H&R is the way to go. The drop is perfect with barely any wheel gap. No wheel spacers needed running 275/40/20. Also you will need to invest in aftermarket control arms but its not a "must" at the moment. Great video!!
@@jermailw7020 hmmmm... that's very interested I never heard that in my life. Reason I'm asking is because I have a 2019 with less than 20,000 miles on it. So I wouldn't see the need to buy aftermarket parts. Sounds like they may just want your money
Great video. That was cool to be able to get the two cars together like that and compare the two. I won’t ever be able to lower a car but it’s great to see the compare.
Eibach always have a rake regardless if you choose a Sportline or Pro Kit. My last 3 cars had Pro Kits (2007 Sonata, 1999 Prelude, 2000 Monte Carlo) because Texas highways and roads suck. Right now I am driving a modded 2007 Taurus w/King lowering springs from Australia because Eibach discontinued lowering springs for the forth gen Taurus. As long as you have the offset and tire size right you can't go wrong with Eibach. H&Rs are great springs too. It is all about what you like. Both RTs look great by the way. 👌
Bro I really respect both of you guy's making really good videos helping me allot to change my charger I watch you guys video so I installed spoiler and wicker bill thanks allot 🙏👏🤛
I love it you got honked at and flipped off and the whole time I was up there I didn't get honked at or flipped off. Okay I might have gotten a finger or two I'm just too blind to see it.
The H&R springs do look more aggressive. I know what you guys mean I have lowering springs as well And at a higher speed on the highway if I go by a dip it feels like my tires rub but only for that moment.
I'm installing my D2 racing springs for my 5.7 300 this weekend. 1.8" front/ 2.0" back for $170. All reviews I've seen have been good, so we will see. 🤞
@@satoshinakamoto7950 easy install. After settling the drop was more like 2" front and 2.2 rear. Everything is good, just be careful if installing LTH they will scrub on everything due to the front being lower than other kits.
I just installed the Eibach Pro Kit on my 2016 scat pack challenger and its low enough. The sport line would be too low imo. It's weird because mine looks lower than yours and the sport is more aggressive of a drop. Still dope tho good shit brotha!
Yah mine doesn't look crazy low at all. I heard the pro kit is perfect for the streets. You get that lowered look without having to worry about bottoming out & crappy roads. Thanks man, def appreciate the support.
Nice set up man. I bought my 2018 Charger RT used which was already lowered to hell. The tire is tucked into the wheel well basically (no wheel gap at all). Negative camber is visible in the rear, barely visible in the front. I just bought the Pro Kit (1.4 x 1.2) with the shocks from Eibach so maybe this will help the negative camber some without sacrificing too much loweredness (not a real word). I run 275 40 20 all around so it shouldn’t rub at all I would think.
I’d love to lower my RT. But the potholes and the train tracks would just slow me down and I’d spend most my time in a shop! 😆 Now if it came with a type of automatic adjustable leveler...was able to raise an inch or so after a certain MPH...I might go for that. Love this content.
I don’t think potholes or train tracks should impact your decision. I dropped my ‘14 Challenger using the H&R springs and the ride quality is simply amazing. Its only a little harsher than the oem springs. So if you are basing your decision solely on ride quality due to bumps the H&R are the way to go. From research on youtube the Mopar lowering springs are stiffer, The Eibach are ok but the HR offer the nicest ride.
I just got Vogtland's on my 18 Challenger Scat last week. I am waiting to see how the settle. Day 1 was about 3/4" front and 7/8" I believe they are listed as 1" front and rear.
Man I installed the h&r with a lowering strut and I'm tucked alot more than that red charger and I dont like it would like to to sit right above the tires ...
I think im gonna go with prokits just to keep my rubs/scrapes to a minimum. Finally got the Voxx Demon Replicas with the 265x35 and 305x30 setup. OH... i wanted to also ask, when you swapped out your rims, did you have to have your TPMS reprogrammed? My system is throwing a tire pressure light but the pressures are reading accurate and not even close to low pressure.
Can you please do a video on the 392 with adjustable suspension I have a 2014 SRT8 392 and since I can't buy coilovers because they just a little dampening I want to know what is the best spring rate because that car already comes a lowered from the factory versus the stock Charger RT or Challenger RT
Oh man, don't get me started on the H&R springs. They were horrible on my hellcat until I swapped them out with Eibach's. They are a LOT lower in the back on big red. I can't see how he won't rub with some passenger or luggage weight.
I had the H&R springs on my 2015 RT. I loved the way it looked, but they lie about how low the drop is in the rear. It is almost 2 inches not 1.4 which made it impossible to align it. I was -3.1 degrees camber on both rear wheels. Even with camber bushings it was still -1.6 degrees camber. I wore out a set of tires in a year because of it. Took it in for an oil change and found out the inside belts were showing. Also the ride was absolutely horrible. The ride was so hard and stiff. No spring at all. Even a 15 minute ride was unbearable. I just put the Mopar stage 1 springs on my car and couldn't be happier. Yes it's not as low but so much comfortable. Eventually i'm going with coilovers.
I just bought Eibach lowering springs for my S40t5. Can't seem to make up my mind about changing to heavier duty shocks. If I decide to go forward, what's a good but reasonably priced shock/strut?
What size tires are you guys running with these springs? i wanna make sure the springs i bought are not ganna b rubbing when i drop it my tires are stock
Hey rt life! I know this is an old video but will there be rub on 245/45/r20 stock wheels all around? On the stock charger rt plus rims (more aggresive looking eom rims)
R/T Life quick question on ur shorty headers in the past did the oem gaskets work im having jba shorts put in tomorrow with stage8 bolt kit and brand new oem 5.7 gaskets will it work out good?
Hello bro. Im runnin on EIBACH PRO KIT and i usually scratch my exhaust when i drive on a high speed bump and exhaust stand bend to touch the exhaust, did this issue happened to you guys if yes what is the solution other than takng each speed bump from an angel
Lmao! I'd a given her the finger back! So the cost was total 4 springs or per spring? I want to put my own springs on, I heard it's not too bad to do yourself. I really wanted to do bags but then I'd get weighted down with the equipment. I want speed and looks lol.
When I put my vehicle information, it states that this product is it applicable for it. I own a 2019 Dodge Charger R/T... anyway you can send me the link?
yo RT, soo i have a 2015 dodge charger RT and i want to lower my i’ll go for them H&R! do you know what tire size his using in the rear? i have 275-40-20 soo 1.7 F and 1.4 R don’t you think the rear need to be drop a little more around 1.7 R in the H&R’s you have 1.7 in the rear his is 1.4 and it looks way dropped then yours how’s that possible haha 😂
I got it on my 2020 WB scat and I have no regrets, I did my homework on H&R and they are not suitable for scat or cat to stiff and to low in the back, actually if you go to the H&R website it will guide you to recommendation. Eibach pro kit is much more suitable for scat and cat soft and with a higher rear almost like what the factory intended not the other way around.
I bought my H&R Sport Springs for my charger Daytona and Scat Pack Challenger from Auto Anything and they were $242.00 so the almost 400 that you posted is wrong
I had eibach on a 350z back a few years ago and had 2 crack before going to coilovers. Now planning on dropping an srt and not sure if I wanna take the chance with them again
I got D2 Racing springs on my 2018 Daytona 5.7 woth 22" wheels. They only cost $170 shipped. They are supposed to be 1.8" Front and 2" in the back. I like the way it sits and rides. Check out my channel.
Thank You Everyone for the support!!! Make sure to hit that LIKE button
Was the car in the thumbnail photoshopped the color was amazing on the charger.
I know you said in the video both were on stock struts and shocks, but have you put the eibach pro dampers in?
R/T Life i am looking to put lowering springs and dampers in my 06 magnum. Would you recommend the eibachs as a lowering kit for general driving?
Hey RT is the 17th in Seaford still on for Sunday .
H&R states the rear is 1.8 in the back on the sports
I literally couldn’t stop staring at Red Hemi RT’s build at the deer park meet. Stunning in real life
yah he really has a nice ride. Def keeps it very neat.
H&R is the way to go. The drop is perfect with barely any wheel gap. No wheel spacers needed running 275/40/20. Also you will need to invest in aftermarket control arms but its not a "must" at the moment. Great video!!
Yah the H&R drop is nice.
Why would you recommend an after market control arm
Terry Mitchell essentially the car will never be perfectly aligned without the after market arms. Told to me from a performance shop for Mopar.
@@jermailw7020 hmmmm... that's very interested I never heard that in my life. Reason I'm asking is because I have a 2019 with less than 20,000 miles on it. So I wouldn't see the need to buy aftermarket parts. Sounds like they may just want your money
I’m looking at the H&R’s myself for my 20 but I’m going to buy the arms and rear bushings first to get the alignment dialed in!
Great video. That was cool to be able to get the two cars together like that and compare the two. I won’t ever be able to lower a car but it’s great to see the compare.
yah it was cool to show off the difference between the 2. Thanks man
Eibach always have a rake regardless if you choose a Sportline or Pro Kit. My last 3 cars had Pro Kits (2007 Sonata, 1999 Prelude, 2000 Monte Carlo) because Texas highways and roads suck. Right now I am driving a modded 2007 Taurus w/King lowering springs from Australia because Eibach discontinued lowering springs for the forth gen Taurus. As long as you have the offset and tire size right you can't go wrong with Eibach. H&Rs are great springs too. It is all about what you like. Both RTs look great by the way. 👌
yah I agree. I personally like having the back up a little - gives it more of that muscle look while also closing the gap a little.
Had my H&R’s on my 392 Charger for almost 7 months and still ride great.
Drops it down nicely. I like the look & the ride quality isn't bad at all.
The one and only thing that I enjoy about the red car over yours is the front fog lights look very sharp I think they would look awesome on your car
I hear you - I just have mine covered. I wanted it a little more stealthy looking. I can put it back at some point.
Tomorrow im supposed to be seeing a hellcat or dodge demon to review. I'll be sure to shout you out you deserve it my man. Keep up the great work.
Nice! Thanks man for the support. You the man
Thanks man
You got a love it when you drive a hemi A little bit a kid comes out in all of us 😎💯
They really are so much fun! I smile every time I drive one.
Thank You 😊👍
Bro I really respect both of you guy's making really good videos helping me allot to change my charger I watch you guys video so I installed spoiler and wicker bill thanks allot 🙏👏🤛
Thank you for the support - glad some of these videos are helping you with your ride. Def appreciate it
I love it you got honked at and flipped off and the whole time I was up there I didn't get honked at or flipped off. Okay I might have gotten a finger or two I'm just too blind to see it.
man I was surprised at how pissed she was lol! NY Drivers are funny
@@RTLife C'mon I expected an eye joke. I told you it's good, and I will go to task against anyone with a problem.
The H&R springs do look more aggressive. I know what you guys mean I have lowering springs as well And at a higher speed on the highway if I go by a dip it feels like my tires rub but only for that moment.
On the HWY I just chill in the middle lane - not to fast & not to slow. If I do that there is no issues.
R/T Life same here if I stay around 65 I have no issues as well
I'm installing my D2 racing springs for my 5.7 300 this weekend. 1.8" front/ 2.0" back for $170. All reviews I've seen have been good, so we will see. 🤞
Let me know how it goes - that's a nice drop.
@@RTLife will do.
How did it go?
@@satoshinakamoto7950 easy install. After settling the drop was more like 2" front and 2.2 rear. Everything is good, just be careful if installing LTH they will scrub on everything due to the front being lower than other kits.
Red Hemi's car is sharp. Thanks for the video.
Agreed. He def has a nice looking ride! Thank you for the support
I just installed the Eibach Pro Kit on my 2016 scat pack challenger and its low enough. The sport line would be too low imo. It's weird because mine looks lower than yours and the sport is more aggressive of a drop. Still dope tho good shit brotha!
Yah mine doesn't look crazy low at all. I heard the pro kit is perfect for the streets. You get that lowered look without having to worry about bottoming out & crappy roads. Thanks man, def appreciate the support.
Nice set up man. I bought my 2018 Charger RT used which was already lowered to hell. The tire is tucked into the wheel well basically (no wheel gap at all). Negative camber is visible in the rear, barely visible in the front.
I just bought the Pro Kit (1.4 x 1.2) with the shocks from Eibach so maybe this will help the negative camber some without sacrificing too much loweredness (not a real word). I run 275 40 20 all around so it shouldn’t rub at all I would think.
Let me know how it goes for you
I’d love to lower my RT. But the potholes and the train tracks would just slow me down and I’d spend most my time in a shop! 😆
Now if it came with a type of automatic adjustable leveler...was able to raise an inch or so after a certain MPH...I might go for that.
Love this content.
The roads around me are terrible as well! I don't mind it because this is not my daily driver so its not to bad.
I don’t think potholes or train tracks should impact your decision. I dropped my ‘14 Challenger using the H&R springs and the ride quality is simply amazing. Its only a little harsher than the oem springs. So if you are basing your decision solely on ride quality due to bumps the H&R are the way to go. From research on youtube the Mopar lowering springs are stiffer, The Eibach are ok but the HR offer the nicest ride.
Love my H&R springs on my Challenger
Def gives it a nice look. More aggressive stance.
@@RTLife now I'm debating on going 22s staggered or staying 20s and staggered... I like the Rohana wheels ole boy has on his destroyer grey Challenger
I have the H&R on my Challenger and its a beautiful ride. Very surprised. And the look is perfect for me.
It's amazing how much better looking a car is with less wheel gap. Gives it a more aggressive stance & look
Did u had to buy any extra parts??? Thank you
Do u scrape alot and also do u have more tire wear?
👍👍
Sounds like the mic on the phone is clogged up 😬
Yah the mic is def messed up on the phone. It's a pain in the ass!
That exhaust sounds awesome
Agreed. Def sounds great
@@RTLife now I'm stuck on which springs to get the almost similar in drop there is what a .3inch difference. Either way they both look awesome
R/T Life
Mos def!!!! on the exhaust that joint stupid!!
What size tires you both running tho?
Are they the same height?
Another great episode!
Thank you! I appreciate it.
I just got Vogtland's on my 18 Challenger Scat last week. I am waiting to see how the settle. Day 1 was about 3/4" front and 7/8" I believe they are listed as 1" front and rear.
That's not a bad drop at all.
F8Dragon where’d you get the springs from?
I installed H&R springs and I have a 2 inch drop front and back.
Man I installed the h&r with a lowering strut and I'm tucked alot more than that red charger and I dont like it would like to to sit right above the tires ...
What about some spacers (5 or 8mm)? - that will push it out a little.
@@RTLife what's your email I will send a pic
RTLifeMopar@gmail.com
@@RTLife what did u think of the spring and shocks?
did you figure out why did that happen? as I assume it should not be lowered to that point.
H&R sport for me. Anyone notice getting uneven tire wear with that negative camber?
The insides wear out so much faster.
Great video, personally not into lowering, though I would like to raise the back of my Challenger a tad though haha,
Raising that back will really give it that beefy look! Muscle car all the way. Thanks man for the support - keep on enjoying that Challenger!
I think im gonna go with prokits just to keep my rubs/scrapes to a minimum. Finally got the Voxx Demon Replicas with the 265x35 and 305x30 setup. OH... i wanted to also ask, when you swapped out your rims, did you have to have your TPMS reprogrammed? My system is throwing a tire pressure light but the pressures are reading accurate and not even close to low pressure.
Can you please do a video on the 392 with adjustable suspension I have a 2014 SRT8 392 and since I can't buy coilovers because they just a little dampening I want to know what is the best spring rate because that car already comes a lowered from the factory versus the stock Charger RT or Challenger RT
How low can you go!! NICE!!!
LOL
Love the videos 💪
Thank you - def appreciate it!
Charger number one si señor
I hear you man
Be handy if the wheels were straight!
My eibachs are 2 x 2 but they were like 8 or 900 and came with shocks too
Oh man, don't get me started on the H&R springs. They were horrible on my hellcat until I swapped them out with Eibach's. They are a LOT lower in the back on big red. I can't see how he won't rub with some passenger or luggage weight.
It really is so low - Def was surprised to hear he wasn't rubbing much. Def a big difference between the 2.
I putt hr springs 08 charger 2.0 front /rear 2.2 with 265/35/22 and no run!!!
I had the H&R springs on my 2015 RT. I loved the way it looked, but they lie about how low the drop is in the rear. It is almost 2 inches not 1.4 which made it impossible to align it. I was -3.1 degrees camber on both rear wheels. Even with camber bushings it was still -1.6 degrees camber. I wore out a set of tires in a year because of it. Took it in for an oil change and found out the inside belts were showing. Also the ride was absolutely horrible. The ride was so hard and stiff. No spring at all. Even a 15 minute ride was unbearable. I just put the Mopar stage 1 springs on my car and couldn't be happier. Yes it's not as low but so much comfortable. Eventually i'm going with coilovers.
A good set of on-car adjustable control arms would've done the trick. Glad you are happy with your current setup tho.
oem hellcat specs for rear is -1.3 and wears my tires evenly
I have hellracier reps with 315 on the rear and 275 on the front and I don’t know what drop to, get H&r or eibach I just don’t want to rub my tires
What tire and wheel set up is on the red charger?
@Red_Hemi_RT - to confirm. I believe it's 20x9 with 275's in front - 20x10 with 315's in back
Correct
@@red_gt_5.025 who's the wheel manufacturer? Very clean looking wheel!
@@lioneltorrez1289 Verde wheel's
@@red_gt_5.025 were u able to run 315 on rear without rubbing? with the h&r?
I just bought Eibach lowering springs for my S40t5. Can't seem to make up my mind about changing to heavier duty shocks. If I decide to go forward, what's a good but reasonably priced shock/strut?
After lowering have you had any issues with alignment and if so what did you do to fix?
I have a little bit of a negative camber but nothing terrible.
What is his wheel set up I got the H&R lowering springs I’m just trying to get a nice set up on my rt
So which ones would you recommend on a 2013 Audi S4. I’m running factory size wheels. Please help
can i use the h&r sport spring with my wheel set up? I have 20x9 275/40/20 in front and 20x11 315/35/20??
Kyb or monro I want to stay stock Performance but unfortunately they discontinued some of the parts for my 2010 RT so what do you recommend?
Why does everything with mopar have to be so complicated mustangs are already lowerd and u can lower them even more with no problem
Know anything about the SR Performance springs? They claim a 2" drop
What size tires are you guys running with these springs? i wanna make sure the springs i bought are not ganna b rubbing when i drop it my tires are stock
Hey rt life! I know this is an old video but will there be rub on 245/45/r20 stock wheels all around? On the stock charger rt plus rims (more aggresive looking eom rims)
No you should haven't have any issues at all
R/T Life quick question on ur shorty headers in the past did the oem gaskets work im having jba shorts put in tomorrow with stage8 bolt kit and brand new oem 5.7 gaskets will it work out good?
@r/t life huge fan btw love ur build 🤙
Hello bro.
Im runnin on EIBACH PRO KIT and i usually scratch my exhaust when i drive on a high speed bump and exhaust stand bend to touch the exhaust, did this issue happened to you guys if yes what is the solution other than takng each speed bump from an angel
with the H&R 1.7 front and 1.4 back does your charger get scraped easy?
R/T life using any of those lowering kits how much does affect the camber and what can I do to prevent damaging the tires.
I have a little bit of a negative camber - nothing to crazy but I'm not using the full footprint at the moment.
I lowered my car and my camera still show good
My scat scrapes everywhere I go I couldn’t imagine lowering it
Are after market springs an upgrade to the ones on the scat
Lmao! I'd a given her the finger back! So the cost was total 4 springs or per spring? I want to put my own springs on, I heard it's not too bad to do yourself. I really wanted to do bags but then I'd get weighted down with the equipment. I want speed and looks lol.
hahahaha - I was so surprised she gave me the finger! It was really funny
When I put my vehicle information, it states that this product is it applicable for it. I own a 2019 Dodge Charger R/T... anyway you can send me the link?
What’s the part number for the eibach sport line. Summit is being difficult.
I just checked on their website & it's not showing anymore. Something is up with their website
R/T Life also I was wondering did you have to do anything special to replace the springs? Any modifications?
The springs were a direct replacement.
Hey I have an accord sport. The wheels are 19” can I still drop it with the H&R sport springs? What size are your wheels ??
He has 20" rims - I don't think you will have any issues.
Go with the EIBACH springs. Reason. Lifetime Warranty 👍
yo RT, soo i have a 2015 dodge charger RT and i want to lower my i’ll go for them H&R! do you know what tire size his using in the rear? i have 275-40-20 soo 1.7 F and 1.4 R don’t you think the rear need to be drop a little more around 1.7 R in the H&R’s you have 1.7 in the rear his is 1.4 and it looks way dropped then yours how’s that possible haha 😂
I just installed H&R springs 50888 to my 2020 charger scat. And I’m experience creaking noise in the rear. Would you know what’s causing this
maybe from tire/wheel rubbing - hard to tell
I am going to buy the Eibach Pro Kit for my Charger. Hopefully I like it lol
You're going to like the drop
I got it on my 2020 WB scat and I have no regrets, I did my homework on H&R and they are not suitable for scat or cat to stiff and to low in the back, actually if you go to the H&R website it will guide you to recommendation.
Eibach pro kit is much more suitable for scat and cat soft and with a higher rear almost like what the factory intended not the other way around.
@@evergreenlandscaping901 I have a R/T
Sittin here with my avenger 4cyl wondering if I’m aloud to mopar fan boy or not lmao 😂 gonna buy springs anyways
Hey where did you get your front diffuser?
I got them from @FullForceCustoms on instagram
I bought my H&R Sport Springs for my charger Daytona and Scat Pack Challenger from Auto Anything and they were $242.00 so the almost 400 that you posted is wrong
Solid price you got there. But, that's the listed price so I went with it.
Ok brother,just letting you know. I actually just bought two sets. Love the stance that H&R brought to my Daytona 392 and also my challenger scat pack
How is it with road bumps and steep drive ways / hilly roads?
I haven't run into any issues so far. As long as you're cautious
R/T Life Ok sweet. Thanks brother Happy Holidays from the Bay Area!
What exhaust setup does the red charger have
Just a mid muffler delete.
Ryan please correspond my e mail so we can set up a day to do the review.
Great video as always!
I will def review that SRT-4 - let me know when you can come to Long Island NY. Get that beast up on the channel!
@@RTLife I will let you know via e mail if you have time to write back.
Ide rather not disclose the details on here.
what size are the tires on the H&R lowering springs?
he has 315's
R/T Life oh so my 275s should fit fine
should fit no problem with 275 (easily)
R/T Life yeah my biggest concern is rubbing, but if his aren’t with 315’s i feel fine with 275’s. Thanks for the help my man!
he's running 315 on the rear with the h&r?
I feel like once eibach springs became popular there quality went down could you have him tell us his bad story about eibach
One of the back springs on his RT basically cracked & failed.
I had eibach on a 350z back a few years ago and had 2 crack before going to coilovers. Now planning on dropping an srt and not sure if I wanna take the chance with them again
H&R ✔
You forgot to mention the EIBACH springs come with a lifetime warranty
Didn't know that - he should have contacted them.
which one gives a better launch??
I didn't really get a chance to test the H&R launching
So i have 315s with a 5 mm spacer do you think the wheels will still hit the fender. 20x11 in the rear
They may poke out a little but will fit.
When you buy a kit it comes with all 4 ?
yes
I got D2 Racing springs on my 2018 Daytona 5.7 woth 22" wheels. They only cost $170 shipped. They are supposed to be 1.8" Front and 2" in the back. I like the way it sits and rides. Check out my channel.
Just subbed - going to check out some of your videos tomorrow. The Daytona looks sharp (Based on the thumbnails).
Ride looks a little rough lol
I just did my H&R on my 20 R/T sits nice and rides good, scheduling an alignment cause i like my tires lol
How do u like them
@@zwalk8926 love it, stance is perfect, i get compliments everywhere i go, not to many lowered chargers like mine in south FL believe it or not
@@antoniocapilupi1225 have you had to do anything extra after installing them
@@zwalk8926 just an alignment, anytime you change the stance, i always recommend an alignment
@@antoniocapilupi1225 ok man i appreciate ur reply so just an alignment kool.
plain clothes cop cars, lmao