Do You Really Need a Cordless Router ?
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Do you really need a cordless router? In My opinion yes. As a Woodworker/cabinet maker I feel a cordless router should be your fourth cordless tool purchase. The first three being a Cordless drill, an impact driver, and a circular saw. After that the cordless router is my most used cordless tool in the shop. Having multiple brands can add to the clutter and confusion in your shop so if possible try to purchase a router that is already on your battery platform. The only reason I bought the rigid cordless router a little more than a year ago is the Milwaukee was not yet available.
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I'm used to larger, corded routers czcams.com/users/postUgkxfQ5_mgwq6PcudJvAH25t-I4D-3cTPz4z so this was a different experience for me. Basically, this is an incredibly sweet machine, fits well in the hand, etc. It has slightly less power than I'm used to, but that's understandable. Maneuvering freehand takes some practice. These days, it's especially nice to be able to avoid power cords. This is above the level of a hobbyist but below a pro level.
I really like my cordless hand router. Quick and easy to set up for those small cuts. To those that complain about battery costs, I have 5 batteries and 2 chargers that I have had for over 3 years and still running strong. Easy to switch to a fresh battery if needed. The only tool I switched back to corded was my orbital sander because they chew up battery life. Can't wait to see your finished project. Thanks Jon!
Just picked a corner beading bit through the link, Jon. Love your channel!
Good information Jon, sure have to agree that cords are a problem when using a router. Thanks for sharing with us. Fred.
Just purchased the same tool, but haven't used it quite yet. This video was very helpful, thank you Jon!
Full marks for an excellent no nonsense and practical review. Agree 100% on the freedom gained by not having a cord - although I use my DeWalt with a vacuum hose attached, it [the vacuum hose] never seems to get in the way like a power cord does!
I also have to agree with your comments re choosing Red, Yellow or Teal. They all make good tools but if any of us decided we wanted just the best of the most used tools in the manufacturers range we would end up owning 3 different battery / charging systems.
Never thought about getting a cordless router before. thanks for sharing
Thanks for the review, Jon. I do all my work inside my shop now a days therefore I have no battery tools.
Thanks for the video I enjoy seeing it.👌
Thanks for the info Jon! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
I still use my old corded Porter Cable trim router. Funny I don’t notice the cord, but I’m old (didn’t notice a pot hole today either!). I like the new adjustment features etc on new little routers, but I’m keeping my old corded trim router. But nice run down, love your channel.
I love mine. The edge guide locking nut is difficult to tighten. I bought a metric bolt to use instead so I can tighten with a wrench. I love the instant bit stop when I turn it off. A friend and fellow Habitat buddy bought the Milwaukee after he saw mine. We do all of the cabinet laminate work at HFH. Same thing with the 23ga pin nailer. I never use the dust shield since it defeats the purpose of a cordless router.
Love that bead detail
I love mine! used it today actually :)
I use dust extraction with all of my woodworking so cordless isn't really important. Good presentation Jon,thanks!
Thanks for sharing. I took advantage of the Dewalt offer with two free 5.0 amp batteries. Just couldn't turn that down.
The answer is 'yes'. No more cord end catching on the end of a work piece and causing the router to tip, no more extension cords to trip over. That's a nice package deal with the dust shroud and edge guide. I went with a Dewalt mainly because I have Dewalt tools, but it didn't include the attachments that come with the Milwaukee.
Great video jon
Yes, I just got a makita cordless. Just $20 more than corded and I already have plenty of batteries. It’s power is amazing. Cordless circ next
I am a big Milwaukee tool fan, user great instructional video, keep it up.
I just went with the Dewalt and really enjoying it.
I normally throw the cord over my shoulder when I use my Makita corded router.
Great review however it would also have been interesting to see it used with the dust extraction hooked up. I put what seems to be an excessively large base plate made of perspex on my trim router. Best thing I ever did as it gives a lot more control over the tool.
Also, being cordless, is it now a hand tool? Cheer John
Jolie petite machine merci pour la démonstration à bientôt salut Jeannot 🛠😉
Looks like a great little trim router Jon! Thanks for sharing the video with us!💖👌👍😎JP
Thanks JP 👍
Your very welcome Jon! Have a great weekend!😎
Clear and concise review. Wish more reviews were like that. Take care.
Thank You.
Thank you
Smart's designs.
I have the same one. Absolutely love it. Went from a corded DEWALT to this one. First, it’s a better router to begin with. Second, it’s cordless!
Yes, sometimes o still hook up a vac to it, so I’m still tethered in those cases but (a) I don’t always hook up the vac, particularly for a quick trim here or there, and grabbing it of the wall with the trim bit already installed, making my cut or two, and putting it back is MASSIVELY convenient. Second, even with the vac hooked up, it’s still far, far, far more convenient isn’t than a vac AND a cord.
As for the “too expensive” crowd, for me it’s all about time vs money. I’m a hobbyist and don’t get near,y the time in the shop I’d like. I want to do every single thing I can to make sure that the limited time I have is spent doing things, not chasing cords, outlets, breakers when they trip, etc.
I used my dust collection system and a dry vac. The dust collection on this thing is almost 100%. There are a few tools that I use that have nearly 100% collection of dust and the dust shroud on this Milwaukee compact router is superb. Do you agree?
@@robertknowles3677 That is good to hear about good dust collection since Jon didn’t show it in action but did show as accessory.
Hi could you tell me if this router will do worktop joints and bolts considering buying the milwaukee but only if it does the above would appreciate any feedback
I need one. I don't know why. I just do. Some day I might want use one and I'll have it.
My brother just purchased a cordless router. Mine are corded. I really do like the “no cord” benefit. Corded seems to always be problematic, even when I plop it onto my shoulder. I feel like my cords have a mind of their own... looking for things to snag onto just to bug me!
Wny do you say you will probably be using a particular battery platform for 3 - 5 years? I have been using the Ryobi 18v sysjigsawstem since 2006 and just added batteries to my range of tools over the years. I also have a Makita platform for some tools. We dont have to stick to just one brand as specific tools vary in excellence eg Makita cordless jigsaws and routers tend to be brand leaders. Good video in all..
I see you using the festool kapex now. I’ll take the bosch if u dont need it 😂. Anyway like ur videos👍
Great video as always! Still contemplating a cordless and which battery platform to stick with. It would be nice to see how the vac attachment performs. But I also understand that vac hose puts a lot of weight on the tool possibly causing an issue.
No, I don't. The battery is too heavy and the center of gravity is too high. With a hose from a vacuum cleaner, the "cordless" loses its meaning ;)
Which battery is too heavy? The batteries I use on the Milwaukee are slim and not heavy at all and don't effect the center of gravity one bit. Not sure why you bring vacuum into the equation because even with a corded trim router, you have the electric cord that weighs on the router can get snagged and you still have the weight of the vacuum hose regardless of it being corded or cordless. Sounds like you bought corded and have not had a need to get another trim router therefore you have probably never tried a cordless trim router. Maybe you tried the Makita cordless. Their batteries are heavier and I have not personally tried the Makita cordless. I have used the cordless milwaukee and with the slim 2.0 and 3.0 high demand batteries, no center of gravity issue at all.
One of the most fun and satisfying tool I aquired, and used, over the decades is a beading plane. It requires a mastery of skills to sharpen, maintain, and use effectively.
I have a dozen routers, and three small trimmer/routers.
Would I buy a cordless router?
Another toy...... or a needed tool?
What do you think?
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Jon the link to the router bit is for a 1/2 inch shank not the 1/4 inch that the router takes. Great video and I love mine.
Thanks Dave! I appreciate the heads up I just fixed it 👍👍
I like that it comes with a wide plate - I think if I had one, it would go on, and mostly stay on. Not sure that I'd use the dust extraction - I find that seeing the bit is usually important when I'm using a trim router, and that adapter would restrict that too much for me. But then I'm glad to see it, I do like dust extraction!
The dust shroud is clear and does not impede the view at all. I made a video this past weekend showing how well the dust collection works and I can see clear as day the bit.
Yup. Use my cordless router maybe five to one the corded one.
Cordless is the way to go for sure, corded is better for heavier jobs. These brushless tools is far better than the old stock, they all work great!
I have 2 router's, 1 is cordless trim router other is always mounted to my table.
If you're in the shop, you should have a nice overhead plug, it makes a huge difference.
Cordless router is nice, but in my opinion, not necessary in the shop. In the field, as many cordless tools, all of the same battery, is a time and money saver.
Excelente herramienta milwaukee.
it's maybe a little bit more convinient, but you need to hook up the shop vac anyway. the only benefit would be if you work outside than it's a nice thing to have.
I am not sure why you would think "the only benefit would be if you work outside than it's a nice thing to have". Did you think of other reasons why it would be a benefit to have besides when you would use it? If I want to be inside or outside, let's say inside, if I want to do a quick round over on a piece of trim I just brad nailed to my workbench I am building and used a cordless brad nailer at that, I love the idea of quickly grabbing the cordless trim router off the shelf and swap the bit if I need to and bam, I have a round over on the edge of a piece of trim, inside the shop. I don't have to get out the heavy Bosch case and take out the beast mode router, swap the bit then get the over head extension cord and wire up the router. For the quick jobs anywhere inside or out, the cordless router, any cordless router is great to have.
Robert Knowles the point is not that a cordless router is not more convenient than a corded router. It’s that you need to do some dust collection anyway, at least when you’re inside. And then the extra hassle of an added cord, together with the hose, doesn’t mean a lot. I never take the dangerous dust for granted (even outside for that matter) so for me a cordless tool that produces a lot of dust is meaningless. That’s why the only cordless tool I own is a drill.
That’s not to say that cordless is not convenient: it is. The only significant drawback of a cordless tool is that, when a shop vac is attached, there’s no automatic activation of the shop vac.
That’s why I choose corded tools if they produce dust. Also, I can invest the extra money a cordless tool would cost, in other things.
Nice review though, @Jon!
Jon, you didn't comment on using the vacuum attachment. I don't think I've ever seen you use a router with that attachment, no doubt for the same reason you value being able to avoid cord conflicts. Routers are mess-producing tools...but that just seems to be the price you pay for the flexibility of a hand-held router. Side note: Barber shops not open yet, I see ;)
Every time I use this router the depth moves up and down how do I secure it from doing that?
I honestly use my Ryobi cordless router 80% more often than my full size one that lives in my table.
Can I use my Milwaukee 12 V battery on it?
*Starting to change out all my corded tools to cordless and the **MyBest.Tools** are excellent.I just recently used it to router hinges for a 4 sets of doors with no issues and still plenty of power left (used a 3ah battery).Great visibility at the cutting area also.*
Yep
Hi Everyone, Do you really need a cordless router? In My opinion yes. As a Woodworker/cabinet maker I feel a cordless router should be your fourth cordless tool purchase. The first three being a Cordless drill, an impact driver, and a circular saw. After that the cordless router is my most used cordless tool in the shop. Having multiple brands can add to the clutter and confusion in your shop so if possible try to purchase a router that is already on your battery platform. The only reason I bought the rigid cordless router a little more than a year ago is the Milwaukee was not yet available.
Thanks for watching and be good, Jon
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Nice informative video , thanks.is the router bit u are using in the video 1/4" Shank?
Jon Peters - Longview Woodworking nice video as always 👍 For me orbital sander is 4th, Palm router 5th..😀 Thank you.
@@michelsoares562 Palm routers normally only accept 1/4inch bits. So I guess that is a 1/4 inch.
@@BOBBY-et9xb Makita accept 1/4 and 3/8
@@michelsoares562 Thank You. You right. Sorry.
I can see the value in a cordless router when you are away from the shop. When in the shop you need dust collection. Vacuum hose & cord,no big deal.
YES!!!
Funny.
Headed from cordless. Had enough of being a slave to batteries and the thievery pricing
Agree. Right when the jobsite has the power cut---- and I am in the middle of an installation--- my battery goes dead. 😁
Thank God for my handplane, scraper, and beading hand tool.
My security is my selection of corded tools and a small generator.
Recently I did find a new in-the-case old school Makita drill with a new battery and charger--- $17 at the thrift store. I
I am an experienced, high end custom installer. I took the drill with me to San Francisco a couple weeks ago during the covid shut-down. I am now classified as an "essential worker". The drill represents to the younger, less skilled but heavily "cordless" 😁 carpenters--- that I must be a master, or a hack! There is no middle any longer.
Masters have old, old school tools.
Agreed. Just a personal opinion but batteries are like computer operating systems. Gonna change every few years to a point that old ones become obsolete. Add the in the cost, the relative low usage hours on a charge, and diminishing power during use. I still use the same electric supply I always have. No biggie to me. Plus cost quite a bit less.
William Smith you must be a Dewalt guy or a 2.0 amp hour guy. Buy bigger batteries and get a Milwaukee.
How do you like it compared to the Ridgid you had previously? I have the Makita cordless and like it way more than I thought I would.
I like both but the Milwaukee is more powerful.
I liked mine but now it loses it's depth settings.
no worries i have 5 battery platformes :))
Well I never really thought about it. A router without a cord. I’ll admit it would be handy I mean no cord. But then what would I need a router for.
How does the Milwaukee router compare to the Rigid one you have been using?
Yes I was thinking the same thing.
Kya price hai sir
Circle jig... Multiple passes... No cord twist. SOLD!
Hey John, what happened to the Rigid cordless router you used to run?
I’m using both... I might just keep the ridged set up with a straight bit for cutting plugs.
Would it do solid surface such as Corian?
Corian yes ... something like granite no
The answer is no you don't.
Hi john im from the philippines never had the chance to own those kind of tools. Wish you could spare me a piece so i could use it for my home renovation. Hoping so much
Slightly OT but is speed-control not surplus to requirements in a 1/4" router ? 🤔
You ain't gonna be running very large diameter bits in it ?? 😏🙄
But apart from that... as long as they run on your battery platform, always handy to have one.... and not too spendy I presume ?
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Hi, I know you like your battery platform and rightly so. However, DE Walt! here in the UK they are really bad and I would not support them or subject that anyone else should look at them. It might just be the UK market but a once top of the range tool is now below the cheap Chinese knock offs, as that is saying a lot.
Do you need a router? if yes, do you need cordless? if yes, the answer is, yes you do.
Too top heavy for accuracy and safety. Especially when working on narrow stock. I’ll stick with corded routers. Might be useful in a mini router table, but even then, why would you? A cord won’t be a problem with a table.
Where did you see, hear that it is top heavy? I have used this same router many times and there are no issues with it being top heavy or unsafe. I would rather use this cordless on narrow stock then my heavy ass Bosch corded router. I do use a router table as well that has a 3.5 porter cable router in it.
Great insight Jon!