Why Did Walmart Sell This Gaming PC SO CHEAP?!

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  • čas přidán 10. 03. 2023
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  • @ToastyBros
    @ToastyBros  Před rokem +5

    FlexiSpot Spring Sale Up to $160 off from March 8-15, BUY NOW
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  • @martmeister
    @martmeister Před rokem +67

    That comparison at the end with 8GB vs 16GB was clutch. Actually surprised it was a lot more. Maybe in other games it would be.

    • @MetaDude
      @MetaDude Před rokem +5

      Dual channel ram also has lower cpu usage

  • @tacticalimpact98
    @tacticalimpact98 Před rokem +16

    Walmart and electronic express are selling a version of this with a 3060ti, an i712700f with 1tb m.2ssd and 16gigs of 3200mb ram for 1199 which is pretty unbeatable when it comes to prebuilts. Finding a 3060ti prebuilt for under 1200 is very hard, most of the time you’re getting a 3060 or even a 3050 or of on the other side of the fence a 6700xt. But not only does it do that, it does it with a processor that’s way more than you need too. Only problem is cooling so you can either run the fans high or buy another fan for $20.

    • @tacticalimpact98
      @tacticalimpact98 Před rokem

      @@Nighterlev sure if you only care about raw frames and only on specific games like warzone. Other game benchmarks the 3060 ti still does better. If you care about ray tracing, lighting, water, and graphics then go for the 3060 ti. Also generally see smoother overall frames rather than stuttering or freezing. All that plus nvidia's tools are better.

    • @ViolentMLG
      @ViolentMLG Před rokem +1

      @@tacticalimpact98 Raytracing is the only benefit of an NVIDIA GPU, and RT is primarily a gimmick, especially on those budget GPU's.
      AMD does not have more stutter or other issues, if you have any issues that's your system and not the card.

  • @davidhouseright8362
    @davidhouseright8362 Před rokem

    Thank Ya for throwing the Mw2 Benchmark In There, Shows you Try to listen to your viewers! Keep up the Great Work!

  • @micahv9365
    @micahv9365 Před rokem +237

    I know you guys like Overwatch 2 but it seems like you include a really long section of gameplay compared to other games

    • @1upnolan340
      @1upnolan340 Před rokem +25

      Skip it if it bothers you then 💀

    • @PayrollMigs
      @PayrollMigs Před rokem +96

      @@1upnolan340 constructive critism

    • @toufusoup
      @toufusoup Před rokem +55

      @@1upnolan340 nah mate that’s good feedback for the video creators. The overwatch section took up nearly 2 1/2 minutes and there’s no timestamps so the segment could use a trimming

    • @nkosanamakhubela2586
      @nkosanamakhubela2586 Před rokem +18

      @@1upnolan340 bro is mad🤣

    • @19deltascout43
      @19deltascout43 Před rokem +3

      Cause it's casual like these two

  • @Tech.Closet
    @Tech.Closet Před rokem +27

    Great deal, good solution for starters.

  • @CyberClu
    @CyberClu Před rokem +11

    Good deal, but kinda worried at the GPU temps with the first game tested. Mid 80's. It's probably $500 bucks because it doesn't look like a gaming PC, but also the lack of decent airflow.

    • @CrashCarson14
      @CrashCarson14 Před rokem +7

      I don’t know much but for the price i can drill holes for air lol

    • @zlonewolf
      @zlonewolf Před rokem +2

      You can always add an extra fan for $10 bux.
      Its probably come with a small fan. A bigger fan or two can greatly increase air flow.

  • @HoloScope
    @HoloScope Před rokem +18

    I bought a FlexiSpot standing electric desk for $180 from Amazon, great desk and the instructions were easy to follow! idk how it was so cheap, it's very solid!

    • @hariranormal5584
      @hariranormal5584 Před rokem

      I remember your name from a discord or two lmao, I forgot which ones tho

  • @damolin77
    @damolin77 Před rokem +6

    Great videos Jack and Matty really enjoy them thank you .

  • @sheepster70
    @sheepster70 Před 6 měsíci

    Hi guys, Great videos. Can you put dual channel into these HP Victus PC's???. Or does the newer versions have Dual channel? Cheers.

  • @riseabove3082
    @riseabove3082 Před rokem +1

    Needs more airflow, those temps are pretty high on the cpu and the gpu. And of course dual channel ram. Otherwise, not bad.

  • @rippenzong2455
    @rippenzong2455 Před rokem +3

    i got one of these after black friday as an open box return for 400. good pc. used it for 3 months then sold it in pieces for around 600 because no one would buy it whole

  • @bosozokurx7404
    @bosozokurx7404 Před rokem +5

    if you're deciding between this prebuilt or building your own just build your own you can get similar performance for around 400 dollars.
    decent deal tho for a prebuilt.

  • @CFWhitman
    @CFWhitman Před rokem

    I've seen quite a bit of Samsung memory in HP business desktops of late. They still use more SK Hynix, though.

  • @StepHire16
    @StepHire16 Před rokem +15

    I bought this exact pc over building one because of your channel. I went to 32gb ram and it is amazing for what I do.

    • @soloplaysgames9965
      @soloplaysgames9965 Před rokem +2

      SIgh...

    • @StepHire16
      @StepHire16 Před rokem +5

      @SoloGaming
      I paid less then they did. Pretty sure I got a good enough deal for my situation

    • @soloplaysgames9965
      @soloplaysgames9965 Před rokem

      @Metcalf Mafia Motorsports If it works for you and you enjoy it thats awesome. Id just be more careful next time. You basically paid for the graphics card. The rest is e-waste. You could have gotten an msi laptop with a 3060 ti for around the same price as this desktop. Or a steamdeck. This is basically a Dell optiplex budget build which Instead of buying this you could buy a 5700xt for 150 bucks on ebay and a dell optiplex for as low as 45 bucks usually around 80 and it'd be better than this for a fraction of the price.

    • @StepHire16
      @StepHire16 Před rokem

      @SoloGaming So, the fact that I had an optiplex with an i7 6700k and a rx580 before this? I didn't need a huge upgrade. But, an upgrade nonetheless.

    • @jaygocray500
      @jaygocray500 Před rokem

      @@soloplaysgames9965 can u simplify what u said bc i’m trying to buy my 1st pc and my friend to get this one

  • @alc1472
    @alc1472 Před rokem +1

    It's so sad for people like me that are from Italy we get excluded from anything tech related because if you wanna buy something from america it has atleast 60-120 $ of shipping or can't even be shipped here

    • @EmeraldHill-vo1cs
      @EmeraldHill-vo1cs Před rokem

      Come to australia, postage is mostly the same price or more than the item.

  • @Hablift
    @Hablift Před rokem +1

    I thought about this build month ago. 12400f + rtx 3060.But bought Lenovo T5 the same specification. For 1100$...Pc parts very expensive in ky County.

  • @tablameister
    @tablameister Před rokem +2

    Many refurbs from manufacturers like Dell and HP are lease returns. Large companies (including government entities) will often lease, rather than buy, computers, as this allows them to get the latest tech and they get to write off the leasing costs. Once the lease is up, the computers are returned to the manufacturer (the company will then lease a batch of new computers). The manufacturer checks them out and then sells them as refurbs.

  • @Catcher5632
    @Catcher5632 Před rokem

    At Costco in Canada, there is a brand new hp with an Intel Arc A380, Intel i5 12400, and 16GB of DDR4 Ram for $699.00 Canadian.

  • @Falconsgang8988
    @Falconsgang8988 Před rokem

    i got a rx550 and a ryzen 3 3100 build and i had single stick 8gb ram and went to dual chanel 8gb (2x8gb) and major major diffference. framerates jumped like 15-20 fps per game def worth it. i went with pny xlr8 ram

  • @johnrusselsmurf4842
    @johnrusselsmurf4842 Před rokem +1

    Bought an Omen in 2019.... really wish I woulda held out for these. 1650 Super vs RTX2060. AND A R5 3500 6 core VS A 12 THREAD i5! 400$ more for less lol

  • @UndauntedGaming
    @UndauntedGaming Před rokem

    4:44 HP does infact use Samsung Memory in their builds. Ive seen and owned multiple HP builds which all had samsung memory,1,2,4 gb

  • @h3m1cuda
    @h3m1cuda Před rokem

    What keyboard is that on the FlexiSpot desk?

  • @FunkyTechy
    @FunkyTechy Před rokem

    Those temps are a good way to get you to buy a new computer every 3 years. It’s sweaty in there lol

  • @realnarwhal
    @realnarwhal Před rokem +1

    after all the issues I've had with my Victus gaming laptop, and Hp refusing to fix the issues under warrenty, I am never going to be buying any hp products any time soon

  • @Youthuba
    @Youthuba Před rokem +1

    They're selling this same computer in India for about $1000. It just has a 3060 in it, that's the only thing different

  • @TherealBlackheart
    @TherealBlackheart Před rokem

    What program benchmarks ur games in video?

  • @ms-ex8em
    @ms-ex8em Před 3 měsíci

    can i fit two hard discs into this victus 15 l ?? one is an 18 tbyte and the other is an 8 tbyte !! ?? thanks..................

  • @Jamaican_Gaming
    @Jamaican_Gaming Před rokem

    quick question jack and Matt. My name is Maurice and I'm asking you guys to please review the ASUS Tuf gaming a17 2022 please. As always love the content you guys post keep it coming.

  • @bender22222
    @bender22222 Před rokem

    where did you get that keyboard? It's cool

  • @linuxuser145
    @linuxuser145 Před rokem

    i love the simple look it looks nice

  • @jaminova_1969
    @jaminova_1969 Před rokem

    I'm building a 1 TB / 16MB AMD 5600G for under $450. With my employee discount, it was closer to $400 total.

  • @itsneon_
    @itsneon_ Před rokem

    just a suggestion, many people like competitive people on a budget kinda like to see the most fps games like fortnite to get so could u try going on performance mode low settings and see the max fps?

  • @SixetyThird
    @SixetyThird Před 11 měsíci

    I Have This Pc What Are Some Good Options To Upgrade ? I Play FiveM Mostly Kinda Laggy And Crashes Sometimes.

  • @channoufimedhoussem8920

    How come no here is talking about airflow and those temp ? well it is very good deal for a pc with those specs but still no one proposed a proper solution for airflow and temp ! i will be really looking forward to hear a solution

  • @Retrocidal
    @Retrocidal Před rokem +3

    Shit you can't beat that for 500 bucks

    • @aymen.d1372
      @aymen.d1372 Před rokem

      yep i5 gen 12 is not cheap and 2060 is like 200 250

  • @TheCashman007
    @TheCashman007 Před rokem

    wish we had this in my country ,can't even get a CPU/MB for that price !

  • @shiftto
    @shiftto Před rokem

    when pc parts price skyrocket like nivida 4080 for 1700$, motherboard over 300$. this hp pc save people lives

  • @itsdeonlol
    @itsdeonlol Před rokem

    That desk is nice!!!

  • @ronmarshall8732
    @ronmarshall8732 Před rokem

    crazy what a good case can do i have same specs only my cpu is diffrent ryzen 5500 and duel channel 16 it runs 30c-45 peak temps

  • @suganthikumaran3404
    @suganthikumaran3404 Před rokem

    can you test out the minisforum hx90g / hx80g

  • @ofdime
    @ofdime Před rokem +50

    For $500 not terrible honestly pretty decently priced for what you're getting. I think that for $500 you could get something better if you built it yourself but it would have to be a different cpu GPU combo. Honestly pretty impressed with this

    • @Adamdyball-cz7yk
      @Adamdyball-cz7yk Před rokem

      agreed

    • @jon9590
      @jon9590 Před rokem +15

      No you couldn't. A decent card itself better than this one costs $500 or more. An i7 costs at least $300+

    • @ofdime
      @ofdime Před rokem

      ​@@jon9590 i9 9900k goes for $250 on ebay regularly. 1080's which are much better performance than a 2060 go for under $150 I just picked mine up for $110, if you want something newer go for a 5700xt for roughly the same price you could easily build something for the same price with better performance especially with dual channel ram. 16gb is only $45 for 3200 mhz anymore. Personally I would go with
      Ryzen 5 5600x for $100 or less,
      a decent b550 for $100
      Case PSU and SSD for around 100
      16gb ddr4 for $50 or so
      Leaving $150 for whatever graphics card you want. Probably a 1080, 5700xt or a 2060 that's not oem and will perform better. Maybe a 6600 if you can get a good deal I've seen a couple go for that low but it's rare. 2070s go for around $150 if you deal hunt a bit , 1070 ti's all day. You could even go with a 1070 and a cheaper CPU and get roughly the same performance given that the CPU is bottlenecked and build a similarly performing PC for $350

    • @LagiohX3
      @LagiohX3 Před rokem +3

      ​@@jon9590 for 500 you can buy a 3070 new, a 3080 used

    • @jon9590
      @jon9590 Před rokem +12

      @@LagiohX3 OK, but you still need the rest of the parts.. I never buy used as you take a chance with no warranty.

  • @inctru
    @inctru Před rokem +2

    Pre-built PC's like these often skimp on some component quality & are also usually harder to update/upgrade in some ways due to proprietary changes & corner-cutting. They also tend to be loaded down with more bloatware, & have greater system cooling challenges. I would rather spend a little more & hand-pick each system component brand/type & build it myself when it comes to desktop systems.

  • @justinluttmer
    @justinluttmer Před rokem

    Went to your website but didn’t see it for sale. 😢

  • @cavumink538
    @cavumink538 Před rokem

    ...... that case format is so common these days xD

  • @martmeister
    @martmeister Před rokem

    I found that DX12 is not great on Fortnite and when I change it to DX11, all the choppiness goes away. Maybe try that for next time.

  • @Keullo-eFIN
    @Keullo-eFIN Před rokem +23

    Great value, the RAM is practically the only downside.

    • @shalecletheroe7025
      @shalecletheroe7025 Před rokem +2

      Don’t answer its a scam you might know that but I just wanted to warn you

    • @Keullo-eFIN
      @Keullo-eFIN Před rokem +3

      @@shalecletheroe7025 Yeah those crap comments are all over youtube.

    • @billkissick6268
      @billkissick6268 Před rokem

      Incorrect. Please research before buying this junk.

    • @DJboutit2
      @DJboutit2 Před rokem

      Video card to a 6600xt video card would be better

  • @Tekillyah
    @Tekillyah Před rokem

    That case is holding the temps back. A rehousing should be done.

  • @_chino25
    @_chino25 Před rokem

    Are these pcs as reliable as a ps4 or better?

  • @davidmoore1170
    @davidmoore1170 Před rokem

    how did you guys start off

  • @couch-potato2099
    @couch-potato2099 Před rokem

    Dang I’ve always wanted a gaming pc but never could afford it. My birthday is April 11th. I would love this or any pc. With me and my moms car just breaking down and bills I haven’t been able to save up for a pc. Maybe the pc gods will bless me for my birthday!

  • @dacooldudee
    @dacooldudee Před rokem

    Yo toasty bros, can you review the MSI GF63 Gtx 1650 version??

  • @thatoneguy4286
    @thatoneguy4286 Před rokem

    By any chance do you guys know the adverage fps for apex?

  • @suleimanabdulrazaq7671
    @suleimanabdulrazaq7671 Před rokem +1

    Next time plz test spiderman, avengers on your budget PC's

  • @whitemask221
    @whitemask221 Před rokem +1

    I was just looking at this pc at Walmart last night

  • @douglasmannor6510
    @douglasmannor6510 Před rokem +1

    Who makes that baller keyboard in the desk ad?

  • @scoobygms210
    @scoobygms210 Před rokem

    This is by far the best deal I've seen on here

  • @tylerjones477
    @tylerjones477 Před 10 měsíci

    i paid 399 for mine bran new on a double clearance from walmart bro i was like cant pass up it has a 1650 and ryzen 5600g so imma upgrade the ram gpu and ssd and have a really nice pc. is it possible to case swap these victus btw?

    • @detachmentbravo2-6
      @detachmentbravo2-6 Před 8 měsíci

      YEA BUT U NEED AND NEW MOTHERBORARDAND POWERSUPPLY I JUST DID MINE AND TOWER OF COURES

  • @ezecskornfan
    @ezecskornfan Před 9 měsíci

    this build is not bad. Can't be really improved and the guarantee has to be worth something in walmart, right?

  • @ofdime
    @ofdime Před rokem +3

    You should test the 2060 vs a regular 2060, it looks like an oem GPU, I know that gamersnexus has tested dell oem cards and a lot of times they get thermally throttled because of bad cooler or even underclocked and can be weird. I wonder if HP does the same thing

    • @MysteriousStranger95
      @MysteriousStranger95 Před rokem +3

      I had an hp pavilion gaming desktop with an oem 1660 super that was actually a mobile card slapped onto a board that could fit in a pci. Card would always come up unregistered or unknown when trying to ID and performed like a 1060. These pcs are e waste. Shame on Toasty for shilling these un-upgradeable computers on to unknowledgeable customers

    • @shawnlibby675
      @shawnlibby675 Před rokem +1

      ​@@MysteriousStranger95 Why are you saying this p c gaming tower ain't worth five hundred dollars.. At walmart..

  • @FriarPop
    @FriarPop Před rokem

    They sold it for $500 because it was worth $400 and they just made $100 off you. Its 2generations behind and its also value tier components with 2060 and i5.

  • @pentt
    @pentt Před 10 měsíci

    Hey so can u show a roblox game like jailbreak as ur gameplay im getting thid pc but i judt wanna see if it can run all the games in max graphics

  • @shorty808100
    @shorty808100 Před rokem

    i'll just stay on my i5 11400H/3050/64GB of 3200mhz ram till i can build my next gaming pc, it will play anything i want till i get another tower built, although not a fan of Intel *( first intel based pc ever for me )* or gaming laptop's but it works just fine for now

  • @MikeDragonborn
    @MikeDragonborn Před rokem

    It's out of stock lol I def wanted to see these PCs. You should add more games to your lineup. I don't play overwatch or the other kiddie game. If like to see AAA titles, dead space etc just new games and not overwatch

  • @CrunkFunk
    @CrunkFunk Před rokem

    A fulfillment center is literally for third-party retail.

  • @krenotenze
    @krenotenze Před rokem

    Dave Foley and Seth Rogen laying down the tech info!

  • @atomiapx
    @atomiapx Před rokem

    I have this but with amd parts (r5 5600g, RX 6400, 8gb ram(sadly)

  • @grahamb7947
    @grahamb7947 Před rokem +1

    No wonder the Victus machines are so cheap: as usual OEMs are making generational upgrades impossible for the end user, so after 3 to 4 years realistically (sooner for a lot of people because AAA game requirements), you're going to be shelling out on an entirely new computer.
    There needs to be laws written to prevent the practice of preventing motherboard upgrades. So much unnecessary e-waste.

  • @fsisaiass
    @fsisaiass Před rokem

    what ram upgrade can i get for this pc

  • @AdaptaniumArt
    @AdaptaniumArt Před 5 měsíci

    “So cheap!”
    Me: ok! Lets see…
    Also me: 500$!!?!

  • @jonpeley
    @jonpeley Před rokem +2

    Refurbished or DKoldished?

  • @jaydenowens9522
    @jaydenowens9522 Před rokem

    What is this PC called?

  • @nickchan-smutko2895
    @nickchan-smutko2895 Před rokem

    is this better than building your own?

  • @Poteluz
    @Poteluz Před rokem

    Damn only single channel RAM, that fucks it all up

  • @o_o6869
    @o_o6869 Před rokem

    pretty amazing build for gamers

  • @thegooberboy
    @thegooberboy Před rokem +1

    nice keyboard 0:53

  • @michaelwbell90
    @michaelwbell90 Před rokem

    HP uses Samsung all the time. they swap back and forth depending on the price of the system.

  • @Adamdyball-cz7yk
    @Adamdyball-cz7yk Před rokem

    You should try and find a desktop 3060 or 3050

  • @universalshorts412
    @universalshorts412 Před rokem

    How is it so smooth

  • @captain4005
    @captain4005 Před rokem

    I have this PC and all I did was upgrade the ram to 32gb an some more storage and it runs amazing

    • @saudiPLAYS
      @saudiPLAYS Před rokem

      Do you know what fps it’ runs on the games you play?

  • @Vertical_casey
    @Vertical_casey Před rokem

    I have that 2060 super 8gb in my home built pc that I got on Amazon for £200

  • @jaygdd4560
    @jaygdd4560 Před rokem

    do it run fivem?

  • @Xuhrh
    @Xuhrh Před rokem +2

    i have that pc but it overheats when I ply halo infinite.

    • @steven7297
      @steven7297 Před rokem

      new fan or something that’ll fix ?

    • @darkkingastos4369
      @darkkingastos4369 Před rokem

      You can add a fan to the inside where the side screen is... just make sure the fan connector is long enough to reach and remove the ssd case and the little metal brace... drops temps quite a bit

  • @obvil0001
    @obvil0001 Před rokem +7

    That’s the exact one I got, it’s legit! It worked perfectly and properly and it was amazing and still is! I was wondering how would I put a new case on it though?

    • @southboundtp2067
      @southboundtp2067 Před rokem

      It is possible with the right kind of adapters.

    • @zlurkx2432
      @zlurkx2432 Před rokem +1

      If you don't want the trouble of figuring out what adapters you need, you can just buy a new motherboard that's compatible with your current CPU to put in a new case.

    • @CPUjunkie
      @CPUjunkie Před rokem +2

      The HP motherboard really can't be moved to a new case because the front IO is built on

    • @zeroturn7091
      @zeroturn7091 Před rokem

      @@CPUjunkie it can be, but it isn’t worth it. Best case scenario would be doing a case graft. Outside of that you’d lose PCI slots not lining up, and a lot of standoffs won’t mount. HP uses two proprietary connectors on their PSUs, and someone already mentioned needed an adapter. You would need some type of actuator to activate the power button from pressing the one on the new case, or know the power button pin out for soldering extensions to the new case.
      The USB and line in should be able to be addressed with extensions replacing the ones on the new case. I’m not sure about the SD card reader, but in theory the solution would be the same as the latter suggestion for the power button. Hard to say because a replacement could keep it from POSTing.
      The motherboard may be the most useless part of the PC.

    • @billkissick6268
      @billkissick6268 Před rokem

      By buying a new case, a new motherboard, a new power supply, at minimum. Because they are all cheap, proprietary HP crap.

  • @Kingtayboii
    @Kingtayboii Před rokem

    Can it handle Five m?

  • @therumblemain
    @therumblemain Před rokem +2

    This video was amazing! I might even try to get that PC.

  • @VibieLines
    @VibieLines Před rokem

    83C at onepoint what the...

  • @CHASIN_A_BASS
    @CHASIN_A_BASS Před rokem

    Walmart carries that I store also here

  • @cronti9445
    @cronti9445 Před rokem

    In moroco just d rtx 2060 it 400$

  • @trzfnafplush7228
    @trzfnafplush7228 Před rokem

    Damn looks like I know what I’m getting

    • @Ties445
      @Ties445 Před rokem

      U end up getting it?

  • @noahkirkpatrick8912
    @noahkirkpatrick8912 Před rokem

    I have this build putting a 1660 super in it

  • @PinkyTech
    @PinkyTech Před rokem

    Hopefully no single channel ram at the pc bros…

  • @jayden_skingisjesuschrist1876

    yo toasty bros!!!!! build an all newegg budget pc!!

  • @larryleverett667
    @larryleverett667 Před rokem

    where is the CD/DVD drive? lol

    • @riseabove3082
      @riseabove3082 Před rokem

      Nobody uses those and just about every single computer manufacture has stopped including those for the last 15 to 20 years. Where have you been all this time....still looking for your record player too?

  • @Nozixxx
    @Nozixxx Před rokem

    Can you plz play rl when you do benchmark

    • @lowkeys_28
      @lowkeys_28 Před rokem

      if they can run cyberpunk they can run rocket league at 240+

  • @adamrosenberg4343
    @adamrosenberg4343 Před rokem

    God I thought that was Seth Rogan for a second

  • @ilovepuppers10
    @ilovepuppers10 Před rokem

    no clue

  • @jonathanbelmares8241
    @jonathanbelmares8241 Před rokem +2

    You really need to decluter your comments man. Half are bots spamming fake lottery scams

  • @blueshky
    @blueshky Před rokem

    You look like hockey player Vladimir Tarasenko

  • @USAF_Medic
    @USAF_Medic Před měsícem

    They sell these cheap because they are cheaply designed and produced. I only bought mine to try out the newest 13 gen I7. The case is very thin and tinney. The CPU can't be upgraded to anything faster bercause of a matched power supply and limited cooling. It has only 2 memory slots so it's expensive to upgrade it. It has only one NVME m.2 slot and one 3.5" drive bay. For some unknown reason, the only USB-C port has only 5gig speed but the two USC-A ports above it on the front are 10gig. It's a micky mouse setup. All these things make the machine sink in value after it's sold. I would not buy it again, I would get the similar Dell machine.