If you're curious, check out our earlier episode on John W. Campbell here, a notable magazine editor in the history of science fiction: czcams.com/video/Ctpvd2VvukQ/video.html
Yeah bois, got our melange appies before we go ferda on some wierding way leg day. Gotta get in that pracky if you're going to roll with muad'dib bois: ferda.
How, as an Oregonian, did I not know that Frank Herbert found his inspiration on our coastline! And that he's from Tacoma!? Love the books even more now.
My favorite part of the whole book(s) is when a chief of the fremen spat on Duke Leto’s conference table. At first it is taken as an insult, but after Duncan Idaho is able to speak. He spits on the table as well, and explains to the duke that it was a sign of respect. Since moisture is so precious, even spitting is something you’d rather not do, and so among the fremen, to present some of your body’s moisture to someone else is a sign of allegiance and respect. Frank Herbert was perhaps the greatest world builder of all time, possibly outclassing even Tolkien.
Dude, everything about the Fremen culture felt so realistic and nuanced. Also, when Paul cries for the man he just killed, and the Fremen are shocked. "He gives water to the dead?"
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
Dune was actually the first really big Sci-Fi classic that I read. It was back in middle school. I was browsing the library, and noticed a book that shared a name with a Windows DOS game that I had played when I was really young. And what's funny, is that Dune was also the first book where I encountered the concept of dividing a physical book into, uh, ‘sub-books’. Yeah. I was really confused. Book > Books > Chapters > Pages, Paragraphs, and words. Super weird. So I laughed while watching this episode, because it jogged my memory of that confusion, as I learned the cause for the books within books in this case.
@@omega4446 "Think you of the fact that a deaf person cannot hear. Then, what deafness may we not all possess? What senses do we lack that we cannot see and cannot hear another world all around us?"
im a long time fan of the books and an aspiring writer myself. getting to hear this back story literally brought tears to my eyes. I've read nearly everything he's ever written and to know how hard and long he had to struggle to be published gives me alot of hope. Thank you for this series and im looking forward to the other episodes.
Dune is my ALL TIME favorite Dune book. Being called as one of the best scifi novels is an understatement, it is THE BEST novel. Frank Herbert is a genius, he has a unique way of writing profound paradoxical concepts in clear and simple ways. For example “My father once told me that respect for truth comes close to being the basis for all morality. 'Something cannot emerge from nothing,' he said. This is profound thinking if you understand how unstable 'the truth' can be.”. It makes you consider and think about what is right and what is wrong, that there is no constant virtue and morality is a concept bounded by time and culture. What is taboo now could be virtuous in another age and culture and vise versa. If you're interested in Dune but you're busy with work and life consider getting the audiobook, you can listen to it while commuting back and forth from work.
Eh, it was one part of video that sucked. Not only it had ZERO connection with what was being said, it was repeated twice as non-sequitur filler for some reason. I like SW, but it nearly made me hit dislike button.
For folks in the comments saying that they have to read Dune, we got some great news. Over on our twitch channel, we're hosting Book Club every Tuesday. We're in the middle of Dune right now and we have a great mix of people who have read it before, and folks who have never touched it! If you want to read along and discuss the importance of spice, plans, and puns, come join in on Tuesday nights at 5:15pm PST at twitch.tv/ExtraCredits - A
Personnal fun fact : in my town, in France, near the Atlantic, we have a nice big beach. In the 90's when I was a kid, we went to the beach, and it was flat, from the parcking lot to the sea. They built a nice fence for the dune to form and the sand to accumulate. 20 years later, I took a look to the beach, and what we have now is a bunch of dunes, hills and small pockets of grass and bushes. This beach is our little part of Arrakis. ^^
I'm so glad you guys are doing this. I received "Dune" as a gift when I was 9 years old, and while I had enjoyed reading before, it was the first book I ever really, truly loved. It ended up being the main reason I became such an avid reader and consumer of science fiction.
Although I couldn't get into Dune while I was reading it, I still have a lot of respect for its influence. Heck, I love Warframe, and the lore in that game is heavily inspired by the kind of world Frank Herbert wrote.
"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."
I tried reading it but it starts horribly for me. I need a character to be invested in and if the super natural is involved at least a basic explanation soon before or after it's involved. I didn't get either trying to read the first Dune book, 10 pages in and it just threw so much meaningless crap names at me that held no meaning while barely giving me anything. I hated it and stopped soon after.
dude stumbled onto this channel and I've watch most of the history stuff and absolutely loved every episode now you do a video about my favorite book of all time! All of you are doing amazing work cant wait to see more
nice to hear about this cause despite being a huge science fiction fan I know very little of Dune and have never read it I think it is finally time for that to change
Goodness, I love Dune. I know many people don't like the movie's but I love them and because of them I got into the book series at a young age. Who can forget the "Litany against fear".
This is it. I've waited and waited. And it is finally here! Getting notifications DO pay off! PS: Jesus are you guys a bunch of teasers, hinting at Dune multiple times in previous episodes.
More like build an audience. Herbert obviously never stopped marketing and reached the right influencers after tirelessly working on it. Seth Godin would be proud.
Sterling Lanier also wrote Hiero's Journey which was an influence on both D&D and Gamma World with a passage that basically describes leveling up before, you know...*it existed*.
Ah, I needed this! Thanks to the EC crew and Matt is really finding his stride as narrator. As a longtime Dune and FH fan this hit the spot on a frigid February morning. Keep up the good work!
I played it even before I knew about the book Dune. I was young, didnt understand much but I had great time playing it. Good old Westwood game. Fun fact: First Dune RTS game actually competed with the first Warcraft game in popularity and playability. Dune has its place in the gaming history.
I need more of this! This is your best cycle so far, covering my beloved books (and im sure very impprtant books for lots of people). And you are doing it in great way!
I wasn’t aware that “Dune World” lost (or even was nominated.) The novel “Dune” tied for a Hugo win in 66. Having the same story nominated twice has to be rare.
This is a fascinating introduction to the origin of the Dune series! I am fully engaged and happy to come back to this channel as more videos are released!
Been watching this channel for a really long time, since you first released the Punic Wars series, and when I saw you'd be doing sci-fi, this was the one thing I really hoped you'd eventually cover. Cheers, lads n lasses, and all hail to mighty Muad'Dib!
Today my wife got me a nice little hunk of metal that has an inscription: "Behind, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." -Gurney Halleck It's about right.
The meaning, or what is Haiku? If it’s the later, Google it, if it’s the former, I guess it’s a man lament over the place he live, and how omnipresently oppressive, harsh, and rough it’s around him, setting the tone for the entire story It’s the entire world, and it hate him, just as much as he hate it.
Sir, it was in the video at the exact moment he says that it started as a haiku. It reads I do not like sand It’s coarse, ,rough, irritating It get everywhere.
No great jump chronologically? The last third of the book skipped over years! His sister was born and grew up, he had a kid off-camera that was never seen, all between chapters.
Arthur C. Clarke: 2001: A Space Odyssey 2010: Odyssey Two 3001: The Final Odyssey But yeah, "skips a few years", through a small part of one human lifetime....
Exurb1a made a "shit history of Dune" which compelled me to buy the book on Audiobook. It is honestly amazing and worth a listen because it is a great listen while you play sci-fi games
The Analog was my introduction to sci-fi through my father's subscription when I was younger. Then his old collection of the Foundation series and Dune.
If you're curious, check out our earlier episode on John W. Campbell here, a notable magazine editor in the history of science fiction: czcams.com/video/Ctpvd2VvukQ/video.html
Extra Credits ok
Notifications gang
BruhItz JustinMcNair Your a day late....
FATHER THE SLEEPER HAS AWAKENED!
3:05 you know "arroyo" is simply "creek" in spanish?
Who would have thought the author of Dune got inspired by dunes.
Lawrence Tider Top 11 Anime Twists
Dunes lead to Dune?! Gasp!!
death wish So did dune, fruit trees in the southern caves. The fremen grew their food.
Oh my Dune i never thought of that.
In Oregon, of all places
"He who controls the spice, controls the universe/ world" -16th century Spain and Portugal
Laughs in Dutch
Laltluangliana Sailop Dutch? *Laughs in Britain*
@@Graham226 British got rich by cash crops and taxes from india not by selling spices.
Most spices comes from indonesia, of which colonialised by dutch
"He who commands the sea, has command of everything" -Themistocles, Admiral.
Also Herbert was in the US Navy during WW2, so I can imagine him getting really bored of water....
PavarottiAardvark can relate.
Seemingly not that bored, considering the Pandora Sequence series.
The spice must flow bois
HE WHO CONTROLS THE SPICE CONTROLS THE UNIVERSE!
All I'm asking for is a small suitcase of Spice.
Well, Old Spice do?
Yeah bois, got our melange appies before we go ferda on some wierding way leg day. Gotta get in that pracky if you're going to roll with muad'dib bois: ferda.
He who can destroy a Pumpkin Spice Chai, controls a Pumpkin Spice Chai
Walk without rhythm and you won't attract the worms.
Don't wear a Holtzman shield either. It'll create the same problem.
Activate Christopher Walken dance mode.
Do a barrel roll?
Listen to the sound of my voice
So...get drunk?
How, as an Oregonian, did I not know that Frank Herbert found his inspiration on our coastline! And that he's from Tacoma!? Love the books even more now.
ditto, live a hour from Florence, seen the dunes many time, never put that together.
Right!? Fellow Oregonian here as well (I even live on the Coast haha), and it makes me love the books even more now
Born and raised in Coos Bay and I had no idea either. I miss those dunes :(
Jesse Harlan I grew up in north bend the dunes are so nice to hike through, it’s cool to see other people from there
Herbert and LeGuin are two of my favorite authors and they were both Oregonians. There's something in the water up there I'm sure.
“Arrakis is not my destination.” She said.
“Arrakis is the destination of everyone” he replied.
My favorite part of the whole book(s) is when a chief of the fremen spat on Duke Leto’s conference table. At first it is taken as an insult, but after Duncan Idaho is able to speak. He spits on the table as well, and explains to the duke that it was a sign of respect. Since moisture is so precious, even spitting is something you’d rather not do, and so among the fremen, to present some of your body’s moisture to someone else is a sign of allegiance and respect. Frank Herbert was perhaps the greatest world builder of all time, possibly outclassing even Tolkien.
Dude, everything about the Fremen culture felt so realistic and nuanced. Also, when Paul cries for the man he just killed, and the Fremen are shocked. "He gives water to the dead?"
Damn maybe I should have read the book before I watched the new movie.
@@lombardo141 This scene was in the movie too tho
Hahahaha not even close to Tolkien, shut up.
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain
Dune was actually the first really big Sci-Fi classic that I read. It was back in middle school. I was browsing the library, and noticed a book that shared a name with a Windows DOS game that I had played when I was really young.
And what's funny, is that Dune was also the first book where I encountered the concept of dividing a physical book into, uh, ‘sub-books’. Yeah. I was really confused. Book > Books > Chapters > Pages, Paragraphs, and words. Super weird. So I laughed while watching this episode, because it jogged my memory of that confusion, as I learned the cause for the books within books in this case.
Sterling Lanier: A true unsung hero of scifi fandom!
Indeed what a humble dude.
I wonder if the publisher feels bad about firing him given the novel's place in literature today?
Fun Fact: Frank Herbert once denied Iron Maiden from using “Dune” as a song title.
Waffles The Wookie that would have been pretty damn cool
Interesting
That can't be right. Copyright laws explicitely state you can't copyright a title.
@@lisaenglert3202 If you want to hear it, it's called "To Tame A Land"
To tame a land from Piece of Mind i presume?
"Continue your training, and keep trusting Yueh implicitly." lol
(laughs awkwardly)
@@omega4446 agreed
@@omega4446 "Think you of the fact that a deaf person cannot hear. Then, what deafness may we not all possess? What senses do we lack that we cannot see and cannot hear another world all around us?"
Do you think that he does not know what he has won?
I love Yueh,,,
“And that day dawned when Arrakis lay at the hub of the universe with the wheel poised to spin.” -Princess Irulan
im a long time fan of the books and an aspiring writer myself. getting to hear this back story literally brought tears to my eyes. I've read nearly everything he's ever written and to know how hard and long he had to struggle to be published gives me alot of hope. Thank you for this series and im looking forward to the other episodes.
Same. Hearing that freaking DUNE was rejected constantly really drives the point home.
"He who controls the spice controls the universe!"
What? Someone was going to say it sooner or later.
Dune: *exists*
40k: IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE
Dune is my ALL TIME favorite Dune book. Being called as one of the best scifi novels is an understatement, it is THE BEST novel. Frank Herbert is a genius, he has a unique way of writing profound paradoxical concepts in clear and simple ways.
For example “My father once told me that respect for truth comes close to being the basis for all morality. 'Something cannot emerge from nothing,' he said. This is profound thinking if you understand how unstable 'the truth' can be.”.
It makes you consider and think about what is right and what is wrong, that there is no constant virtue and morality is a concept bounded by time and culture. What is taboo now could be virtuous in another age and culture and vise versa. If you're interested in Dune but you're busy with work and life consider getting the audiobook, you can listen to it while commuting back and forth from work.
Can we just appreciate the prequel meme in this? Thanks for the laugh Extra Credits.
You mean the Golden Path at 2:27 ?
Eh, it was one part of video that sucked. Not only it had ZERO connection with what was being said, it was repeated twice as non-sequitur filler for some reason. I like SW, but it nearly made me hit dislike button.
"I hate sand. It's coarse and rough, and it gets everywhere."
Worst pick-up line ever
@@KuK137 Dune was a major inspiration for George Lucas. It was one of the reasons there is the planet Tatooine.
For folks in the comments saying that they have to read Dune, we got some great news. Over on our twitch channel, we're hosting Book Club every Tuesday. We're in the middle of Dune right now and we have a great mix of people who have read it before, and folks who have never touched it! If you want to read along and discuss the importance of spice, plans, and puns, come join in on Tuesday nights at 5:15pm PST at twitch.tv/ExtraCredits - A
Personnal fun fact : in my town, in France, near the Atlantic, we have a nice big beach. In the 90's when I was a kid, we went to the beach, and it was flat, from the parcking lot to the sea. They built a nice fence for the dune to form and the sand to accumulate. 20 years later, I took a look to the beach, and what we have now is a bunch of dunes, hills and small pockets of grass and bushes. This beach is our little part of Arrakis. ^^
God created Arrakis to train the faithful.
You mean the southern Oregon Coast. Lol
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
@@Gigas0101 i actually do the same...
2:39 TIL the "I don't like sand" line can be phrased as a haiku.
I'm so glad you guys are doing this. I received "Dune" as a gift when I was 9 years old, and while I had enjoyed reading before, it was the first book I ever really, truly loved. It ended up being the main reason I became such an avid reader and consumer of science fiction.
Dune, Arrakis, Desert Planet.
Source of the Geriatrics Spice Melange
Although I couldn't get into Dune while I was reading it, I still have a lot of respect for its influence. Heck, I love Warframe, and the lore in that game is heavily inspired by the kind of world Frank Herbert wrote.
This is really good timing because I started reading Dune last week.
Maye you want to stay away, then, lest there be unmarked spoilers?
Me too! XD
"what could go wrong?"
When the face of the Traitor is finally revealed
The fate of the Atreides will already be sealed... LOL
Oh, yeah. That.
"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."
Dune is an amazing piece of work that was extremely underrated at its birth
Dune is amazing, period.
book , movies and card game :)
I tried reading it but it starts horribly for me. I need a character to be invested in and if the super natural is involved at least a basic explanation soon before or after it's involved.
I didn't get either trying to read the first Dune book, 10 pages in and it just threw so much meaningless crap names at me that held no meaning while barely giving me anything. I hated it and stopped soon after.
@@mme.veronica735 Agreed. I managed to read the whole thing but by the end of it I still didn't understand what the Bene Gesserit were doing and why.
Zonofv 1 yeah same
halfrocanadian v why?
one of the truly Great Space Operas been waiting for this for a long time😎
I legit read that as "Great Spice Operas"
Not wrong
@@sophiatalksmusic3588 Ha
The Saga of Dune is far from over.
dude stumbled onto this channel and I've watch most of the history stuff and absolutely loved every episode now you do a video about my favorite book of all time! All of you are doing amazing work cant wait to see more
I love dune so much. Read it 16 times and I still get new meaning from it every time
As someone who lives on the Oregon Coast, I can attest to the haunting beauty of the dunes.
YES! WE CAN'T WAIT FOR VILLENEUVE'S "DUNE"!
"Yueh, Yueh, Yueh! A million deaths for Yueh!"
What do you mean we don’t know if they ever got to meet!?!? How could they not? You’re killing me Extra. Love these videos! Thank you!
I have waited for this episode since this series started!
Long Live
The Fighters
of Muad'dib
The way frank looked at the Dunes, reminds me of how George would get inspiration for ASOIF by standing on Hadrian's Wall.
As one of my favorite books of all time, Im extremely excited for your series on Dune!!
I heard Dune and came as fast as I could.
TMI, Dude
Go to behind the dune for that
I didn't even have to try I heard dune and immediately came
I'm sure Slaanesh was pleased.
"He who controls the spice! Controls the Universe!"
Also what went wrong?
The same thing it always does. Greed
I mean prequels
Or god emperor
nice to hear about this cause despite being a huge science fiction fan I know very little of Dune and have never read it I think it is finally time for that to change
dune got the hugo award but it tied with "this immortal" by roger zelazny and didn't lose to "here gather the stars" by clifford d simak.
WWSD... What Would Stilgar Do
Some sort of lightweight book series?
Dodge rivalry duels with his fellow tribesmen?
Goodness, I love Dune. I know many people don't like the movie's but I love them and because of them I got into the book series at a young age. Who can forget the "Litany against fear".
The spice, and the episodes, must flow! Well done, one of my favorite channels!
I love this series so much! Can't wait to hear what you have to say about it
Favorite book of all time.
I spit on your comment fremen style :)
Same.
agreed
This is the best Sci fi book period. So many gems from this story, the spice must flow and of course the litany gains fear
Let's see how many people come here after the movie
Came here after watching the masterpiece in IMAX :D
This is it. I've waited and waited. And it is finally here! Getting notifications DO pay off!
PS: Jesus are you guys a bunch of teasers, hinting at Dune multiple times in previous episodes.
Dune is so amazing. It blew my mind 40 years after it's time, and will probably continue to do so for others in decades to come
The core message here is that if your work is good enough, it will get there, even if the experts don't agree.
More like build an audience. Herbert obviously never stopped marketing and reached the right influencers after tirelessly working on it. Seth Godin would be proud.
Sterling Lanier also wrote Hiero's Journey which was an influence on both D&D and Gamma World with a passage that basically describes leveling up before, you know...*it existed*.
Been looking forward to these dune videos
2:30 Perfect. Thank you Extra Credits.
So glad this video was made. I read the novels back when i was 16 yrs old in 1996. I was fscinated by the universe Frank H. created.
Muab Dib.
Fear is the mind killer.
One is my favorite character.
The other is my mantra during stressful moments.
Thank you, Frank Herbert.
Ah, I needed this! Thanks to the EC crew and Matt is really finding his stride as narrator. As a longtime Dune and FH fan this hit the spot on a frigid February morning. Keep up the good work!
My favorite part of Dune is when Paul finally reunites with Gurney and institutes the new changes in Fremen society
One of the greatest narratives of the 20th Century.
There are no words for how much I absolutely adore Dune (and its sequels)
I'm glad you post. Your videos are well made, and filled to the brim with knowledge. Thank you for this service, I hope to be donating shortly. *MUAH*
Having read dune, I'm glad you all made this.
FINALLY!!! BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE YOU STARTED THIS SERIES!!!
Bruh were are my dune 2000 players I played when was very young but I loved it
I played it even before I knew about the book Dune. I was young, didnt understand much but I had great time playing it. Good old Westwood game.
Fun fact:
First Dune RTS game actually competed with the first Warcraft game in popularity and playability.
Dune has its place in the gaming history.
yeaaa mass tanks lez go
@@LocalHeretic-ck1kd same
Oh yeah, Dune 2000 is actually pretty good. Not as good as Dune 2, but it had some fun missions.
I need more of this! This is your best cycle so far, covering my beloved books (and im sure very impprtant books for lots of people). And you are doing it in great way!
THE SPICE MUST FLOW
i have waited so long for this...
I wasn’t aware that “Dune World” lost (or even was nominated.) The novel “Dune” tied for a Hugo win in 66. Having the same story nominated twice has to be rare.
I've only ever read the first Dune book, but I'm glad I did. It was really, really good.
You should read the other five, they are good too. 😊
Ok, this is epic
This is a fascinating introduction to the origin of the Dune series!
I am fully engaged and happy to come back to this channel as more videos are released!
I've been waiting a very long time for this!
Been watching this channel for a really long time, since you first released the Punic Wars series, and when I saw you'd be doing sci-fi, this was the one thing I really hoped you'd eventually cover. Cheers, lads n lasses, and all hail to mighty Muad'Dib!
You did it! May Shai'Hulud bless your water!
It's so great to learn more about this classic series! Can't wait for more
My favorite book series along with Pat Rothfuss Kingkiller Chronicles
Today my wife got me a nice little hunk of metal that has an inscription:
"Behind, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work."
-Gurney Halleck
It's about right.
Absolutely fantastic content. I can't believe they're doing Dune! I love Extra Credits so much.
I wonder what the Haiku was.
Was wondering the same.
The meaning, or what is Haiku? If it’s the later, Google it, if it’s the former, I guess it’s a man lament over the place he live, and how omnipresently oppressive, harsh, and rough it’s around him, setting the tone for the entire story
It’s the entire world, and it hate him, just as much as he hate it.
Sir, it was in the video at the exact moment he says that it started as a haiku.
It reads
I do not like sand
It’s coarse, ,rough, irritating
It get everywhere.
I think it's the one that they showed.
@@rparl I doubt it. That was a Star Wars meme.
Wait was that haiku used in Star Wars? I'm pretty sure Anakin says that exact line in Episode II.
No great jump chronologically? The last third of the book skipped over years! His sister was born and grew up, he had a kid off-camera that was never seen, all between chapters.
I don't think that part existed yet. Remember the first book was originally a trilogy.
EC means that the book that we know as "Dune" (the first of the series) were originally three books.
Nick Clinite cool spoiler
IKR!!
Arthur C. Clarke:
2001: A Space Odyssey
2010: Odyssey Two
3001: The Final Odyssey
But yeah, "skips a few years", through a small part of one human lifetime....
I think I speak for almost everyone when I say that we are super excited for this
Exurb1a made a "shit history of Dune" which compelled me to buy the book on Audiobook.
It is honestly amazing and worth a listen because it is a great listen while you play sci-fi games
Seeing this about my fav book ever ❤️😍❤️
...wonder how many great works of literature we'll never read, because publishers think: "...nobody will read it, we will earn no money...!" :-(
The Analog was my introduction to sci-fi through my father's subscription when I was younger. Then his old collection of the Foundation series and Dune.
Who else is here for the movie?
My
Energy's
Tremendously
High
Came here after the new movie trailer!
Your caricature of Herbert is pretty much my mind’s eye image of Liet Kynes.
Didn't know he'd had to struggle so much, it's such a beautiful body of work... Hope Villeneuve does it justice
John W. Campbell I never expected him.