One Take: Shimakaze
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2021
- Today we are looking at one of the oldest most played ships in the entire game. Has time left this ship underpowered or is it still one of the best dd's in the game?
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Dang, what a great show of situational awareness, good decision making, knowing strenghts and weaknesses of the ships you are facing _and ofc a bit of luck helps as well_
That second shima game...one of the most, if not the most entertaining DD game on YT I've seen in the last 2 months and it's also teaching good lessons.
RPF all day long in the Shimmy. For all the usual reasons, but also it's best single gunnery enhancement. Yes, Shimmy reload is long but OMG the damage of a salvo. RPF so you always have the 1st shot. Don't care what DD you are in, finding out you are in a gunfight with a Shimmy because you just ate a full salvo of Shimmy HE is a bad day. Fun thing is, other DDs underestimate the Shimmy guns all the time and make bad decisions. Like attacking with too little HP or chasing while ignoring the Shimmy has 2 aft turrets and can trade pretty well in that mode. They can be punished for all that and I can witness that happens quite a bit.
you can tell actual Shimaplayer talking =)
What is RPF and aft turrets? (I'm not native English speaker)
@@burt591 aft means the back end of the ship, so there is 2 turrets pointing backwards. Rpf means short for the commander skill that gives you a radio location of the closest enemy ship sailing around. Hope this helps.
Same here (DD main) Always use RPF and the gund on IJN torp DDs. Dont know how many DD, cruiser and BB kills i gotten with the guns. And they set a decent amount of fires as well.
100% agree, even with my Swift in Silence perk i get good damage. So many DD's come rushing in, thinking to get an easy kill. But the velocity, arcs, fire chance and HE dmg are more than a match for most DD's, and AP can really surprise some cruisers broadsided. These guns are WAY underrated.
This man is truly composed in an unorthodox manner, with that ballsy play near the end
i mean, he played very well but ballsy? Imho if you know Shima it wasn't ballsy. He actualy did run too far for me. You just need to have that Island out of detectionrange and you are fine. Haru is slower, has a bigger detectionrange and, even if he spots you, he for sure will turn to use all of the guns. Aaaand you're undetected again.
That is just my humble opinion so no need to go crazy D:
Shima is the first line I grinded and still my favourite. Unfortunately I'm still not a great player so I really appreciate these videos, especially this one!
how 8 hrs ago?
My guy time travelin . . .
why
I think 8hrs ago, he posted this vid. Erased it, fixed it and now it's bk with all fixes done!
No, I am in fact a time traveler.
the roses at the end with the chirps broooooo
Im a DD mian and this is actually a good representation of Shima in current Meta IF you know how to play torp DD. She is still so strong. People that say she is weak or powercrept just dont know how to play her and how to adjust to new metas.
imho she still is one of the strongest DDs out there
@@Tearnofear Yup! She and Asashio strikes fear into enemy BBs.
@@oldschoolgaming4763 Long range DDs and LCs are funny to use. You launch torpedo thinking you probably miss and after a while you hear "Sesshhh, Sesshhh, Sesshh Clic-Woooooooommm! Enemy (class) Sunk!!!!"
@@BiohazardCrow Yeah, my Asashio is like that every other game. I aim my 20 km torps at one target and maybe miss, then 1 min later i get "hit, hit, hit" on something 18-19 km away that wasent even spotted. I sunk 3 CVs so far by doing this. Its specially great when a CV gets spotted within 20 km for just a couple of seconds and then he goes dark and thinks he is safe and then 2 min later your torps hit his stationary ship.
It really takes skill and "high level DD IQ" to do this, I'm still not able to but getting there slowly. I've seen your videos OldSchool, you are definetely there :).
Wow, crazy second game! I appreciate how you were talking through what you wanted to do next. I got really excited when you decided to go for the CV instead of capping B. Turned out to be the best play.
I love this series. I am watching every single Video. I was so invested in the Gameplay. Well Done.
'' I've never seen someone play like this ''
- PQ about a Des Moines literally running it down
I'm coming back to the game from a few years inactive, thanks for the really well laid out and informative video.
Thank you... I learn so much from your videos. A lot because you actually explain what you are doing and why. For us new players, that's very important. ... 🙂
You were talking about the torp speed option. I haven’t done the math for the Shima, but I did it to choose between the 90 and 95 knot torps in the Halland. The important thing to know is that hit probability goes up as the square of torpedo velocity. For the Halland, 95 knots have a 11.4% greater probability of getting a hit, all else equal, compared to the 90 knot torps. I would expect Shima to be higher. 2 points (Swift Fish) for 14.8% (I just did the math.) higher hit probability seems a good deal to me.
Beautiful illustration of the potential of Shima. I just unlocked her. Will be inspired by this game!!! Thank you
Dang! That some next level plays dude.
Oh the rose at the end! Love it x
2nd match was exciting and superb to watch.
Shima is a great gunboat in right occasions ;) Fine and tactic and strategic play, gg man
Great games man
Well. That was exciting!
47.5ish knots with swift in silence, I think that skill is made for this boat.
Stilla a bad choice for those cap points
@@oldschoolgaming4763 Its grear when you're running 8km torps and can ditch the torpedo speed perk. I have conceal, swift, and rpf on my captain
Great review. The gun DDs overtook the torps DDs
I'm quite enjoying the little garden snippets at the end. The ship stuff is ok too I suppose ;)
14:54 I've been wondering for so long how to switch the camera for my cannons. Every time I have an enemy ship tilt at 45 degrees, I would know that half of my firepower would not land. This tip is certainly the most helpful yet.
nice games. Great DD play.
nice flower at the end
Great vid
flowers at the end is a nice idea.
that second game was really entertaining and suspenseful
Reminds me of a game yesterday in the Yugumo, where i had two kitas with rpf chasing me down. They were both 5.5-5.6 km away.
PQ you are legend brother
I never see u-tubers lock their turrets. What's the deal guys? CTRL+x locks your turrets in place, and then just press x to get them back under control. Very handy for making turns and switching gun sides and still being able to control your ship and view easily.
freelook is faster and more effective
@@PotatoQuality you can lock turrets and still free look(assuming that means holding the right mouse button down?). Shrug. Each to their own I guess. I find a few seconds turret lock when switching sides on a BB can make all the difference.
Not so much on fast turrets like DDs ofc...
I've honestly had tremendous success with the 20km torps actually, which is weird. People on YT, streams, reddit and even my grandparents keep telling me that "20kms are bad, only bad players get hit by them" which might be true, but they are a MENACE to be reckon with in random battles. The bonus being t hat you don't have to care about radar ranges either. So you can torp from 12,1-14 clicks away.
I only have 72-73k damage average on my shima, but I reckon that's decent enough (got over 60% winrate, so either im doing something right or im getting carried in over half of my games :P) but I consider that decent cus I for sure have some of those games where you just don't hit ANY torpedoes. Just like how I Do with the Halland, and the games are just over in minutes, so you don't really get to make much of a difference.
Whilst on the 12km ones I feel whilst the speed is TREMENDOUSLY good, you have the opportunity to get blapped faster as well or be irrelevant if you get unlucky and meet a lineup with many radars (like your first game)
You should keep using them if they work for you. Thats the great thing about different upgrades to ships, they let people try different styles and figure out what works best for them.
@@PotatoQuality Oh yeah, definitely. Wasn't a comment meant as a "my word is bible" or that your word is the bible :P More so that it works surprisingly well considering how much shit it seems that they get from just browsing those places I mentioned.
I have however never gotten anything special done with the 8km ones, and I assume they are just more of a meme than anything. Or if you expect to always be top tiered into t8 matches and just gamble they never have radars what so ever. Now THOSE I just feel bad about using (personally)
@@Popmycherryyo i think it works cause its not in peoples mind. Especially better Player can struggle with it cause they think they have "everything calculated". I actualy do love to play against Radar or CVs most of the time, it would be too easy without xD
@@Popmycherryyo I think the difference is using the 20km torps from 10-12 km away and then having the extra range just in case. Nothing wrong with using them like that, opponents just have a little more time to react but they can never out range them. The meme about the 20km torps being awful is people using them on targets 18-24km away and then wondering why they have spread so far apart that even the Yamato can find gaps to turn through.
@@chronographer Yeah, I can get that in that instance it would be...well, horrible to say the least.
wow dunno why I always enjoying shima video
I hope potato got the memo to not trust the torpedo lead when turning.
The second game was so amazing! You should send it to Jingles.
I run RPF, 12km torps and always shoot HE. Love my Shima, it was my first Tier 10 many years ago.
Well played PQ =) ( i mean for a BB captain xD ) na srsly, wp. Shima still is a very, very good DD. The plays you can make with that concealement alone, playing with AA on/off and so on. I do a lot of areatorps, so much that i sometimes get asked what i do or if i think those torps will hit anything (i mean, thats not the point but hey^^). Its sooooo freakin easy to collect XP with this thing you dont even need torphits. Screen, Cap, Spot.
Any possible gearing games in the works, could do its gun boat set up and the torp boat set up in the one takes. thats my only t10 DD working on shima atm.
I sold off the line a few months back, and finally got back up to Yugamo... Can't wait for Shima to be back in my port again. 😊
Watching your Monty in the 1st game push through the cap and keep going makes me think many players don't think at ALL about winning, it's just "find red dot, shoot at it". What did they expect to happen given what they were driving into, and what were they going to achieve by doing it? Would love to be able to ask them those things.
Now you gotta make the top best carriers lol shouldn't be fun for you buy for me and other carrier players yes and should be fun to watch to! Ggs brotha
so C to cycle through the torps, finally figured it out
i thought its only for replays
If u take swift and silence the shima is the 3rd I believe fastest DD in the game with speed flag.
It isn’t, Kléber and Marceau are the fastest but that shima built is probably top 7
Wow man that was cool I’m really bad at this game
35:04 delicious fear
Wow such a suspensful game the second one was!
that DM in first game was an actual bot, lots of them recently
Shima with legendary mod and rpf is great.
Guns pack a punch, while you turn away and run like hell. 1-3 volleys at best.
Almost the same build what I use. I love to have rpf on dd-s
Gg on the last game, I’d of been like a cat on a hot tin roof
The 20km torps are triply easy to dodge, bigger detection range, slower speed to cover that detection range. But people always forget about the spread! Once the torps are out past 15 km they have fanned out so far that gaps are easy to find.
21:07 if Bob Ross were playing Wows 🤣
I thought the same
Just noticed that the Des Moines who did the stupid play in the first game was actually in the second game aswell, where he did the same thing lmao
Shima is still strong and its awesome, it just takes a lot of patience and good positioning in the current meta. Rather difficult nowadays, but the payoff is enornous when you play well
Thoughts about Hayate PQ?
I run the 8km torps, and use shima as a rapid flanker
Grease the Gears (Yamamoto)
Last Stand
Survivability Expert
Concealment Expert
RPF
Swift in Silence
Torpedo Armament Expert
With the legendary upgrade or nah?
@@chronographer No. I recommend only using legmod with the 12km and 20km. The point of 8km is to be unstoppable at 3-6km since your torps find it hard to miss and hit extremely hard
What was Potato Qualitys ingame name that resulted in the forced change? Was it "Potato Quality"?
Why don't you take the lvl 1 torp skill liqidator?
Skip bombers that don’t have to skip? Maybe they should give those poor not OP CV players torps that you can drop straight on a target also?
Good stuff, except for when you got spotted by Hindy and co in the first match. Seriously, someone as good as you that knows how much you do about this game should also know to slow down when turning then you wouldn't have gotten spotted when you did. Too focused on the ships you forget you are still going full speed :~)
FDR goes in with half squadron early game, wouldn’t it be nice if WG let us choose how many planes to launch each time we launch a squadron?
I really wish I had more tactical sense.
😮😢
23:00 Kiill me XD lmao comedic timing
Wow wow wow... no need to flex on me with that 3000 Juliet Whiskey Unaone.
Send this second replay to Jingles
The torp diarrhea ship.
You got a new mic?
Imagine your base score in the 2nd game if you actually got a cap ;)
8km torps on shima - just good fun, live fast, die young......
Your playing shima wrong, true artisans know the way you do it is rush into a cap spam the support button. Die to radar, blame your team for not supporting you, profit.
over 1M xp on the ship and doesn't even unlock the 20 km torps
It's interesting to see how to play a torpedoboat, compared to the absolute glut of gunboats I've seen playing recently. Most of the Shimas I run into are still stereotypical crap players, but still.
@@swdoctor There is difference between servers when it comes to overall player abilities.
Shima is love. Great games.
It's "Sheemah kah say" not "kah zee"
i=ee
e= ay
The Japanese pronunciation yes correct. But English pronunciation is still ok. Like pronouncing Jesus in english is "Geezus" but in spanish is "Hayzoos" neither way is incorrect.
@@allaboutboats Not entirely the same because the word jesus isn’t a native spanish word but Shimakaze is a native japanese word.
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Ya don't play shima cos ya like to shoot things. in. tha. face! ;)
pure cancer for the game. nothing makes t10 boring like a shima, everyone has to sit back and do nothing