2021 LT1 Camaro gains 200hp+ with Procharger and Livernois Motorsports!
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- In a world full of positive displacement superchargers, we felt it was time to show just how impressive a centrifugal supercharger is on these cars! With the progressive improvement, the added power is far easier to manage, and makes for an amazing performer, all while driving almost exactly like stock! With just a ati procharger P1X supercharger, and fuel system upgrade, we saw an easy 200HP from this 2021 Camaro. Check out our S650 package on our site for more details, and to schedule your appointment!
I just want to take the time and say thanks 4 all this great info ? I wanted to put a whipple and wasn’t sure what to pick but now I’ve got my info and a pro charger is the way to go now ❤ if you guys were in Canada 🇨🇦 I’d get you to do the work but I’m also a DIY guy my self ! The only thing I’d have to do is pay for the tune ❤
I see this package advertised on your website as adding up to 160hp. Curious where the extra 70hp came from in this video? What pulley/boost are you guys using here? Guessing it’s not the stock pulley that comes with the kit?
probably exhaust maybe?
As he says "package" and watching RaceProvenMotorsports a lot, this is a full heads/cam kit as well. Probably exhaust too.
They may have gone with the best pulley, but that is a horrible choice on its own.
Just as I was browsing your website for a package on my 2022 LT1, sounds like I need to schedule a visit!
Absolutely!
Rip glenn b
Ty Livernois: I was looking for a new shop, and this video convinced me not to use you.
What he doesn't tell you is. Don't put slicks on that car. These LT1's and SS's are known for snapping driveshafts and axles at 600+ rwhp. You'll be fine on street tires, because you won't get enough traction on a launch for it to break anything. And that's not to say anything about Drop-in Pistons and Rods, but I highly recommend it.
When you start pushing 600+ at the wheels, you need to seriously consider swapping to a ZL1 rear end or equivalent if you plan to drag strip the car on slicks or anything with tiger claws for traction in a straight line.
In approaching 8 years of modifying 6th gen Camaros, we've never failed a driveshaft, axles, or differential. Even with mid 9-second runs. Typically wheel hop is what breaks driveline items, so a proper tire and prep work prevent this.
@@LivernoisMotorsports Sadly, I regret now making that comment. But, not because what I said isn't true. But because now that Strictly Performance went under you guys are the only ones in the state with the best upgrade packages. And as I may use you guys to work on my car. I'll concede defeat in this case in hopes I don't get shafted in the future for it. Pun intended.
But just to prove my point look up JLSpeed on CZcams and watch what happened to his C8 rear end on stock tires at stock power levels. Now imagine what would have happened if he used Hoosier slicks. And there are plethora of stories about Gen 6's snapping axles and drive shafts with drag packs on the Camaro 6 forums and on youtube.
Of the people who don't have issues, they are running street tires which never get enough traction to stress the axles and drive shaft anyways. That's why you don't hear about it every day. I know several people running 700-900 rwhp on 6th gens with a stock rear end, but they fully admit they don't run drag packs either.
All I'm saying is people need to be aware of it is all.
Well that just answered my question. Guess I'll be trying to gather up a procharger. 😂
Need something like this for my LT1 🎉😂
Just recently ran pass your page since I purchase lt1 camaro lookig for upgrads. wondering with those horsepower gains 600+ whp? or?... Also, with that tune, you put in that car to make that Horsepower will I have to sacrifice drivability on daily basis? Or can I steal make travel as if it's not there.
These are indeed RWHP results. This customer daily drives the vehicle, and races it when ever the chance arises. Absolutely a proven and safe setup, so long as you respect it and always ensure you're running quality 93+ octane
This package includes KB boost a pump and KB High Side fuel pump upgrades ?
my girlfriend has one of these and she wants me to do the mods for her was thinking about putting a whopple on it will definitely do a procharger now
I'm interested in getting one installed on my 22 Lt1. Would you do it for me?
We do these upgrades in house, yes.
the problem with this is is that the amount of power your putting into it wont handle the width of the tire that comes with a LT1. im not a ford guy or anything but my brother has a 2019 ford GT coyote 3 with nitto active performance 245/40 and he has a hard tim hooking up at 460 horse
not unless you get real drag tires then youll have to swap em out
@@REDCOATKILL3R The stock tires on these are fairly good, but this already had a drag radial on it.
Nittos suck.
Are you guys still doing this tune? I went on your website, and all I saw was a Whipple supercharger install package. I didn't see anything for a Procharger package.
Yes we do, its actually a featured package on our rotating banners.
@LivernoisMotorsports thanks I think I found it however does the pricing here include installation and labor? I noticed on the supercharger and cam upgrade pages it showed the pricing with install.
@@djprincecharles84 The website pricing does indeed include install.
Would running 100 octane race fuel help of hurt this set-up ?
Unleaded race fuel would definitely add safety.
Do you guys do remote tuning? And if you do it 600whp still do able? I know the stock pistons are very weak! .
Honestly, the "stock pistons are weak" isn't really true, to this day, we have never had a stock LT1 piston break on us, and we have been supercharging them since 2014. The issue is, tuners typically run these far leaner than they should, which burns up the piston, and then blame the piston itself as to why. As for remote tuning, on some combos, we do offer supercharged support for an optional upgrade, but not all packages.
Will this void my warranty? Lol
No
Yes, it will. Only parts of it.
only engine and transmission warranty
Aftermarket parts
Using non-factory parts or making modifications to the vehicle can void the warranty. Damage caused by these modifications or parts won't be covered
How does the NA LT1 bottom end handle the extra power? Is the rotating assy the same as in the ZL1 or do I need to swap internals. Also, how does the Tremec and rear end handle the extra power? Im thinking of ordering an LT1 (merely looks. I just dont like the SS, and the ZL1 lost a lot of options literally from yesterday to today...maybe its 2023s coming, so hopefully I can order it how I want, rather than building yet another project lol)
We've never lost a bottom end on one of these, so in our opinion, they're very durable. But they are different than an lt4. This is an auto, but the manual transmission would handle the power as well. But depending on how aggressive you drive, you may want to upgrade the clutch.
@@LivernoisMotorsports Thanks. Its just a hypothetical now for me, and Im bummed that the ZL1 literally lost all its options this week (from one day to another), and now Im turning to an LT1 (because I like its nose better), but I want to know I can do things. Im not an expert on these so I asked. Its not about the most power, moar moar moar, but the feel of it, that old school power feel, so yeah. Still torn on this (because my Dodge dealer is getting a Scatpack with the shaker package in a stick...and thats hard to say no to lol)
@@LivernoisMotorsports I’m seriously considering a d1x and stage 2 ic
My car is fbo with an lt2 right now. We would cap it off at 650 wheel with some lt4 fueling for safety and e. Do you see an issue running this set up? I may be happy and never have to open the engine unless I blow it up. What are your thoughts? Would I be beating most h/c setups for roll racing? Lol
what size pully that Lt1 was running to get 608whp ?
Unfortunately I don't have the pulley size, but it was 7#.
If doing a pro charger how much gain in whp would a ported intake net me?
Honestly, almost 0. Since it's already being forced in, the intake isn't a restriction.
Dam ❤need more specs I’d love to do this same set up on my 2022 Camaro LT1 ❤ omg can’t believe this if you can help with all the part numbers I’ll get on mine with that same set up ❤❤❤❤thank you for this ❤❤❤❤
We do have this featured on our website as an installed package.
@@LivernoisMotorsports i couldn’t find it
@@michaelpackulak2833 www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP0117341/2016-2022-chevrolet-camaro-s650-performance-package
Thanks for sharing the details and reasoning behind it. I have a C7 LT1 with manual in a GS. Would you choose the same approach, for a non drag racing car? Will be all street and not much if any track.
Ultimately it depends on the intended usage, but we likely would do this for the same reasons.
Well THIS isn't a "drag racing" car lol. This would be just about the same application/reason you'd do on your C7 man
What about the A10 trans with the afm/dod?? I hear the kit to remove that is 3500 parts itself. add sc and labor and its 20k!!!. Can slap 800 rwhp on newer 5.0 for 11k.
There's plenty of options for even more power, and yes, adding more power would add more cost.
Best shop ever
How much boost were you running on this car?
this is a standard system, so 7#
i ordered a 2023 convertable 3lt and was thinking about procharging it that makes 500 hp. but i dont think the damn thing would hookup
Thats why you need sticky tires or a full dragpack genius
And that's lb-ft of torque, not ft-lbs. There is a difference and one can go into the other but not vice versa.
If someone already has e85 and a lT2 intake are you still able to tune it and put the procharger on there?
Unfortunately you'd have to completely upgrade the fuel system and add aux port injectors to keep e85 use with a supercharger.
@@LivernoisMotorsports gotcha, id only run 93 if thats easier anyways. For these numbers id wanna do it
what wheels did this car have i love them
Unfortunately we do not know
But the LT1 can only handle around 600-640 rwhp, then it needs bullt internals with boost. Just do NA, fbo with h/c & E, you'll have similar power, 60+ lbs less weight.
We have several 700HP+ builds on stock internals. The problem is, most tuners run these overly lean because of the false belief that you can since it's direct injected. We've been building gen5 LT combinations since 2013, and we haven't lost a single stock engine for anything power related, no matter the power we've pushed them to.
In fact, the only gen5 engine we've ever had fail for any of our customers was an early build 2014 Corvette due to the infamous "machining error" GM had on the first run of engines.
@LivernoisMotorsports alot if em blowing pistons and rods over 7psi. 6 to 6.5 is the most I've seen safe, which is around 570 rwhp. I noticed a rather low rwhp stock number too. Usually in the 385 to 408 range.
@@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq That's definitely a tuning issue. We've run well over 10# on these.
@@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq lol with bad tunes they do
Can you throw a hellcat blower on an lt1??
While anything is technically possible, the amount of work necessary makes no sense when there's already kits made for this.
Keeps comparing it to a ZL1, but a ZL1 has more than just horsepower
Which doesn't amount to a hill of beans when you encounter one at a red light, or at a drag strip ;-)
Gotta close that hood and get the air intake away from the heat, not closer to it, geez. While moving air flow with push heat near front out the back of the hood and the vents. So with ooen hood, deduct 30 hp.
The car made 7hp more with the hood closed than open, but the median results were within 1-2hp. Or, less than the error in the Dyno from one run to another.
We keep the hood open for safety and visual inspections during the tuning process. But all results are verified with hoods closed.
So, no, it wouldn't have lost 30hp with the hood closed. Because it didn't.
Still love this ! ❤ I am going to get it now ❤! I’m going. To order the ZL1 fuel pump and order P1X pro charger ❤ and I love the idea of beating the brakes off the ZL1 and for Half the cost lol 😂 my LT1 looks and is a ZL1 ! But it’s gonna be faster 😂 that’s tha shit 😂lol ❤ ! My 2022 Camaro LT1 has mats skin leather interior plus phastek splitter and side skirts ❤ and the LED side marker lights ❤ and I’m gonna get the hood satin blacked wrapped ❤ with slotted and drilled rotors from DBC brakes which is now btw on my car !❤ it’s sexy ❤ and it’s wild cherry 🍒 tiny coat ! I’ve spent a few dollars on it so far ! And I’m not done ! Gonna get the light up door sill plates and the dash cluster from the 2SS for a fraction. Of the cost ! So my Camaro will look like and SS and beat the doors off a ZL1 Camaro ❤ she’s a work in progress ! But when I’m done ! It will perform better then a SS and faster then the ZL1 ❤😂 and for bang for the buck fantastic 😂😂😂lmao
Drop-in pistons?
All stock, we've never had an LT1 engine break with our tuning.
@@LivernoisMotorsports you sure i wouldnt trust the internals at 600hp
@@anthonyh2540 In almost 9 years of doing LT work, we've quite literally never had one fail (except an early 2014 Corvette that spun a rod bearing, but that was a well documented machining issue back then), the issue is so many tuners run these lean because of the misconception that DI engines are capable of running leaner than normal. This is why they crack pistons. But we've never had that issue.
Putting the CAI right where all the heat will gather, not a smart idea. Also not legit due to "open hood".
Well, you can write the manufacturer who designed it. But there's plenty of 8 and 9 second procharged Camaros that seem to do just fine with that location.
As for hood open, all power gains are validated both open and closed. Don't believe what the Internet says. Almost no vehicle changes power in any significant way hood open or closed. But, as a Dyno operator, not being able to have a clear line of sight for any potential issues while running a power sweep is a surefire way to continue running a vehicle that should have been shut off for safety purposes.