Sen TenZ On Difference Between Valorant & Counter Strike 2
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Played both for a long time. I mean he's not wrong on this. More often a have to aim standing still and be precise in Valo, in cs a big part is spray control and movement
I play both games but CS2 just feels like its aiming mechanics is heading towards valorant, the spray and recoil in cs2 is horrendous the amount of times the bullets don’t register. Tapping and bursting in cs2 however feels very nice which is strange
its the low tick rate servers that cause bullets not to register. Shit netcode. While valorant makes it to easy to one tap people. but u can spray with the phantom too.
@@thomasre9382 I thought so, it had to be netcode issue because some of the shots I hit shouldn't be landing and the shots I should land aren't landing...
Valorant soyboys not realizing that cs2 isnt even out yet...AND ITS STILL MILES BETTTER THAN THEIR CHILDRESN MOBILE GAME LMAO
@@KolyaUrtzvalarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism so need child game to relax
@@thomasre9382 even on valve's 64 tick in csgo spraying wasn't as horrendous, maybe they're using 32 tick 🤣
I love how on a valorant channel, people are pretty chill anout cs2, yet on every cs channel that talks about valorant theres a ton of people hating on valorant in the comments. Really shows which game has a more mature fanbase
Well most of the Valorant players are kids who likely don't know much about CS because they didn't grow up playing it. And some of them have contributed to the bad rap that Valorant has now
@@troysmithfr lol your comment is exactly what he talks about
@@troysmithfr bro read what he wrote first before typing the reply
I think it's because a lot of Valorant players have played some CS before and know that each game has different strengths. I doubt a lot of the CS fanboys have spent much time playing Val if at all and just assume it's a knock off.
@@danimuara1917 Not really, it was just an elaboration.
"I chose my path, you chose the way of the hero. And they found you amusing for a while, the people of this city. But the one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you."....... CS frogs rn
good thing they made smoke grenades bloom downwards now so those kind of valorant one ways are not possible anymore either (so far ive not seen a single one)
I love spraying wish I can do it in valorant specially spray transfer makes you feel like a GOD if you done it but it's kinda impossible sometimes in valorant. its really a burst fire-strafe type of competitive game
Im playing cs. Tried valo several times but all those weird flashy colorful animations and the shit ton of abilities agents have are just not my vibe. But I suppose that some people especially like those aspects. Whats pissing me off is that valo feels soooo slow, very often i used that robo agent which had similar abilities to cs and was pretty much destroying every opponent just with my pure aim. Probably because i havent played enough matches to get a fair rank
I could say the same about CS:GO. I joined a CS:GO placement match after 2500 hours in Valorant, and dropped around 30 kills purely off my Aim. The Mechanics transfers to every other fps games for me. The moment you understand Crosshair Placement you kinda alr a couple steps above other low ranking player, this applies to other FPS games.
Feel like holding angles in CS2 is way worse than GO. Something with the interp and lag comp. you can be 30 ping going against someone with 10 ping and it’ll feel like you are on 100 ping. In GO anything below 30 ping felt pretty much the same.
Definitely. The game is still early as hell. Undercooked. We know valve is good to fix it though. They will get it feeling nice. I think people believe that spraying got nerfed, but truly it's the visual feedback that is bugged (confirmed by many different people at this point) and the interp and peekers advantage makes it feel bad too.
It's all stuff that will obviously get fixed, but it does really suck that they didn't just call this open beta. Especially since no new content came out with it.
Inferno looks so diff!!
hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
Hopefully cs2 gunplay will be at equal footing with csgo
They broke the tick system and introduced a ton of desync. Very unlikely to contest a game whose core mechanics went unchanged for a decade because they were already near perfect
I like spraying more in Counter strike so i don't wanna see it move towards valorant tap shooting meta
spray and movement is what makes csgo a unique goat thats easy learn but almost impossible to master. Hope they don't mess with the spray.
He is right.
Both great game, but if i need to pick 1 is depend.
If playin for fun ill go for val.
If compe/try hard ill go for cs.
The problem with valo is their matchmaking and hidden MMR, make rank skill gap really low diff between ASC1 and IMMO 3
Im moving to cs2 because after 3 years, Riot still hasn't been able to fix the lag compensation issue that's plaguing the netcode. Horrible inconsistency all across the board
Glad that someone else knows the problem with valo.
This. I swear netcode moves my intended crosshair target by about an inch if i do it too fast. It can't cope.
@@kal.astherits not even a bug, they do it on purpose so casuals have a chance agaisnt better players. Why do you think they have so much RNG in their game? Its not just a coincidence. If valorants gunplay was actually skillbased it would be the top FPS game out right now 100% provided they started making actual cool agent designs.
Or you could just play more than one game
thats ironic because CS2 suffers from the same issue but even worse.
i love both games tbh
Idk I never sprayed in cs, I just click head
I don’t know why people keep comparing them. It is completely different games to me. ??
I mean the core mechanics of Valorant were inspired from CS- the movement, the economy, the rounds, and even the the way the weapons function. Of course they aren’t 100% identical, but where there is similarity, there will always be comparisons.
Valorant copied everything from cs and overwatch...which copied everything from tf...so basically valorant copied everything from valve
Ye and apex copied fortnite which copied pubg which copied something else, its called a genre
Valve doesn't want the community of people who "play valorant or CSGO"
But people who "play valorant and also CSGO"
Thats how they will keep the game alive with amount of cheaters in CS no one likes to play it soo valve wants to attract those players back who are creammed by Vangaurd
cs is going to val, and val is going to cs
💀 With how much abilities and ults are getting nerfed in val. Yeah.. this sounds about right.
val is never gonna be like cs (in a good way), cs trying to not fall into the deep... but they gonna end disappointing like always. 10 years making people play gc/faceit because their own servers are thrash, nah.
@@perukanotdead I came from tf2 where bots and cheaters were rampant. How bad was it in cs?
@@sierrachong8040almost the same if not worse. i played a cs deathmatch and it's just filled with standing still/spinning bots. While random f2p competitive games have cheaters that kill you while they're moving.
more like val was inspired by 1.6 and now cs is going back to 1.6 with mr12 and buy menu, I used to think the same thing as you
Valorant and lol wouldn’t exist without valve, end of debate
lol surpassed val so it hardly matters
@@xzul1099Meh, they are both up there
Where did this comment come from? Who are you mad at?
Humans come from monkey doesn't mean monkey is better
As a cs player who played both games. I’m happy there’s valorant. About time valve had competition to make updates
Do people understand that it's still just a beta and they have bugs to fix? they will fix the shitty spray and movement
Actually i love the tap gameplay on valorant, so if you have the tap gameplay without a random spray cs2 will be the best game ever for me. their is many shit in cs2 but its a beta. If they fix the spray, the colision and better server, this will be the best competitiv game all time.
You already have tap in csgo though? What do you mean?
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin "tap gameplay" i never said their is no tap in csgo just its less regular, you just need to watch pro match in csgo and their is less one tap than spray kill. its probably 70 % spray kill if its not more in pro match.
@@Shockwave724 Its whatever is more consistent. People like screaM still destroy sprayers.
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin hum clearly not he has insane mecanic but wasn't at all tier A and S proplayer.
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin yes, you say it he kills sprayers not pro players one tapping.
He's right, cs are going the direction to Valorant with the same mm player ranking system, buy/sell weapon option, weapon firing feels weird and some ui that are familiar to valorant, It seems like they have ran out of idea. They should've kept source 2 back then and fix it, such a shame.
i mean besides the weapon firing feeling weird, which is not final (beta), the things that CS copied from valorant are just positive for the game. There is no shame on copying something that is good.
@@pedrorezende4873Fr tho the reason why a lot of casual players get into Val is because it’s a bit more intuitive. If CS is trying to get more players to the game, then copying something that is intuitive to most isn’t particularly a bad thing. They’re not running out of ideas, they’re just making it more accessible. It is a business after all, so more players means more money.
@@pedrorezende4873 I don't really care much about the copying, the problem is they have to wait almost 5-8 years just to add source 2 engine in the game, new mm system and some crappy ui design like valorant lol it doesn't even have a new maps or guns or something. For a big company like valve that is such a shame tbf and call it cs2 too
@@dylanindahousethey had to rebuild from the ground up. And there is way less spaghetti code.
@@dylanindahousethey are just modernizing the UI. It is only your opinion that it looks like ui from valorant
The best valorant player doesn't even made it to the bench in CS competitive level top tier teams while flop CS players can go and win Championship in Valorant.😂😂.
omfg if valorant its a tap game ... why i dont play valorant im f*ng idiot! :)))
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ok im finished watching this...watch new TSM csgo first game highlight next
I watched their match today and they got shit on so bad
@@seeko555 sometimes they win sometimes they lose thats life...
@@Shazzgaming interz and modo got potential
Overwatch 2 repeat
Chinese malware
Cs2 its 90% cheaters
as a valorant player (immo peak) i would definitely choose cs over valorant.
(immo peak)
whats ur reasons
@@sai-pv3fv also valorant is just straight up becoming a trash game in this patch where they broke every fucking agent's meta especially Jett. Also i hate to break it to you the last skin bundle that was totally good was prelude to chaos after that, everything was just ass and waste of money even this new imperium bundle (it looks like oni and sarmad had sex and forsaken and tigris Skinline are the distant cousins). Riot is just moneymaking company i won't wonder if they add agent's skin in the near future to make it more pay to win.
@@kurumauchiha153 read the reply above. Also I'd add the community to that point.
@@kurumauchiha153 also bro i get it cause the new agent is gonna be a duelist that's why they destroyed the Jett meta with the single updraft, but as everyone knows that nobody plays the new agents they're adding. Like take this last vct for example it had 0% deadlock pickrate.
At this point riot is just gonna nerf every agent until it becomes an only shooting game without any abilities. And if that's the case then ain't CS better than valorant?
I play both cs and val. Cs sucks
Cs>>>> shit >> valorant
Why so mad, who hurt you?
Valorant still better
Ye. Cs players, the ol braindead spray & pray meta. Yoinks.
Tap the head anyone who sprays you, you win. Why do you think screaM was so successful?
This clown saying cs isnt a "tappy" game, k....
tenzy forgot about scream
CSGO is so much better than cs2
The amount of crying cs players
They don't want their game to go in a similar direction to valorant if possible, that's all. Valorant is more for casual gamers, which is why hardcore CS fans cringe whenever they are compared.
@@mikerobertson8540 You mean Valorant is more fun at all levels?
@@mikerobertson8540That makes no sense tapping over spraying is literally more "hardcore."
@@User-xw6kd Spraying is more effective in CS because of how the bullet patterns work, on top of the fact that player models move like they are on skates as compared to valorants much lower movement speed, as well as the head hitboxes being smaller in CS. One-tapping is still a massive part of CS, not sure why Tenz seemed to imply it wasn't.
@@mikerobertson8540hes saying taping is more hardcore(realistic) cuz thats what its like in real life u cant just dump ur whole mag all at once from a decent distance and control it
cs2 is pretty dogshit right now, im just opening cases and not playing lmffao
Valorant players are delusional in the comments
COMPLETELY.
cs has the most delusional community in the whole gaming industry.
@@momentaufnahmen
@@snoxh2187 xDDDDDDDDDDDD
Valorant is trash game like lol dead game for all over years
its not dead yet, but yes it is trash
This type of one way where you can only see their feet has always been in cs. The most common one is smoking on top of the wall by first oranges and you can see their feet. These one ways arnt even good compared to the ones that cs players normally use where you can hide in them and be invisible. So no it’s no copying valorant again valo copied cs
Valorant is a VR chat on steroids its a dating game for soft people 😂
I just want csgo bhop back .. and f*ck valo .. i played valo for 300 hrs .. its like bots standing and only do one taps and do some abilites .. only good character was chamber and they even nerfed that.. cs2 is way better and hard
i play valorant 2 years and
yesterday I came in for the first time to try cs go and feels like so ez
lmao it does .. if felt like that for me too ,its because low rank matchmaking ... just install faceit and play few matches .. u ll know the experience betweeen u and others who has 10k hours in FPS aim
Currently the matchmaking is fucked I've seen 1.7k player beat the shit out of a 9.5k
CS players hate valorant because it’s a copy of it except with abilities… and generally not as much skill, any decent valorant player head on over to CS and the to get there top rank. You’ll be embarrassed by Europeans and Russians playing on a broken desk with splinters before you probably reach silver
Lets just say, valorant is more competitive and harder. Never played cs before and got legendary eagle master less than a week. There is not a lot that you can do in cs, than using just guns, smoke, flash and molly. Everyone that I know who plays valo also told me that which is interesting 😁
Valorant is more competitive and harder 😂 yea keep telling ur self that. Hero shooter in general strategy revolve based around the game dev, lots of strat r only viable until the so called "balance change" said "fuck it". Also ur mechanical skill is "soft locked" behind ur role. While as cs most strategy from 10 years ago r still viable to this day, ppl only made counter strategy and other ppl make counter-counter strategy for it, so yea i believe you'll imagine how deep and variety of strat r there in csgo nowaday. And cs gives everyone the same ultilities, which mean the only thing limit you is your mechanical skill and ability to change role and adapt to strategy mid round. Like chess, strategy has no limit, only increase as time goes on
@@JayB_GB blud wake up, the game exists since 1978 and its the same since decades. Im almost global in less than 2 weeks, solo queue. If you play valo solo queue you will never achieve that so fast. Even faceit lvl 10 players are dog, ive met so many lvl 10 faceit players that aren't better than me. For somone who startet this game for not long, that should be a shame and that means csgo is easier.
blud i played cs for 6k hours got imm3 256 rr my first act on val in less than 2 1/2 weeks. Legendary eagle is dog no one plays mm seriously. me and my bud duo q and troll and were both global. Granted he played advanced, we at no point ever try in mm.
@@mojit27 how can you know u r better than faceit lvl10 🤣? For someone who barely reach legendary eagle while csgo itself is having a rank influction problem i awfully believe that u just making assumption, stup1d assumption it is cause ain't no way you met a faceit lvl10 with a new account, especially when you failed to realize most of valorant abilities is just glorified version of flash smoke molly nade 💀 basically perform it's core function having some twist here and there (poison, block bullet, slow down enemies,... valorant player when they finally realize all their cool abilities is just the illusion of choice, and actually having to focus on fps fundamentals 🤣
@@JayB_GB mad much?
as someone who plays both games cs2 is definitely going to die horribly. people are already bored of cs and the only thing they are really adding is changed smokes. its joever guys
You don't know why cs2 change is important. It's in the code the game is similar to csgo which has been popular for many years and often has higher player count than valorant
@@michael2592 cs is done kid im sorry to say. valorant gets 4 times the twitch viewers and cs gets none, everyone is bored of that old ded game
@scribbles5027 twitch isn't all that matters. Younger users watch twitch more. Also csgo still gets more players so what are you saying?
@@michael2592 it gets more bots true but they dont count. and yes, twitch views correlate to a games popularity. i dare you to find me a game with 100 viewers thats popular, it doesnt exist.
@scribbles5027 well if you ignore some statistics but agree with others I can't argue with you. Either you are open minded or close minded like you are.
Tried cs2 today, damn the game is much better than csgo in every aspect, finally another decent fps game to play beside valorant.
“much better than csgo in every aspect”, alright man.
CS gonna become a dead eventually, most of the players that still play the game are og CS players. i can assure you young people will mostly prefere to play valo instead of CS which shows the longevity of the game where most CS players are reaching their 30s.
Lol all the dad's children will keep Cs alive don't worry
I've played both val is mid cs actually has charm and a community along with better gameplay
No new young players are gonna play valo if riot keep adding new agent every time it is just too overwhelming
cs will forever be simple but hard to master
@@charlesabraham7586 uh i guess that works, i imagine a full lobby of dads complaining about their son the same way how CS players complain about valo 🤣
@@michael2592 each to their own i guess
Cs copied valo cs still dead thou
It’s the most played game on steam but yea it’s totally dead
AND WHAT VAL is not on steam@@ryan7102
everything valo has is ripped off of another game, the game is ass
valarante childrens game
@@ryan7102 thats not saying much lol
CS players get off on their game being "harder" than Valorant as if it's objectively better for a game to be clunky and outmoded like CS is lmao
games that are more intuitive are more fun, and will attract more players (which means a higher sample size and generally higher top tier talent)
Clunky? Cs some of the best movement in any tac shooter
Bunch of washed up cs player can win trophy and had more viewers in champions is enough speaking how easy valo is.
@@endp1436 new val talent is way better than new cs talent lol ur coping
G0desy and Donk clears any new val talents
@@Aefaxin gun skill or spamming abilities? S1mple climbed to radiant in a week of playing valorant without using abilities buddy. CS players are on a completely different level, even with the shitty gunplay of valorant.