New 2025 Triumph Speed Twin 900 & 1200 Updates Spied: Everything You Need To Know!
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![Triumph SPEED 400 vs 900 vs 1200 [QuickTest#36]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QZQmoGnAriI/mqdefault.jpg)
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NEEDS the Analogue Clocks... Tech dash isn't a retro look I'd go for personally
Analog gauges are better. You don't have to read them. You just have look at their position. All you have to do is see the needle position on the dial, and you've got the information. Ever wonder why airplanes still have so many analog dials? And big rig trucks? That's why
Indeed...if i wanted a tech dash I would go for another naked bike with a more modern aspect
Definitely does!
100 % agree
100% agree. I own a 2019 street twin but always preferred the T100 clocks
A Speed Twin 1200 without the lovely clocks? Absolutely not!
Completely agree. It would be an idiotic decision not to include the twin gauges.
Would you be in favour of it being optional? Those who want the tech, get it, those who want classic clocks, also get it?
This one stupid step of integration of a single pod digital simply will kill the sales of this wonderful bike.
It might just be Triumph is using that cluster on their test bike to get all the information needed. The double clock actually has to little information if putting say a six axis IMU on the bike and making a RS version. It would be sweet though if they preserv the current day 1200 as well.
I agree , it's got to have the twin clocks.
On the 1200 the ohlin shocks yes, but definitely keep the twin clocks, love that classic look
Im with everybody else. Use the old clocks, and I am sold!
Twin clocks should be there, they can put a mini tft in between if they must but the twin clocks should be there
Who on earth do Triumph use for thier focus groups...seriously, how could anyone not like the twin analogue gauges?!
I have the 22 speed twin with the glorious red. I almost sweated a bit seeing theres an upgrade so soon, but then realizing the new one doesnt have the round tank and the beautiful analog dash made me realize i have the best version of the bike.
Eventually gonna do a piggy back shock upgrade as well as the front cartridge and I'll have my dream bike even better 😆
Nike. Just do it
Thruxton and Speed Twin have fused. Makes sense. People want the ergos from Twin and performance of Thruxton. Solid business move.
Exactly why I didn't buy either, and I really want a second triumph 1200
@@logangodofcandybought both, best decision I made in years
switching between them always gives that "new bike" feeling, because they are so different
140hp & 160Nm from the 1200 and I’ll buy one (again)🤞
Was thinking about yr speed 1200 when I watched this video RM. The ohlins and all
Lol thought you’d be watching this RM!
Always! lol. Haven’t had a new bike in a week
I have just bought the 2024 Speed Twin 1200, and all I can say is you won't be disappointed...it oozes style, power & handling.✌️
I have a 2023. Love it!! That engine is beautiful.
I have a 2022 Speed Twin. I added Ohlins rear shocks and had the swing arms and yokes painted black.
One large clock will spoil the aesthetics of the 1200, it needs/has to have twin clocks. An LED in the middle, like on the Z900RS, would also work well on the bike.
Oh my god, that cluster and tank 😢
Twin clocks & another 20 bhp.
That's all it neds , more speed and some Ohlins on the back. The single clock is hideous.
Don't do it Triumph , leave those clocks alone.
SPEED TWIN 1200 RS Please !!!😭🙏🏻
Wish manufacturers would extend the back of front mudgaurd. They might think a short mudgaurd looks 'cool', but all the crap from the wheel covers the front of the bike.
The speed twins are definitely a keeper bike so classic bonus to have sorted suspension faultless… despite just having my new arrival 2024 S1000XR love it too !! Love your channel 😎
Glad I've just got a new speed twin 1200 with twin clocks, should hold its value better now 😂
I really love my new Triumph Trident. I like it so much that I'm buying another one as soon as I can. I want to collect them.
As somebody who’s hovering over the “buy button” on the Street/Speed Twin 900, I hope this is a just a flashy variant. The whole appeal of the 900 to me is its simplicity of its lines and its relaxed atitude, whereas this looks a bit shouty. I’m not keen on the T100 because it’s trying to look like an old bike, whereas the 900 is an unashamedly modern bike with a classic silhouette. If I wanted sportier, I’d just go for the 1200, or one of the millions of other sporty bikes on the market. I don’t even like Triumph as a brand, I just think the current 900 is exactly what I’m looking for in a bike (apart from all the gammony Union Jack logos).
Get the current 900, the new one lost its charm.
I've already made my own Speed Twin 1200 R!! 😊
You took the easy way doing it on a 23. I did mine back in 2019 had to swap out the whole front end.
Finally update to 900 and 1200 Speed Twins actually much needed. Love that looks like 900 will become more sporty
Another great video ❤❤
Hi I’ve got that special speed twin that you tested still going fantastic ohlins front and rear I bumped into you at the Ducati scrambler launch in london 2023 Ash
I HATE screens on bikes. TWIN ANALOG DIALS ONLY! (Ok, with a tiny screen in between!) The z900rs does it perfectly.
Also, a single dial looks crap.
Yes indeed a Speed Twin RS there should be but I think it shouldn't have that single clock but twin clocks + let's hope it gets some tech like imu & possibly a blipper even if they are an option & some decent colour schemes please triumph as the are as dull as he'll!!😬 Nice little spy video MotoBob!!👌🏻👍🏻
Great updates to both bikes. Hope the 900 also gets a bigger fuel tank. Owned a Street Cup a couple years ago and while it was frugal, I regularly wished for more fuel range.
At 7min there are speed twin 1200 new shots when still talking about the 900.
It’s a no to digital clocks on a retro from me.
Reshaped tank might give steering lock better than an oil tanker as per current model.
Hope they’re not going to replace the dual clocks for the 1200 Speed Twin mate.
It just seem incongruous to me---- that Triumph make their engine styling a doppleganger replica of the Triumph unit engine that dates back to 1959 (right down to the fake Amal carbs!)---- but the REST of the bike, they keep moving further and further away from classic Triumph styling. I mean the black cases, the shape of the fuel tanks, the paint schemes and colors, the tank insignia, the tire sizes, the upside down forks, the alloy rims , upswept pipes, the signal lights and headlight, instrument cluster, the front fender, etc, ET CETERA !
I have a 2018 Street twin that is tweaked to my satisfaction.3 pot Nissin caliper,straight fit from a CB1000,Linear fork springs.14mm master cylinder up from 11mm great breaking.Drilled out the baffles from the OE exhausts,simple job,deeper rich sound especially under acceleration. Kept rear shocks,no point throwing money on others our roads make it impossible to find a good solution.Still running with cat,suits my requirements.Free spirits air filter to fit,not for any real gain but look good.18 tooth front sprocket.The bike still looks modern classic which is how i like it.Upside down forks and piggy back shocks will ruin the looks in my opinion.
Love my 2020 Speed Twin 1200. Nothing here to make me change.😊
Great video! I always wished Triumph would make a Speed Twin 1200 with up-spec suspension. The Thruxton is too uncomfortable for me. I agree 100% with Motobob. A Speed Twin 1200 RS would be awesome.
MotoBob ALWAYS delivering the good news ! 👌😎
Never understood why they didn't give the Speed Twin 900 a 17" front wheel when they have the T100 & T120 to satisfy the old farts and hipsters going for the nostalgic look.🤷♂🤦♂
There's going to be A LOT of good bikes with DEAD fancy and super expensive instruments in the not so far future.
I rode a 1983 GS1100G with anolog Tach and Speedo, that bike it's 41 years old.
Think about it . . . Do you really think these electronic instruments with the fancy color screens are going to last that long too ?
I HIGHLY DOUBT IT.
Keep em coming MotoBob. 👍
Quick sifter switch
Look!
Some more tank colors and graphics would be cool. I like the tanks on the 400's and the Trident.
This could push me into finally buying it :) (1200RS)
A larger fuel tank should be a priority. Also, twin clocks is a must!
As always very interesting. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
I was just asking about this on your other vid. 😎
the single hybrid clock looks like a step down on the 1200. If RE can do analog clocks with tech, then Triumph should also be able to. I bought my Thruxton R years ago because it encapsulated the retro aesthetic so well, and a lot of that had to do with the dual clocks. I also had the first R9T model and when the updated model came out with the classic dual clocks I immediately upgraded to that. The clocks are such an integral part of the retro styling, that going for a single hybrid clock seems like a step a little too far towards modernity. I felt the same way about the new Scrambler 1200 X, everything was fine except for the clocks. It would have been a great change if they'd just put the clocks from the t120 or the Thruxton onto it. Obviously, I'm not buying any of them and I'm just voicing my opinion on these, but it feels as though Triumph is beginning to move in a weird direction with their bikes. the Daytona 660, the Scrambler 1200 x, these prototype speed twins. They just don't have the same presence and vibe as their predecessors do. Yes, they've added a lot of new goodies, but the feeling isn't there. I guess it's to make them more accessible and reach a broader demographic at the expense of a little bit of character.
I would love to see
- a 17" front on the 900 and
- for both bikes an option for taller riders
I sold my Street Twin for the 18" front and stepped back to replace it with a Speed Twin (1200) because its just too small for me.
Just get a gen 1 ST and put decent suspension on it to retain the classic look. That’s what I’m doing with Nitron both ends.
Nice bike!
i have a 2021 Gen2 Speed Twin 1200, the suspension upgrade would be good but i'd want the twin clocks and not that modern tat for a dash
It's no surprise that the Speed Twins were next in line for an upgrade, compared to the new 400s and the Scrambler 1200 they were looking a little long in the tooth, no doubt the Scrambler 900 will follow along soon enough, if only to rationalise the range.
What I see here is Triumph making more of a difference between their modern classics the Speeds & Scramblers and their retros the Bonneville T100 & T120. Hence the switch to upside down forks, greater connectivity and sadly the big single screen with the rather half hearted attempt at TFT dashes. If you're going to go that way, then give us a selection of desktops, so we can have a sweeping virtual needle if we want.
Figured this mght happen when they dropped the Thruxton!
Going from an 18" frontwheel to a 17" only requires 1/2" longer forks. Or a thicker tyre. Or both in combination. 🙂
I owned the newer speed twin 1200, the overwhelming mod was folks putting the rear shocks from the Thruxton on the Speed...It was going to be my next mod. The rear was a bit to generic for Detroit roads.
I do like the new seat .
Beside the rear shocks upgrade I hope they make the 1200 a little bigger in overall size so that it fits also for riders above 1.80. E.g. a bigger fuel tank, lifting up the whole front with the dash to give more of a super bike feeling. And last but not least the twin semi analog clocks must stay.
They haven't changed their Bonneville frame / engine formula since they discontinued the Bonneville America model. Doubtful they would make any changes to the 1200 frame for the Speed Twin or the T120. one can dream tho! just my 0.02
TRIUMPH should finally rework its "Lowrider" Scrambler 900. So that it becomes a real motorcycle, e.g. like the 400 X or 1200 X.
Like the t100 but actually know I would prefer the 900 street twin as prefer tubeless tyres dash is ok but twin clocks would look nicer
I own the 1200 speed twin and think the bike is great, but for me the 1200 engine is to big and powerful for day to day riding, but the styling is spot on. So I will be interested in this 900 model as the power of the engine seems to suit my riding ability more lets hope it appears in the future.
As a very happy and proud owner of a first generation Street Twin 900 I hope what I see is just an RS version of the 900 which may replace the Street Cup. PLS Don't get me wrong, it's not that I'm against improvements like upside forks or a digital gauge etc, but I love the street/speed Twin 900 as it is just because it doesn't have such fancy tech and yet it's still modern but looks Retro in a perfect blend. If I wanted upside down forks and digital dash I would probably got a Ducati scrambler but I didn't.
I admit tough that the front headlight looks better and an aluminum rear swing arm could also help to shave some kg away from the motorcycle making it a bit lighter which it will always a welcome improvement, but I hope its just an RS version and that's it which I'm sure it will be a nice addition to the 900 series for those who feel that a 1200cc would be just too much.
They stopped making the thruxton RS so they could make way for the ST RS so makes total sense.
If the ST1200 got the dash from from the scrambler 1200 XE & Rocket i would be OK with that. Proper TFT. If it gets the 660 Trident/Tiger/Daytona dash that would be so disappointing - giving up twin clocks for a budget dash is just cheap. At least if full TFT that is something premium…..
It's about damn time.
sad if it goes to single gauge vs twin gauges. makes it too modern if it goes single. I personally made mine already into a Speed Twin 1200 R or RS however you want to brand it.
Here headlamps look like speed 400. Also, any updates on new scrambler 900?
Hope the new speed twin 900 can be seen on the eicma 2025
Triumph please give the 1200 chunkir / wider rears. 180 width at least!
They need to take out the nanny throttle limits where the ecu doesnt give you what you ask for. eg 80% should give you 80% not 71%
I think thats another limit they put on the 1200 so it doesnt have as good as performance as the thruxton.
I hope they are not planning to put nissin instead of brembo, I wanted the stealth paint job which was not available as I went for booking so I am waiting, I hope they maintain the classic look and iconic style.
Looks like its getting that swfull trident clock, would be a major L in my book.
I'm not a lady about the analog clocks. If the color is right, I think I'll buy one
It took me a year to make changes to the front and rear suspension, get the right sound and performance out of the intake, engine and exhaust, by deleting the airbox and installing a high flow filter, professionally tuning the engine, deleting the cat, finding the perfect headers and end cans to really make this 270⁰ twin both sing freely and stir the soul of the enthusiast.... verex of Tasmania, Australia headers straight through to British Customs Predator pro end cans achieved this outcome... and gave 18% more torque and about 12% more HP throughout the entire rev range up to redline.
If Triumph could achieve this, or at least some of these gains out of the box, I think it could only broaden the attachment to a lustworthy ride.
By deleting the Airbox, wouldn’t it lose the build up of static pressure that the Airbox are tuned for the Throttlebody and cylinder intake?
@@Morados tuned professionally to take the more open airflow into account
See triumph have also just brought out the classic Elvis bike with a whole lot of shakin going on 😂😂😂 ps this is true I think it’s a T120 😊👍😊
The colorful Elvis bike looks better than most of the matte-black monochrome hearses Triumph keeps rolling out
A bigger tank and 6th gear plz
Wish someone besides (MV Augusta) would a retro styled bike with actual HP. I bought an R9T a few years ago over a Thruxton partly because of the power. But now that one of my bikes has 200hp the R9T feels slow.
Why not something like a speed twin or xsr 900 with 150hp?
Needs a higher seat height on the 1200 pls!
TRIUMPH-TEAM:
Twin clocks please !!!!!!!!!
Triumph. - Please keep the twin clocks and add a nicer looking twin exhaust like the British customs or Vance & Hines versions! Maybe a totally blacked out version too but beggars can’t be choosers!
They should give wired spoke wheels on speed 1200.
Speed twin 1200 with a quickshifter PLEASE
I was hoping for this news but got impatient and ended up with a sweet deal on a Thruxton RS. The only thing that would make me jealous of the ST1200 would be cruise control and a quick shifter at this point.
Interesting but will keep my T120.
Quick shifter
They finally put the Ohlins on it?
kislux You are so well-informed about luxury accessories and bags. You've obviously done your due diligence and the comparison to the US is very informative...because of course, I live in New York. thank you very much.
If they get rid of the twin guages I'll never get the new one.
Same here.
And 6 gears at the 900?
Loosing the clocks? Loosing me as a potential buyer
Does Triumph actually honor the warranty on these?
"Pretty significant upgrade"
Right...
They definitely needed to update the Speed 900 after the 400 came out with at least upside down forks, LED lights and indicators. I Wish they would also upgrade it to a six speed gear box but I doubt they will.
Every company needs an RS version of the base bike. That would save some real money in the farkel department.
Clocks? I look at large screens all day. Not impressed with most digital screens on motorcycles. Twin clocks are just elegant. Provide a tuning app for my phone and I will be fine. I tweak my bike settings every few years, otherwise I just ride.
another motoboob video
Why an RS? My stock Speed Twin 1200 already does accidental wheelies in sport mode. There's plenty of sport bikes already and noone buys the Thruxton.
Was not impressed with my street twin.
Electrical and gearbox issues.
Mine was one of the first bikes to be made in Thailand.
Hopefully they have improved.
Changes that customers are asking for … like price reductions, centre stand as standard, a useful rear rack as standard, and if we are talking tech, cruise control included in all. But if they are just adding tech and raising the price then I’ll find something else.
Finally...
If all this is true, this will be my first bike
I love everything about the speed twin 1200 but its so expensive. I rather have the st900 but cant stand that low seating position. Why do they always make lower seats when lower the cc such as the 900. Many shorter riders can handle the 1200 sadle and the 900 its not a beginner bike anyway. If the prices go up and up in prices and insurance cost one way is to go down in cc but you cant if you are like me 6’2. Then you have to go to other brands. Come on Triumph not every larger/longer rider needs the highest cc or can afford it. Time to change your business model
No no Triumph.All you needed to do is watercool the Bonneville 865 se,twin clocks and 360 crank. OH and sort out your gearboxes.😮
I can't blame Triumph for going modern. People say they want "retro bikes" But the truth is, people don't really want pure, gutsy, mechanical motorcycles. People want bikes with quick shifters, and cruise control, and ride modes, and Apple Car Play, and 2 cup holders, and phone connectivity so they can get even more hooked up into the matrix. The public wants "retro" bikes that do pretty much everything for you but wipe your arse and tuck you into bed
I don't want those things. I want a simple bike that goes like a scalded dog.
@@rottweilerfun9520 Me too. Although I wouldn't like to think of my bike as a mistreated dog. Flash and balls is how I think of it 😁🔥🧨
I really don't like either of them... The Street Twin/Speed Twin 900 is the perfect entry level Bonneville with just the right mix of new and classic. Hopefully they will bring back the Street Twin name and just give the Speed Twin 900 title to the new bike.
Honestly throwing the cheap shitty trident dash on the speed twins is a massive downgrade, the analog dial is one of the major leg ups it has over the Moto Guzzi V7 Stone, throwing that away is just a dumb move. The only technology a bike like the 900 should have is the legally required ABS, the appeal of a bike like this to a lot of people is to get away from all the unnecessary nonsense you get on most modern bikes now.
I hope they're just throwing this dash and headlight on for testing purposes like on that test bike for a potential Daytona 765, it'd be out of character for Triumph to drop the ball on details like this that they normally always nail on their retro's.
The more bikes I ride with Triumph's two-panel TFT, the more I hate it
WHY ?? ST is the only bike that gives enought power with modern retro look.. now it will look like cf moto or jawa 😢 they should just put one more gear and thats it🎉 btw 18" wheels is really big problem to find tyre but still they don't need to change it... KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF from our ST's Triumph😎
is thruxton 400 coming or not?