Everything you need to know about The Time Travelers (1964)
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The Time Travelers is one of my “FAVORITE” science fiction movies of all time.
I watched this movie back
in 1972 on tv and was very
impressed with it . I have
never seen it since.
An underated gem.
Paul Bacchus esq
Yeah me too, saw it on TV. I was 15, and had cut my sci fi teeth on P. Troughton’s Dr Who in England, when it was fresh. Just now learned this movie sowed seeds for Time Tunnel, and Star Trek, and inspired Rod Serling. When fandoms collide ❤
I remember seeing this film as a kid and those weird androids gave me nightmares ever since. I think the concept was brilliant and loved the twist when they come back through the portal.
Speaking of STAR TREK, I believe that John Hoyt played the doctor in the first pilot episode (THE CAGE)
around the same time he made this movie.
He sure did! Coincidence??? He actually did quite a bit of Sci/Fi back in the day!
@@thrashpondopons2776 He did quite a bit of everything back in the day. Good actor.
That's right - centuries of medical advances, but still no cure for the combover.
Dr. Phillip Boyce
Still think 'Robinson Crusoe On Mars' is his best... but can't argue with a man over his favorite!
I can dimly remember seeing The Time Travellers on TV as a kid in the 1970s, and I think a preview at that. Looks like one of those movies that got by on a low--budget, and became a cult favourite. (Who says you need a $20,000,000 budget just to make a movie?!)
Ib Melchior will forever go down in history as one of the most underrated and unsung sci--fi film writers, producers, and directors.
Thank you, Mr. Melchior, for your innovativity in your films. RIP.
I remember as a kid being freaked out by the time loop ending
"Dormanou, I've come to bargain..." - Pause, rewind, repeat.
I love B-movies. Its acting at it best, because to believe what their acting in and convince the audience such outlandishness its real as well is an art. I love this stuff...
I loved this film when I saw it on TV decades ago
Jonny, you've really got an amazing channel. Maybe too much info for most people(NOT a criticism) but perfect for the curious film buff. Small valuable channel!
I remember watching this movie on late night TV when I was a kid and always liked it. Several years later I managed to get a beautiful 16MM print of the movie, but regrettably sold my entire collection a few years ago.
Wow! I can't believe I haven't seen this movie, at least if my memory serves me well. Thanks for that.
Thanks to your video I just went and watched this movie this afternoon (found it available on Amazon Prime). It was a really good 1960s sci-fi B-movie I'd never heard of, so thanks for the recommendation!
I saw The Time Tavelers at a drive in theater when it first came out. I did not know Melchior was so innovative.
Srtar Trek was heavily inspired by the AE VAN VOGT novel Voyage of The Space Beagle, where a crew, with a Science Officer who inspired Spock, explore the galaxy. The novel is highly readable even today.
Wow, so many mind twisting facts in this one, really got me thinking, thanks man.
*will have to look for this one...looks awesome*
The guy with the lobster claws was a Deviant. The bald guys were the Mutants. I love this movie, it was exceptional when you consider the budget constraints.
Awesome as always
Ib Melchior was a productive, resourceful and innovation filmmaker. I had also heard how Irwin Allen and Gene Roddenberry were "inspired" by his work for their respective series. It's ironic that Victor Lundin, whom Melchior credits as a collaborator, would later appear on Star Trek TOS as the first Klingon seen on camera in their first season episode Errand of Mercy. Hollywood is full of stories of how ideas are stolen, a friend of mine was ripped off years ago by the producers of Six Feet Under.
I got a chance to have a serious talk about John Carter with Forrest Ackerman. Ackerman know Burroughs when he was a kid. Ackerman's big fear about a Carter movie was that the movie company would ignore the books and f the movie up. This was years before either Carter movie was made and they both sucked. However, Wolla was amusing in the Disney film.
This is the first time I learned that Ib Melchior partly contributed the concepts for Star Trek, for which Gene Roddenberry claimed as his own. (Some say it was plagiarism on Gene's part.)
Around 1986, I read Melchior's short story, The Racer (published 1956), which was the basis for the movie "Death Race 2000"(1975).
In a 1979 interview, Melchior attended an auto race in the '50s, witnessed an accident, and found out some of the spectators weren't trying to see if the two drivers involved survived--but if they died.
This incident proved unsettling for Melchior. He thought about it and wrote the story.
Interesting how real life can influence sci--fi.
Gene Roddenberry, like Irwin Allen, wasn't eager to share credit with anyone. You may remember how he stole fifty percent of the royalties from composer Alexander Courage by writing idiotic lyrics for the Star Trek theme. Courage never forgave him for that.
Blew my mind as a kid! Thanks for this!!
i remember watching this film back in the mid 2000s and my first thought was this reminds me of "Time Tunnel". now i know why.
An all time favourite of mine.
I have seen this movie, but remember it being black and white. I didn’t know it had a color version! I do like the movie and want to see it again now, in color. I really enjoy your videos, very well done, and they make me want to rewatch all these classics shows and films.
I love this channel! Please do more videos to help escape coronovirus issues for a little bit each night! ♥️
Don’t worry more videos coming soon 😊
Absolutely excellent movie! I love it!!! Needs a blu ray upgrade.
Thanks Jonny i will have ti look for this movie i dont remember ever watching that one
I never saw this or even heard about this movie and I absolutely love sci-fi films from this era. Looks cool
Saw this first-run at the Shades Mountain Drive-in in Birmingham, Alabama. Good times.
I loved this movie when I was a kid. Freaked the heck out of me.
Saw this once as a kid in the 70s and it always stuck with me because of the ending. Recently tracked it down on DVD. A real gem.
this film freaked me out as a kid
The ending freaked me out. But I saw it on COMET not too long ago, and the "rapidly accelerating time loop" ending was cut!
The ending messed with my head too. I could just imagine that future place they walked into forever being populated with their duplicates. Wild film.
Thanks for covering this awesome B sci-fi flick! IF I may, this was made with TWO endings and I watched both. I guess you did not know about that when you made this video as you didn't mention it. I first watched this on Amazon Prime Video (it was free at the time, now its a PPV). It's title card was a blank generic thumbnail saying The Time Travelers. I had not looked it up on IMdb to avoid spoilers (smart, as it has a low rating and spoilers). Anyway I LOVED THIS FILM! The version on Amazon had the "dark" ending which you mention and I love. I rate that version an 8/10. MST3K (the new version) did the film and I was surprised it was not as graphic and also had a "happy" ending (they find a "paradise"), I rate that version a 6. Thanks for the trivia I didn't know about the creator!
I like this movie.
I saw this movie as a kid way back when and forgot most of it. I remembered the ending, the robots (especially the one on fire) and the shower scene (what young lad wouldn't?) where the women were talking about the upcoming "population explosion" when they got to their destination. I found it again just a few years ago on a streaming service when the thumbnail looked oddly familiar.
I watched this film last night after seeing excerpts in the video to 'Anomaly' by Carl Finlow. I really enjoy these B-movies after being captivated by 'Them' when I was young. I guess the time loop at the end of the movie just gets faster all the time until the whole thing takes just a second and beyond that?
great upload! how about filming locations?
Saw this on Saturday afternoon TV when i was a kid looked for it for year but kept ending up with Beyond the time barrier of 1956
Hey Johnny, I’m curious what is the music track you are using for the background music for the majority of your videos ?
I’d like to find it online and buy it so I can listen to on my own free time
Loved those movies
The bluray sucks its all full of white specks in the picture im sending it back to amazon.
I saw this on creature double feature in Philadelphia on a Saturday afternoon after cartoons and I even as a kid I knew this had no budget. Just look at the androids head lol
3:01 *Thanks!*
The sound clip of tge director talking - i kept thinking it was Emperor Palpatine pleading not to kill him before shouting "Power! Unlimited POWER!'
Only ever saw this as a kid on B W tv.
thank you
Love the time travelers from 1964 😌😎📼
WTF? He wrote Star Trek ? Holy Jesus! 🤯
That's right
In the years proceeding the actual production of the show, Ib developed a show format and stories that were very much STAR TREK in character (Roddenberry had seen it), but was not directly involved in the show itself. (I know much of this first hand. Hard to prove he was ripped off, but evidence is there) Same with LOST IN SPACE, where a very direct effort to steal his premise and actual plot elements for the first 2 episodes can be traced through memos and studio paperwork, as well as via several witnesses. It's not uncommon in Hollywood (or anywhere else in the creative realm). I feel Ib overstates the case that he wrote "star trek" per se, even tho I was direct witness to one person extremely close to the Trek franchise who said that it wouldn't be at all surprising that this was true. (Personally, I find the film IKARIE XB-1 another possible major influence on the development of TREK. A number of films in the time just proceeding the development of TREK all were exploring the idea of giant interstellar ships traveling between the stars with large crews living in space, discovering new worlds.)
@@RSEFX Roddenberry stole other things as well, such as co-writing credits for the original Star Trek theme. Alexander Courage composed the original theme exclusively as music. Gene then added (bad) lyrics to it so he would get 1/2 credit/royalties for it. That's why Courage quit and didn't contribute any more music to Star Trek. I lost all respect for "The Great Bird of the Galaxy" when I heard that.
@@Terminus_El_Camino Oh wow, I found the lyrics and they are _really_ bad. What a duck move! And the show lost a good composer.. :(
@@booruvcheek1331 Correct on all three points. There's a Next Gen documentary on Netflix narrated by Shatner that highlights how Gene almost destroyed that show. Really, he gets more reverence than he deserves.
I just ordered the DVD to *ROBINSON CRUSOE ON MARS* a couple of days ago.
Always thought his movie has a very Star Trek feel to it.
I suspect the Doctor Who story 'Utopia' might have been inspired by this. in it, humans are building a rocket to escape their planet before they overrun by mutants, just like in this film.
One of the bands I was in whilst in high school was called _Angry Red Planet_ - the lead singer was a fan . . .
In Michigan by any chance?
@@RSEFX Nope - I live in the Great White North . . .
@@cseguin There was a club called THE ANGRY PLANET (using the same lettering style as on the film's poster on the sign in front) in Detroit in the 60's and a group that I believe were also from there called THE ANGRY RED PLANET. Could there be more than one? Anyway, thanks for the reply.
@@RSEFX I don't doubt there was more than one band with that name - it's a great name.
@@cseguin Very true. Thank goodness that was the title selected for that film, rather than the original "INVASION OF MARS".
I don't get why so many people aren't given credit for their work why didn't Roddenberry simply acknowledge this guy's contribution what would have been so hard in that?
I remember this. Kinda graphic considering stepping through to the other side.
This makes me think of the Fantastic Four for some reason.
lol it is fantastic four basically
And don't forget to mention the Netflix reboot of MST3K covers this movie on season 11.
It was pretty funny. I saw that one too.
@@marklafrance8141 The Time Travelers (1964) was featured in Desperately Seeking Susan (1985).
Just watches it on prime video..... good movie.
I watched it on MST3k. I didn't like the ending, later I found out that there are two endings, a sad and a happy one. The happy one was what I saw.
Can you make a video about the original Rollerball?
Love this movie mst3k episode was hiliarous too 😊
It looks like the remnant civilization of 2071 were using mouse guns, chambered for either .25 ACP or .32 ACP, which is why the shots caused little damage to the angry, desperate, strong mutants. Much of their society's technology was designed around peaceful and productive existence with almost no propensity for internal violence among themselves. Hence, the pistols were low-powered. The androids were programmed for strictly, reflexive self-defense, with strength no more than a human, for the logical safety of the humans. It also prevented their misuse by a rogue or power-seeking individual. But as a result, the androids were too easily dispatched by the mutants. At least the androids gave numbers and more time for the humans to escape.
Ib didn't have much of a beef with Irwin Allan re: THE TIME TRAVELERS, at least he never brought up to me. Ib had far greater issues (far far greater) with SPACE FAMILY ROBINSON, Ib's project (and also the original title of Allen's series, LOST IN SPACE.) He did think that Allen was always on the lookout for grabbing story concepts and ideas from others, and Allen's TV series THE TIME TRAVELERS as well as THE TIME TUNNEL bear similarities to Ib's THE TIME TRAVELERS, especially in helping to create awareness of the idea of a window to walk through/into time, which hadn't been done (to my knowledge) in the early 60's. (In Ib's original script, the time portal accidentally sends his time travelers into the prehistoric past, as well as future, but these scenes were all deleted. Another writer I knew---again in the low budget area, meaning someone without many means----wrote a story called THE FROZEN CONTINENT in treatment form about a nuclear submarine dealing with fiery problems in the atmosphere, much of story framed in the arctic regions. He submitted it to Allen and not long afterwards VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA came to be. Allen had a widespread reputation for this sort of thing, and was very successful with it. But, he did produce a lot of entertainment for a lot of people so people are willing to give Allen the credit, or don't care...or it's a "might makes right" ethic that should be followed.
Ackerman was actually L Ron Hubbard's publicist in the science-fiction realm
Made the year I was born.
Me too!
Melchior sold a script to the Outer Limits (1963-65) TV series re-using his frozen in time plot device. "The Premonition" aired as the next to last episode of the series, and is among the best shows of the second season.
"A test pilot crashes in his experimental plane. He and his wife discover they are in a reality where time has slowed down almost to a standstill. Returning to the airbase, they are horrified to see their daughter in the path of a moving truck. Although they can move around in this time frozen reality, they cannot move any person or any object that is frozen in time. Their dilemma ... how to save their daughter."
This episode is well worth seeking out and plays a lot better than Melchior's low budget 1950s-60s Sci-Fi movies.
www.imdb.com/title/tt0667846/?ref_=ttep_ep16
The Dell comic book series "Space Family Robinson" was first published in 1962, and so predates "Robinson Crusoe on Mars" (1964) and "Lost In Space."
OUTER LIMITS was a great TV series. One of the best ever.
I saw this movie in the theater when I was very young. Is the ending as nightmarish as I think it is?
No,the ending is upbeat. The last scene sees the survivors stepping through the time portal again but this time they enter a green world in the distant future that has recovered from it's nuclear wasteland phase. But then the story starts looping all over again ad infinitum. It;s a weird combination of bleak and then hopeful and then mind-bending. A great little flick. It used to be a staple on the Creature-Double Feature on WLVI Channel 56 in the Boston area. LONG LIVE KAISER BROADCASTING NETWORK! I loved the movie as a kid and it still holds up now. It was up on CZcams a while back, but sadly was pulled!
@@Bufoferrata R.I.P. - WKBF Channel 61, Kaiser Broadcasting, Cleveland. Home of THE GHOUL, one of the all time great horror movie hosts.
@@Bufoferrata As you say, the movie shows that the characters end up in an infinite loop (with a cool fast forward sequence) & also the "green world" ending. Seems to me that the characters only ended up in 1 loop and then escaped to the far future. I was thinking perhaps this "double" ending was due to re-writes to the script where the original "Time Trap" idea ended up changed to the "green world" ending, but they still wanted to keep the cool infinite loop sequence , too...
In all fairness, I don't think the film could be characterized as a "comedy" just because there are "amusing" occurrences here and there (unfortunately that piece of music in the android factory pushes that element too far), any more than dashes of "comedy relief" humor in, say, STALAG 17, or in a film like George Pal's CONQUEST OF SPACE. Stating that it becomes a "comedy" is a very broad stroke, a big sweeping judgement that seems very out of balance in regards this film.
I agree. I would also state that the "comedy" that was placed in the movie detracted from its more serious theme, and it would have been a better film without it.
@@Terminus_El_Camino I mostly agree, especially the hokey "Bob Hope comedy" music in the first scenes in the android factory (which I believe came from a Bob Hope comedy). I'm working on a slight re-edit of the film, shortening that scene and replacing it with another piece of music from the film used later. Just for my own edification. (Also removing a couple of shots of the ship exploding that are "soft focus". I did some work on THE ANGRY RED PLANET like this to please Ib: I managed to get rid of the "rotating eyeball" of the amoeba that he said should never have been in the film/was shot while he was shooting live action on another stage: Soon as he found out when he saw the dailes, he made sure that that rotating mechanism was shut off. Which is why only some of the scenes of it have the rotation. Sorry for the trivia/maybe 2 other people out there might find this amusing ;-7
Ugh. REPTILICUS probably shouldn't have been among the first to mention. He practically disowned it. Actually, you characterize him first and foremost as a director of these films, but he was more of a writer/developer on all these films since he only directed 2 of the films you mention, THE ANGRY RED PLANET and this film. Btw, he also wrote episodes of MEN INTO SPACE and THE OUTER LIMITS for TV, and also developed and co-wrote the eerie PLANET OF THE VAMPIRES. (Some of the effects in THE TIME TRAVELERS were required opticals, and also a fair amount of use of rear projection and pre-production-photographed miniatures. When Ib says that all of the effects were done live, that is a kind of simplification not entirely accurate. Ib was a friend---and I inherited the greater portion of his papers, sketches etc---so I don't think he'd mind my making these minor corrections, as well as adding more to his film cv.) Thanks for talking about this film. I've always thought it one of the better ventures into SF on the low-ish end of the budget scale. Very inventive/creative.
I think he was involved in outer limits 2?
I always suspected that Roddenberry was a fake. In the 70s he was worshipped as creating everything about Star Trek. Fans never saw the many films and 1964,65 tv Sci fi shows which Roddenberry “ borrowed” heavily from.
Yes, the time tunnel and Lost in Space which was “the space family Robinson.”
Amazing. I’ve been robbed several times of ideas and scripts during my career. Without stealing from others so many of these geniuses wouldn’t have any success.
Sadly, Rod Serling too, was more than influenced by other writers.
Atragon?
still waiting for a video for Battlestar Galactica series
I’ll get there eventually definitely got it on my list of future videos
@@JonnyBaak thanks!
"Victory" has a thousand fathers. Defeat is an orphan.
o.0
You can't relate doctor who, a time space travel show, to this
Can you review The Towering Inferno? In my opinion, it has better effects and action, but its characters aren't as good as the characters from the Poseidon adventure. Everybody get essentially pushed aside, and Paul Newman is surprisingly a total lifeless bore in this movie. The only good character in that movie was Jennifer Jones'
I have been planning to do a video on the The Towering Inferno and will probably put it up on my second channel which will concentrate mainly on non sci fi fantasy TV shows and movies
@@JonnyBaak That's great.
@Time Traveler omg.please
i think,,,is best movie......do to the theory.behind the time door ways ...into the future,,,,even though,,,is very cheesy movie....really with bad props,,,but in the time it was made is was really great innovation to think A+ in my movie list
I wonder what people will be saying about today's movies a half century plus from now?---Wow, all that stuff was so fake!---and they had to WATCH those things, not be in them. Cheezy (tho that word will long have been out of date, possibly not even remembered. Or not.)
Could some1 plz upload this plz!!!! I found this by a music video 😆 now i need 2 watch it plz lol
3:11 was he trying to look like Hitler there or...?
I saw this movie at the age of 14. I really liked it then and I really like it now. So tired of hearing 'low budget' all the frickin' time!!!! Dammit! Money doesn't make a movie good if the writing for it sucks, like much of what you get nowadays. Nobody knows how to write a screenplay anymore, they just throw special effects money at the screen and call it done. Also, and now you know the clay feet of your sci-fi gurus. Star Trek: stolen plot and story line--Gene Rodenberry was a thief, Irwin Allen was a cockknocker and never had an original idea in his life. This is how Hollywood has always worked--stolen ideas, stolen dreams.
INSTEAD OF HOPING THE MUTANTS WOULDN'T ATTACK AS THE FORCE FIELD WAS DEACTIVATED WHILST THE LAST REMAINING HUMANS BOARDED THEIR SHIP THEY SHOULD USED OTHER MEANS TO FORTIFY THE AREA ...NO WONDER THEY DESERVED TO DIE
2071 The earth is barren with mutants.
Hmm how could that be........?( said one man in 2020)
The Melchior vs Irwin Allen claims of plagiarism are effectively and comprehensively refuted in Marc Cushmans series of books. Notwithstanding , this is a great article on the whole. Bizarre film and an unsettling watch from my childhood.
No, Melchior will not be remembered. Only thieves and marketers, not creators, are ever remembered.
Some facts please. As much detail as possible.
@@RSEFX Did Edison actually invent the light bulb? How well did Telsa fare at collecting royalties? Who was George Lucas's ghost writer? Who were the real writers behind Carolyn Keene and Franklin Dixon? Do you know who wrote the final V. C. Andrews novels? You might know without looking it up online. Then again, you might not.
@@ancientegyptandthebible Thanks. Helps to see the range you are considering. Re: Edison: Maybe something that is equal to, or possibly even more unjust than the credit for the creation of the light bulb, revolves around the presumption most people have that it was HE who first brought us alternating current. On the same general plane as Lucas, Spielberg also comes to mind often thought of as the complete "auteur" (sp?), but those dinosaur sequences in "that" film?----the creative work almost entirely of someone else's. Ghost-direction. Among the few "reverses" of the usual maybe this: Lovecraft's name I believe was hidden from a number of writings he actually 90 percent ghost-wrote. Lovecraft never seemed to try to publicize himself or rectify that situation. However, very few of those writers achieved any name recognition whatsoever, while Lovecraft's fame rose from obscurity. The less, uh, talented, shall we say, whom he ghosted for have all long ago faded from the scene altogether. That's a sorta reverse of the far more common situation. But, as I mentioned, a kind of "meh" example. (Sorry, not to go on about all this ----like, ulp, I guess I am----but....but Carolyn Keene sounds so familiar, yet can't place her. I'd appreciate your observations about her, as well as the other 2 you mentioned.) Thanks for bringing out this point about those who are remembered.
Not surprising that Roddenberry stole the idea of Star Trek from Ib Melchior, but in turn Melchior stole the idea from the movie Forbidden Planet written by Irving Block Allen Adler
How so? I knew both Ib and Irving Block. The premise of giant interplanetary space craft pre-dates all of these. "Stealing" is far more to do with specific story details, situations and characters. (Btw, just following up on FORBIDDEN PLANET: A lot of its ideas came from THIS ISLAND EARTH. MGM even borrowed a print of the latter to help them figure out some of the issues they faced in making their first real SF film.)