Isomorphisms (Abstract Algebra)

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  • An isomorphism is a homomorphism that is also a bijection. If there is an isomorphism between two groups G and H, then they are equivalent and we say they are "isomorphic." The groups may look different from each other, but their group properties will be the same.
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Komentáře • 165

  • @Socratica
    @Socratica  Před 4 lety +13

    On our website, we have an in-depth example of an isomorphism as a "Bonus Feature": www.socratica.com/subject/abstract-algebra

    • @huttarl
      @huttarl Před rokem

      I went there and found the PDF you're talking about under "Isomorphisms for Groups." But when I clicked on the "BUY" button, nothing happened.

  • @woahitsben
    @woahitsben Před 5 lety +60

    the quality of this video is incredible, the audio, the visuals, the pacing, the material, and the delivery

  • @Kaje_
    @Kaje_ Před 2 lety +16

    The best intuitive description of an "ismorphism" is to think in "analogies". Yep, an analogy itself is a good analogy for an isomorphism, you take some relationship and you change the context while maintaining that relationship in order to elucidate some property of the relationship. Of course, this is a very informal way to describe this. But it's a good intuitive insight.

    • @sr-kt9ml
      @sr-kt9ml Před 3 měsíci

      Reading GEB right now, this helps

    • @alejrandom6592
      @alejrandom6592 Před 25 dny

      You might be stepping intl category theory

  • @Socratica
    @Socratica  Před 9 lety +94

    Our latest abstract algebra video is on *isomorphisms*! These are functions which tell you when two groups are identical. This is key, because the same group can appear in different places in wildly different guises.
    (You can also have isomorphisms between rings, fields, modules, etc. We'll cover those in separate videos.)
    #LearnMore

    • @alishacortes2398
      @alishacortes2398 Před 9 lety +2

      Socratica Will you be adding a video on automorphisms?

    • @SilverArro
      @SilverArro Před 8 lety +2

      +Alisha Cortes Automorphisms are just special cases of isomorphisms where the function maps a group to itself.

    • @martijn130370
      @martijn130370 Před 4 lety

      Fantastic videos esp because of the clear concrete examples!

    • @shafiullah627
      @shafiullah627 Před 2 lety

      @@SilverArro Plz explain why we can do this mapping in group itself ?

  • @---gi9kf
    @---gi9kf Před 5 lety +67

    Wow! I understand isomorphism now. This is the best explanation. Thank you :)

  • @alejrandom6592
    @alejrandom6592 Před 25 dny

    This is gold, I can't believe this series is free

  • @kemaltezerdilsiz4126
    @kemaltezerdilsiz4126 Před 8 lety +5

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  • @AM-rb4ps
    @AM-rb4ps Před 9 lety

    I've been needing this exact video for a long time. Thank you!

  • @MattRichards711
    @MattRichards711 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm really excited about this concept! Isomorphisms must be such a powerful tool to translate one type of group that can't be manipulated easily into a simpler one.

  • @lynettemojica6503
    @lynettemojica6503 Před 4 lety +9

    Thank you for this playlist... my friends and I are studying Abstract Algebra this summer before the class in the fall.

    • @Socratica
      @Socratica  Před 4 lety +4

      That's fantastic! We're so glad we're part of your independent summer school! 💜🦉

  • @toasteduranium
    @toasteduranium Před rokem +1

    I’m too lazy to sit down and read a textbook sometimes. This engaging format also lends more memorability. I appreciate your demeanor! I’ve been looking for good abstract algebra resources for a while, and I think I’ve found what I needed.

  • @rapturian8228
    @rapturian8228 Před 7 lety

    your channel and the presenter of these video series which is called "Abstract Algebra" are magnificent. I'm glad that I have you, guys. Also, I hope you'll continue your videos.
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  • @danielberkowitz1304
    @danielberkowitz1304 Před 5 lety +2

    Best explanation for isomorphism I ever heard. Thank you so much!

  • @rubempacelli6815
    @rubempacelli6815 Před 2 měsíci

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  • @sirelegant2002
    @sirelegant2002 Před rokem

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  • @nicodemusmd
    @nicodemusmd Před 8 lety +2

    Oh, the clarity!

  • @raymangoel9327
    @raymangoel9327 Před 2 lety

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    @Rishabh_Joshi_ Před 3 lety

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    @riturajsingh6938 Před 4 lety +4

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    @ninosawbrzostowiecki1892 Před 8 lety +3

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  • @sanjursan
    @sanjursan Před 9 lety +19

    Just superb! Thank you so much.

    • @Socratica
      @Socratica  Před 9 lety +2

      Thank you for watching, sanjursan!

  • @mountain3301
    @mountain3301 Před rokem +2

    A lot of things clicked into place for me after watching this video. Thank you for so concisely expressing these concepts!

    • @Socratica
      @Socratica  Před rokem +1

      That's so amazing to hear. Thank you for letting us know our videos are helping! 💜🦉

    • @dansman1729
      @dansman1729 Před 5 měsíci +1

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  • @bottleimp007
    @bottleimp007 Před 4 lety

    Absolutely excellent instruction!

  • @AbhishekBhal
    @AbhishekBhal Před 8 lety +5

    Hi please do a video on cyclic groups... thanks

  • @user-lj8yf2rk7m
    @user-lj8yf2rk7m Před 6 lety +6

    you just save me from dying in my math class

  • @jadekan72
    @jadekan72 Před 2 lety

    Excellent! This helps me to understand isomorphism for the first time after school lecture! Thank you so much!

  • @savitasondhi7690
    @savitasondhi7690 Před 5 lety

    Awesome explanation

  • @NeerajSingh-kl1dl
    @NeerajSingh-kl1dl Před 5 lety +1

    good presentation

  • @narendrakhadka9598
    @narendrakhadka9598 Před rokem

    wow! i understand isomorphism now.This is the best explanation

  • @rajdeepsarkar5721
    @rajdeepsarkar5721 Před 5 lety +1

    Very good and quality video ..thank you mam

  • @Gipsy4u
    @Gipsy4u Před 9 lety

    Thanks, good stuff, keep it up

  • @phyziks878
    @phyziks878 Před 5 lety

    Superb explanation mam ,thank you

  • @rayharmuth8587
    @rayharmuth8587 Před 9 měsíci

    I like your video! I really enjoyed watching it.

  • @masterstghm
    @masterstghm Před 8 lety

    Wish you did videos on cyclic groups and quotient groups!

  • @abrahamsweetvoice7687
    @abrahamsweetvoice7687 Před 4 lety

    Probably the best explanation of isomorphism in humankind. I think in less then 10 years youtube will replace all those sh*tty books we use in our classes.

  • @tomau3946
    @tomau3946 Před 4 měsíci

    I believe that the correct description is that f NEED not be 1 to 1 (or onto). It CAN be, but doesn't HAVE TO be.

  • @tanjinaaktar1146
    @tanjinaaktar1146 Před 2 lety

    Best teaching style

  • @khansaheb7991
    @khansaheb7991 Před 5 lety +1

    Please upload a video about Cayley &isomorphism theorem

  • @aishwaryadash4166
    @aishwaryadash4166 Před 7 lety +1

    This was quite helpful...

  • @jairobonilla7980
    @jairobonilla7980 Před rokem

    Very clearly... CONGRATS

  • @kunslipper
    @kunslipper Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you so much.

  • @1995amittai1
    @1995amittai1 Před 4 lety +1

    To be more precise:
    Isomorphisms are maps that preserve structures between objects (groups for instance) f s.t. you can find a different map g s.t. fg=Id, gf=Id.
    Since homomorphisms preserve structures between objects in groups, these are the type of maps we analyse to find isomorphisms.
    The only type of homomorphism with the property we look for are bijective homomorphism.
    This is the reason bijective homomorphisms are isometries in the category of groups.
    But an isomorphism is something more abstract.
    You might say that an isomorphism between two objects means that they have the same structure within the discussed category of objects.
    Isomorphic groups A,B for instance are essentially the same when discussing group theory, and this is why we really couldn't care less within group theory which of the two objects we discuss.
    However, if we look at our two groups A,B though the lens of a different theory, which cares for other properties they might hold, then they might not be isomorphic in that frame of discussion

  • @malikahsan4535
    @malikahsan4535 Před 5 lety +2

    Can you please upload the lecture about caley's theorem?

  • @alessiodenny6123
    @alessiodenny6123 Před 5 lety

    excellent video !! thanks

  • @arghyagemini
    @arghyagemini Před 9 lety +4

    thank you very much......helps to survive my semester...!!!

    • @Socratica
      @Socratica  Před 9 lety +2

      Arghya Haldar We are so glad you are finding our videos helpful! Thanks so much for watching.

    • @avinaysingh3904
      @avinaysingh3904 Před 5 lety

      Can I ask you a serious question, what's the purpose of this math? How to apply it?

  • @moularaoul643
    @moularaoul643 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you so much!!!

  • @mownistark5770
    @mownistark5770 Před 5 lety +4

    I can understand better here than my professor lecture 🙂

    • @navjotsingh2251
      @navjotsingh2251 Před 4 lety

      Because here she is teaching us and building our intuition, something professors seem to fail in doing

  • @user-lg7mf8sx4w
    @user-lg7mf8sx4w Před 5 lety

    Thank you soo much!!

  • @AnastasisKr
    @AnastasisKr Před 7 lety +24

    You should have used the definition of isomorphism as a morphism with a left and right inverse. Then give the intuition that a homomorphism maps group structure to an object and the inverse maps back from it, the existence of the two sided inverse would then necessitate the structure can be moved freely back and forth between the objects.
    This definition is not only equivalent in the case of groups, but it generalizes and unifies most mathematical objects. For example, you could draw the analogies with a familiar analogue: isomorphism of sets (ie: bijection), a visual/geometric analogue isomorphism of topologies (ie: homeomorphism) and then conclude by saying this concept (formed in this way) is the notion used in all of modern mathematics (ie: make a reference to category theory where the idea belongs).
    Personal Comment:
    - The set based definition you gave is a dated point of view which conceals elegant and intuitively simple mechanism by which the isomorphism preserves the structure of the group and is weighed down by set theoretic conceptual obstructions.

    • @bcthoburn
      @bcthoburn Před 5 lety +1

      Anastasis K So true, even though I’m still just learning about this

  • @coolquitepowerful
    @coolquitepowerful Před 3 lety

    Smart teaching thanks

  • @tahaanouar2453
    @tahaanouar2453 Před 5 lety

    At 2:00 we denote by definition to the logarithm base 10 by "log" and logarithm bas e by "ln" so to get x we must rise 10 to (log(x)) and not e .... is this true ?

  • @thanushathisanthan5290
    @thanushathisanthan5290 Před 7 lety +1

    wow!! thank you so much.

  • @adventhouse6506
    @adventhouse6506 Před rokem

    Well done

  • @randomvideostokillboredom9672

    great help, thanks.

  • @mubahaliqbal5063
    @mubahaliqbal5063 Před 3 lety

    Plz give more lectures on group theory

  • @sananseyidbeyli3073
    @sananseyidbeyli3073 Před 6 lety

    good job

  • @mehmetedex
    @mehmetedex Před 4 lety

    you are savior of students who suffer from bad teachers

  • @saranegi8316
    @saranegi8316 Před 3 lety

    wowwww you explain sooo good maam

  • @akankshamadhuriraj1565

    Tnku.... Nd plz say about cyclic group........

  • @MrMutant-v1h
    @MrMutant-v1h Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks mam

  • @nephildevil
    @nephildevil Před 8 lety +63

    why the hell am I watching a random algebraic theory lesson at half past 1 on a Saturday night >.

  • @yahya5308
    @yahya5308 Před 4 lety

    Sometimes we say that two groups are isomorphic and we dont specify the function , is that corect ??

  • @enterthepleasuredome8602

    Me to the Iconfuseda. This is one of the times when I actually would like links. Links to the videos that need to be understood BEFORE this.

  • @jairoselin5119
    @jairoselin5119 Před 3 lety

    Mam it was amazing class.. but can you help me how to find out one such function exist between two functions? Thanks in advance ❤️

  • @larbibenghrieb
    @larbibenghrieb Před 3 lety

    thank you ❤️

  • @isaacahiazu3695
    @isaacahiazu3695 Před 3 lety

    You are a GREAT Algebraist. I love math more each time I watch your video. Can you be my personal teacher? I want to specialize in Abstract Algebra.

  • @saurabhsingh-ow7ue
    @saurabhsingh-ow7ue Před 3 lety

    thank you madam...........

  • @nuradinamin1628
    @nuradinamin1628 Před 7 lety

    do you have vedio on application of field:?

  • @lemyul
    @lemyul Před 4 lety

    thanks tom

  • @rajarshichattopadhyay8407

    how can u call something which is not a bijection as a function(i.e. in case of homomorphism)???

  • @keylee85
    @keylee85 Před 5 lety +2

    Home girl is so funny. I love the way she talks. I feel like I'm watching a crime show with the eerie music in the backround. lol.

  • @sirluoyi2853
    @sirluoyi2853 Před 2 lety

    Done!

  • @naziabno
    @naziabno Před 4 lety

    how ring monomorphism and epimorphism can be characterized by using kernel and image

  • @saurabhsingh-ow7ue
    @saurabhsingh-ow7ue Před 3 lety

    thank you madam.....

  • @mohit0901
    @mohit0901 Před rokem

    WHERE WERE YOU BACK THEN ?!!!???

  • @chowhan13
    @chowhan13 Před 5 lety +3

    At last I'm subscribing

  • @zracklfr1334
    @zracklfr1334 Před 2 lety

    what is meant at 1:30 when she says all real number under addition? and all positive real numbers under multiplication?

    • @MuffinsAPlenty
      @MuffinsAPlenty Před 2 lety

      A group is a set together with a binary operation. You need both elements and an operation.
      The "real numbers under addition" means that the set of elements you have consists of _all_ real numbers (positive, 0, negative), where the operation is addition.
      The "positive real numbers under multiplication" means that the set of elements you have consists only of positive real numbers (no negative, no 0, but everything positive is there), where the operation is multiplication.

  • @reymarkpaquiao8964
    @reymarkpaquiao8964 Před 2 lety

    prove that g= a+b√2 a b€a and b are not both zero is a subgroup of r under the group operation.
    Can you please answer these.

  • @Mycrosss
    @Mycrosss Před 5 lety

    How's example 1 an isomorphism when G is defined in R+, while H is R? Isn't R+ half the size, how can it be an onto? Or is this another one of those classic math things where if two groups are infinite, we're gonna look at them like they're the same size (even though ones obviously bigger) ?

  • @dansman1729
    @dansman1729 Před 5 měsíci +1

    *jerk jerk jerk* hooo, hufff, hooo, haff.... Phew! Man, this video was so helpful to me... much more so than my dry, stale textbook really was. I feel like I have really... "internalized" these concepts now.

  • @Klebtomaniac
    @Klebtomaniac Před rokem

    Honestly I was looking this up cuz I saw a keyboard that was isomorphic and idk what it meant. Now I know so much idek what to do with this info

  • @Shaan_Suri
    @Shaan_Suri Před 6 měsíci

    I don't understand why at 1:44 you show that f(x*y) = f(x) + f(y). I thought the condition for homomorphism was that f(x)*f(x) = f(x+y) ?

  • @simplesalmon1604
    @simplesalmon1604 Před 6 lety

    Doesn't 1:54 only show that the logarithmic function itself is "1-1" instead of the mapping of the domain G on the codomain H?

    • @andinomie8988
      @andinomie8988 Před 5 lety

      That is precisely what I thought. I believe it ought to be R+ under + as the second point.

  • @jasonbourne9798
    @jasonbourne9798 Před rokem

    At 4:15, it is stated that Cx is not isomorphic to S1. However, in the chapter on isomorphisms in Gallian, in the section on Cayley's theorem (last paragraph) it says "... the group of nonzero complex numbers under multiplication is isomorphic to the group of complex numbers with absolute value of 1 under multiplication." And there is a reference to a paper with a complicated proof I couldn't understand 😅 So, I'm confused, is Gallian talking about something diffferent or is Cx isomorphic to S1? The paper referred in Gallian is: "The punctured plane is isomorphic to the unit circle" by James R Clay

    • @MuffinsAPlenty
      @MuffinsAPlenty Před rokem +1

      There's a very subtle detail here to be careful about! In the video, it was stated that f is not an isomorphism. This _does not_ mean that C^x and S^1 are not isomorphic. It just means that this _particular function_ is not an isomorphism. Other functions could be isomorphisms between C^x and S^1. The isomorphism between C^x and S^1 is much more complicated than the function shown in the video.

    • @jasonbourne9798
      @jasonbourne9798 Před rokem

      ​@@MuffinsAPlentyAh yes! Feels so obvious now that it's been pointed out, but couldn't sort it out myself. Thanks for replying!

  • @codethegamer
    @codethegamer Před 9 lety +3

    really nice even thought i didnt understand a thing. but i would like to say keep going your amazing.

  • @MaxxTosh
    @MaxxTosh Před 2 lety

    Couldn’t you map all points on the unit circle to a unique point on the real line using stereographic projection? If anything it’s perfect because you’re losing 0 in the domain and you have to lose either 0 or infinity in the range

  • @jayasreereddy3259
    @jayasreereddy3259 Před 5 lety

    Nice

  • @stormzykirey6552
    @stormzykirey6552 Před 2 lety

    So in what way can you prove that it is an isomorphism given the imaginary entry to be 0

  • @HassanJMandour
    @HassanJMandour Před 4 lety

    I think the illustration at @0:54 for surjection is reversed, the function should map to all H and not _necessirely_ from all G.

    • @MuffinsAPlenty
      @MuffinsAPlenty Před 4 lety

      No, the diagram represents exactly what they want it to represent. A homomorphism does _not_ need to be a surjection, so it doesn't have to map onto all of H. That's why they show it only mapping to part of H.
      For the record, by the definition of a function, since the domain is G, _all_ of G has to be mapped somewhere.

    • @HassanJMandour
      @HassanJMandour Před 4 lety

      @@MuffinsAPlenty Yup, thank you, for some reason, I thought they were trying to illustrate surjectivity (to say it's not the case that), but your point makes more sense.
      And for the domain part, I was just being dump for some reason :"D

  • @NiftyFingers
    @NiftyFingers Před 7 lety

    So is it true to say, if you have G,* and you have H,# then,
    if you have an isomorphism, you have a homomorphism. If you have a homomorphism, you have a function.
    But if you have a function, you may or may not have a homomorphism. If you have a homomorphism, you may or may not have an isomorphism?

    • @Socratica
      @Socratica  Před 7 lety +1

      Correct! If you were to draw a Venn diagram, the set of isomorphisms would lie inside the set of homomorphisms, which would like inside the set of functions.

  • @signature.smile.4
    @signature.smile.4 Před 3 lety +1

    Lol, I totally loved your pun at last line, i thought it was another question but, isubscribed too😂😂🤸!!!
    Amazing background music, nice nice!!!

  • @forheuristiclifeksh7836
    @forheuristiclifeksh7836 Před 3 měsíci +1

    0:56

  • @nizamsakil587
    @nizamsakil587 Před 2 lety

    nice voice

  • @tuikolovatufalemaka2096

    If two groups are abelian with the same order, do they automatically isomorphic?

    • @Socratica
      @Socratica  Před 7 lety +6

      Unfortunately, no. For example, the groups Z/2Z x Z/2Z and Z/4Z are both of order 4, but are non-isomorphic. (Here, Z/nZ are the integers mod n.) There is a very nice theorem that describes all finite abelian groups which we'll talk about in an upcoming video.

    • @Grassmpl
      @Grassmpl Před 2 lety

      If you replace abelian with cyclic then you are right. In general, the number of nonisomophic abelian groups for a particular finite order is the product of some integer partition numbers.

  • @alancristopher3539
    @alancristopher3539 Před 2 lety

    How prove this?
    Let S^1={z ϵ complex numbers: |z|=1}, and let H be the additive group of real numbers. Use the first isomorphy theorem to show that H/ is isomorphic to S^1.
    Please help :(

    • @lugia8888
      @lugia8888 Před 2 lety

      Find a map between the sets (has something to do with Euler Formula) and prove it is a bijection and homomorphism

  • @SHASHANKRUSTAGII
    @SHASHANKRUSTAGII Před 3 lety

    Its not an isomorphism because it was not one one, as the graph of f'(x) >0 and f'(x)

  • @liketsontobo8463
    @liketsontobo8463 Před rokem

    @socratica am I the only one confused here, the range is not all real numbers, log(x) is no defined at x=0

  • @cameronspalding9792
    @cameronspalding9792 Před 3 lety

    Do homomorphisms have to be surjective

    • @MuffinsAPlenty
      @MuffinsAPlenty Před 3 lety

      Homomorphisms are not required to be surjective. They are also not required to be injective.
      On the other hand, isomoprhisms are required to be both surjective and injective.

  • @Mathgodpi
    @Mathgodpi Před 8 lety

    So an isomorphism of a set is basically a relabeling of the set.

    • @Socratica
      @Socratica  Před 8 lety +8

      It's a relabeling that also preserves the group operation. For example, suppose in group G you have a*b = c. And with an isomorphism from G to H you relabel a, b, c as x, y, z, then because a*b = c in G, you want to have x*y = z in H. It's possible to have relabelings that do not preserve the group operation. These would simply be 1-1 mappings, and not isomorphisms.

  • @tylerbakeman
    @tylerbakeman Před 6 měsíci

    4:50
    “Isomorphism” is actually not a great name, because it can be misleading. “Equal shape” sounds practical for ‘Top’ or ‘Ten’.
    Isomorphisms are invertible, which is what makes them more interesting than homomorphisms. The name doesn’t imply invertibility.
    But, it’s not a bad name either; especially because it’s so widely used.