Nitrous Guzzling Ford Windsor Blasts Past 1,000 Horsepower!
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- Holley requested Prestige Motorsports (www.prestigemoto.com) build a nitrous powered Ford that could hit 1,000 horsepower -- but left it up to them how they did it. So we followed along as they built a small block Windsor capable of making big power all on its own, and then set up a nitrous system that would have been impossible just a few years before. Check out how they did it!
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0:00 - The Thousand Horsepower Challenge
1:26 - World Man O'War Block
3:04 - Eagle Crank & Rods, and DSS Pistons
5:17 - Oil pump, pickup & Canton Oil Pan
5:45 - Comp Cam Solid Roller Specs
7:04 - AFR Renegade Cylinder Heads
9:13 - Holley Hi-Ram Intake Manifold
10:18 - Valvetrain, Scorpion Endurance Rocker Arms
12:50 - Nitrous Oxide Systems (NOS) Big Shot Setup
14:46 - Engine Management with Holley Terminator X ECU
16:44 - Dyno Testing - Auta a dopravní prostředky
That engine is an absolute work of art. Between the boring, the forged internals, and the MPFI with the Holley intake manifold, the Terminator X, and the nitrous injection, this was a good setup. This would be PERFECT for a guy with a standard street/strip car who wants to dominate on the street and take it to the strip on the weekends. Daddy like!
Thank you!
@@prestigemotorsports
Do you think you could hit the 1,000hp goal with a hydraulic roller cam ?
The music coming in threw me LOL. No music guys just horse power
Thank you so much for not building another belly button LS. Love the high ram and agree that it's flow is nearly impossible to beat. Even without "squeeze" I'd be awfully happy with that engine.
You have built the perfect Ford! Also Horsepower Monster is the #1 engine building channel around. Thank you for taking all the time and effort to bring us along as you produce these videos. Also thank you to Prestige Motorsports for letting us watch how these awesome builds get put together
Thanks for the kind words! And thanks for watching
While everyone raves about an ls block I’ll take a 351 modified block any day of the week Ford power is more power
What a beautiful hunk of metal.
Lots of cutting edge technology and high quality components went into this one.
That block is one piece of real HEAVY METAL! I'll be sure to investigate Mano'war, sold on the main bearing webbing and those beefy end caps. As always, great video with loads of info and tips. Really enjoyed this, thanks 👍🏻
Easily one of the best engine building CZcams channels! Keep up the awesome work!
Wow, thanks!
F*cking Awesome! Y’all are the KING! Blue Oval Power and Prestige are my Wet Dream Engine Builder and I’ll NEVER be able to afford anything the build but dammit I can Dream about having one of their Windsor 427/460’s dropped into my old ‘05 F150 STX!!!🤘🏼
Now that is a interesting SB Ford engine build with all the extra spicey parts and mods you want!I love that intake and the nitrous set-up with the Holley terminator x is spot-on🤠
The title should have included SBF. Thank you for showing another Ford build. 👍 What fuel was used and what was static compression? Thank you.
We need a BBC vs BBF! Power nation did it a while back and they built the balls out of the BBC and screwed the BBF over !! So all the bow tie boys we’re talking smack LOL.
Came straight from a fresh Richard Holdener video to here... winning like charlie sheen.
Holdener does great work. I like his videos, too. Thanks for watching!
@@TheHorsepowerMonster Thanks for the awesome videos! Your content, info, & editing are second to none, especially considering this is all free for me as a consumer. Keep up the great stuff.
I’m running a Holley sniper x flow on my 383 stroker, and It’s works great and is a blast to go out and play with
Great video as always, thanks for your work
Great video! Love that Sniper technology, simply amazing what a system can do today!
Thanks a lot! And thanks for watching
After watching this video I'll be switching to Holley EFi over the winter..Good stuff exactly what I needed to know.
Another great video brother keep them coming
Thank you very much! And thanks for watching!
MAN IM IMPRESSED THAT IS A BEAST, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK GUYS
Thanks!
Very interesting video. Power in a bottle that can be gradually added. Thank you.
Superb video my Friend
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
Awesome job on that engine great engine build thanks
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
Awesome job!!!!
O my God I'm in love 351w to 427 motors like this make me won't to cry
Awesome motor!
Unless you did some grinding, it looks like the non-machined surfaces are very smooth. That's a damn nice piece of casting.
Perhaps altering the PID Control of the absorber could help with that spike area. Also torque starts to decrease rapidly relative to the All Motor torque. An interpolation from 75% Solenoid Duty Cycle @ 6200rpm to around 85% @7200 rpm could help with the rpm and time limiting factor and ensure the cylinders receive the same amount of nitrous even as rpm increases. Not trying to be a smart as, just throwing out ideas lol. Great Video!
You mentioned in the cam specs it was .430 lift, but when talking about the valve springs you mentioned you’d need every bit of lift they’d let you have. Did I miss something? Lol
Love how detailed your videos are! Fine work for sure. Love how not every engine combo is some sorta big secret
.430 is tappet lift only, You need to X times rocker ratio to get valve lift which they stated as .690 ish
@@blueblood76 I was thinking that, but wanted to make sure I wasn’t wrong in that thought process. Thanks for clearing that up!
Nothing like a good nitrous purge
I want to see a Chevy 4.3 v6 build.. stroker for maximum horsepower for us s10 guys
Some of us Sonoma guys prefer to stick with vicious small block stroker v-8's.:) like 641hp@6400 and 560 ft lbs.@5700 N/A 89 octane with a 400 shot of juice on the side.............
Haven't heard "throttle in a bottle" in a while and it's definitely healthy. It's amazing how technology has evolved to help the longevity of performance cars nowadays. Thanks for another great video and sharing. 👊👊👍👍✌✌
Thanks a lot!
Will I just found who iam going through to get my engine built. Without a doubt 👍
that is some awesome power and tourqe would be a fun engine
Nice build 👍👍
Very good job!
Awesome build and video. I was wondering what caused the spike and dip on the chart.
You should put this or the 460 small block na engine in a 1963 1/2 ford falcon sprint back halfed with a roll cage pro street style🔥
You have such a cool job
WOW....Thanks...!
Great video as always, Jeff!
Thanks!
@@TheHorsepowerMonster Question for you two: In order to control only 75%, is your terminator module treating the nitrous solenoid as an injector? I mean, "pulsing" the solenoid? As we can see 19:53 nitrous line vibrates and nitrous injection oscillating right? Just trying to understand as I liked very much the video!
@@guzforce Yes, the solenoid is still either on or off, so to get progressive control the Terminator X has to pulse the solenoid, essentially turning it on for short periods to achieve whatever percentage of flow you want.
@@TheHorsepowerMonster Really interesting and clever! Just thinking about a kit! Hey, great video and thank you very much for clarifying the question!
Impressive!
That's pretty cool the way the nitrous rolls in rather than hitting like a hammer.
awesome video. this thing insane. just quick question, do you kmow what clamps they used for the ignition leads to keep them tucked up?
I'm thinking this engine in a 1964 Ford Falcon would work nicely.
I had planned to use my 427 FE center oiler but now, maybe not!
Very interesting 👌
Exactly.. cousins big block Chevy version with tunnel ram on the correct mechanical tune .. it was a constant upper change over at 5200- up . Eyes balls started with the brain touches. .
I was done. Lol fast as hell . !
This brings tears to my eyes. LS be damned.
The engine had a pretty good stumble @ 19:57 when the nitrous first hit. It's hard to tell from looking through the throttle body at the spray bar, but it looked like there may have been some air or gaseous nitrous in the line as it first came on possibly?
Edit: Heard it again @ 20:14. Is this the ECU compensating for not using a fuel pill in the plate? My experience with an N2O plate system is that it hits HARD, smooth, and with no stumble, even if I use a progressive controller. Maybe it's normal, but this engine sounds so different when the nitrous comes on than to what I'm used to hearing.
Cool!
God help the lucky winner's tire budget !!!!! Great stuff here !!!!!
how many years do they season those cast iron blocks before they are machined?????
It is amazing how far nitrous technology has come. Nitrous was a science years ago. If you didn’t study hard and dot your i’s and cross your t’s you were gonna blow your engine sky high. Now you can be a novice and still play around with it.
What fuel was used for this dyno session and also what was the octane
Skoosh 😍
Try using total seal rings
How much for one of these builds?
They must really like those Bam lifters. They put them in everything
Use what you trust I guess lol
THAT'S THE SIZE MOTOR I'D LIKE TO PUT IN MY 1964 FAIRLANE.
why isn't a gear cam drive on these builds?
BadAss!!!!!!! Do the same thing to a Chrysler hemi and see a huge difference with that hemispherical head I love technology fuel injection and nitrous is badass good job guys
WHY HAS THIS TECHNOLOGY TAKEN THIS LONG????????
It hasn't, it's been around for quite some time now. We ran a similar setup with Big stuff 3 ( basically F.a.s.t engine management) back in 2003. It was a Disomma 428 sbf with Neal BF202's heads that made 843hp on motor and 1200hp+ with nitrous. We used the injectors to supply all the fuel just like this. Also had a sheetmetal tunnel ram. Although this Holley system is definitely much easier for the user for sure.
@@waynebollentin989 sorry about the CAPS!! in the moment ya know. I'm just messin around and I really enjoy this stuff plus your videos!!! thank you,, you guyz
Wa-Pow Wa-Pow!!!!!
I am the great Cornholio! Heh heh heh...🤣 🤣 🤣 Thanks for bringing back some good memories with the name and profile picture. I miss Beavis and Butt-Head.
@@Brock_Landers thats why I did it brother. Glad you got a laugh out of it.
Could a 4 bolt mains 350 easily do this as well?
You bet
What is the yellow masking tape for @11:04
so when they wipe off the excess silicone sealer for the china rail it doesn't get onto the front of the block. They pull the tape off and the extra silicone comes with it. Just a cosmetic thing, but it does help the completed engine look better.
The tires are going to have the same problem with that ramp lol. Maybe bring it in little slower.
True!
Efi is the way too go
That fella doing the port match grinds aluminum without a respirator or even a dust mask? He won't live long past 50 without COPD
What were the rings gapped at?
a meter
You can get a Ford straight 6 Australian barra 2000 hp
Use both sides of the nitrous plate for nitrous by turning the fuel side into nitrous also.
Would melt pistons?
@@larrynorsworthy8582 No...since the injectors are going to up the fuel delivery.
@@larrynorsworthy8582 Won’t melt pistons because the Efi is controlling TIMING. NO DETONATION TO HURT PARTS.
@@lildno2007 lean out
count how many times he says BROKERS NAME
A V8 running at 6000rpm has 400 intake strokes per second with the engine management system setting the timing and quantity of fuel delivery. Watching this video, the the nitrous spray appears to pulse relatively slowly which suggests to me that the amount of nitrous going into each cylinder will vary between each stroke. I cannot see how you can get a precise nitrous/fuel ratio in each cylinder especially at high rpm
Remember you’re watching a video that plays at 60 frames per second so your probably not seeing exactly what the nitrous is spraying. Also the inlet runners are drawing from a common plenum with all sorts of reversion going on, it’s like a washing machine in there. Check this vid out to try n show just what goes on. Also the nitrous is just adding extra oxygen to what is being drawn in thru the throttle bodies and the ecu is adding enough fuel based off the wideband O2 to compensate.
I’m certainly no expert but there’s a lot more going on than what you’re seeing in the vid.
czcams.com/video/7Iq1B-2paCs/video.html
Thank you Robert! Finally somebody that sees the imprecision of the existing nitrous technology. Plus while the bottle is cooling down during the spray, the pressure decreases. Multi stages and pwm progressive nitrous solenoid control is an improvement but the nitrous volume still doesn’t precisely match the changing volume of intake air. I believe a nitrous system should be almost exactly like an efi system with a nitrous pump with regulator and port solenoid injectors that are regulated based off rpm, air temperature, and intake air volume.
If you love machine work put eagle internals in your block.
45 second...... is that Julian from trailer park boys?
I want to see a torque monster 3k rpm max that's more my speed
Think I would have went with some highport heads
Yeah. Guess when it's a give away engine they want it to fit under as many different hoods as possible though.
@@joecook3223 yeah or some dart Pro's
@@PatrickScottlxw
Why ?
At .700 lift, which is about the lift of the cam/rocker arm combo they used, the AFR 220 CNC heads flow the same as the Dart Pro1 20° 225cc CNC heads on the intake and the AFR heads outflow the Dart heads on the exhaust.
www.airflowresearch.com/220cc-sbf-competition-cylinder-head/
2ovflq8a2if23r0004f29t3i-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/PRO1-225-CNC-Ford-Tech-Sheet-H33.pdf
I would rather see if they could hit the 1,000hp goal with a hydraulic roller cam. Much less likely to fail than that solid roller setup.
@@JohnSmith-ps7wp Old guy limited roller experience , effect of hydraulic cushion ?
@@JohnSmith-ps7wp ; I can't for the life of me figure why you would think the solid roller more prone to failure over the hydraulic roller cam. With proper valve train i'll check my lash once a year as a courtesy.
Why in hell are you holding it at 75% for the entire run🤣🤣🤣
Apart from the occasional stupid music this video is brilliant.
Earmuffs!!!!! My ears hurt just watching him port the intake 😬
pwm is the best
Another video this month of someone putting in a camshaft without covering it with assembly lube as they go. That makes two this month. What in the hell is the world coming to??????
A lot of engine builders I work with prefer to lubricate the cam bearings with a brush before installing the cam. With a roller cam, sometimes they will lube up the lobes and sometimes they won't. The thinking is the engine will be primed before first fire up and that will push oil out of the pre-filled roller lifters and onto the lobes and roller wheels. It seems that different parts of the country have different practices. Either way seems to work
@@TheHorsepowerMonster both the guys who taught me. my vocational school teacher and my teacher from technical college would have had a damn stroke if they saw that. But those guys were old back in the late 90s early 2000s. So they've probably did have a stroke or something by now. Everything in the valve train gets soaked and covered.
I hear ya. When I put together an engine, which isn't as often as I'd like lately, I definitely get excessive with the assembly lube. But be warned, I've got more engine build videos coming up from both Prestige Motorsports and Harrell Engine and Dyno, so you are probably going to see more of it. I'm hoping to do a ProCharged Ford and a bucks-down big block for Hot Rod Drag week, so it should be worth it. By the way, Jay, who assembles at HED, was trained at one of the NASCAR Cup shops and he's one of the most particular engine assemblers I've ever had the opportunity to work with. Thanks for watching
@@TheHorsepowerMonster thanks for making these videos. I've always enjoyed these videos and all three of my domains are subscribed to you so keep up the good work. And we'll enjoy internal combustion while we still can.
The thumbnail's an inline 6?
No, it's the top half of the Ford Windsor V8 that's built in the video. It may look confusing because that's the plenum of the Holley Hi-Ram intake you can see and it may look like a straight 6 valve cover to you.
Didn't sound happy at all on spray.
Have y'all considered reaching out to fellow youtube channels like cleetus mcfarland for a collaboration? I think y'all would create something really great!
Cleetus is peanut gallery. Aim higher.
Would be cool, i guess cleetus is pretty well associated with Texas speed and to a smaller degree blueprint engines, so probably unlikely to happen when they've got good working relationships with them. Would be cool if horsepower monster could do some filming at Texas speed though!
Oh yeah sure, a street engine with a powerband starting at 4K. That thing is gonna be an absolute dog on the street until you hit 5,500 RPM.
The dyno pull just started at 4,000 rpm -- where it was making 468 foot pounds of torque. It's still got plenty of torque down low. At 2,000 rpm it will still be making around 275 foot pounds at least.
Not 427ci, it is 414ci. 4.125"x4"x8cylindersx3.1426(pi) doesn't equal 427. That block is serious bad ass. Those mains have the meat!
B÷2 =R2×Pi×S×N.C.=CID
4 inch stroke and 4.125 bore gets you 427 cubic inches
www.wallaceracing.com/cid.php
Why delete the 2 replies ??
Not a fan of Nitrous, one thing one cannot be street legal in cars. That's no fun !!!