Irish Army on the border

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  • čas přidán 13. 07. 2024

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  • @theirishhistorian
    @theirishhistorian  Před 3 lety +91

    I do hope you enjoyed the video

    • @Thomas-uf8si
      @Thomas-uf8si Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you

    • @Alex-gn2rb
      @Alex-gn2rb Před 2 lety +4

      Thanks for sharing it , what year are we talking? Late 80s maybe.

    • @heritage195
      @heritage195 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Alex-gn2rb Yes mid to late 80's. The Israeli helmet and the slit pocket on the combat jacket would indicate this time frame. Plus the FN 7.62 was still in use prior to the introduction of the Steyr 5.56 in 89/90

    • @gazzanorth4373
      @gazzanorth4373 Před 2 lety +3

      Hilarious watching these jokers pretending they were interested in stopping the the IRA murdering protestants along the border. The Irish army and garda regularly colluded with republican death squads.

    • @karl_thwub
      @karl_thwub Před 2 lety

      @@gazzanorth4373 Gazza these myths sustain you. They are part of your cultural heritage. The saddest myth of all is that the Catholic people of Republic hated Protestants and were glad to see them killed in terrorist attacks. Believe me they were not.
      Much ignored is the RUC, UDR and British Military Intelligence collusion with Loyalist paramilitaries. Across the border nobodies hands were clean.

  • @skullfloweredavenger4779
    @skullfloweredavenger4779 Před 2 lety +25

    Respect to the Irish brothers and sisters serving their country. You do a great job for the UN. From a British Veteran

  • @MarvinofMars
    @MarvinofMars Před 2 lety +11

    Meeting these guys on the road was never the problem ,but that pot hole 19 sec in was always the terror! 🤣 😱
    From Tyrone I had a Cousin , American born and raised to the rank of Colonel in the US Army in the mid 1980s.
    Whilst serving in NATO in Germany he arrived to Tyrone..My father took him to watch GAA football in Croke Park, at a semi-final late summer time.
    Upon arriving at the British Army Newry Check Point the guy jumped out and introduced himself the the British Squaddies who hadn't a clue how to react.
    We all stayed in the car an sunk low to avoid attention even at 11 years old this was normal.
    Upon stopping at Ravensdale CO Louth just yards from the British check point he spotted a small Irish Army Post House, again jumped out of a moving car to greet the guy, who in a small room watching TV on a portable TV., alone. Guy hadn't a clue how react either, and yes again we sunk in the seat calling him to "get back in the car! "
    Being a Colonel we asked "who thought looked the best"? "The Irish Army", why ? they pretend there is only one guy whilst the rest are hiding near by...if only he knew : )

  • @AnonAnonAnon
    @AnonAnonAnon Před 2 lety +119

    Good to see the Irish Army had the same logistics problems as us in the British Army. New ballistic helmets (great), helmet covers that don't fit, so black tape used to secure it. I remember most of BAOR in the late 80s running around training areas with harry blacked helmet covers!

    • @heritage195
      @heritage195 Před 2 lety +6

      A slice of Land Rover tyre tube did the job!

    • @barnabyg6808
      @barnabyg6808 Před 2 lety +7

      Oh so THATS why there was black stuff on the bottom of helmets

    • @heritage195
      @heritage195 Před 2 lety

      @@barnabyg6808 :-)

    • @Lewy1900
      @Lewy1900 Před 2 lety

      Always thought the black tape was for keeping the scrim attached, they would have been given correct size helmet in training.

    • @heritage195
      @heritage195 Před 2 lety

      @@Lewy1900 It was.

  • @richard9444
    @richard9444 Před 2 lety +16

    I got pulled over by them ,I had British number plates on my car and was staying local , ended up in a pub with a few that night getting drunk ,,,I'm English by the way crazy times .

  • @npche9865
    @npche9865 Před 2 lety +13

    Lovely bit of history, mate.

  • @mikemanners1069
    @mikemanners1069 Před 2 lety +33

    It looks like they use a similar web gear to what my dad used in nam....

    • @padraigcurran3236
      @padraigcurran3236 Před 2 lety +16

      Irish kit is more in line with Brit Kit, from the late early 70s it was 1960 pattern uniforms and 37 pattern webbing. Between 1978 and 1980 37 pattern was replaced with 58 pattern webbing while in 1985 a modified version of the uniform, 85 pattern, was worn till 1998. PLCE webbing replaced 58 pattern sometime in the mid-90s. the typical helmet of the defence forces was British Mark 4 which was replaced in 85 by the orlite helmet. Though I will say the M69 flak jacket was issued, however, it is an extremely rare Irish Variant.

    • @mikemanners1069
      @mikemanners1069 Před 2 lety +1

      @@padraigcurran3236 Thank you for the info. I like the Irish kit better...

    • @joemama.556
      @joemama.556 Před 2 lety +1

      the plce is 100 times more comfy than an alice webbing set, I got both and I hate the alice one, its horrible for long hikes

    • @armalite1124
      @armalite1124 Před 2 lety

      Irish kit in the 70s-80s were the American M69 flak jacket, OR-201 Orlite Helmet, m58 and (I think it's called) m68 webbing. Simple but modest

  • @benhaggerty8707
    @benhaggerty8707 Před 2 lety +10

    This video is cool
    The comment section is not
    A lot of very angry people down there.

  • @AJ_real
    @AJ_real Před 2 lety +51

    Do we actually have a tank? What's that armoured vehicle our lads were driving.

  • @keithbarrett4630
    @keithbarrett4630 Před 2 lety +4

    Erin Go Bragh!!

  • @justinnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
    @justinnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Před 2 lety +26

    Good job guys!
    Love ireland from UK

  • @ashk.9563
    @ashk.9563 Před rokem

    when was this filmed?

  • @geraldfitzgibbon7428
    @geraldfitzgibbon7428 Před 2 lety +14

    This video is from the mid 1980s.

  • @tomwotton9
    @tomwotton9 Před 2 lety +1

    Very interesting.
    This would have been when roughly, 1990’s?

  • @walterrankin4965
    @walterrankin4965 Před 2 lety +11

    Republic side of the border can tell by the pot holes

  • @peter2385
    @peter2385 Před měsícem

    The irish army have only lost one man", as if it were nothing. No mention of the large number of Gardai also murdered by the IRA.

  • @ConordoDoyle
    @ConordoDoyle Před 4 měsíci

    The irish army lost" a fair few guns on that patrol.

  • @paddypenman2682
    @paddypenman2682 Před rokem

    Who do you think you are kidding Mr Provo if you think the Free State is done

  • @KR-us9pj
    @KR-us9pj Před 2 lety +6

    Got to say the British Army always looks much smarter, better at marching and parading, more organised and disciplined. By the way... I'm talking about Irish soldiers in Irish regiments of the British Army. I really don't know why. More money, better training, different culture, a longer history? - they always look the part - and more menacing. Interestingly it is also an organisation where Protestants and Catholics, North and South are brothers and together as one. Oh the irony.

    • @karl_thwub
      @karl_thwub Před 2 lety

      Were those Irish regiments ever posted to Northern Ireland?

    • @russell5414
      @russell5414 Před 2 lety

      @@karl_thwub Why would Irish regiments be posted in the UK.

    • @karl_thwub
      @karl_thwub Před 2 lety +3

      @@russell5414 He's talking about Irish Regiments of the British army.

    • @russell5414
      @russell5414 Před 2 lety +1

      @@karl_thwub I don't get it, why did he say those Irish regiments. Obviously Irish regiments of the British army served in Northern Ireland.

    • @karl_thwub
      @karl_thwub Před 2 lety +2

      @@russell5414 That was my question.

  • @ossian11
    @ossian11 Před 2 lety +51

    I wonder what year this was broadcast. Unfortunately the Irish army and Irish police force were as anti-Republican and even anti-Nationalist as the British were a lot of the time.

    • @heritage195
      @heritage195 Před 2 lety +15

      From the kit it was filmed between '87 and ''89/'90. They did a superb job!

    • @imedi
      @imedi Před 2 lety +2

      @@heritage195 Not really

    • @heritage195
      @heritage195 Před 2 lety +12

      @@imedi Not really? Upset you and your friends did they?

    • @imedi
      @imedi Před 2 lety +1

      @@heritage195 no idea what you are on about .
      Who's upset and what friends 🤔

    • @heritage195
      @heritage195 Před 2 lety +7

      @@imedi So what's with the 'Not really'?

  • @timothylyons5686
    @timothylyons5686 Před 2 lety

    The East Germans had no problem.

    • @billkingston4402
      @billkingston4402 Před 2 lety

      Didn't last long

    • @ashk.9563
      @ashk.9563 Před rokem

      i dont get the comparrison with east germany to ulster, its diffrent

    • @timothylyons5686
      @timothylyons5686 Před rokem

      @@ashk.9563 East Germans had a wall, machine gun nests, anti personal mines and snipers in buildings .
      If they didn't want to let you out you didn't get out.
      Imagine if the British had done the same, no sneaking across the border to shoot a tommy then running back to the republic.

    • @ashk.9563
      @ashk.9563 Před rokem

      @@timothylyons5686 eh, britain did do the same?? they had a hard border, and in this video it says that the IDF (Irish army) also patroled the border to stop terrorists

    • @timothylyons5686
      @timothylyons5686 Před rokem

      @@ashk.9563 they didn't do a very good job.
      The top lRA sniper was a former American marine.
      We knew it, the lrish army knew it but never stopped him..

  • @michaelmcmullan2300
    @michaelmcmullan2300 Před 2 lety +7

    They couldn't catch cold

  • @patrickmccarty5488
    @patrickmccarty5488 Před 2 lety

    P

  • @alfredroyal3473
    @alfredroyal3473 Před 2 lety +5

    What feckin army?

  • @GarySmith-dm1iy
    @GarySmith-dm1iy Před 2 lety +4

    Tiocfaidh ar la

  • @jimmych1pper926
    @jimmych1pper926 Před 2 lety +10

    Up the provos

    • @russell5414
      @russell5414 Před 2 lety +1

      I bet it took you a while to come up with that one, boring.

  • @jockstrap
    @jockstrap Před 2 lety +11

    Freestate brits we called them back then

    • @tiernanoneill989
      @tiernanoneill989 Před 2 lety +15

      Shut up

    • @jockstrap
      @jockstrap Před 2 lety +9

      @@tiernanoneill989 No , ya spastic.

    • @You-were-seen-kid
      @You-were-seen-kid Před 2 lety

      And how do you view them now?

    • @jockstrap
      @jockstrap Před 2 lety +5

      @@You-were-seen-kid I have no feelings for them these days, as I never see them anymore. Just felt they were out doing the brits job for them in the 70s and 80s, I lived very close to the border so seen them all the time

    • @aliwakanda7327
      @aliwakanda7327 Před 2 lety +4

      The state was founded by pro-treaty politicians. Flawed from the beginning can’t expect their army to be any better.

  • @sidwislff6184
    @sidwislff6184 Před 2 lety +1

    Ireland is weak compared to the UK. Where is you’re nuclear weapons?

    • @karl_thwub
      @karl_thwub Před 2 lety +5

      Only a man with a very small appendage would say that.

    • @sidwislff6184
      @sidwislff6184 Před 2 lety +1

      @@karl_thwub You have a lack of growth hormone

    • @karl_thwub
      @karl_thwub Před 2 lety +1

      @@sidwislff6184 Better that than what I said.

    • @sidwislff6184
      @sidwislff6184 Před 2 lety

      @@karl_thwub no

    • @karl_thwub
      @karl_thwub Před 2 lety +1

      @@sidwislff6184 Oh yes.

  • @Londubh1
    @Londubh1 Před 2 lety +11

    The southern Irish had no backbone so took the easy way out as usual and supported the English presence in Ireland.

    • @bigbird6039
      @bigbird6039 Před 2 lety +16

      British, the people in Northern Ireland identity as British. Westminster is a British institution and is formed by parliamentary representatives from all four corners of the UK. The English are the only ones that do not have their own parliament. I’m guessing that you may well be an American singling out the English rather than British. I’m from Wales and raise an eyebrow when getting labelled as English rather than British.

    • @jockstrap
      @jockstrap Před 2 lety +7

      @@bigbird6039 Do we? Thanks for that . I am from the North of Ireland and like everyone else I know, raise an eyebrow when getting labelled as British. I’m guessing that you may well be a Welsh man who knows fuck all about Ireland, rather than what you learned in the Regiment or on TV.

    • @bigbird6039
      @bigbird6039 Před 2 lety +3

      @@jockstrap When the majority of you identify as Irish then you can get your country back. Until then keep taking the British brew.

    • @jockstrap
      @jockstrap Před 2 lety +4

      @@bigbird6039 It's spelled "Bru," which is an acronym for "The Bureau of Employment." (I Was only on it for 8 weeks of my life, at £23.50 a week wasn't much use). On the other hand, "brew" is a cup of tea. However, I wouldn't expect a stupid ex-squaddie to know much about anything. It's a pity you didn't go to school in Aberfan, or maybe you did, and the educational day was cut very short for you. LOL...Ya bellend. But I suppose the old Light 50 was useful.

    • @robertomeara3469
      @robertomeara3469 Před 2 lety +5

      Southern Irish??Who are they??What about the Western or Eastern Irish?What were they doing?

  • @IRISHMADMAN-ce5kb
    @IRISHMADMAN-ce5kb Před 2 lety +2

    Trators

    • @MrDK0010
      @MrDK0010 Před 2 lety +7

      Tractors?

    • @Zackislivid
      @Zackislivid Před 2 lety +1

      Trators because they wanted to keep people from car bombing people

    • @United-Nations
      @United-Nations Před 2 lety +1

      @@Zackislivid He meant tractors smh

    • @Zackislivid
      @Zackislivid Před 2 lety +1

      @@United-Nations oh....

  • @cathanmccann1769
    @cathanmccann1769 Před 2 lety +9

    All these men just wanted to be IRA but they were to scared to fight the brits

    • @heritage195
      @heritage195 Před 2 lety +29

      Please do not post rubbish.

    • @You-were-seen-kid
      @You-were-seen-kid Před 2 lety +11

      Absolute bollocks, they just didn't care about the conflict, also maybe take a look at the IRA ceremonial uniforms, a bit ironic that they were British army camouflage with a tricolour pinned onto the shoulder

    • @heritage195
      @heritage195 Před 2 lety +18

      @@You-were-seen-kid They cared deeply about preserving democracy in the Republic and preventing terrorism from whatever source, primarily the main threat which was PIRA, from gaining control!

    • @peterfox5897
      @peterfox5897 Před 2 lety +4

      @@You-were-seen-kid who cares if they purchased their uniforms from a army surplus. It's like saying they shouldn't have used lee Enfields and Vicker machine guns during the war of independence.

    • @You-were-seen-kid
      @You-were-seen-kid Před 2 lety +2

      @@peterfox5897 not really, considering firearms and uniforms are entirely different things, weapons difficult to acquire, would it have been normal for the French resistance to wear ss uniforms as their ceremonial uniforms if they had it?

  • @LovesTheGash
    @LovesTheGash Před 2 lety +4

    Traitors