Prince Charles: âDiana Is a Triumph" | The Crown (Josh O'Connor, Emma Corrin)
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 28. 12. 2023
- My dears, Philip (Tobias Menzies) lays out the family's expectation for Charles (Josh O'Connor) to marry Diana (Emma Corrin). After Diana's visit, Charles confides in his true love, Camilla (Emerald Fennell), navigating the pressure to take a bride and wrestling with conflicting emotions, feeling like a hunted stag.
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The way he just patted her on the shoulder. If that's not friend zoned, I don't know what is. đ
I donât believe that. He was giving her an encouraging pat on the shoulder. Even at Balmoral, the paps were watching them.
Charles is a blood royal, and the rules with them are NO PDAâs, period, end of discussion. So, no, they will not be romantic in front of their chauffeurs or anyone else they donât know. Itâs just not done. They donât live by the same rules other people might. You may like PDAâs, but I donât. For me, personally, holding hands is ok, the man wrapping his arms around my waist from behind is ok, romantic kissing, not ok. I save that for behind closed doors. My romantic feelings for the man Iâm with should never be a public spectacle. My romantic relationship isnât for the whole world to scrutinize. Not everyone is the same as I am. But I shouldnât have to hide how I feel about it either.
I didnât see anything wrong with Charles patting Diana on the shoulder. Charles is socially awkward anyway and always has been. Diana basically told him sheâs tougher than she looks. But, for the royal Family, she wasnât the right kind of tough. Thatâs what the problem ended up being.đ€·đ»ââïžShe married into a family that were albeit emotionless, cause they had to be. And that caused them problems in the end. That also caused Phillip problems with Elizabeth in the first years of their marriage. Phillip wasnât emotionless and Elizabeth was, out of necessity. And that really upset Phillip. Elizabeth wanted Phillip, any which way she could get him. She wanted to gloss over what his needs were and just expected him to take it and accept it. They had lots of problems the first years they were married. No one felt they had to listen to him. Cause he wasnât an HRH. Elizabeth married a prince from a royal family which was albeit extinct and the British Royals knew that and used that against him every chance they got. Elizabeth was oblivious to all of that. She was also, as a young queen, oblivious to her own mother verbally seducing QEIIâs cabinet members to go against their new Queen and just do what the queen mother said to do.
That family was messed up.
A great sport. Such romance đđđ
A shoulder Pat and âyouâve been a great sportâisnât very romantic đ
Josh did the BEST job out of all the Charles' in my opinion.
I think this scene makes out to be that Charles was forced to marry Diana by the Royal family. From royal sources, that wasnât exactly the case. They looked favourably on the prospect of their union, but no one forced him per se. The Duke of Edinburgh only said either propose or let her go. But as the Prince of Wales, there must have been a considerable mounting pressure for him to marry and produce an heir, and letâs not forget the Royal Family tend to marry incredibly young, so Charles was already a bit late according to their standard. And he had been rejected by 2 or 3 women, if I remember correctly. I guess he was equally lost and started to feel the stress, so he just grabbed whatever he could get his hands on. Tbh, I donât think the King was really that certain of himself even in his early 30s. And I also think the King hadnât always been head over heels with Camilla, but the desperation derived from his highly incompatible marriage drove him into her arms, who was herself not entirely happy in her marriage. He should have let Diana go in the first place, before the commitment. She wasnât exactly that easy of a person to deal with domestically, understandable considering her traumatic childhood. She needed someone quite special to accommodate those needs, and Charles wasnât that person. Bottom line, ladies and gentlemen, donât marry because you feel the social pressure to do so, if you donât feel absolutely certain he/she is the one. Not only would you trap yourself in perpetual unhappiness, but only trapping the other party.
well said.
He could have had his pick of almost any woman. But she was picked as she was a virgin and the pressure was heavy. More than social pressure. Utter coercion. Camilla wanted to marry him but he was pulled away from her and she was married to Andrew. That never disintegrated. She just had to wait until she'd given Andrew his children so their inheritance would not be doubted. Then they returned.
rejected by 3 women ouch!
The entire phone call is so well written, and the ominous music accompanies it so well. I can't get enough of it. "She's a triumph. In the history of Balmoral no one has ever passed a test with such flying colours. Rave reviews from the whole ghastly polit buro. Anne, Papa, Margo, Mummy, Gran. Then I was summoned for a conversation with Papa in the hanging room, where, oblivious to the grotesque symbolism, it might as well have been me strung up and skinned. He made the family position painfully clear. They want me to marry her."
It was Diana âstrung up and skinnedâ not his selfish arse.
The music adds a lot to this scene- it almost sounds like it's moaning in despair.
Charles, strung up was Diana. Not you.
The peruvian alpaca sweater :-)
Charles is such a self centered child.
"She's a child."
Charles wasn't exactly an adult. If he was, he wouldn't have preyed on her insecurities just because he couldn't get his way and marry someone who didn't love him as much as he loved her. Charles always gets what he wants, no matter what cost it does to the people who love him. Queen Elizabeth knew this, Diana knew this, I don't know if Camilla knows this.
He was old enough to know better
@@patroberts5449 True, but not old enough to DO better. In fact, he still isn't doing better. Ask Harry.
@@outinsider charles aint a saint but Harry aint an angel as well
@@xthefordx Diana wasn't either, but there is a difference between treating someone like a human being when they experience something human, and treating someone like crap just because they weren't your selected choice and because top down hatred of someone for something about themselves they cannot change.
â@@outinsider Charles actually did try with Diana. It's just that Diana sycophants like you deny reality & try to make Diana some naĂve, helpless, innocent martyr, when in truth Diana was the cause of her own miseries
She pretended to share the same interests as Charles, to convince him she was the right one. Only immediately after they married, Diana quickly dropped the act & made it known that she did not enjoy his interests and would complain & throw fits when he would want to indulge in his interests.
Furthermore, Diana knew very well that Charles still had feelings for Camilla. She witnessed a good deal of evidence before she ever married Charles & still she chose to go on with the wedding.
Why? Because the idea of one day becoming queen herself & the mother to the future heir was too good to pass up
As far as their marital problems, Diana was actually the first one to cheat - NOT Charles. Diana also had no qualms about breaking up the marriages of her many married lovers.
She also dragged her kids into her marital woes, something that anyone with basic common sense knows you are not supposed to do to young children. Yet she often forced the children to pick sides & burdened young William with all her troubles, constantly confiding in the boy things he should have never had to hear.
William was even traumatized by that interview she did with Martin Bashir. He was very upset by that. But Diana, as always, was selfish.
Also, if Diana had been more emotionally mature & less impulsive & reactionary, then maybe she would have figured out that Martin Bashir was a phoney. But she did not have the emotional maturity to do so - instead, when she was shown Bashir's "evidence", she just outright believed him & made no efforts to investigate further on it's credibility. Even her own brother warned her. But she was foolhardy
Lastly, Diana caused her own death by playing cat & mouse games with the paparazzi. Calling them & staging photos when she wanted to send a message to someone. But then complained when she didn't approve of their coverage of her. Can't have it both ways. Ultimately, her manipulative games earned her a premature demise & lifelong trauma to her 2 boys
But Charles is the villian, right?? Sure Jan ;)đ€Ł
Josh O'Connor is too cute and charming to be the real Prince (now King) Charles.
Is anyone going to point out how Charles referred to his own nuclear family as "the whole ghastly Politburo?"
people do that. I love my family but I call them the Spanish Inquisition when it comes to certain subjects because they like to stick their nose in where it is not wanted
Emma Corrin looks so much like Princess Diana it is uncanny. I love her cute pink sweater she is wearing. Charles seems disappointed that Princess Diana is a triumph. It is like she doesn't want his family to like her. He destroyed poor Di's life, I mean she was so young, if he loved Camilla he should have married her all those years ago instead. I think Prince Charles is a huge Narcissist.
Not gonna lie, my heart broke for Camilla. She loved Charles, knew that she wasn't good enough to join the family, even more so now that she was unhappily married with kids. Charles was the main person she wanted and eventually he could slip away to a new power couple and she'd be an outsider. This is where I admire Charles' love for her.
a forced marriage
Yea I think it was a forced marriage too set up by the queen and Phillip
Im no charles or Camilla fan but if only they were allowed to marry before he met diana then I dont think none of the criticism of him and Camilla would be happening and diana might still be alive today
Lmao no. Charles is not forced. And Diana is not forced. She was tricked, by Charles. Charles is the future king. He can always say no. What he cant say yes to is Camilla, so she used Diana. And as proven, he is successful.
â@@brendenreecegaming284 But it seems like she didn't actually _want_ to marry him then.(?) Which removing family pressure on Charles probably wouldn't have solved.
@@harringt100 camilla didnât love charles at first true but charles was indeed in love with her and always has been in a quite obsessive way too I think the more camilla spoke to Charles and hung out with him, she started to fall in love with him so they both had affairs behind their partners back
Diana knew what was going on she even confronted Camilla and told her to her face that she knows about her and Charles
#EmmaCorrin looks fantastic.
Charles preferred Camilla dog - Bowles
Oh, please. There is nothing wrong with Camilla, they just shouldnât have had an affair during their respective marriages.