Celtics win NBA Finals, Jets ‘willing to roll with’ Rodgers, Is Caitlin Clark a target? | THE HERD
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- The Boston Celtics won their 18th championship last night, beating the Dallas Mavericks in 5 games. Colin Cowherd and Nick Wright discuss the 2023-24 Celtics and if they’re an all-time great team, and if Aaron Rodgers missing the New York Jets minicamp has been blown out of proportion. Plus, they ask why Caitlin Clark has become a target.
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Only deviation I had for this particular discussion was that the way Caitlan Clark and Angel Reese have handled the situation could not be more different:
CC: I'm just trying to make a layup and play basketball
AR: I guess some people get "special whistles"
I'm sorry, but these two reactions are not comparable, even if both are playing well per the basketball rivalry...
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Nick my guy but he has to eat crow. He said Dallas was gonna win in 5 or 6 lmao they got Molly whopped
At least he gave it up
He knew that after game 2 but had to stick to his pick. We all knew Boston was the better team. The only hope for Dallas was for Luka and Kyrie to go crazy every game
Yeah, he was wrong. You never been wrong before? It happens to everybody. You just move on. Not a huge deal
@@gageboone1885 👍🏾
@@gageboone1885hes consistently wrong
Nick forgot to mention someone who led his team to a finals appearance at a younger age than Luka... Jayson Tatum, he was 24 years old when they lost in 2022. 🤔
Difference is Luka was the reason his team was there and the reason there was any competitiveness in the series. Tatum was the reason the Celtics lost despite being on a far more stacked team in 2022 than the Mavs this year
@@tiyanuYou can’t watch Luka’s defense and come to this conclusion. He literally gave up more points than he would give you on the other end. Also every game he would tire out by the 4th quarter.
He's only 19!
We was not stacked 2022 warriors was old but they had experience and it showed Curry Poole Green Klay showed us what it meant to be a champion
Lebron was 22
Started off with straight hate by Collin 😂
He just mad he was wrong all along about the Celtics
He mad Tatum a champion
@@GoatedAtNFSlol Colin loves being wrong because he knows more people tune in. You really don’t know
9:10 “Skipped work to do drugs” 😂
Nick was a big Covid vaccine proponent.
Wait, that’s not relevant
😂😂😂
This segment is hilarious 😂
Pretty cool that Colin is at his mogul stage where he can get stand up comedians to join his show.
He's the comedian. And not the good kind😬
Thumbs up !!
people don't realize how much more dominant they would've looked had porzingis been healthy for the playoffs... the fact that they still rolled without him should make it even more impressive
Imagine if the Heat didn’t lose Butler, imagine if the Cavs didn’t lose Allen and Mitchell, imagine if the Pacers didn’t lose Haliburton, imagine if the Bucks didn’t lose Giannis…
@@BabylonGateLAHeat lost by an average of 20 points in the games they lost, butler wouldn't have changed that. Cavs and pacers both lost with their star players being there and without. Bucks are the only one you could say, but they'd also get cooked by the celtics 5 out offense.
@@swup9851 Who’s defending Giannis after they lost their Giannis stopper in Grant Williams?! Congrats on the Celtics chip, but they had a cake walk due to all the injuries
@@BabylonGateLA You're acting like the Celtics weren't the number 1 seed for a reason? They beat all of those teams in the regular season. And then everyone said the West was way better than the East? Well, the Celtics just smashed the best team from the West & one of the top 2 players in the league. When is everyone going to realize that this might've just been their year?
Oh, and not getting injured is a skill, and part of every sport. Jimmy Butler gets injured all the time, which is why he's not considered elite. If Jordan was injured as much, he wouldn't have been the GOAT. Part of your skill as a player is your ability to stay healthy. Quit the excuses.
Agreed. With a healthy Kristaps, they maybe don't lose a game ❤
Colin and Nick are both so happy Rodgers is back so they can rag on him all season
He needs to be ragged on acting like he's Tom Brady an only has won 1 superbowl under his belt, he's not even Patrick Mahomes at this point he needs to stop acting likes he's a god with his cocky additude an im from Wisconsin I'm glad he's gone we are going to be fine with Jordan love an no more Aaron Rodgers drama.
Nick is out of control with his Luka love. 😂
and the rest of the media is out of control with their Luka hate
@@TripleD2156 exactly. It balances out
He senses LeBron is about to retire and Bronny ain’t gonna be in these type of convos. He found his pivot but sadly, I don’t think Luka is making 8 straight NBA Finals
@@TripleD2156because until luka wins a title title he's being overhyped all the greatest players have won titles, bird magic, Jordan, kobe, LeBron steph, jokic so until luka wins a title, he doesn't get to sit at the table with these guys, he's not getting special privileges because people like you want to put him in the goat conversations, goats win titles.
@@CharlesWilkinson-yc3dmSteph is wildly overrated.
I’m tired of the CC vs angel reese race war why can’t America just be normal for once
Unfortunately the country was built on it..
@@GODISGREAT_12news flash almost every country was
It’s the left’s fault. They make everything about race and they’re now using the WNBA to push their agenda
The genocide of it's Indigenous people and the enslavement of Africans are soaked deep into the soil of America. Instead of financing ALL of "The Holy Wars" around the world our so called "leaders" need to educate, and regain our youth. Our education system is a joke. Break it down. Let's teach these kids how to build house. Summer jobs rebuilding a fractured infrastructure.
Because there is no money in being normal
The Celtics just won one title and suddenly the media is bringing up the conversation on whether or not they stack up to literal dynasties. They are setting this team up to impossible standards just so they can bring them down since winning the chip has invalidated pretty much every talking point they had against the Celtics all year.
As a Cs fan, I was waiting for Nick’s reaction. Mavs in 5 huh? 😂
These games don’t matter to Nick, he was going to ride Luka regardless and give Jayson and Jaylen no credit
He meant Mavericks are going to lose in five
Saying that Angel handles the media just as well as CC is an absolute joke.😂
Absolute joke💯
It’s hypocritical of Nick to a 25 y/o Luke can’t be criticized for underperforming in the finals, when he tried to destroy a 24 y/o Tatum for doing the same. Don’t use the he had better teammates argument at 24, you mean like Porzingus, Kyrie, Grant Williams? Defense and non iso-centric offense matter in the playoffs, if he doesn’t become a better rounded player he’ll never win a chip
Thank u for saying this , I was gonna say the same thing
It is very normal for us to give a break and a pass to a guy who carries a team that’s not that good to the finals like Luca did when he is in his early 20s. We did the same thing for LeBron and we have the same thing for other guys specially, when they face a team that is way better than them
Tbf he thinks LBJ is the goat and he fell on his face in 3 finals😂
.nick wright its killing you ,Boston gentleman swept your mavs
Wright is wrong again.
He really can't stand when Boston teams have success. It's fun to watch him suffer.
The fact that Nick and Colin actually tried to BS all of the viewers with acting like Angel reese has handled this with class is ridiculous. Reese obviously has a grudge against Clark and it is completely obvious and she does things that are villain like and not acting mature at all. They should’ve just said that Clark is acting mature and like a leader of a franchise, but obviously not angel Reese
The excuse making and goal post moving on Boston is actually impressive. PS I wonder if they’re gonna mention the fact that the wnba is on schedule to lose 50 million this season
It's not a secret that the WNBA hasn't been profitable, but what makes you an incel is that you use that fact to say that women shouldn't be treated humanely in the context of sports (or anything else).
Fun fact, womens sports such as soccer, volleyball, gymnastics, figure skating, and other sports that are actually marketed and not treated like second class institutions are actually very profitable, with large viewing number, but don't let facts get in the way of your little paint drinking narrative.
50 million is a lot of money to lose for a league that apparently had no money.
Well, you're watching the goalpost-moving video, so what's worse? The people making the video, or the people watching the video and complaining about it (apparently without realizing that watching and complaining just encourages more videos of this type)?
Luka dragged the Mavs to the finals is crazy... Luka has been hiding on defense the entire playoffs.
and yet he was one playing at the end. So by that logic all these other guys like Antman and SGA are bums because they couldn't beat Luka seeing how he's not actually that good right? Shame on SGA and Antman for letting Luka go off in their building to end their seasons right? Was Curry suddenly a worse player because he couldn't guard Kyrie in 2016? If Luka played defense he'd be better sure but we didn't mind it when Curry hid away in the corner. It's ridiculous to hold Luka's defense against him with such vitriol when it the only time it finally hurt him was against the Celtics in the finals. Any other team comes out the East and we wouldn't be having this conversation. And most likely the Mavs will never face a roster on that level ever again.
@@derekbrown3447 The Mavs reached the finals because of they're defense and matchup problems with Luka AND Kyrie. Who said Luka wasn't good? How old is Ant Edwards again? The entire series I barely Saw Luka or Kyrie guarding Ant. The problem with Luka defense and effort has always been an issue and when trying to compare Steph , Steph is 6 '4 190lbs but he always gives effort. Always! That's the difference between Curry and Harden. If Harden was judged for his defense and defensive effort why would we give Luka a pass?
Elite commentary on the media’s reaction to the Reese/Clark rivalry.
That intro from Colin was savage loll straight up hating man
Keep Gaslighting the Celtics. I like how Luca has so much upside and Tatum is just some average hack. JT is only 26 and he already has a title. JB, JT and the rest of the Celtics will be a thorn in the league for some time. Maybe next year KP will be healthy. One more thing defense matters and it matters more than the talking heads well acknowledge.
Anything Aaron does would rub Colin and Nick the wrong way
"Aaron" hasn't won anything of note in 13 years, so. . .
@@Willtellthetruth and what have all the other QBs not names Pat Mahomes won that would put them above Aaron?
He was right they were wrong on the vaccine and their egos can't handle that
Because Aaron Rodgers is the shittiest human being in the NFL now that Daniel Snyder is no longer an NFL owner.
@@johnferrughelli6607 a clown statement
Nick was one of main ppl being honest about Luka struggling for the 1st two rounds of the playoffs but now his struggles vs Boston is excused bc he "carried them" all the way to the Finals ig 😂 aight
It's sorta true though? Mavs had to play playoff type basketball after the all star break because they were 9th lol
Lebron went to the finals at 22 years. 3 years earlier than Luka.
Lebron got swept and didn’t go back to the finals till he was 26. Nick is saying Luka technically made it further at a younger age by winning a finals game
Tatum also made the finals at 24 who just beat Luka lol. Nick Wright is a dunce.
Lebron was playing in a horrible eastern conference
Tatum just won at 19
@@Rowtheboatskiumahgogopher did lebron make the finals at 22 or not?
The Celtics won on DEFENSE!!
Don't we use lines like that on NFL teams?
Stupendous!! And way to change the NBA winning paradigm!!
These corny weird random criteria these talking heads come up with is pathetic and a joke. Since when does it matter that you have a historically great team? If your team is good enough to win it that makes you a great championship caliber team. Nobody is calling this Boston team a dynasty or all time team but they are champions now. End of the story.
Yeah strange change of topic. The question of dynasty is about the next few years when the Celts can basically keep their team together. All time great team has nothing to do with it.
It’s just moving the goalposts.
They try to push the word dynasty to early just enjoy this championship and we will see what will happen the next couple of seasons Jesus man
They're trying to downplay their lack of judgement regarding the Celtics winning the Championship... by degrading their ability, they can claim the Celtics won by default... classic narcissistic behaviour.
The irony of him not acknowledging the fact that Tatum also got to the finals had a younger age….
Colin wrong. This is a great Celtics team
When is he right
Nick was on the money. CC and Reese are doing exactly what we been asking the NBA players to do. Stop being friends
Nick completely missed that Lebron was 22 when he led the cavs to the finals the first time
“He’s got further in the playoffs at this age than Michael, than Lebron, etc”
Does Nick just mean bc he won a game in the finals as opposed to Bron who was swept at 22? Because…
What's with Rodgers mustache? He looks like Super Mario!
But Tatum missed his championship window right?
bruh he was so bad in these games.
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p 31-8-11 is terrible in a 20 point closeout win
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p he didn’t shoot well , he wasn’t bad . Casuals only know scoring
Hey Nick Wrong are you gonna to credit Tatum for taking his team to the finals at age 24 two years ago (you get than Luka now) vs the 2022 warriors? In two short years he rebounded from that and is now a champion. I doubt Nick Wrong will recognize this for Tatum.
Colin brings up Brunson thriving like PJ, Gafford, and Derrick Jones all haven’t had career years the SECOND they started playing with Luka
I was gonna say how can Luka be difficult to play with if Kyrie, DJJ and Exum just resurrected their careers this season playing with Luka.
Nick's analogy about Aaron Rodgers was hilarious and spot on
The idea that a top 3 player is a liability on defense and doesn’t give you effort on that side of the ball is just an exercise an hyperbole
Nick names a lot of all time greats Luka went farther than in the playoffs at this age. You know two guys he leaves out that went farther that were younger/the same age ? Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. They were 24 and 25 when they won two games against the warriors in the finals to Luka's 1 this year. He says we can't use this year for anything but building Luka up when all playoffs he has been using past years where the they were just as young to tear down Jaylen and more so Tatum.
Good point
We all have our own opinions or "takes". Nick just seems like he really feels his takes are the last word and what we all should go by
Nick has the most inconsistent standards on measuring how good a player is. To me, it invalidates his arguments. He picks and chooses
Like nick but come on mate your answer was 5 straight games were the worst all year over 5stretch and still won did denver do that no boston did so yes we are agreat team and now you will see this team win multiple titles ? me ut we got over the jeebies now you wre going to see us explode
Everyone is gonna focus on the nba part but I just wanna say Colin talking about Aaron rodgers being self absorbed. Colin's been married multiple times, multiple kids and he's about as self absorbed as they get so..?
2:20
Isn't this just a function of the Mavs solid defense?
It's perfectly reasonable that you would score the fewest amount of points in the finals where you're playing the hypothetically best team in the league.
can the sound crew up the volume by atleast 50%? i would love to hear the show
No one is better than Nick to skillfully explain away why he was wrong, and to make it sound like he was right
2 all time Celtic haters here. Man this feels good. ☘️🏆18. Suck it.
18 with more to come.
I don't remember any talk like this last yr when denver won with a worse record.??
Saying Angel Reece and Caitlin Clark are both excellent players is true but kind of a category error. You don’t say Lebron James and PJ Tucker are both excellent players
Exactly
CC= Steph/Trae Young
Reese=Drummond/Kendrick Perkins
They are the top 2 rookies.. this is a hot take on my part but Angel may have more upside potential than CC. We’ll see if she locks in or gets lost in the drama and fame
Are you comparing 7 points 7 turnovers Clark to LeBron?
@@IanMannNo she doesn’t 😂
@@joemillz10yes cc rookie year is comparable to lebron rookie year when you look at wnba efficiency
Colin has the most sayings that no one else ever says 😂
Celtics are a modern day Spurs. Elite tactical basketball with hard defense. A casual watcher worst nightmare.
Luka is amazing, he's just a defensive liability. They picked him apart all series long.
These guys can’t have any kind of sane or objective discussion when it comes to Rodgers lol.
This show and Nicks is sponsored by Pfizer….they are both frauds
Now Luka “carried” the Mavs to the Finals 😭😭
So many sports commentators doubted the Boston Celtics.
Lifetime Laker fan and Celtic Hater but even I can’t fathom or compete with the media hate on the Celtics 😂😂😂
Lol. Leave it to Nick Wright to make the 18th CELTICS championship all about Luka.
Maybe it’s his last name? But the guy cannot admit when he gets it wrong.
#18🏆
THERE IS NO RIVALRY! Only in Reese's mind. Wish you two would get your stories right.
Nick always shutting down Colin…💪
Colin seriously can't make his mind up on Luka. It's maddening to listen too. Dude just dragged his team to the finals with multiple injuries.
As a Dallas cowboys and Mavs fan we don't claim nick the reason he praises both teams because of mahomes!
The Celtics are the favorites again next year
If they play the same they will be a good bet. Hopefully they will play the same team game they did this year. They can definitely be a dynasty if they do that.
Best combo
Give Boston their props. They outplayed the Mavs and held them sub 100 points in the 4 wins
I don't know how the Celtics stack up compared to all the champion teams in history, but I do know that these sports TV commentators definitely aren't experts in anything.
What if KP was healthy the whole time. How come no asks that question
When Porzingus is healthy they are better than last years Nuggets, and it's not even close.
Don’t mention Lukas defense at all lol
Cause mavs held the celtics to 103 ppg? It's their offense that sucked
Totally fair. Luka rests on defense. Horrible effort. Celtics exposed his bad D in all 4 wins.
How are we talking about Luka right now instead of the champions ? 😂 lmao
The only thing holding your show alive Nick is Chris
Oh you mean the fastest growing sports show on television? What an absolute clown show comment.
Don’t ever disrespect Kevin Wildes again!!
I just wanted to hear people that are never impressed by only what they like have to say it's always interesting. Chris should leave. Somethings to laugh at, because they've been proven wrong. You guys are funny 😁
Great Job Boston for showing the world there is more than one way to win a championship, and to be a great team, and to play winning basketball 🏀 👏
12:23 man, you gentlemen have been on point in regards to WNBA thus far.
The idea Angel Reese has been handling things correctly is asinine
Tatum’s accomplishments for his age are, in fact, “historically great,” Nick.
The London ball comparison was fantastic, minus that Clark is actually good
Nicks arguments are invalid bc he’s never consistent. First it was that Dallas had the best record since the trade deadline and they had one of the best defenses in the league, now Luka is “tired because he carried the team”. Definition of a guy who’s a know it all and always thinks his points stand over everyone’s. Get some real analyst to cover the sport please.
"a delicious full flavor cigarette" 🤣
How ironic is it that nick wants to say Tatum is not an all time great then go on to list all these all time great players that made it to the finals at 25 yet conveniently leaves Tatum out🤣🤣🤣🤣
Im with nick on airplanes. A full flavor cigarette would be wonderful on a flight 😂
Wait no way? Is it really another week of Colin and Nick hating on Aaron Rodgers? Never seen that one before
In basketball to make a statement you have to be a dynasty … this is the Celtics opportunity to start own
You don't need historic players, if you build the team properly, coach the team properly, play defense, and don't have major injuries
KP got hurt, but he's maybe their 3rd best player. If Brown or Tatum got hurt, they don't make The Finals
Great players can hide flaws in how your team is constructed
Well, the Celtics are clearly the HUGE favorites to come out of the East next year, and barring injury they’ll easily do so. It all comes down to championship matchup. I like them as favorites over everyone except maybe a retooled Denver.
“Skipped work to do drugs.” Lmao 😂
Nick always has such a well-rounded and nuanced point of view on race in sports and America overall. Thank you!
Wow! Didn't even know NBA finals were going on till seeing this.
This show NEEDS Kevin Wildes SO BADLY!
i guess having a player with the most playoff points before 27 in history isnt a “great player”
Let me get this straight, this team is not a historic team because they are a team and do not rely on a star player like the past great… TEAMS????
I am a Laker. But how can he say Jaylen or Jayson aint historic? They just getting started. Wish it was us.
Tatum made it further than luka at his age. Nick conveniently left that out. Tatum was 24 in 2022
Winning creates historically great players. It’s not the other way around
The Flagrants are directed more at one player than anyone else, so telling us how many Flagrants there overall is a terrible argument.
Wow, big disparity. She really has so many more against her than anyone else. There have been 2. So you'll feel things are equitable, when one of the other 7 players, including Reese, that have had flagrants against them, gets another one?
Brad Stevens deserves a lot of credit for the players he put together for this Championship run. He got just the right players, traded the right players and kept the right players. Championships are very hard to come by and The Boston Celtics have won a record 18 historically. Congratulations.
He's been a better gm than a coach and he was a pretty damn good coach.
stop saying tatum didn’t play well. he didn’t SHOOT well. dude led the team in pts, rebs, asts. surprisingly, basketball is more than scoring (which he still did)
Excellent discussion by both, especially Nick. Great thing.
Okay so the NBA finals just finished where Nick was completely wrong and all we got was a couple minutes about the Celtics not being an all time team and more time spent on Luka being awesome and not hating on him
Does Nick ever begin a response without saying Listen?
Being the 2nd best player on a championship team at 19 is a wild accomplishment
Even as a Cs fan, not sure how they rank all time. But Denver won the chip against an 7th seed who were playing WAY out over their skis. That's not ever brought up. In some ways this Dallas team feels like last year's Heat team. Lower seeded yet caught fire and played their best ball at the right time.