn . Blessings!

  • @SophieArasse
    @SophieArasse Před 21 dnem

    Hi Woolly, Wich soft do you use to avec your little Icon in the vidéo when you screen shot your video Please?

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před 20 dny

      I use the software ShareX for screen recording and edit all of my videos in Adobe Premiere. Hope that helps!

  • @MadnessAI8X
    @MadnessAI8X Před měsícem

    if cref already
    can cref again with vary(region) because face doesn't match 100% then must cref again

  • @emmathomason7136
    @emmathomason7136 Před 16 dny

    This is a great tutorial. Thank you so much. I’m struggling with the pan function, when I pan left or right and try to input the information to add a person with a cref, it pans, but there is no new person in the shot…any tips?

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před 16 dny +1

      Sounds like you are following the right approach. Try adding --chaos 15 to the end of your prompt when you are panning. This will force Midjourney to make the results in an image grid more different from one another. Sometimes this helps get it out of a rut, if it's not doing what you want. The chaos parameter takes values 0 to 100.

    • @emmathomason7136
      @emmathomason7136 Před 15 dny

      @@woollyferncreative I’ve managed to get a second person when I pan. Thank you so much! I’m now trying to pan to the other side to add a third person with cref, but the scene stays empty, do you know if its possible to use this function to add a third?

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před 15 dny

      In theory, adding a third person should be doable by panning in the other direction. I haven't tried putting more than 2 crefs in a scene yet. Hopefully you can get it to work!

  • @SolveForX
    @SolveForX Před měsícem

    What I think is really needed in the community is 1) style consistency - we have that. 2) character consistently - we have that. And 3) picture to pose, which….I feel like I keep struggling to find a good tutorial on that for Midjourney.
    Without camera angles, without perspective and capacity to form the angles of each image, we can really generate proper compositions that are designed by us, the creator.
    Do you think, if such a thing exists, you could combine these three things into a tutorial? Because I feel like that is the missing link from Ai creator to finished creation.
    What MOST of us want from Ai is the illustration craft capabilities. But as creators we want to be explicitly involved in the creative process. If we can use pictures of posed models, toys, even ourselves that we can then upload into Midjourney and then apply that style consistency and character consistency, we will have arrived at the new era we’re all searching for.

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před měsícem +2

      Agreed! And I think we're heading that direction quickly. Midjourney will likely be entering the 3D space this year and with that should come the ability to better control camera angles. If I come across a more consistent way to get specific character poses, I'll definitely put that into a tutorial.

    • @SolveForX
      @SolveForX Před měsícem

      @@woollyferncreative love it! Keep us posted! :)

  • @jmg9509
    @jmg9509 Před 2 měsíci

    There should be an option that reduces the probability that the character is looking directly at the camera. E.g. --clook [0 - 100], where clook is camera look.
    I know there could be way better combination of words than "camera look", but just an example. Couldn't think of anything lol. I know there are ways to get them to look at other objects, it's just way inconsistent and you slam through GPU hours trying to get to the image you want.

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yeah, I haven't done a thorough experiment to see which words or phrases give the most consistent correct/expected results. I run most of my jobs in relax mode, otherwise I'd burn through my hours in a few days or less 😆.

  • @RankReview
    @RankReview Před měsícem

    Thanks honey

  • @annaguettabi3974
    @annaguettabi3974 Před měsícem

    What if i already have my own drawn character? How can i load it and use as the base character?

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před měsícem

      Yes, you can upload an external photo in Discord or on Midjourney's website and then use the link to the image as your --cref. You might not get an exact replica of your uploaded character, but should be able to get something similar.
      There's a short section of this video czcams.com/video/RYcGacwrnPA/video.html that shows you how to upload to the website. For Discord, just drag and drop your image into a Discord channel, right click on the image, and copy link.

  • @fgarcia975
    @fgarcia975 Před 10 dny

    @woollyfern how did you get the option to change the text when panning right?? I've clicked it and it just generates.. no option to type in new info. Also I've held the button for a couple seconds, nothing. 🥺🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @fgarcia975
      @fgarcia975 Před 10 dny

      Oh! Found it! You have to type in /prefer remix to turn on remix mode... That'll give you the option to type in new info when pressing pan

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před 10 dny +1

      You got it! Yep, you can also check your default settings anytime by typing /settings in Discord. Enabling Remix Mode allows you to change text input when you pan 👍

    • @fgarcia975
      @fgarcia975 Před 10 dny

      Now the issue I'm having is that, after typing in new info and adding the cref of the second character, I get nothing. Just the initial character on one side and the newly panned side is just a continuation of the scene 😮‍💨

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před 10 dny +1

      It can be tricky sometimes. Try adding --chaos 15. Chaos values go from 0 to 100. Sometimes Midjourney needs a little push getting out of a rut when it's not doing what you want and adding chaos can help.

    • @fgarcia975
      @fgarcia975 Před 9 dny

      After several attempts (like 50)... I discovered that adding the words "standing next to her/his friend" and then pressing "pan" finally created the second person

  • @lucy-917
    @lucy-917 Před 2 měsíci

    when i use the vary rigion,it doean't allow me to use cref ,I want to replace one of the two characters,so need to use vary region and put cref URL,but can't add the uil on,I don;t know why ,I used to use this function but now it stopped,anyone else here met such problem?

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před 2 měsíci

      @lucy-917 double check the spaces and formatting in your prompt when you have the vary region window open. For example: my prompt text here --cref imageURL
      Needs a space before the two dashes. No space between the dashes and cref. A single space after cref before the image URL.

    • @lucy-917
      @lucy-917 Před 2 měsíci

      @@woollyferncreative thanks very much,yes you are right,i just did as you said ,but it didn't work,I wonder if there are other restrict?i want to make a screen shot to you but can't add here,thanks anyway

  • @kayskreed
    @kayskreed Před měsícem

    For some reason the cref parameter isn't respecting my character's age. I placed the picture of a young woman as a character reference, which was made in MJ, yet for some reason it keeps de-ageing her to that of a preteen, even younger. It's not respecting the bone structure or maturity of the face at all. I even specified in the prompt that the photo is of "a woman". She looks eight or nine at most, down from perhaps twenty. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před měsícem

      Ugh, that can be frustrating. Do you have any other images of that character that you can try? If not, try making some Variations of your original image and use those. Sometimes including multiple image URLs with --cref can help. I'm not sure how old the woman in your character reference looks, but maybe try including "college-aged woman". Or if Midjourney is really intent on significant de-ageing, perhaps "middle-aged woman" could result in a young woman 😄.

  • @maxdeniel
    @maxdeniel Před měsícem

    ON DISCORD,
    how can I get the URL of an image created ON DISCORD?
    It constantly give me this message: "Image denied Request cancelled due to image filters".
    An it works it does not recreate the same character.

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před měsícem +1

      To get the URL of an image you created with Midjourney on Discord or one you have uploaded to a Discord channel, you can right click the image and select "Copy Link". Then you can use that link to your image in a prompt.
      Sometimes the image filters can be overly sensitive, and unfortunately the only way around it is to try a different image.
      Re: results not looking like the CREF - if you are using a non-Midjourney image (ex. a photo of yourself) as a Character Reference, it does not work as well. It's best if your CREF image was created by Midjourney.
      Hope some of that helps!

    • @maxdeniel
      @maxdeniel Před měsícem

      @@woollyferncreative Thank you very much, it turns out that when you want to copy the URL for the image, it should be copy from the image as it is on the chat (once is uploaded), because if you chose the option "open on the web" or if you make the image bigger by tipping on it and then copy the ULR it struggles to get the info. In addition to the fact that you get more accurate results IF first you create a value for that image through the "/prefer option set" function.
      Thanks again!

  • @MarcinDiering
    @MarcinDiering Před měsícem

    - - cw 0 doesn't work for me at MJ website :| it makes error

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před měsícem

      What's the error? Make sure there are no spaces between either of the dashes and the cw. There should only be a space between --cw and 0. So like this: your prompt text --cref myURL.jpg --cw 0

    • @MarcinDiering
      @MarcinDiering Před měsícem

      @@woollyferncreative I commented before I realized I could hover mouse over the inscription to read the expansion :D I had to use picture as cref to use sw in prompt. It doesn't do well with my pictures. I want to try with illustration now.

  • @amitnatty4923
    @amitnatty4923 Před 7 dny

    whats the prompt for 1:15? how did you introduced a man to the subject that’s awesome, please the prompt.

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před 7 dny +1

      Did you have the wrong time stamp? The prompt used at 01:15 is shown.

    • @amitnatty4923
      @amitnatty4923 Před 7 dny

      @@woollyferncreative opps my bad 1:50

    • @woollyferncreative
      @woollyferncreative  Před 7 dny +1

      @@amitnatty4923 here you go :-)
      Prompt: 35mm color photo of a barista standing outside of a coffee shop. she is talking with a male friend. --ar 3:2 --sref s.mj.run/pTBMUHtyJzY s.mj.run/otfzIs9AMR0 --cref s.mj.run/uckGT-_rmcw

  • @osayomoreogbemudia
    @osayomoreogbemudia Před 18 dny +1

    Midjourney Is not free