A Guide To Rubato - Manipulating Time Effectively in Music
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 12. 02. 2020
- In this episode, we discuss a highly subjective and controversial subject - the concept of rubato. In simplified terms, rubato can be thought of as the pushing and pulling of time in music to enhance the beauty of what you're playing. We discuss various amounts of rubato, certain pianists that use more or less rubato, and how rubato should vary between musical eras, such as the different amounts used in the baroque, classical, and romantic eras.
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Using rubato in playing romantic music has a mysterious and almost elusive quality. One can get carried away and afterwards think, whoops that was too much. Obviously, this is me the amateur pianist saying this. I have listened to a lot of recordings, including some by the French pianist, Samson Francois, who played Chopin beautifully at his best. I have also listened to great teachers explain how to use it. The concept, for me, is broken down, in words and demonstration at the keyboard, by Josh. His approach is as easy as itâs ever going to get to the world of student pianists and even some concert level students. Thank you Josh, listening to you, it seems to me that you have learned from a lot of teachers and distilled the essence of rubato.
This is a common question I receive from students, and a highly subjective topic among teachers. I hope this gets you off to a good start at finding your own voice with rubato! Good luck in your practice sessions
The piece is Waltz in A Minor (posth.) in case anyone was wondering.
Thank you!
thank you!
Rubato is one of the best ways of using sound to express what one feels within when they play the piano, not least when one is playing a piece from the romantic period. Practically, there can never be a set rule as to how it should be done - it's more or less about how there can never be a rule to cover how everyone or every pianist must feel. Remember, it shouldn't be any mathematical analysis but, invariably, an artistic decision - as mentioned in the video. Thanks Josh!! Just want to let you know your videos have been of immense help to a Sierra Leonean pianist who's been following you from Sierra Leone.
Sometimes I wish you did lives on CZcams. I always feel like I want some more after the end of your videos. Iâm an absolute beginner but get a lot of knowledge from your videos. Iâm just glad youâre around to share some piano love with us. God bless.
matheus alves Thanks Matheus. Iâll keep more videos coming :)
I agree!!
Can u make a video about how to get the chords in the left hand so quiet and even?
Henrik Varwick sure
Yes pleaseeeeeee!!!!!!
I think rubato is not only subjective, but it also depends on the piece being played.
camerodemetri well said
I have also noticed a lot of people steer into two different sides of loving or hating rubato.
I do agree there are some pieces which should be played evenly.
Thank you for this too-rare exploration of rubato! One can only find balance by exploring both sides of balance. The metronome gives a false sense of safety that skews most to the âtoo littleâ side, since people are quick to ridicule any effort on the âtoo muchâ side. But one does not find artistry by staying on the safe side⊠My teacher grew up before recordings and would often tell how much more individual artists were before recordings standardized expectations.
Thanks Josh. đ
Perfect timing to be watching this video. Will finally delve deeply into different styles of rubato. About time haha
Cris Piano Glad you enjoyed it :)
This video popped up in my feed and itâs perfect because iâm working on Clair de Lune and iâm overwhelmed by how many renditions are out there!
Just polishing up Chopinâs Contredanse in Gb and this video couldnât have come at a better time!!! Thank you so much Josh.
To maybe overgeneralise about Perahia, maybe he is less exaggerated with rubato as he is a well known and respected interpreter of Bach whereas Trifonov and Babyan are more romantic. But this is not to say that they couldnât play well at the opposite ends (theyâre obviously amongst the greatest ever), just more of a general tendency
Peter Hontaru - Piano Progress Thanks Peter! Agreed about those pianists :)
Thank you!
Thank you so much Josh! You demonstrated this long-debated important subject with such clarity, truly helpful.
Isola Thank you Isola!
1:32 ---- Two years later ----- I totally agree with you about that. That can definitely happen - not making up that time. But it is absolutely workable under the appropriate 'context'. That does work indeed. You really have an excellent understanding about that! Totally agree with your comment about 'subjective'. When applied appropriately and in good style -- intelligently etc --- rubato certainly improves the feel or liveliness of certain kinds of music. Such an excellent video. Nice one Josh.
Bruh not only are you a good pianist... but you know your math really well! Damn you're talented
Once again, a great encouraging teaching. Thank you so much!!!
Thank you so much for doing these types of videos and just know that thousands of us really appreciate what you do to help us become better pianists and musicians! Love from Canada
funnily i found the second intro in an allegretto tempo with only slight rubato at the end very nice...sometimes you can hear the phrase better when the rubato is there, but just slightly.... especially when the dynamics are done very delicately
To me Rubato makes piano music that much more interesting, whether to make it more intense or very calming and soothing like Debussy
Thank you Josh. I found that very helpful.
I think that Dynamics and a exclusive maintain of the tempo is a narrow limits of a well approach.
Listening to and learning from Cortot, Friedman, etc. by learning a piece they recorded as a "case study" can be helpful imo
Excellent, interesting presentationđđ. Thank you Josh.
Should beginners stick to the music score perfectly for time manipulation first before tending to approach emotional rubato?
Trane Won yes. I always like students to be experimenting with rubato, but always BEGIN with a baseline even tempo. Often, when rubato is introduced from day 1 with an inexperienced player, they will then continue to bend more and more and it will sound very unnatural. When you start from an even place, then make a conscious choice of where you want to take time or push ahead, things will sound more natural and organic
Thx Josh! This really helps.
Thanks
Great class as always! Thanks Josh!
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Rubato is like Vibrato. Donât put vibrato on every single Note.
And it is some how a very personal style of every pianist.
I have a question!! You touched on this a little when you were talking about how the left hand is a stabilizer... I'm coming to the piano as my second instrument, and my first is the violin. The biggest difference I'm encountering between the instruments is how many voices and accompaniments the piano can handle!! Violin, you have like maybe a teeny bit of counterpoint here and there, but it's mostly one voice. How do you handle rubato in multiple voices? To my ears, some pianists almost seem to play out of phase with themselves, with one voice moving around another voice, and it's so beautiful, but so confusing to understand how to approach and structure such a thing, much less how to practice and control it!
I always thought rubato came from stolen in italian..
As if you steal time now and then shaping the pulse to your like. Love your videos josh keep them up they are very helpful
LA CROQUETA RECORDS yes, it means to steal: as in taking time from notes and giving it to other notes.
Great discussion on this more controversial topic. I read once that Chopin had written that rubato is allowing the right hand freedom from the metronome, but that the left hand retains adherence to it. He likened it to opera singers who would take liberties with time, somewhat independent of the accompaniment. I'd like to know if you think of it this way.
Also, as Chopin was known to be a big fan of Bach, do you think that the playing with rubato in all his music has become more overdone in recent years than it should be? I'm thinking for example his sonata's in particular, where perhaps he did not intend rubato at all, but all modern recordings (except Gould's) play with a lot of rubato throughout.
That's nice to know. I will implement rubato to my right hand now
firmly in the "I love that" camp
I don't care how little it sounds like a metronome, metronomes sound awful why would I want to sound like that
Hello my name is Ezequiel and I am professional guitarrist. I wanted to ask for tips related to playing at orquestra , I have performed the Les Miserables piece and since it was my first experience playing I struggled a lot with all the tempo assignments and following the director. Thank you, greetings from Argentina
Violeta is the name of this girl in my Spanish class
It is a romanian name. It is inspired by a violet flower :)
So did I understand correctly that rubato doesn't need to be 1:1 equal. Like a 3 minute piece with no rubato doesn't need to be exactly 3 min played with rubato?
Can you recommend any CZcams channels or websites that regularly post videos of recent performances by top pianists?
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Tempo rubato was from steal time to bring back strict time. Tempo rubato was not easy to grasp. Play piano in strict tempo and strict time and strict beats and strict rhythm to use metronome are so easy to grasp. Tempo rubato's meaning was stolen time (speeding up for beats and rhythm and tempo) to slowing down of the tempo and rhythm and beats equally return back to strict tempo and strict time. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempo_rubato
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I thought that too, lol.
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Music is not a computer science where you evenly redistribute rubato according to some âscience.â If you do, it sounds cheesy and unnatural. Have your students listen to the different recordings of European and Russian pianists or better yet study Chopinâs music in general and what he was after. Rubato is a point of speech and poetic feel. What you are saying is good but itâs second hand knowledge and students who have no idea what itâs about or what Chopinâs music is about will not understand and will generalize everything.
As always in piano videos 95% blabla 5% playing
Yes! I love that you chose Chopin. Loved your video and all your videos in general! I enjoy watching you and Danae Dörken - two of my favourite piano youtubers! czcams.com/video/3TnwHdy1qww/video.html
Is that your hair?