IS ECODIESEL A GOOD ENGINE
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- IS ECODIESEL A GOOD ENGINE many ask this question if the diesel fuel engine offered in the ram 1500 pickup truck and jeep grand cherokee is a good offering or if the 3.0L V6 diesel engine is more trouble than the good fuel economy and mpg are worth should you get a eco diesel engine in your truck watch this video to find out if its reliable
#ecodiesel #ram #jeep
Your the only guy that I've seen that doesn't bash the ecodiesel thank-you for that. I have the JGC ecodiesel and love it, fantastic mileage and pulling capabilities. That alone is worth having the ecodiesel. Thanks for the videos. Now subscribed.
Try adding a GDE (Green Diesel Engineering) tune. Mileage goes up, turbo lag goes away. Accelerator responds like a gas driven truck. After 90,000 miles mine drives like new. You can run your finger inside of the exhaust pipe outlet and there isn't a spec of black/carbon. Love this truck!
Love my 2016 EcoDiesel, 150K and never an issue, runs as strong as when it had 40K on it. Going to easily get 300K miles out it.
Like mine I bet you do very little city driving! I need to go 30 miles on the highway to get to a town. Perfect as day 1
I bought a used 2016 Ecodiesel that has over 220 000KM and so far I really like this truck it has tons of power and is very very comfortable compared to my 5 cylinder Canyon. The regen is a bit annoying at times and wish I could have some idea when it's going to happen, other than that it's awesome.
Like I said back when you were looking at buying this truck. From what I read and talking to a Diesel mechanic at the dealer that confirmed it. Delete all the crap off it and it a pretty good motor.
You can trace back a ton of issues on modern diesel engines (not just oil contamination) to EGR crap.
EGR on an engine is like eating your own poop because you want to eat less food. No one would do that, but well, emissions standards :).
I bought my 2015 Outdoorsman Crew cab 4x4 Ecodiesel brand new in April of that year. It has the 3.55 ratio differentials and the 44-45 transfer case so no 4wd auto. I've had all recalls performed except the last flash to run off camshaft signal if crank signal is lost. I have just under 118,000 miles. I've done 10,000 mile interval oil changes myself since new. I don't use the Rotella T6 oil. Good oil samples every oil change. The only engine issues I've had were a bad EGR cooler, and the throttle valve went out. All covered under powertrain and AEM warranties respectively. I've done some towing and I've taken it on several off road trips in the Colorado mountains. As far as I'm concerned it has been a great truck.
Exact same story here zayoutlaw. 2015 SLT ecodiesel. I use the rotella T6. All my own work , oil fuel and air filters. Minimal towing but daily commuter on a mountain highway. ( Rural town ). All updates done with EGR recall done. It’s been flawless. 165,000km. ( Canada ). Use it a bit every year for firewood. I use the full interval time, but I’m thinking of doing a shorter interval for longevity. Committed to driving it long term. At this point it’s cheaper to replace the engine if needed then buy a new 2500hd. And trucks are hard to find right now. Plus mines paid fir , no debt no payment. Gonna just stay tight on the maintenance and enjoy it.
@@kodiak2053 Well said. The best truck is the paid off one.
I just got a 2021 1500 Ecodiesel with 10k miles. 5k miles later - no problems. Great mileage.Took it CA to TX and back: 35mpg. Moving to Europe next year and taking it with me.
I have a 16 limited . Amsoil signature series and Amsoil bypass filter! No issues change oil 7500-9k and oil analysis. Soot plugging up the crank oil passages has been the issue. Keep oil clean and do oil analysis!
They fixed the EGR problem with the GEN three engines. You now get a low pressure EGR with those engines and it’s after the DPF with no soot going back into the engine. If you have the earlier engine, your best choice is to change the oil every 3000 miles and use the best oil from redline oil. Also consider doing a BG crank case cleaning every once in a while for the bearings not to get choked by too much soot.
For those Driving 10 k miles... remember oil is cheap, an engine isn't. I learned that the hard way with my 2012 Sport. When you see a bill for a Big Engine replacement, like these ones, and suddenly you see a lot of zeros you quickly realize the reality of things
I have a 2012 hemi I change oil when I’m bored 110k lifters still good fingers crossed
I was able to Test drive one of the 3rd gen Ecos, 2022 model Ram while living in Pismo Beach. I was getting 33mpg at 70 going through SLO. There is a fella who transports with a 2015 and he took his apart at 425.000 miles to replace the timing set up. Of course the Green Diesel Engineering Tune saves these engines from failure.
Good Engine or bad wouldn't it being on the 3rd give the answer? Lol.. ill stick with the hemi
It's constantly in for new engines. I'm on a private Mopar Tech page. It's junk.
Straight junk I bought one used with 109,000 miles and only had it a year. It’s been in the shop 3 times and going on to the 4th
I had a 2015 Grand Cherokee eco diesel and didn’t have a problem with it until after the FCA software update. Fuel mileage went down and the update increased turbo lag. Fun fact, GM and VM Motori designed the eco diesel for European Cadillac use.
its also used in other European car platforms as well as other agricultural applications too.
That's crazy....in a Cadillac??? Like a sedan? SUV??
@@mo-215 As cleverly pointed out by Ward's Auto, the new diesel Ram 1500 full-size pickup truck uses the same 3.0-liter turbodiesel V-6 engine that's fitted to both the Maserati Quattroporte and the new 2014 Maserati Ghibli sedans--in Europe.
@@martinslimpucis4646 And neither know for dependability. If you can afford them, you can also afford to fix them.
The emissions equipment, specifically the egr is probably the worst thing for the motor recirculating all that junk back into it. Its a good motor, and I think a lot of different failure scenarios are probably related to egr failures, and other things, as well as the weak crank shaft which has been noted over the years. Its best to run it, and keep the rpms's up and keep up with the maintenance schedule as best as possible.
Yes 5000 mi intervals! AND never pull loads below 1800 rpm lugging. It's hard on the bearings if you do.
30,000 miles in one year. No problems yet. Still learning about it all. I appreciate the recommendations to change oil more frequently. Wiico.
The older generation Ecodiesels are not reflective of the new generation replacement powerplant. The new generation has pretty much eliminated the older issues. I have a 2020 with zero issues..........ever. Very satisfied with it. 26.2mpg around town and around 30 at 70mph on the highway..4wd as well.
I used to own a 2015 with LOts of issues. Traded that one on the new one.
On your old one you can get the flash done and that pretty much takes care of the known issues it had.
if you remove the emmissions stuff and are tight with maintenance they are good engine
You can get the 2 1/2 gallon DEF at Walmart for $7.89 each I have a Ram 3.0 2018 eco-diesel that I have 156,000 and it’s still a great truck
how much and every how many miles do you put the DEF
And just like that, the intro is back!
like any engine. regular maintenance slightly before its due with quality product and it will run for a long time. I have 80K on mine and its never given me a problem.
I have 2015 big horn ecodiesel I love it no issues as to yet I agree that the 10000 oil drain interval little bit to long to go I do 7500 and use the shell rotella T6 full synthetic I also add hot shots stiction eliminator great little diesel
Although I am thinking about trading it in for a gas engine truck. I have around 8500 miles on this 2017 ECO Diesel. I like the sound and the drive but fear the issues with this truck cause I use it for taking my 26 yr old son to doctors appointments in it. I made a bad choice in buying a diesel for around the city but we do like the truck.
It’s good engine you don’t go wrong long as it’s maintained properly regularly 😊
Wrong. Mine was maintained perfectly. Socal truck. Very little towing. Engine blew up at 68k.
After seeing that one engine torn down from south Africa and the bottom end damage and clogged journal bearing oil passages, I think the biggest issues is the oil change intervals being 10k. With the egr emissions set up, the oil simply gets dirty sooner than later and needs to come out far sooner than 10k. I hate canister filters because they aren't protected by a metal cage and so when they get clogged, they start to collapse. If the filter collapses, then it will bypass so now you're getting dirty contaminated oil going down and slowing clogging up those journal bearing passages. When I buy one of these eco-diesels early next year, I'm going to install a remote industrial size spin on filter and bypass that canister B.S. and change the oil and filter every 5k.
exactly.
My wife has a 2018 grand Cherokee trail hawk eco-diesel. Has been great so far decent power and awesome mileage. granted it only has 20,000 miles on it.
Great video! I have a 2018 with 44k now. Oil changes around 6500. Started towing my 1995 26’ fifth wheel with a goose ball. I have 3.92 gears and got 11.5 mpg last weekend going to Tucson (Duct Tape Drags). I added the Banks Derringer, Pedal Monster, and iDash gage. I watched my EGT’s and at 1500 degrees Banks backs out completely and stock backs off until temps go down. Albuquerque to Tucson was 450 miles each way. Lost power on hill’s and noticed temps rising. Oil temp reached 260 a couple of times. Mines due for recall of oil cooler.
It’s been five months as I write this, how’s it going with the truck?
Put the banks kit on mine too & a Magnaflow DPF back exhaust. Banks was best money I've ever spent... Magnaflow exhaust was a novelty period. the Magnaflow showed up after I had a few beers one night and was reminiscing about being cool and in my 20s lol
That's hilarious about the exhaust, I'm kinda to that point also!@@JOShaugh87
I knew a DPF back system would do nothing other than look and sound a little cooler. I had a Duramax all chipped out years ago and she really roared...this is as close as I'll get to that, can't be too loud now I've got little kids. The MF system is about 5% louder than stock, had to watch recordings to notice the faintest tone difference... its still cool though hahahha@@daviddavis9720
I've owned a 2020 Ram 1500 Limited for almost 4 full years now, 75K miles driven and here is what I think... I really like it, especially after putting the Banks Pedal thing and Derringer on it (put on at 60k). The truck drives like it has a Hemi now... without the kit the truck drove and accelerated like a tractor. The throttle response was borderline dangerous, now she gets up and goes with authority... Only regret with the Banks is not doing it sooner.
The only other gripe I have is how damn expensive it is to service, every time I would go to the dealer it would be $600 for an oil change, even going to a good shop now where the owner and I are friend's it is still crazy.
Do I like it overall... yes. Would I buy another diesel in a half ton? No. I'd rather have the gas version. On that same token I would NEVER buy a gas 3/4 ton truck
That truck just looks sharp. Sad to hear about the engine problems 🥲
Tried to make it look unique for a Laramie eco. 💪
@@BoostedMotorsports job well done 👍
Sounds like my hemi 🤣
Sweet looking truck with all the custom grill an bumpers chrome delete etc I really like it one of kind ecodiesel for looks.. I think your reasoning behind your maintenance scheduling is bang on .. I’d do the same an hope for the best .. 👍 that’s the only thing with diesels .. all the ones ived owned … they like to leak oil here an there more so then a gas engine .. anyway I enjoyed the video John.. cheers 🍻
3rd gen eco diesel is an awesome engine!
I have one. It’s good! It’s very sweet!
My 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Eco-Diesel has 72K miles on it and I am the 2nd owner but I have all the records the original owner was anal and so am I love the Vehicle!
Come on don't sugar coat the oil contamination. We all know it's cause the EGR puts soot back into the intake and then into the engine. No emissions equipment equals better fuel economy, better power, and a healthier longer-lasting diesel.
If you ever have to seal or reseal an oil pan or cover go to Honda and buy some Honda Bond. Either that or what Ford used and still sales to seal the oil pans on the 7.3 diesels. Looks like Honda bond but comes in a small caulk tube. Nothing batter than those two.
That truck sounds great. I would say tow till the wheels fall off. Lol
You think this truck is a good purchase in the new 2022 with the 3.0 diesel
The first few years had a problem with the cam gears spinning on the cams because they weren’t keyed. If it started running bad or just stopped running altogether it was probably cam gear slippage. You had to get new cams with gears on them because there was no way to clock them.
Your super close to 100k subs, keep the awesome videos coming.
Oh snaps 😏👉🏼 the OG intro is back 🙌 I think the truck is good but what bugs me its a brand new crate engine 🤦🏽♂️ #BSTEDMTRSPRTS #100ksoon
Very polarizing engine, some love it some hate it. Would a EGR delete help?
Keep the EGR cleaned n you should not have oil contamination
Trying to decide between the Dodge or Checrolet 3.0 diesels.
One problem I have with the Chevrolet is plugging it in every night if the temperature is below 32 degrees. Owned a Dodge cummins and it always started even at 15 below without heating engine. Will the Ram start on cold mornings without plugging it in?
My '16 starts right up, without being plugged in. Lowest has been -23°F in Missoula, Montana. Use a good diesel fuel anti-freeze starting in early Fall through April. Hit the key fob, cranks and starts right up, high idles till warm. ☆
I'm an ecodiesel owner and mine has had every problem from the lawsuit it could have. I just found out about the lawsuit and I have seen metal flakes in my oil filter which is an indication that the crank shaft bearings are going and noone is talking about it from the FCA
The robidux swap meet in Riverside has the 5 gal box rotella oil.. for around $70..
My 2018 was a great truck right up until I spun a main bearing towing my 7,000# travel trailer up a 4% grade at 55 mph. Barely made it onto the shoulder. and waited 45 minutes for AAA. It was 34 degrees outside. I always worried about this happening in the back of my mind. Has 62,218 miles on it. Never reset trip B. Over those 62,000 miles I have averaged 24.9 mpg. Two days later I bought a 2,500.
What ratio/rear end is your truck equipped with?
diesel,and harleys,allways oil leak, i have seen,an rode an heard..take dakota to the track,or explain now,o your moving soon etc,i remember, good luck with it all,im here only for dakota,but thats just me...an i will check in daily hoping theres a reason to....
Thanks for the information. Where do you purchase your fuel filter?
Is it possible to stuff one of these in a Dakota? Same model the hellcat swap is in. Thanks!
SRT 10 need more love more 3rd gen mods 🙏
Do you noticed a lot of turbo whine when towing the trailer and going uphill or getting into the throttle to maintain speed?
18 wheelers are louder than that thing and I should know I work on them
My sons 1500 eco diesel suffered catastrophic engine failure at 81k miles. All oil changes done ahead of schedule. From our experience, this engine could possibly be one of the worst.
is there any vibration on new engine or shudder? when idling!!
I been doing oil changes on my 2018 ecodiesel every 10,000kms
I see 👀 you still have the stock air box keep the air box but change the air tube you will hear the turbocharger
What did you change the air tube with? I would love to hear my turbo!
@@daviddavis9720 change the intake pipe from the air box to the intake the factory one is really restricted
Have a 18 mine gets 20 mpg sucks change oil every 5k and put a new filter every 2500
My 2015 eco diesel has 183k miles
Deleted or stock?
@@ericpena3426 completely stock surprisingly it’s made it. Hopefully a few things will fall off soon🤭
Would you try an oil additive to your eco diesel?
Awesome J《☆》2nd or 3rd engine in 117k miles = Not good🖖😁🍗◇¿.🌴
You would have thought dodge would have had all the bugs worked out with this engine . I would be broken hearted with 3 engines already. I will stick with the hemi.
Is it a V6 or inline-6?
My truck had major problems with the regen system always said 90 to 100%, when it said 100%, it always said I had to go to the dealer and then it would go into limp mode and I would have to unhook the battery for the day and then it would go back to where I could drive it and it got so frustrating, and the dealer wanted $5,000 to attempt to fix it. I found a friend who knew an ecodiesel mechanic and hetook the endeavor on. He took the EGR off of it, reprogrammed the computer put a cold air intake on it We had to change the turbo put a brand new intake manifold on it because it was so clogged up but a straight pipe for it from the turbo back to the muffler The truck has a 40 horsepower tune on it, it doesnt shoot out any black smoke, when you nail it down it will put out a little bit of smoke, but not like what you see these other big coal burners doing. I run blue molly oil in it now, I have a fast lift pump on it. The truck runs great on flat roads where I drive distance is on I get over 32 to 34 miles per gallon at 70 mph, in the city driving I get 22 to 24 miles per gallon. My tune does not have a transmission tune to it it's just the engine tune none of my service lights come on anymore. And none of that stuff on my truck was warrantied by the dealer The truck had less than 100,000 mi on it it's a 2014 the regen was so messed up it had to be replaced and they wanted too much money when we pulled the intake manifold off at its plastic it was totally dunked up with silt had to be replaced you can buy new ones on eBay for 250 bucks I was going to go with a cast one that's 800 bucks but I was told by my mechanic it will make the engine too hot The turbo was was burnt up we put a new turbo on it I was lucky I had one of those aftermarket warranties it covered almost everything I went to tuner Depot and got the pipe that goes from the bottom of the turbo to my muffler. You can really hear the turbo now when you're in the truck going along when it goes on it's nothing like a big Cummings but it's only a 3 l diesel and I'm getting 30 miles per gallon so good luck all, oh by the way the truck is much happier with the stuff off of it it wasn't designed in Italy to have all this on it, if you saw what the EGR cooler and the plastic intake manifold look like inside it's ridiculous there were totally clogged The regen underneath the truck was so clogged it had to be replaced, I didn't want to spend five grand and the dealer said it could take 6 months to fix all this stuff because where I live there's only two dealers within 50 miles and nobody gets parts, and the mechanics do not want to work on these trucks they call in sick from what I understand,
Where can i find those fender flares?
whenever people or companies 1/2 ass anything it just doesn't work!!
Do you run Lucas synthetic with the oil? I'm thinking about doing that when I lease one of these. I have always put Lucas in all of my trucks including my 92 Cummins.
How do you like using the Lucas synthetic additive?
@@kanaletumlinson certainly keeps oil a lot cleaner in my 12 valve which is a very uncommon thing for diesel engines.
3 engines only 135k? 😢
What did you do about the oil leak. I got the gen 3 ecodiesel and have a leak in the same location and had the oil filter housing replaced but still leaking. Curious how it got fixed or is this something we just live with
Clean out the egr that may solve the oil leak
You had me at 3rd engine.
diesel is noisy but rides good in big truck..noisy...to me..i never understood diesels,i understand hellkota if it ever comes back...why are you ignoring what the people want..
Hey bro by any chance did you keep the old brackets from the old bumper before u switched to the sport I'm putting the rebel bumper on my sport it says I need brackets and fog light brackets wondered what your looked like if it's what I need I'll buy them if u wanna sell them just need to see in a picture thanks bro love your videos
Wonder If you can get it in a standard cab short bed 🤔
eco was not offered in a short bed config, but you could get reg cab and long bed.
Wow, so yes it’s a great engine until it has catastrophic failure. Ouch! Possible contamination from the EGR system? Also issues with oil cooler failure pretty common. Check your reservoir for chocolate milk look. Also DEF and Catalytic converter issues. So if you have to take this to the shop every time you have an issue that could get pretty expensive. If you buy one used, get a good extended warranty!
Also, IF this eco diesel fails, would you try an engine swap? Say Cummins 4BTA? Or Cummins QSB4.5?
Can it even fit?
@@ericpena3426 if the 6bt and It’s bigger brother fit. The smaller 4bt and qsb will fit
Ironic that this was posted the day after my dads 2014 eco diesel Jeep caught fire in the engine bay
ecodiesel is a great engine until they slap that egr on that girl. Then she is the worst diesel of all time. Pipe starts at the ass and pumps to the mouth. Mines at 227000 and going strong with a new turbo.
Ram should have gone with the little Cummins that Nissan has in their pickups.
that motor is junk, they only sold them for 2 years because of so many crank failures. It was originally being designed for the ram 1500, but was scrapped.
They would have but Nissan scooped the bid before dodge could grab it. Also those get alot of hate but was mainly due to communication issues because Nissan was to lazy to make good communication with cummins
"Is the Ecodiesel a good engine?"
"This is the third motor in this truck!"
Well that was easy.
what about the hellkota an drag racing it an correct driveshaft,whats happened to this whole deal..finish one thing,an then go to another maybe,or blend them at least,im gone.......
It is not. There, I saved you some time.
No it’s not. It sucks due to the egr system gettin plugged up
Sounds like everyone is lookin for the positives on these rams after taking it in the chocolate starfish....
Im on my 3rd ram and mine is stretched out.
Im done.
24 valve Cummins swap lol
If its made by Fiat no its not.
terrible engines. mine died at 109 000 km 2018 Ram with oil changes every 10 000 km.
Hahaha my 2012 ram 3500 5.7 gets 18 city 20 hiway