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I had both, Öhlins and Wilbers, on my HD Road King. They are both perfect. Wilbers is easier to handle, because when it it set, it's done. Öhlins need adjustment if you run with luggage or with two persons. It offers you adjustment for compression and rebound, but you have to know what you are doing. Wrong adjustment can leed to a bad, sometimes dangerous ride. My first choice is Wilbers. Makes it easy for everybody. Regards from Austria.
Back in the day (1970s) my XLCH was in the shop and I needed to go somewhere so a buddy with an Electra Glide gave me a lift. His Shovelhead had the old pogo-seat and I gotta tell you that was one smooth ride, even over the rutted, pot-holed long drive way to our destination. That was the best seat suspension I have ever experienced on a motorcycle.
Great video! I run Wilbers on my 2019 CVO Street Glide, 2019 Road King Special, 2021 CVO Limited & 2023 Breakout. Love them! And you’re description comparing them to Ohlins is spot on! Soft but not too soft. 👍🏾 Also, thank you for your service!
I did a ton of research and ended up putting on Wilber’s both front and read. The difference is really amazing and it was money well spent. The biggest difference is when I rode with my wife. I seriously could not believe the difference - now she wants to ride all the time!
Upgraded my 2020 CVO Street Glide with the Wilbers system after doing some research. The fact that the Wilbers are self levelling sold me on the suspension. Watching @MillionDollarBogan taking his Road King off road just reassured me that this is a great system and will last forever as I’m not taking my bike off road.
Great review! I love the self leveling of the Wilbers on my Ultra. That is what sold me on them. My wife rides 50% of the time and the thought of having to make constant manual adjustments bugged me. I was looking at the Legend Air Ride before I found the Wilbers and for the same money, I was doing all 4 points and with the Legends was just the rear.
I have ridding approx 50k with Wilbers now... having them on my FLHRXS... going mostly long haul with quite some luggage and full saddlebags, tent etc... they are amazing, notably when going on curvy/winding roads, and at higher speed on the freeway.... side wind stability is fantastic, no wobbling... whatsoever... the only thing that sucks relates to the OEM tyres, being low profile for the "looks of a Special"... but that has nothing to do with any aftermarket based upgrading of the suspension... no matter what one would go for.... absolute recommendation!
Good video. Didn’t realize the front spring kit was that affordable. Might have to give them a try. Run supershox out back out of Illinois. Very good shock. Much smaller operation. Haven’t tried ohlins but have legends before and they run down the road nice
Great video LAB. After two years running Legends on my first HD '12 Ultra Classic, I am in search of upgrading my new to me 2017 Limited. Was going to go straight with Legends but I like the "Set it and forget it" preload as my wife and I travel loaded, unloaded, then solo.
I’ve just had ohlins fitted front x as nd rear to my 2020 softail slim, and set up for me. All I can say is that it transforms the bike, I can go faster and have better control, the self levelling doesn’t add anything to me as I never take a passenger or run luggage.
put 12" legends on my 05.U.C. all 4 corners. the air ride, o.e.m on the rear and stock up front, got to so bad, didn't even want to ride. wife and I ride 2-up on 2 to 5 thousand mile road trips. Now it's like riding in a caddie😊. First thing new harley owners need to First! NEW shocks all 4 corners.
Thanks for this video. This is going to help a lot of riders decide on their suspension. I have Legend Revo A shocks on mine that I purchase two years ago and coming from Progressive's top shocks feel that they were a big improvement over those. I am happy enough with the Legend's that I won't try to upgrade from here but I have people ask me all the time if they are the best and my answer has always been I don't know because I have not tried everything that's out there. Now I can just send them to this video. I have not done anything with the front yet but I might go with the Ohlin's on the front because the Legends for what you get don.t seem like a good value for the front. Again thank you.
I have Legends rear, getting Wilbers front! The front is $230;, 4 times less money compared to Legend and Wilbers and works just as good if not better!
What should I expect to lay out between purchasing and having a professional installation for both front and rear Wilber’s Suspension? I own a 2015 Ultra Limited Low. I understand it’s not going to be cheap but I like the idea of self leveling? Thanks, Mark
Ohlins are rebuildable. Wilbers I did ask and that was a not yet. I have Ohlins rear and Progressive springs front with 10w Ansoil fluid. I wish I bought the ProAction suspension
Another great video...i wonder how wilbers front suspension would handle on a big wheel bagger 26" or a fat 23"?...hopefully you'll do a video on this one day
The average punter has no clue how suspension works . Let alone how to adjust it properly for different conditions weight riding styles etc. I consider My skill level would be above average as a professional. The minute advantages of a properly adjusted Ohlins etc is just not worth the effort.Thats wy I run Wilbers set and forget
@@stefansgarage3014 Hi Stefan, thanks for the update and great news! I’m looking forward to Jan 24th for the launch of the 2024 models 😎. Have you got the cartridges installed on your bike? Any thoughts you can share? Or shall I wait for your video on that 😬.
@@maartenkok345 I would definitely share it, but we are way below freezing with lots of snow. Furthermore my Singlemalt is still with Wilbers in Northern Germany for the final tests. I will share everything as soon as I have her back and was able to ride.
@@stefansgarage3014 Thanks Stefan, I’ll wait for better weather ;-). I live in The Netherlands.. the weather is too bad to get on the bike now over here as well.. unfortunately..
so i run legend on my 2021 street glide and i'm not really happy with them i'm thinking about buying these Wilber rear shocks but 2K is a lot of money to me do you think it's worth it for me to switch to the Wilbers??? honestly? i just bought you're phone mount yesterday i cant wait to try it out!!
My 2012 switchback went into death wobble, went through some rough concrete while I was leaned over a little bit to one side on stock suspension running about 95mph. I don't want to experience that again. What would be your recommendation for my 2023 road king special ? Thanks !
Technically you can, but I would stay within the brand. It is dialed in a designed by a single company. Öhlins stiffer, more race oriented, Wilbers more comfort and precision with self leveling in the rear. You have to check your personal specs list.
Thanks for all your great videos!!! Helped me a lot. Do you perhaps have a video how to setup the rebound on Ohlins rear suspension? I have a 2019 Road Glide special with Ohlins in the rear and Ohlins springs in the front. Thanks in advance.
After adjustment for just me riding. What happens when I have a passenger? DO I need to do a further adjustment when I have one and reverse back after?
No, the self leveling Nivomat will take care of any load changes. Remove the saddlebags only for cleaning the bike and always have the perfect preload.
Doesn't seem odd that no matter what suspension you put on a new HD Dresser that it will never ride as smooth as the new Wing Tour yet Honda (Showa) makes the OEM suspensions for both Harley and Honda? Of course, Showa builds to Harley specs.
I ride a Road Glide CVO 2022 with the awfull 21" frontwheel. The frontsuspension is really terrible. Will the Wilbers suspension be better at front and does the bike stears better with that suspension ? Or do i better change the 21" frontwheel for a 19" frontwheel ?
Ohlins , come ready to ride if you take the time to give them your info. when ordering .remove old install new ride , love my onlins 536dr 13". legions junk .
Have you tried Super Shocks? Curious about how they stack up against the more well known names. And they offer 3 levels. Why? Do they know there best cost too much? Thanks.
How many open the owner’s manual and adjust for their fat behinds? Harley bikes are designed for skinny 150 pound lightweight riders. I haven’t weighed that since the 9th grade.
If I was to hazard a guess at the weight of the average Harley rider, I’d assume 250-300lbs. I’d hazard a guess at maybe 5% of HD riders weigh less than 200lbs, myself being one of them at 180lbs.
Wow 2 ad's total about 5 min before your video. That's gonna hurt peoples channel. Most people are not going to wait that long for ad's to run to watch video's.
Yes they are, just not self-leveling in the rear-which are not necessary on a Trike. Klaus, the former owner of WilbersUSA (now retired) has them on his personal Trike.
It seems like you buy a Harley … then totally rebuild the Harley you just bought. I don’t get it. Also I notice we now have lifts, mini jacks, tools, etc….. sure it’s an easy job now Lolol….. love the videos. Thanks Ryan for your input and reviews. I always know I can cut to the chase watching these videos. One cop to another, stay safe and shiny side up!
I bought a used 2016 Ultra Classic with 5 miles on it in 2020. I would NEVER EVER buy another. I bottomed out and topped out because the suspension was so bad. Ohlins replacements were basically $2k plus labor and there was no way I was going to pay that for a motorcycle. I could write a book on how bad the Ultra Classics are. I sold the bike after 9 months because it was a total PoS
We will never ever know which is the best suspension. Because a company will give you free suspension and it will be better than stock. Then the CZcamsr will promote that company. I dont see any comparisons between companies by a CZcamsr. Legends vs Wilburs vs Ohlins. His main complaint is the dealership charged him 4.5 hrs to install them. He said they are not worth the price even though they are better than stock.
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I had both, Öhlins and Wilbers, on my HD Road King.
They are both perfect.
Wilbers is easier to handle, because when it it set, it's done.
Öhlins need adjustment if you run with luggage or with two persons. It offers you adjustment for compression and rebound, but you have to know what you are doing.
Wrong adjustment can leed to a bad, sometimes dangerous ride.
My first choice is Wilbers. Makes it easy for everybody.
Regards from Austria.
Back in the day (1970s) my XLCH was in the shop and I needed to go somewhere so a buddy with an Electra Glide gave me a lift. His Shovelhead had the old pogo-seat and I gotta tell you that was one smooth ride, even over the rutted, pot-holed long drive way to our destination. That was the best seat suspension I have ever experienced on a motorcycle.
Great video! I run Wilbers on my 2019 CVO Street Glide, 2019 Road King Special, 2021 CVO Limited & 2023 Breakout. Love them! And you’re description comparing them to Ohlins is spot on! Soft but not too soft. 👍🏾
Also, thank you for your service!
The best suspension is the one that makes you happy. A young man on a hardtail is happy. At 60 your budget for comfort is a lot higher.
Well said.
I did a ton of research and ended up putting on Wilber’s both front and read.
The difference is really amazing and it was money well spent.
The biggest difference is when I rode with my wife. I seriously could not believe the difference - now she wants to ride all the time!
Upgraded my 2020 CVO Street Glide with the Wilbers system after doing some research. The fact that the Wilbers are self levelling sold me on the suspension. Watching @MillionDollarBogan taking his Road King off road just reassured me that this is a great system and will last forever as I’m not taking my bike off road.
It won’t last forever and the rebuilds are $450 and as far as I know they are the only ones that do the rebuilds.
Great review! I love the self leveling of the Wilbers on my Ultra. That is what sold me on them. My wife rides 50% of the time and the thought of having to make constant manual adjustments bugged me. I was looking at the Legend Air Ride before I found the Wilbers and for the same money, I was doing all 4 points and with the Legends was just the rear.
Great! Thanks for sharing your experience.
I have complete Wilbers on my 21 SG. Incredible difference compared to the terrible stock shocks!
I was going to ask how Wilbers compares to Ohlins but someone already answered that question!!
I have ridding approx 50k with Wilbers now... having them on my FLHRXS... going mostly long haul with quite some luggage and full saddlebags, tent etc... they are amazing, notably when going on curvy/winding roads, and at higher speed on the freeway.... side wind stability is fantastic, no wobbling... whatsoever... the only thing that sucks relates to the OEM tyres, being low profile for the "looks of a Special"... but that has nothing to do with any aftermarket based upgrading of the suspension... no matter what one would go for.... absolute recommendation!
I just had Ohlins full suspension arrive for my 2012 Road-Glide. I can't wait to get them on the bike!
Good video. Didn’t realize the front spring kit was that affordable. Might have to give them a try. Run supershox out back out of Illinois. Very good shock. Much smaller operation. Haven’t tried ohlins but have legends before and they run down the road nice
Great video LAB. After two years running Legends on my first HD '12 Ultra Classic, I am in search of upgrading my new to me 2017 Limited. Was going to go straight with Legends but I like the "Set it and forget it" preload as my wife and I travel loaded, unloaded, then solo.
That's the perfect proofing ground for the Wilbers Nivomat.
Awesome! Like always, thank you for the great reviews…. I just ordered my Wilber’s and will be installing.
Good choice!
I have Wilbers on my Electra Glide. What sold me was watching Million Dollar Bogan's videos of traveling to South America on his Road King
I’ve just had ohlins fitted front x as nd rear to my 2020 softail slim, and set up for me. All I can say is that it transforms the bike, I can go faster and have better control, the self levelling doesn’t add anything to me as I never take a passenger or run luggage.
Thanks for the comments
Great review! I’ve had Wilber’s suspension for about 8 months. This review just assured me that it’s a good value for me.
Thanks again!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for this vid, I've been considering both of these as an upgrade from stock.
No problem 👍
put 12" legends on my 05.U.C. all 4 corners. the air ride, o.e.m on the rear and stock up front, got to so bad, didn't even want to ride. wife and I ride 2-up on 2 to 5 thousand mile road trips. Now it's like riding in a caddie😊. First thing new harley owners need to First! NEW shocks all 4 corners.
Rock on!! True
Thanks for this video. This is going to help a lot of riders decide on their suspension. I have Legend Revo A shocks on mine that I purchase two years ago and coming from Progressive's top shocks feel that they were a big improvement over those. I am happy enough with the Legend's that I won't try to upgrade from here but I have people ask me all the time if they are the best and my answer has always been I don't know because I have not tried everything that's out there. Now I can just send them to this video. I have not done anything with the front yet but I might go with the Ohlin's on the front because the Legends for what you get don.t seem like a good value for the front. Again thank you.
I have Legends rear, getting Wilbers front! The front is $230;, 4 times less money compared to Legend and Wilbers and works just as good if not better!
Nice!!
Wilber from Germany 🇩🇪
Thats the kind of review/comparison i like to hear!
Thanks much!!
What do you think about the Öhlins STX36 HD772 is it More comfortable than the Serie or original?
Enjoyed the comedic anecdotes in this one.
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What should I expect to lay out between purchasing and having a professional installation for both front and rear Wilber’s Suspension? I own a 2015 Ultra Limited Low. I understand it’s not going to be cheap but I like the idea of self leveling? Thanks, Mark
you mind asking what backrest is that on youre street glide i LOVE IT?? my wife would love it
Thanks for that review.
Ohlins are rebuildable. Wilbers I did ask and that was a not yet. I have Ohlins rear and Progressive springs front with 10w Ansoil fluid. I wish I bought the ProAction suspension
Another great video...i wonder how wilbers front suspension would handle on a big wheel bagger 26" or a fat 23"?...hopefully you'll do a video on this one day
The average punter has no clue how suspension works . Let alone how to adjust it properly for different conditions weight riding styles etc. I consider My skill level would be above average as a professional. The minute advantages of a properly adjusted Ohlins etc is just not worth the effort.Thats wy I run Wilbers set and forget
Have you tested Super Shox, I am getting ready to upgrade my shocks but there are so many.
Awesome review Ryan! Very helpful. Now let’s wait and see how quickly Wilbers will have this available for the new ‘24 models 🤞
Almost ready to be sold. RG will get adjustable cartridges as an additional option to the front springs. Just the final testing in winterly Germany
@@stefansgarage3014 Hi Stefan, thanks for the update and great news! I’m looking forward to Jan 24th for the launch of the 2024 models 😎. Have you got the cartridges installed on your bike? Any thoughts you can share? Or shall I wait for your video on that 😬.
@@maartenkok345 I would definitely share it, but we are way below freezing with lots of snow. Furthermore my Singlemalt is still with Wilbers in Northern Germany for the final tests. I will share everything as soon as I have her back and was able to ride.
@@stefansgarage3014 Thanks Stefan, I’ll wait for better weather ;-). I live in The Netherlands.. the weather is too bad to get on the bike now over here as well.. unfortunately..
so i run legend on my 2021 street glide and i'm not really happy with them i'm thinking about buying these Wilber rear shocks but 2K is a lot of money to me do you think it's worth it for me to switch to the Wilbers??? honestly? i just bought you're phone mount yesterday i cant wait to try it out!!
Interesting. Lots of people swear by the legends. I'm trying to decide on shocks, and forks eventually 😮
Legend's is good too. Just have terrible customer service when we dealt with them.
My 2012 switchback went into death wobble, went through some rough concrete while I was leaned over a little bit to one side on stock suspension running about 95mph.
I don't want to experience that again.
What would be your recommendation for my 2023 road king special ?
Thanks !
Hi and thanks for the great comparisons. Here's a question can you mix and match can I put a Olin on the front and a Wilbur on the rear ?
Technically you can, but I would stay within the brand. It is dialed in a designed by a single company. Öhlins stiffer, more race oriented, Wilbers more comfort and precision with self leveling in the rear. You have to check your personal specs list.
Thanks for all your great videos!!! Helped me a lot. Do you perhaps have a video how to setup the rebound on Ohlins rear suspension? I have a 2019 Road Glide special with Ohlins in the rear and Ohlins springs in the front. Thanks in advance.
Here ya go --> czcams.com/video/yoMhyC4IBUA/video.html
@@RyanUrlacher great! Thanks.
Give us some info on dyna suspension
After adjustment for just me riding. What happens when I have a passenger? DO I need to do a further adjustment when I have one and reverse back after?
No, the self leveling Nivomat will take care of any load changes. Remove the saddlebags only for cleaning the bike and always have the perfect preload.
Doesn't seem odd that no matter what suspension you put on a new HD Dresser that it will never ride as smooth as the new Wing Tour yet Honda (Showa) makes the OEM suspensions for both Harley and Honda? Of course, Showa builds to Harley specs.
I ride a Road Glide CVO 2022 with the awfull 21" frontwheel. The frontsuspension is really terrible. Will the Wilbers suspension be better at front and does the bike stears better with that suspension ? Or do i better change the 21" frontwheel for a 19" frontwheel ?
Never got a reply? What’d you end up doing? I have a 2022 envious green fade cvo and the suspension is shit. Debating on which to go with
I ride a 20 CVO LIMITED. The wife rides 90% of the time. I also pull a Bushtec trailer. I wondered what your opinion would would be
👍
One more question. What if I went air. Do you have a preference for systems on the market. Dirty Air ect.
Ohlins , come ready to ride if you take the time to give them your info. when ordering .remove old install new ride , love my onlins 536dr 13". legions junk .
So for the rear, you have to go through the hassle of setting sag if you throw someone on the back and pack all the luggage for a trip?
No, you set it once during the install and then it is self-leveling.
Nice Bike, Ryan!!!
Not mine. Oscar's bike though!! I still have my 2014 Street Glide Special.
Ok did I miss something? When did you get a new bike?
Not mine. Oscar's biker.
Ryan, has been eating good!
Have you tried Super Shocks? Curious about how they stack up against the more well known names. And they offer 3 levels. Why? Do they know there best cost too much? Thanks.
Have not tested those. Sorry
That Back Alley Road is about the worst place to get up over 10mph.
What kind/brand of backrest is on the motor in the video?
Stock. 2021 CVO Ultra
So then.... are you planning to upgrade your Ohlins to Wilburs?
How many open the owner’s manual and adjust for their fat behinds? Harley bikes are designed for skinny 150 pound lightweight riders. I haven’t weighed that since the 9th grade.
If I was to hazard a guess at the weight of the average Harley rider, I’d assume 250-300lbs. I’d hazard a guess at maybe 5% of HD riders weigh less than 200lbs, myself being one of them at 180lbs.
Wow 2 ad's total about 5 min before your video. That's gonna hurt peoples channel. Most people are not going to wait that long for ad's to run to watch video's.
are they available for Tri Glides ?
Yes they are, just not self-leveling in the rear-which are not necessary on a Trike. Klaus, the former owner of WilbersUSA (now retired) has them on his personal Trike.
DK Customs nex-gen shocks are the best I've tried. They put the other eye aftermarket to shame
What other brands have you installed and ridden long distance?
@@RyanUrlacher well, have you tried the DK Customs nex-gen? I guess gaslighting someone is easier
Nice 👍🏽
Thank you! Cheers!
Did our local Harley dealership close?
Not sure where you're from?
Did you take it down Front Street?
Everywhere. LOL~~ Rode the heck out of her and hit every pothole I could.
@@RyanUrlacher I recognize the alley. That neighborhood has some "rough" streets.
You forgot Super Shox...
So let’s do a video with both applications using both brands? Ohlin up front Wilber for the rear.
short answer: of course not but the dealer will sell you what you need to make your $37k motorcycle ride like a $17k motorcycle, the actual value.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👌
Shel video
Meh………I’ll take my RWD RS1’s over those rear shocks.
It seems like you buy a Harley … then totally rebuild the Harley you just bought. I don’t get it.
Also I notice we now have lifts, mini jacks, tools, etc….. sure it’s an easy job now Lolol….. love the videos. Thanks Ryan for your input and reviews. I always know I can cut to the chase watching these videos. One cop to another, stay safe and shiny side up!
Start selling solftail parts 😢 in your store.
We plan on it as we add to our store!!
Legends will not stand behind their product!
I bought a used 2016 Ultra Classic with 5 miles on it in 2020. I would NEVER EVER buy another. I bottomed out and topped out because the suspension was so bad. Ohlins replacements were basically $2k plus labor and there was no way I was going to pay that for a motorcycle. I could write a book on how bad the Ultra Classics are. I sold the bike after 9 months because it was a total PoS
We will never ever know which is the best suspension. Because a company will give you free suspension and it will be better than stock. Then the CZcamsr will promote that company.
I dont see any comparisons between companies by a CZcamsr. Legends vs Wilburs vs Ohlins. His main complaint is the dealership charged him 4.5 hrs to install them. He said they are not worth the price even though they are better than stock.
You should watch the video. LOL. I literally compare Wilbers, Ohlins, Progressive, and Legends. Don't just read titles.
@@RyanUrlacher But, do you tell us which gives the softest ride.