Thanks for the video showing the difference. I appreciate how you didnt just trash the competitors but laid out pros and cons and sold your product well.
My Sumo Springs made all the difference for towing. I really like the simplicity and the fact that when the boat and Caravan are not on the hitch they are inactive.
Liked the video explanation of the SumoSprings. It gave all the reasons why I put them on my new 2021 Ram ProMaster 3500 van immediately. Excellent product and a "must buy."
I put them on my 2019 Promaster. I removed one of the factory leaf springs to lower the rear for a even stance and make loading motorcycles easier. I then added the sumo springs . Perfect!
I just received mines in for the front of my motorhome, I can't install them, yet the dealer has it now for warranty work, but as soon when I get it back, they will get install the first chance I get. I will be getting the one for the rear also, but the beginning of next summer, awesome product.
@SuperSprings International Yes sir I still don't have my MH but when I get it back I will install the front and I will be buying the rear sumo springs.
I have air lift installed on my 05 4runner and it’s good when fully loaded especially in the highway. Loaded with family stuff going to the beach for a 5 day outing along with 2 bikes on a rack. However when truck is empty it is so hard it feels like there is no suspension even with the minimum psi. I will try this product in the coming springtime.
Jim, the Sumo Springs that I have on my F150 4x4 sit above the axel one inch and do not engage unless under load. When under load they engage and make all the difference in rear end sway, corner lean, and squat. However when pulling the RV the ride stiffens up and bumps in the road feel more solid!🤣👍 Not so much with the boat, it has half the hitch weight.
Just what I was looking for.....Seems that the air bag solution would require more maintenance than the SumoSprings...The less maintenance I have to deal with the better...Looking to install SumoSprings in the spring...Thanks again..
I’ve got the 1500lb springs (SSR-207-47, I think??) on my 2500hd. I got ‘em on sale and couldn’t beat them for the price. They’re not obtrusive at all under normal driving conditions.
@@SuperSpringsInternational I would find this video after I had another item that everyone was telling me I needed, oh well maybe after mine fail I'll order your amazing product. MADE IN AMERICA!!!
Is there any sort of chart/graph indicating relative performance (Compressive Load / LBF - Compressive Strain % just like the one @2:40 in this video) at different temperatures to help someone in the midwestern US evaluate how these might do in the wide range of temperatures we experience at different load levels? Something like a 68 degree (common ambient room temp) vs 35 degree (refrigerator) vs 0 degree (freezer) charted would be very helpful. I love the concept of this product for a fairly light duty (2023 Nissan Frontier Pro 4x Crew Cab) pickup that mostly tows in Minnesota Spring/Summer/Fall but I'm curious if these will cause an unpleasant ride in or even damage the product in the winter months when we swing into the negative (F) temps in the depths of winter for weeks at a time?
Love this comment. Unfortunately we don't have a chart like that at this time. We'll keep it in mind for future videos. The rebound time starts to get slower at about -20 degrees fahrenheit. - Josh
I have a Rocky Ridge Ford F-150 XLT with a 6in lift and I’m thinking about adding some added support for my suspension without changing my ride quality. What color Sumo should I go with? If I go with that black would it change my ride quality?
I’ve got a 2018 transit that I’m trying to improve ride quality for passengers in the back. Maybe 400 lbs of passengers. Will sumo springs improve the ride quality or are the sumo springs more for towing loads?
Have a RAM 3500 and towing a 15,000 LB fifth wheel. I feel like air bags, Timbrens or Sumo springs would all work when the trailer is connected but will Sumo springs make more of a difference than the other two when the truck has no load? I'm looking to soften the ride when no trailer is attached.
Thanks Jim. Airbags will likely really firm up your unloaded ride, and Timbren is rubber so you could potentially see a negative or harsh unloaded ride there too. SumoSprings are designed to work when you load up, but leave you with a factory ride when unloaded. - Tom
I have a 2003 ford f150 harley davidson truck with a 3/4 belltech drop what do u have for the rear of my truck cause belltech bump stops not helping me at all...
I bet we've got something that would work! Shoot us some pictures of your suspension setup in the rear as well as the weight you typically carry to marketing@superspringsint.com - we will work with our engineers to see what might work! - Alex
I have a 2019 f3500 w/supreme cutaway utility body. I have problems when parking in the driveway of customers when there are more slopped driveways. I would like to raise the tailgate when there are more slopped driveways. Do you have any solutions.
Our SumoSprings could be a great solution to help stabilize your vehicle and improve clearance when parking on inclines. They’re designed to enhance load leveling and prevent sagging, which might just give you that extra lift needed at the tailgate.
Looking to add sumo springs instead of air bags on a 1st gen Sequioa that will be used primarly for towing a 4500lb camper. Which color would you recommend? 2 inch lift kit will be installed when installing the sumo springs
Hello! If you are not loaded down and/or towing very often, then the blue (-40) kit is the best option. If you are loaded down more than about 50% or 60% of the time, then the black (-47) kit is recommended. As for adding spacers -- you will need to provide our Customer Service team a measurement from where your factory bump stop is mounted, down to the contact point and they can assist you with special ordering spacers.
Will this assist if you are running at payload capacity? I have a GMC 2500 HD rated payload cap at 3065. Bought a 5th wheel with unloaded pin weight of 2000. We will be right up against the payload capacity, if not slightly over. I know that you cannot increase payload capacity but will this help like a "helper" spring? Saw this recommended against the other guys product and it was said that this provided a softer ride. appreciate your feedback.
Hi Edward 👋🏼 You're right, this doesn't increase any GVWR, but it will increase your load capacity. Our SumoSprings are rated as "additional" load capacity. Meaning, when your truck gets loaded up with 2,000 lbs of weight and starts sagging, we add capacity to that to stop the sag, sway, body roll, and bounce. The beauty is, it goes to work for you when you're loaded up, but works in concert with your factory suspension when you're unloaded and doesn't affect your stock ride. Hope that helps! -Tom
@Ryan Hendricks yes I am aware of the legalities of adding anything. Thanks for the reply. I sent the black sumos back and ordered the heavy duty blue ones as my pin weight is almost 3000 pounds. They came the day before I left on this trip. Will install them next week.
They work perfect. We make spacers as well for big lifts. Here's a video of my F250 on a 6" lift that I use the Rebel SumoSprings on. czcams.com/video/OqbhU65M0Sc/video.html - Adam
Thank you for this simple explanation. I'm currently researching on what to add to the rear of my 1998 Ford Econoline van, which is used as a daily driver plus camping. I carry around 1200 #'s when it's set up with gear and necessary items for off grid use. When I added a swing away cargo carrier, the van squatted with just the carrier alone. It seems the sumo may be what I'd need. Most interior weight in over the back & rear axles. What would you recommend please? TIA 👍
Great question! If you call our number (805-745-5553), we can discuss the specifics of your vehicle and figure out which product is best for your situation. Thank you for your inquiry! -Matt
I have a 2020 gmc Sierra 4 dr short box 4x4 I would need these while hauling a dual axle construction tool filled trailer! research shows no SKU # for my truck so can you point me in the right direction so that I can order a set ?
Thanks for this video. Might just be what I'm looking for to stiffen up the rear while towing our camper but keep the ride good otherwise since the truck is our main family car. This, just like airbags, will change the rear ride height when loaded with trailer right? Cuz it won't let the truck sag as much? So i'll need to redo the WDH setup?
Hi, thanks for reaching out. Yeah, our SumoSprings perform just like airbags except no air required. They'll help you level out your load when you're hauling or towing. - Josh
Great video - thanks for making it! I have a 2023 class c 31ft motorhome (Thor Quantum KW29) on an E-450 chassis. Would you recommend the black or yellow for my application? When I pull up your website and do a search it brings up both. I'm pretty sure I want black on the front but not sure on the rear.....any advise?
Thank you, we are glad our video helped you! Based off of your description, we would recommend an SSR-130-54(Yellow Sumos) on the rear. Please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns! -Matt
Question as to which one is best solution to following😁 Have a 2020 ford ranger single cab. Travel with slide on camper 800kg weight but that comes off then only 100kg tray weight. Leaf Springs were upgraded to 350kg and now it’s extremely harsh ride when camper off and just 100kg. When 800kg on the leafs support weight height ok but: camper is bouncy and not supported well. I also can travel a lot of corrugated roads with camper and without. Without camper it’s dangerous and extremely uncomfortable and with camper it’s sags too much if road dips and rises (feels like chassis will bend).
Have a 2006 Tundra with a 350lbs camper and 200lbs of gear on there full time. Stock leaf springs. Will this bring me back to stock ? Is this recommended for this application. Go offroad often 😊
Hi John 👋🏼 You may see a slightly lower rebound on the spring, meaning it could take a little longer to come back from compression - but nothing so serious that performance would be hindered. As far as their longevity, we took them through a pretty rough torture test (czcams.com/video/wqF1JaauTTE/video.html), and then used them after with no performance change. I think you're gonna be ok! - Tom
Timbren made of rubber. A hole in the center and progressive shape, not solid rubber. You will not feel them when unloaded because they are not in contact with the axel till your springs are compressed
I have upgraded rear leafs on my 18 raptor, im looking into some hydraulic bumps, very$$$$$ would these work for an offroad application? I never put anything in the bed. Well rack and spare. What color would best suited for this. Mainly to help with hard hits, bottom out
For offroad use, I'd recommend getting out -40 blue SumoSprings. They'll help soften drops and help eliminate the body roll, sway and vibration. - Josh
I have a 2018 f150 with a 3 in lift, I have about 8 1/2 to 8 3/4 gap between chassis and axel. I off road and overland with my truck. I have a bed rack with a RTT and awning on all the time and when I add my camping gear and Waterport, the rear sags a bit, anywhere between 1-2in. What would be best suited for my truck?
I have a 2021 Ford F-150 Fx4. I’m currently running Timbrens on it and I’m not happy. I’m looking for something a little less severe and gentler. Especially when pulling my camper on the old concrete interstates highways that make it feel like I have steel instead of rubber. Also, when i’m not pulling a camper, the jolt is pretty extreme when I hit a decent bump, when the timbren touched. I even took a 1” spacer out. Do you think your product will be gentler, but still support in my application?
Hello 👋🏼 Short answer is, yes. Timbrens are rubber which means they have a linear spring curve and push back hard regardless of how much weight is pushing against them. This means the potholes are rough and and bumps a felt all the way through the seat. SumoSprings have zero rubber in them; we use a microcellular polyurethane. It's a progressive spring rate that is designed to leave your factory ride untouched and then come into contact and go to work for you when you're loaded up or when you hit a harsh bump and soften the ride. For your truck, I'd recommend the SSR-143-40-2. This gives you the best unloaded ride as well as the best support for towing. The SSR-146-40 is also a great option! -Tom
Interesting video...still have air bags in the box saw this video and was wondering on a 22 Tacoma TRD with the level kit from dealer these will keep the level but add lift when loaded for trips. I carry alot of camping kayaking equipment. And a added cargo trailer in the future the ride will not sage with a weight distribution system used.
I destroyed the ride of my Tacoma with airbags-never again. Even at zero psi they interfere with the ride and acted like a huge bump stop. I finally got Deaver stage 1 leaf springs and fixed everything. I ordered Sumos for the front of my truck and I’d bet Sumos on the back are the next best option for you if you choose not to replace your leaf springs. Again, air bags are garbage.
I added the Super Springs. Made it a little rougher on rough paved roads but not too excessive. On smooth freeways they are fine. Add my trailer and loaded the ass sags a little but I can get a deeper drop and flip it around. I'm using a Curtis 3 inch now. Hows the ride with the new springs...are they a progressive type? As you load more, more of the spring is engaged?
I have a 2020 1500 6 inch bds lift i have air bags for our camper and a Roadmaster helper spring rides very well unloaded Bilstein 5100 shocks the problem that I have his we run pretty heavy on the back of the truck which bumps creates a bouncing effect I've got a feeling your setup would help with they've got the heavier suspension package ordered from the factory with all of our stuff and tongue weight we run about 4200 lbs on the rear axle do you have any kind of setup that would allow me to keep my airbags and still use your product?
I have a 2011 Chevy Tahoe with a 6” drop in the rear. Would these work as a bump stop because at the moment every time I hit a bump it slams my axle pretty bad. And would they be a good fit being lowered. Thanks
I have a 2012 ford expedition that I use to haul my travel trailer. The trailer is close to the top of the tow capacity and it sags a little bit even with the weight distribution system. Can you point me towards the best air bag solution?
I'd recommend our Coil SumoSprings. They'd fit your vehicle. Please go to our Coil SumoSprings page and follow the directions to get the right size for your vehicle: SuperSpringsint.com/Coil-SumoSprings/ - Josh
I have a Ford f150 2016 I use it for work like landscape and things like that I put material on the bed and sometimes I haul a trailer at the same time which product will you recommend for me? Thanks
Looking at potentially hauling a slide in pop up camper on my Tacoma and seeing if these will this increase my load capacity? With the camper, I'll be slightly under my GVWR rated load capacity but looking to increase by 300-400lbs. Thanks
Added sumo springs yellow ones,they are touching my frame when not loaded,can I cut them to have a better ride when I’m not towing.my wife won’t ride with me because it’s way to bumpy.maybe cut one of the tiers off.
We never recommend cutting our SumoSprings. But we want to make sure you have the right SumoSprings for your vehicle. Shoot us an email with your concern at tom@supersprings.com, and we'd be glad to help. - Josh
I have a 23' deisel motorhome with a rear slide out. The rear is sagging, I guess due to the weight of the slide-out. We are leaving in two months and will be towing a trailer of about 1500 lbs. With the rear already sagging will Sumo help me or should I go air bags? The motorhome has only 35000 kilometers on it! thanks!
2022 GMC One ton dual wheel HD camper package. 4000lbs camper load. I have about 2 1/2 inch drop when camper is in the pickup bed. Can Sumo be used to raise my truck back to its level factory operation position? My headlights also point up too high.
I have a ‘12 Ram 1500 ST quad cab 5.7 Hemi with a 8500lb rating. Going to be towing a 5600lb dry, 7000lb loaded 26’ standard Ty camper with tongue weight around 1k… curious what color to get that’ll work best for my application Would the SSR-307-47 work well?
Hi Brandon! The question for us always is, how often? If you're loaded up all the time then it makes sense to get a heavier density. But most people hauling a camper are weekend warriors who like to keep their unloaded ride nice so we just about always recommend the blue -40 density. The SSR-307-47 is going to work well, and if you find that you need more, we can always switch to the -47. -Tom
@@SuperSpringsInternational Thanks Tom. I just realized my rear is one a 6” lift so my gap from axle to top frame is a lot more. This makes me not know where to start now… I’m assuming a camper is going to have around 850-1100 tongue weight loaded. Should I attach the camper and see what measurement I need to be making contact?
I have an old 2002 Xterra Supercharged 4x4. The rear end of my rig sags a bit when I tow my dirt bike on a motorcycle hitch carrier (appx total weight is about 350 lbs). Do you guys have a solution for my old Xterra to get it to stop sagging/. Thank you!
I have a wheelchair lift under my 2021 GMC Savanna Explorer conversion van. Extended wheelbase. The lift makes it sit lower on the passenger side. Will these level me out?
If your truck is sagging these will help bring it up to stock height. Some people have also told us that they get a little lift after they installed these. - Josh
I’m looking to add something to the rear suspension on my welding rig. It’s a 2015 f350 cab and chassis… is sumo springs something that would help with my trucks squat and ride quality?
Hi Shawn! Pretty sure you're on coils? You'll wanna go to our Coil SumoSprings page and use the tool we provide there for measuring and getting the right part size. Super simple process and it ensures you get the right one... www.superspringsinternational.com/coil-sumosprings/ -Tom
I installed the Timbren active OR bump stops (reverse U bolt Kit).. not as tall as i had hoped as I have about a 1.5-2" gap between the stop and the frame.. Are the Sumos taller? Would it work with my existing set up as I literally just did the install last week lol
We typically recommend about 1/4 to 1/2" of gap between the contact point and the SumoSprings. There's likely a larger gap for the rubber bump stops you installed because rubber is mostly linear in its spring curve, and unless you've got a good amount of weight against, it's going to kick like a buck. As for the install, we use our own bracketry and flip kit so you'd probably be switching the whole thing out. I'm not sure what vehicle this is for or what the spring height that you installed is, but it sounds like a Tacoma maybe? In that case, our SumoSprings are 4" sitting on a raised bracket of an inch. We can also add an inch spacer in there if needed. Hope this helps! -Tom
No really. They install in the same place as each other. This is the airbag alternative. No lines, no leaks, no maintenance, and a lifetime warranty. Our product is a fit it and forget it solution - let's you keep the factory ride in tact and then goes to work for you when you need it most! -Tom
Do you own a pair of SumoSprings? If you fall within the 30-day purchase window, we'd be glad to exchange your SumoSprings for a lighter density to accommodate your needs. -Josh
Hey @FlipSideGarage, it seems we don't currently list that in our application guide. However, the Coil SumoSpring might be just what you need! You can determine the correct size for your vehicle by using our Coil Gap Measurement Tool. Download it here for the best fit: superspringsinternational.com/CSS-CoilGapTool.pdf. Let us know if you need any further assistance! #JourneyBetter
@@SuperSpringsInternational it’s not always loaded but when it’s loaded probably around 8-9k lbs. I will be getting a enclosed trailer to haul all the gear soon
@@SuperSpringsInternational short van model and I run BILSTEIN shocks and building a big rear bumper setup so extra weight is coming and custom made leaf springs and I will be towing a 16-18ft. Trailer
Hilux will be a big market if this will help soften the ride as it's too much truck ride. Not everyone purchase the Hilux to use in heavy load. It's to drive through flooded area in Philippines.
If your vehicle is sagging, it should bring it up to factory height. If your vehicle is level, then SumoSprings shouldn't affect your unloaded ride quality. - Josh
Hi Dan! Bouncing as in your unloaded ride is stiffer than you expected? What is your vehicle set up and which color/density did you add for how often you tow and load up? -Tom
Thanks for the video showing the difference. I appreciate how you didnt just trash the competitors but laid out pros and cons and sold your product well.
Glad it was helpful! - Josh
My Sumo Springs made all the difference for towing. I really like the simplicity and the fact that when the boat and Caravan are not on the hitch they are inactive.
Right on 😎 - Josh
Added these to my 2015 Toyota Tacoma . These not only reduced sag to 0 but give it a nice ride.
Awwww yeahhhh 😎 Love it! -Tom
Love the straight-forward talk. Thanks. Ordered front and rear for my MB Sprinter 3500 RV
Love that! Thank you for the order. We can't wait for you to journey better! -Tom
Liked the video explanation of the SumoSprings. It gave all the reasons why I put them on my new 2021 Ram ProMaster 3500 van immediately. Excellent product and a "must buy."
I put them on my 2019 Promaster. I removed one of the factory leaf springs to lower the rear for a even stance and make loading motorcycles easier. I then added the sumo springs . Perfect!
This is awesome! So glad we are a part of your va build! 🚐 -Tom
I like that! 🏍 -Tom
I just received mines in for the front of my motorhome, I can't install them, yet the dealer has it now for warranty work, but as soon when I get it back, they will get install the first chance I get. I will be getting the one for the rear also, but the beginning of next summer, awesome product.
Thanks Bishop George! Let us know how you like them! -Tom
@SuperSprings International Yes sir I still don't have my MH but when I get it back I will install the front and I will be buying the rear sumo springs.
I installed front and back on my 2500 sprinter, what a difference, a world of improvement. sumo spring (black) front and back
Awesome, thanks for sharing! We're glad you're enjoying them. - Josh
For a minute there I thought I was looking at Pinhead from the Hellraiser movie when I saw all those screws & screwdriver in that SumoSpring.
✌🏽😜
I have air lift installed on my 05 4runner and it’s good when fully loaded especially in the highway. Loaded with family stuff going to the beach for a 5 day outing along with 2 bikes on a rack. However when truck is empty it is so hard it feels like there is no suspension even with the minimum psi. I will try this product in the coming springtime.
We're excited to have you try us out. - Josh
Jim, the Sumo Springs that I have on my F150 4x4 sit above the axel one inch and do not engage unless under load. When under load they engage and make all the difference in rear end sway, corner lean, and squat. However when pulling the RV the ride stiffens up and bumps in the road feel more solid!🤣👍 Not so much with the boat, it has half the hitch weight.
Airbags are the way to go if your towing heavy llama ads constantly, especially if the weight varies like in construction
Loving this cant wait to get ours on the Ex gonna be sweet. Great explanation
We're pumped for you guys! -Adam
Just what I was looking for.....Seems that the air bag solution would require more maintenance than the SumoSprings...The less maintenance I have to deal with the better...Looking to install SumoSprings in the spring...Thanks again..
Yes, exactly! Feel free to contact our Customer Care team if you need assistance selecting the right kit for your vehicle! -Andrew
Timbren bumps stops are the best
Great Video!
Thanks Dustin! Here for you whenever you need us! -Tom
I’ve got the 1500lb springs (SSR-207-47, I think??) on my 2500hd. I got ‘em on sale and couldn’t beat them for the price. They’re not obtrusive at all under normal driving conditions.
Love to hear this! We so honored to be making a difference to peoples journeys! -Tom
@@SuperSpringsInternational I would find this video after I had another item that everyone was telling me I needed, oh well maybe after mine fail I'll order your amazing product. MADE IN AMERICA!!!
@@tg9388 We're here when you're ready! - Josh
Is it worth removing what I have to install your product?
@@SuperSpringsInternational Thanks, wish you had stronger spring leaf's as well to help with my payload issue.
My timbren broke and of course it wasn't covered. Will go with this next
Let us know what you think!
Is there any sort of chart/graph indicating relative performance (Compressive Load / LBF - Compressive Strain % just like the one @2:40 in this video) at different temperatures to help someone in the midwestern US evaluate how these might do in the wide range of temperatures we experience at different load levels? Something like a 68 degree (common ambient room temp) vs 35 degree (refrigerator) vs 0 degree (freezer) charted would be very helpful. I love the concept of this product for a fairly light duty (2023 Nissan Frontier Pro 4x Crew Cab) pickup that mostly tows in Minnesota Spring/Summer/Fall but I'm curious if these will cause an unpleasant ride in or even damage the product in the winter months when we swing into the negative (F) temps in the depths of winter for weeks at a time?
Love this comment. Unfortunately we don't have a chart like that at this time. We'll keep it in mind for future videos. The rebound time starts to get slower at about -20 degrees fahrenheit. - Josh
I have a Rocky Ridge Ford F-150 XLT with a 6in lift and I’m thinking about adding some added support for my suspension without changing my ride quality. What color Sumo should I go with? If I go with that black would it change my ride quality?
Great video 👍🏻
Glad it helps!! -Tom
I’ve got a 2018 transit that I’m trying to improve ride quality for passengers in the back. Maybe 400 lbs of passengers. Will sumo springs improve the ride quality or are the sumo springs more for towing loads?
Sumo wins! Xactly what I needed to know!
Have a RAM 3500 and towing a 15,000 LB fifth wheel. I feel like air bags, Timbrens or Sumo springs would all work when the trailer is connected but will Sumo springs make more of a difference than the other two when the truck has no load? I'm looking to soften the ride when no trailer is attached.
Thanks Jim. Airbags will likely really firm up your unloaded ride, and Timbren is rubber so you could potentially see a negative or harsh unloaded ride there too. SumoSprings are designed to work when you load up, but leave you with a factory ride when unloaded.
- Tom
I have a 2003 ford f150 harley davidson truck with a 3/4 belltech drop what do u have for the rear of my truck cause belltech bump stops not helping me at all...
Hello! Yes, we have kits for a 2003 F150. As long as your vehicle is at stock height, these will work for you!
Interesting. Makes me wonder if they can be used on a 1990s station wagon with a Class III hitch.
I bet we've got something that would work! Shoot us some pictures of your suspension setup in the rear as well as the weight you typically carry to marketing@superspringsint.com - we will work with our engineers to see what might work! - Alex
I have a 2019 f3500 w/supreme cutaway utility body. I have problems when parking in the driveway of customers when there are more slopped driveways. I would like to raise the tailgate when there are more slopped driveways. Do you have any solutions.
We do! Call or chat with us on the website and we will take care of you
Our SumoSprings could be a great solution to help stabilize your vehicle and improve clearance when parking on inclines. They’re designed to enhance load leveling and prevent sagging, which might just give you that extra lift needed at the tailgate.
Looking to add sumo springs instead of air bags on a 1st gen Sequioa that will be used primarly for towing a 4500lb camper. Which color would you recommend?
2 inch lift kit will be installed when installing the sumo springs
Hello! If you are not loaded down and/or towing very often, then the blue (-40) kit is the best option. If you are loaded down more than about 50% or 60% of the time, then the black (-47) kit is recommended. As for adding spacers -- you will need to provide our Customer Service team a measurement from where your factory bump stop is mounted, down to the contact point and they can assist you with special ordering spacers.
Will this assist if you are running at payload capacity? I have a GMC 2500 HD rated payload cap at 3065. Bought a 5th wheel with unloaded pin weight of 2000. We will be right up against the payload capacity, if not slightly over. I know that you cannot increase payload capacity but will this help like a "helper" spring? Saw this recommended against the other guys product and it was said that this provided a softer ride. appreciate your feedback.
Hi Edward 👋🏼 You're right, this doesn't increase any GVWR, but it will increase your load capacity. Our SumoSprings are rated as "additional" load capacity. Meaning, when your truck gets loaded up with 2,000 lbs of weight and starts sagging, we add capacity to that to stop the sag, sway, body roll, and bounce. The beauty is, it goes to work for you when you're loaded up, but works in concert with your factory suspension when you're unloaded and doesn't affect your stock ride. Hope that helps! -Tom
@Ryan Hendricks yes I am aware of the legalities of adding anything. Thanks for the reply. I sent the black sumos back and ordered the heavy duty blue ones as my pin weight is almost 3000 pounds. They came the day before I left on this trip. Will install them next week.
How well do they work with a lifted truck suspension? Same idea as a stock truck?
They work perfect. We make spacers as well for big lifts. Here's a video of my F250 on a 6" lift that I use the Rebel SumoSprings on. czcams.com/video/OqbhU65M0Sc/video.html - Adam
Thank you for this simple explanation. I'm currently researching on what to add to the rear of my 1998 Ford Econoline van, which is used as a daily driver plus camping. I carry around 1200 #'s when it's set up with gear and necessary items for off grid use.
When I added a swing away cargo carrier, the van squatted with just the carrier alone.
It seems the sumo may be what I'd need.
Most interior weight in over the back & rear axles.
What would you recommend please? TIA 👍
Great question! If you call our number (805-745-5553), we can discuss the specifics of your vehicle and figure out which product is best for your situation. Thank you for your inquiry! -Matt
what did they tell you to get for your van
I have a 2020 gmc Sierra 4 dr short box 4x4 I would need these while hauling a dual axle construction tool filled trailer! research shows no SKU # for my truck so can you point me in the right direction so that I can order a set ?
@picwick57 can you give us a few more details? Is this a 1500 Sierra? Approximately how heavy is the trailer? With that info we can send you a link!
I can't find it on Amazon for dodge caravan, town and country, Chrysler Pacifica.
Does your vehicle have Coil Suspension?
Thanks for this video. Might just be what I'm looking for to stiffen up the rear while towing our camper but keep the ride good otherwise since the truck is our main family car. This, just like airbags, will change the rear ride height when loaded with trailer right? Cuz it won't let the truck sag as much? So i'll need to redo the WDH setup?
Hi, thanks for reaching out. Yeah, our SumoSprings perform just like airbags except no air required. They'll help you level out your load when you're hauling or towing. - Josh
Great video - thanks for making it! I have a 2023 class c 31ft motorhome (Thor Quantum KW29) on an E-450 chassis. Would you recommend the black or yellow for my application? When I pull up your website and do a search it brings up both. I'm pretty sure I want black on the front but not sure on the rear.....any advise?
Thank you, we are glad our video helped you! Based off of your description, we would recommend an SSR-130-54(Yellow Sumos) on the rear. Please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns! -Matt
Question as to which one is best solution to following😁
Have a 2020 ford ranger single cab. Travel with slide on camper 800kg weight but that comes off then only 100kg tray weight.
Leaf Springs were upgraded to 350kg and now it’s extremely harsh ride when camper off and just 100kg.
When 800kg on the leafs support weight height ok but: camper is bouncy and not supported well. I also can travel a lot of corrugated roads with camper and without.
Without camper it’s dangerous and extremely uncomfortable and with camper it’s sags too much if road dips and rises (feels like chassis will bend).
Is your Ranger a domestic model or International Model. - Josh
Have a 2006 Tundra with a 350lbs camper and 200lbs of gear on there full time. Stock leaf springs. Will this bring me back to stock ? Is this recommended for this application. Go offroad often 😊
Yes, these would work wonderfully! - Josh
Will I have issues in Canada? OAT can be -30C in the winter. Not going to be towing then just curious about any wear damage that might occur?
Hi John 👋🏼 You may see a slightly lower rebound on the spring, meaning it could take a little longer to come back from compression - but nothing so serious that performance would be hindered. As far as their longevity, we took them through a pretty rough torture test (czcams.com/video/wqF1JaauTTE/video.html), and then used them after with no performance change. I think you're gonna be ok!
- Tom
Timbren made of rubber. A hole in the center and progressive shape, not solid rubber. You will not feel them when unloaded because they are not in contact with the axel till your springs are compressed
Mhmm. According to their website, it states that they are made of solid rubber. People have different preferences, and that's perfectly fine. - Josh
can you help me i have a lifted truck and i want to stop that body roll and hard movement on the back of it what u recommend?
Yes! I recommend contacting our Customer Care team and they'll assist you with finding the perfect fitting kit for your vehicle 👍 -Andrew
I have upgraded rear leafs on my 18 raptor, im looking into some hydraulic bumps, very$$$$$ would these work for an offroad application? I never put anything in the bed. Well rack and spare. What color would best suited for this. Mainly to help with hard hits, bottom out
For offroad use, I'd recommend getting out -40 blue SumoSprings. They'll help soften drops and help eliminate the body roll, sway and vibration. - Josh
I have a 2018 f150 with a 3 in lift, I have about 8 1/2 to 8 3/4 gap between chassis and axel. I off road and overland with my truck. I have a bed rack with a RTT and awning on all the time and when I add my camping gear and Waterport, the rear sags a bit, anywhere between 1-2in. What would be best suited for my truck?
Could you send me some pictures of your suspension to joshua@superspringsint.com to confirm fitment. - Josh
I have a 2021 Ford F-150 Fx4. I’m currently running Timbrens on it and I’m not happy. I’m looking for something a little less severe and gentler. Especially when pulling my camper on the old concrete interstates highways that make it feel like I have steel instead of rubber. Also, when i’m not pulling a camper, the jolt is pretty extreme when I hit a decent bump, when the timbren touched. I even took a 1” spacer out. Do you think your product will be gentler, but still support in my application?
Hello 👋🏼 Short answer is, yes. Timbrens are rubber which means they have a linear spring curve and push back hard regardless of how much weight is pushing against them. This means the potholes are rough and and bumps a felt all the way through the seat. SumoSprings have zero rubber in them; we use a microcellular polyurethane. It's a progressive spring rate that is designed to leave your factory ride untouched and then come into contact and go to work for you when you're loaded up or when you hit a harsh bump and soften the ride. For your truck, I'd recommend the SSR-143-40-2. This gives you the best unloaded ride as well as the best support for towing. The SSR-146-40 is also a great option! -Tom
Wish you made these for lowered C10's
Hmm 🧐
Interesting video...still have air bags in the box saw this video and was wondering on a 22 Tacoma TRD with the level kit from dealer these will keep the level but add lift when loaded for trips. I carry alot of camping kayaking equipment. And a added cargo trailer in the future the ride will not sage with a weight distribution system used.
Our SumoSprings will keep your truck level with or without weight even if you attach a trailer. - Josh
I destroyed the ride of my Tacoma with airbags-never again. Even at zero psi they interfere with the ride and acted like a huge bump stop. I finally got Deaver stage 1 leaf springs and fixed everything. I ordered Sumos for the front of my truck and I’d bet Sumos on the back are the next best option for you if you choose not to replace your leaf springs.
Again, air bags are garbage.
I added the Super Springs. Made it a little rougher on rough paved roads but not too excessive. On smooth freeways they are fine. Add my trailer and loaded the ass sags a little but I can get a deeper drop and flip it around. I'm using a Curtis 3 inch now. Hows the ride with the new springs...are they a progressive type? As you load more, more of the spring is engaged?
I have a 2020 1500 6 inch bds lift i have air bags for our camper and a Roadmaster helper spring rides very well unloaded Bilstein 5100 shocks the problem that I have his we run pretty heavy on the back of the truck which bumps creates a bouncing effect I've got a feeling your setup would help with they've got the heavier suspension package ordered from the factory with all of our stuff and tongue weight we run about 4200 lbs on the rear axle do you have any kind of setup that would allow me to keep my airbags and still use your product?
You can try sending us a picture to confirm fitment, but it sounds like we won't have something that would fit. joshua@supersprinsgint.com - Josh
I have a 2011 Chevy Tahoe with a 6” drop in the rear. Would these work as a bump stop because at the moment every time I hit a bump it slams my axle pretty bad.
And would they be a good fit being lowered.
Thanks
Send me pictures of your suspension: joshua@superspringsint.com - Josh
I have a 2012 ford expedition that I use to haul my travel trailer. The trailer is close to the top of the tow capacity and it sags a little bit even with the weight distribution system. Can you point me towards the best air bag solution?
I'd recommend our Coil SumoSprings. They'd fit your vehicle. Please go to our Coil SumoSprings page and follow the directions to get the right size for your vehicle: SuperSpringsint.com/Coil-SumoSprings/ - Josh
I have a Ford f150 2016 I use it for work like landscape and things like that I put material on the bed and sometimes I haul a trailer at the same time which product will you recommend for me?
Thanks
I recommend our SSR-116-40 kit. We also have a leveling kit that's also built for towing, JBS-101-01 kit - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational thanks a lot man I really appreciate it
Will sumo springs help with steer axel bumps. Independent front end
Yes they do! - Josh
There isn't that much maintenance on air bags , installed properly there is nothing else to do other than adjust air psi which is very easy .
Very interesting, as this is not the feedback we receive from our customers!
Looking at potentially hauling a slide in pop up camper on my Tacoma and seeing if these will this increase my load capacity? With the camper, I'll be slightly under my GVWR rated load capacity but looking to increase by 300-400lbs. Thanks
Hi Kyle, our SumoSprings increase your truck's load-carrying ability. Let me know if you have any other questions - Josh
Added sumo springs yellow ones,they are touching my frame when not loaded,can I cut them to have a better ride when I’m not towing.my wife won’t ride with me because it’s way to bumpy.maybe cut one of the tiers off.
We never recommend cutting our SumoSprings. But we want to make sure you have the right SumoSprings for your vehicle. Shoot us an email with your concern at tom@supersprings.com, and we'd be glad to help. - Josh
I have a 23' deisel motorhome with a rear slide out. The rear is sagging, I guess due to the weight of the slide-out. We are leaving in two months and will be towing a trailer of about 1500 lbs. With the rear already sagging will Sumo help me or should I go air bags? The motorhome has only 35000 kilometers on it!
thanks!
What motorhome do you have? - Josh
2022 GMC One ton dual wheel HD camper package. 4000lbs camper load. I have about 2 1/2 inch drop when camper is in the pickup bed. Can Sumo be used to raise my truck back to its level factory operation position? My headlights also point up too high.
Our SumoSprings help eliminate sag. How often do you tow with your vehicle? - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational four to five times a year
Is this like Sorbothane? Or could be this paired with Sorbothane pads, that are designed to cushion fast compression?
BTW Spectacular ✓ 🤩 product 💪🤠👍
I have a ram 3500 Dually with. Air lift 7500xl, I am an auto transporter “ 4 car hauler “ will the YELLOW SS help the ride be a bit smoother ?
Hi, how often is your vehicle loaded? - Josh
Which model will fit 2022 Ford F350 Platinum Super Duty with Tremor package?
Is your truck a 4x4 or 4x2? -Josh
I have a ‘12 Ram 1500 ST quad cab 5.7 Hemi with a 8500lb rating. Going to be towing a 5600lb dry, 7000lb loaded 26’ standard Ty camper with tongue weight around 1k… curious what color to get that’ll work best for my application
Would the SSR-307-47 work well?
Hi Brandon! The question for us always is, how often? If you're loaded up all the time then it makes sense to get a heavier density. But most people hauling a camper are weekend warriors who like to keep their unloaded ride nice so we just about always recommend the blue -40 density. The SSR-307-47 is going to work well, and if you find that you need more, we can always switch to the -47. -Tom
@@SuperSpringsInternational Thanks Tom. I just realized my rear is one a 6” lift so my gap from axle to top frame is a lot more. This makes me not know where to start now… I’m assuming a camper is going to have around 850-1100 tongue weight loaded. Should I attach the camper and see what measurement I need to be making contact?
I have an old 2002 Xterra Supercharged 4x4. The rear end of my rig sags a bit when I tow my dirt bike on a motorcycle hitch carrier (appx total weight is about 350 lbs). Do you guys have a solution for my old Xterra to get it to stop sagging/. Thank you!
Does your vehicle have Coil Suspension? - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational leaf springs in the rear
When are you making them available for the ford sport trac?
Send me some images of your suspension. We may have applications from other chassis that work - tom@superspringsint.com. -Tom
Do you also have an eBay store or do you sell them on eBay as well???? Great video
We work with folks who use Amazon and eBay to sell, but biting from us is at superspringinternational.com! -Tom
I have a wheelchair lift under my 2021 GMC Savanna Explorer conversion van. Extended wheelbase. The lift makes it sit lower on the passenger side. Will these level me out?
Hi, thanks for reaching out. Does your vehicle have Coil Suspension? - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational it’s a 3500 Savana, it has leaf springs in the back, coils in front
Airbag systems can fail in many ways and once they do you will have a very bad day. I am so sick of it, time to change over to SumoSprings.
Let's do it!!- Josh
I did a flip kit on my truck and trying to raise it back up an inch or two will these help with that?
If your truck is sagging these will help bring it up to stock height. Some people have also told us that they get a little lift after they installed these. - Josh
I’m looking to add something to the rear suspension on my welding rig. It’s a 2015 f350 cab and chassis… is sumo springs something that would help with my trucks squat and ride quality?
Is your truck a 4x4 or 4x2? How heavy is your truck loaded? And does it have an overload spring? - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational 4wd and yes over load spring
Do you know approximately how heavy it's always loaded? - Josh
Do you have the ones that can work on the 2003 chevy avalanche
Hi Shawn! Pretty sure you're on coils? You'll wanna go to our Coil SumoSprings page and use the tool we provide there for measuring and getting the right part size. Super simple process and it ensures you get the right one... www.superspringsinternational.com/coil-sumosprings/ -Tom
I installed the Timbren active OR bump stops (reverse U bolt Kit).. not as tall as i had hoped as I have about a 1.5-2" gap between the stop and the frame.. Are the Sumos taller? Would it work with my existing set up as I literally just did the install last week lol
We typically recommend about 1/4 to 1/2" of gap between the contact point and the SumoSprings. There's likely a larger gap for the rubber bump stops you installed because rubber is mostly linear in its spring curve, and unless you've got a good amount of weight against, it's going to kick like a buck. As for the install, we use our own bracketry and flip kit so you'd probably be switching the whole thing out. I'm not sure what vehicle this is for or what the spring height that you installed is, but it sounds like a Tacoma maybe? In that case, our SumoSprings are 4" sitting on a raised bracket of an inch. We can also add an inch spacer in there if needed. Hope this helps! -Tom
They make spacers to close the gap
@@vfr800fi07 do you know which company makes them or what to search for? thanks
Can you run these with bag suspension and these would be bumpstops
No really. They install in the same place as each other. This is the airbag alternative. No lines, no leaks, no maintenance, and a lifetime warranty. Our product is a fit it and forget it solution - let's you keep the factory ride in tact and then goes to work for you when you need it most! -Tom
Any one of the spring for 1996-2000 Toyota RAV4 3s Gen?
If your vehicle has Coil Suspension, our Coil SumoSprings will work. - Josh
Tried to order these but your site said you didn't cover my truck.
What kind of rig? Year/make/model/drive train? -Adam
CAN THESE BE PUT ON A 2018 LINCOLN NAVIGATOR?!?
If so - How
Does your vehicle have Coil Suspension?
@@SuperSpringsInternational
Yes
awesome
Thank you, Aaron! - Josh
Will you be willing to take a trade in on a set? I have a rubber bump stop replacement and the loaded ride is very rough.
Do you own a pair of SumoSprings? If you fall within the 30-day purchase window, we'd be glad to exchange your SumoSprings for a lighter density to accommodate your needs. -Josh
Need one for a 2014 honda odyssey
Hey @FlipSideGarage, it seems we don't currently list that in our application guide. However, the Coil SumoSpring might be just what you need! You can determine the correct size for your vehicle by using our Coil Gap Measurement Tool. Download it here for the best fit: superspringsinternational.com/CSS-CoilGapTool.pdf. Let us know if you need any further assistance! #JourneyBetter
What color sumo spring would you recommend for a 2008 Ford Econoline 350 superduty
Hi, how heavy is your vehicle loaded? Is it loaded at all times? - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational it’s not always loaded but when it’s loaded probably around 8-9k lbs. I will be getting a enclosed trailer to haul all the gear soon
@@joshuawilliamson7672 Is your Econoline a cutaway model or the van model? - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational short van model and I run BILSTEIN shocks and building a big rear bumper setup so extra weight is coming and custom made leaf springs and I will be towing a 16-18ft. Trailer
@@joshuawilliamson7672 I'd go with our SSR-107-54 for the rear and the SSF-106-47 for the front. - Josh
Is it available for Toyota Hilux 2024?
We currently only have front options at the moment
Hilux will be a big market if this will help soften the ride as it's too much truck ride. Not everyone purchase the Hilux to use in heavy load. It's to drive through flooded area in Philippines.
Its very weird that you dont make them for 2022 f150 or it its not an option in the search tool.
Hi, we're working on updating the website. All 2021 F150 products fit the 2022 F150. - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational thanks a lot. Now it will be easy.
Are spacers sold for a 2" lifted Dodge Ram 2500?
Yes, go ahead and use our chat feature on our website to talk to our sales team and tell them that you'd like to order some spacers. - Josh
What item code for 2022 F-350 Dually? Want the most resistance for no squat possible
Hi, is your vehicle a 4x4 or 4x2 ? And what do you mainly use your truck for ? Do you drive unloaded and loaded?
Will Sumo Springs affect unloaded ride height?
If your vehicle is sagging, it should bring it up to factory height. If your vehicle is level, then SumoSprings shouldn't affect your unloaded ride quality. - Josh
How can I buy from Canada ?
Hi, you can purchase all our products through our website, SuperSpringsint.com - Josh
Do you make them for 2008 international 4200 gulfstream endura conquest motorhome??
Do you know what chassis your motorhome is on? - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational international chasis 4200
Do they affect off-roading?
These compress up to 80% of their size. They shouldn't affect your offroading.
Anyone have issues with bouncing Sumo springs while not loaded???
Hi Dan! Bouncing as in your unloaded ride is stiffer than you expected? What is your vehicle set up and which color/density did you add for how often you tow and load up? -Tom
Nice , I had airbags and still ride like crap on my f450
I can imagine, these are something different. - Josh
Does it work on a 2008 Tahoe?
Our SSR-204-40 would fit your vehicle. - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational thanks. I like the Supersprings i have on my truck.
@@SuperSpringsInternational perfect, just ordered them
TOYOTA CAMRY GOOD?
We have Coil SumoSprings that would fit. - Josh
Export to Bolivia please
Hi, yes we ship worldwide. - Josh
0:39 starting off with lies, everything requires maintenance
If you need this stuff you've done something rong.
Who said you can't improve on 'fine'? SumoSprings add that extra 'oomph' to your ride, even if you haven't 'ronged' anything yet!
the style of the video is creepy almost like you are being interrogated
Where were you on the evening of March 30th? 🤔
I got a 2inch lift block on the rear of my truck will these still work?
It's possible! Some of our kits do allow for spacers! I suggest contacting our Customer Service team for assistance on your setup/application. -Andrew
What should I use on my 03 4x4 exscursion pulling 6800lb camper?
How often do you tow or haul? - Josh
@@SuperSpringsInternational 1 or twice a month