Chrome OS is super. But i expect that brands should launch chrome books and Chromeboxes in India at affordable price with good specs. That takes ecosystem another level.
This is awesome. Microsoft should really improve the windows experience for such budget laptops. Can't believe Asus launched a laptop that lags so much out of the box.
Nice that Google finally did what Linux users have been doing for literally decades...resurrecting old computers with great, lean Linux OS's. Not nice that they're presenting like they're the first ones to think of it.
@@keyvanalizadeh2995 the problem with linux for me is that even with any distro or light distro, browsing the web is still laggy. chrome os flex works perfectly fine on my device
As someone who’s been installing actual Chrome OS and making them run on Windows laptops for years either through Project Croissant or the Chromify script from 2013, this is really a pleasant surprise and I’m hella glad Google Finally released this after so many years of locking Chrome OS on official hardware.
@@poorvasharma9897 if you have another windows computer 1. install media creation tool for windows 10 2. flash it onto a USB drive or disc or whatever is there as an option 3. wait 4. wait 5. wait 6. flashing done, now turn off your computer 7. turn it back on and go to boot menu and boot off your USB or disc or whatever!!! if you only have the chrome os flex PC (I think these are the steps, might not work) 1. download a windows 10 iso 2. rename the .iso part to .bin 3. open the Chromebook recovery utility and choose to use a local image, and select your windows 10 file 4. wait 5. wait 6. wait 7. flashing done, now turn off your computer 8. turn it back on and go to boot menu and boot off your USB or disc or whatever!!!
I am glad Google is embracing more of Chrome OS's roots i.e. Gentoo Linux. They brought back the live boot environment, Linux app support and the ability to install it on a wide range of hardware. Masterful move from Google. I regularly use Linux, and as sad is it is to admit, it is unlikely to be the OS that rivals Microsoft's desktop OS dominance. Chrome OS has already overtaken macOS as the second largest desktop OS by market share, and with this move, they are likely to take more of the market from Microsoft.
@@pranavasaye7621 in term of desktop OS percentage market share it won’t, ever. For functionality, well, it’s awesome for some thing, terrible at others, like Windows, basically. For me the real reason I had to quit Linux is the lack of professional creative tools
@@Oxygen.O2 depends. As Google, Facebook and Microsoft become greedier over data, and as Linux develops more, people will eventually switch to Linux due to its open source nature
@@pranavasaye7621 I love Linux, but at 1% market share, I doubt it is going to happen in the next few years. I would be ecstatic if it were more popular, but we have to face reality. Chrome OS has a better chance due to it having >20% market share.
@@pranavasaye7621 Yes, linux kernel based distros are for esoteric people who are into tech fields but for an average joe I think that macOS or Windows is much easier to set up and use as a daily driver.
I took the leap and installed it on a 10 year old laptop. I don't think it ever ran this well with Windows. There are some bugs here and there, but overall, the experience has been positive.
Microsoft thinks 50000/- is perfect Pricing for Budget Laptop. Had been to market was astonished to see no one is offering anything under i3 processor under 35K Mark ..... That's too much and what's the deal off putting OS and MS office Out of box, nothing is free !!!!! Stop fooling
@@cheeragdamani8523 Just a couple of years back there were quite a lot of i3 options under 35K but as just with phones every manufacturer has bumped up their prices taking the i3 laptops to another price range.
This is such a good development for Google. Now we can bring old laptops to life and gift them to the people need them (children need laptop for online classes which chrome OS is more than enough for such tasks)
My system specs are 4gb RAM Intel celeron n3050 1.60 ghz Sata SSD Which OS is best for me , I am very confused because windows is not running well on my pc 😐 Please help me
@@maqsudalam1493 ChromeOS Flex is a good option, but if you're looking to use a lot of heavyweight apps offline. (Like full blown office processing etc), try ZorinOS, VanillaOS or Linux Mint.
I love this channel's production value. Glad that they're getting good recognition because they deserve it. Also, great video and I'll be sure to try out the ChromeOS on an old laptop
@@Ignacio.Romero Were you able to be in group chats outside of the meeting? One of my professors share links, documents and everything in a zoom group.
My friend, Your video pushed me to install Chrome OS Flex in a new stick PC I recently purchased. The device came without a Windows license and I didn't want to buy one, and it performed EXCEPTIONALLY WELL, way better than the previous Win 10 version. Thanks for the informative video. and greetins from Brazil! (I susbcribed to your channel too!)
why chrome os. you can't install most Windows apps. chrome os runs cloud apps. which can be used in windows install Linux it is lighter than chrome os. I use a 2013 laptop I do programming in it by Linux. you can't do it in chrome os .and the google privacy issue is also there. chrome os doesn't support adobe apps too. what is the need of chrome os if you have an old laptop install Linux ( preference manjaro xfce ) and support open source don't let companies like google and ms take the whole internet
Chrome os now have support of linux And using Linux u can download wine software which will help u to download windows software too So chrome os apps Windows software Linux software All in one And more over light os And crazy speed and very good for low end pc Used it for past 4 months Ever had no issue with it
I have a couple of old laptops and they run Linux. For old laptops or desktops, Linux is still the way to go. That said, I still appreciate Google for introducing Flex to consumers. These kinds of initiatives are desperately needed for minimizing e-waste and having a sustainable future. Thanks for the heads up! I'll try it out for sure! 🙌👌
@@sudipchatterjee do you think chrome os flex would be smoother on an old laptop or a lightweight linux distro? I have zorin os lite installed rn and it gets laggy sometimes. I'd try out chrome os flex but I don't wanna go through dual booting (and definitely not gonna wipe Zorin). Trying it out from usb would also be unfair since it would run on RAM and not represent actual performance.
@@dunkeykung1162 Zorin Os, even the Lite version, is not lightweight. I suggest you use Pop Os, or if you do not want to use gnome, KDE Neon. Both of them are considerably lightweight and run smoothly. Linux Mint is another great choice, but I did not use it recently. I am yet to try Flex. Since its desktop environment is heavily based on the Chrome browser, I don't think that it will be more resource-efficient than Linux. But that's just my guess. What I can tell you confidently is that Flex will NOT give you a fully mature desktop environment like Linux as it is primarily a cloud-based service. And you have to give Google a LOT of unnecessary info about yourself. I'd say you stick to Linux.
@@sudipchatterjee thing is, I actually used pop os before switching to zorin. While I love everything about it, it chugs with my hardware simply because it runs gnome. Xfce runs much better with zorin lite. I see, that's useful insight. I appreciate the help!
Already tried it and here is my review: First and foremost, Chrome OS and Chrome OS Flex are different. Chrome OS Flex is a stripped-down Chrome OS intended only for older hardware. It is based on Neverware's CloudReady platform. Linux support depends on the recentness of hardware and for most of the older hardware without a security chip, it won't work. There is absolutely no Android app support in Chrome OS Flex. Google has clearly mentioned that Android apps would be supported only on the original Chrome OS (OEM-based Chromebooks). So no Android Apps for Chrome Flex. Well, all this means that on your older hardware, this might be as useless as Windows 11 if your goal is to do some productivity tasks.
@@pawanaswal You will need another computer running regular operating systems like Windows 10/11, Mac or Linux for that. Use that Computer to create a bootable windows drive and boot up your computer from the same. You will get the installation instructions and follow that.
I have a 10 years old laptop which is super laggy and very irritating to use! After seeing this video, I installed ChromeOS Flex which is awesome! Even now, I am commenting from the "Super laggy super old ChromeOS Flex laptop". Cheers to Rupesh Sinha and Beebom team.
I'm using this on my laptop with a USB boot drive, works absolutely flawlessly. now, I can use this as a portable pc type of thing for casual usage and I can continue my work from anywhere. tried this on my old 32GB flash drive, but now, I'm considering buying 128 or 256 GB for a portable Chrome os which will work on any old pc or laptop.
@@nitinthakur6569 windows/mac is stored in your internal drive and motherboard recognise it as main drive where your OS is located. When you turn on your PC, your Motherboard boot OS from that drive. You can install any OS in any drive with rufus or similar programs to create a boot drive. Booting into bios and changing the boot drive will open any OS youve installed in the drive. Its very easy, give it a try if you have a free storage (with 90+ mb/sec speed)
Thank you for this video!! I'm a ChromeOS user, and my mom has an old HP laptop that runs as slow as a snail! I want to introduce her to ChromeOS since it's faster. Not to mention that she only uses her laptop for media consumption and online work. This is perfect! We don't have to buy a Chromebook, that's for sure
Personally I think this idea is great! I had a Chromebook about 2 months ago but it sadly got a cracked screen making it not usable. I have now switched back to a windows laptop and have noticed a major battery difference. My windows laptop had battery that didn't last very long but my Chromebook had amazing battery life. I will definitely get chrome os onto my old laptops which have even worse battery life. I personally didn't know this was possible and am very grateful that you showed this. I will definitely do this to my old windows laptops!
I have a laptop that multiboots Windows 11, ChromeOS, and Ubuntu. Windows for the most use cases, ChromeOS when I need battery life and want it to run cool, and Ubuntu because I can. It has been a great experience, and I highly recommend it if you have the technical knowledge and storage space to pull it off.
01:06 3 minutes is still better, my laptop takes 5 minutes to boot into windows 😂, That's why I use Linux. It's a nightmare to use latest windows in an older/ low end laptop.
It’s funny that Google finally decided to make this official after so many years. Apple’s transition to the arm64 silicon which enabled mobile apps on Mac computers seemed to have awakened Microsoft (Windows 11 with Android subsystem) and Google (somewhat bringing ChromeOS to unofficial devices hopefully with Android support as well). The race is on. Intel is happy!
Its crazy how much influence Apple is having these days on all the other companies! It feels like it was somewhat the other way around a few years ago!
It was always official but as "cloud ready", they just bought the company and used its technology and everything to make "chromeOS flex" and apple have nothing to do with it lmao
I have a very old Sony Vaio which originally came with Windows Vista. I installed Win 10 on it, and it ran, but pretty slow as you'd expect. Yesterday I put Chrome OS Flex on to it and it's now usable. Flex runs smoothly. So far I haven't installed any Chrome web apps, just used Chrome, Gmail, Docs etc which come with the system.
This channel is the only indian channel which talk about real tech and software.... Otherwise loads of channels think that unboxing phone is the only tech... Kudus to him... I ❤️ your video on removing bloatware from realme, xiaomi etc...
Using something like Linux Mint, Zorin OS lite or any other lightweight Distro gives the user similar performance, usability and far better feature. Chrome OS Flex is good only for those who have completely switched to browser apps. But can it run offline like other Linux distros, probably not. Imagine having to connect to internet open Documents to edit (If Google Docs works offline, cool but still Google gets to see everything which is not necessary!)
This linux users only makes like 2% of market share but are literally everywhere with there propoganda of use linux instead of windows and now chrome os I have used so many distros on my pc and laptops, all sucks! Get a life and make meaningful change rather then spreading propaganda
@@samvortex4136 I'm not a Linux user. But if users are going to install Linux apps in Chrome OS Flex by setting up a VM inside, they might as well install Linux as OS and Chrome as an browser and call it a day.
@@newstuffnsf5265 Google eco system, Works better with Android, a non toxic community that dont want all the remaining OSes to die. I am a Linux user myself, so I have my experience to speak about.
Man I was there in the early days of this channel 2 or 3 years back, before you even had your newer intro. (Which is now your outro apparently) You guys really went a long way. Cheers !
To be honest, I think that a user friendly GNU/Linux distro like Linux Mint, is better than ChromeOS even for the non-technical users. Most components there are free (as in freedom) and it is more versatile overall. I installed it on my mom's 10 y.o. netbook, and she has no trouble using it.
If you are a student who wants to buy a laptop for college, tight budget, here's an advice. Don't go for these low end devices, go to the market, look for a 4-5 years old i5 laptop, get it for 20-25k, upgrade the ram, install an ssd, install Ubuntu, and you have a budget powerhouse with you that these crappy laptops can't compete in their wildest dreams.
I have a laptop from 2008 so basically an year younger than me and around 2018 it wud still run windows 10 really well. Recently it has started to stutter and lag alot but i dont want to just toss it away due to sentimental value. Chrome OS flex has given me hope that i can revive it . Wish me luck
Ive installed chromeos itself on a windows laptop before and man the performance was just super good, everything from webrowsing to playing games from the google play store.
ChromeOS Flex is nice but I'd recommend checking brunch, it uses stock ChromeOS recovery images so it includes Google Play. Maybe Flex will include it eventually.
This was absolutely NOT an old laptop!!! ... I'm still using an MSI U100 "netbook", THIS is an old laptop!!! (with Alpine Linux if someone is interested, it is still usable for everyday surfing, mail, office, etc)
And Also there is no horrible windows experience on newly bought budget laptops, you just didn't update it. I bought Asus Vivobook and it had exactly the same problems as you quoted but under 30 mins of all the updates happening (including bios update), everything sorted and it works unbelievably smooth. It's literally the most smoothest experience I've ever had on any windows
There is no horrible windows experience on newly bought budget laptops, you just didn't update it. I bought Dell Vostro 3401 and it had exactly the same problems as you quoted but under 30 mins of all the updates happening (including bios update), everything sorted and it works unbelievably smooth. It's literally the most smoothest experience I've ever had on any windows.
I bought a cheap HP Pavilion maybe 12 years ago and it was always slowed down to a crawl even after I put 8GB ram in it (it came with 2GB). I figured out the windows update service was the culprit for the perpetual CPU overwhelm, I couldn't even play 1080p video on CZcams. Windows isn't geared towards the occasional user who might break out their laptop several times per year rather than daily.
Literally best tech content channel... talking about the new great and useful stuff is their way..hats off and keep up with the best way of providing such information 🤘
Kudos to BeeBoom team. I am planning to buy a new budget laptop as my current system is 7 years old and getting horrible in terms of performance. I saw your video and tried ChromeOS Flex. It's awesome I loved it in terms of performance and boot up time. You saves my time and money as well. Many thanks again ❤️
Comment of the decade.. "What is more interesting is how the Subscriber Button turns from Red to Grey" .. I really enjoyed it mate and now I too enjoyed the Subscribe button turning Grey in your Channel..
I have an Asus Vivobook with Intel Atom and 2 gb of ram. With chromeos flex, it is definitely a game changer for my laptop. with the lightweight gentoo kernel, I get an smooth experience unlike windows. Kudos for Google Team for this excellent piece of work!
Does Chrome OS Flex run well with only 2gb of ram? I heard it requires 4gb ram minimum. I have a 2gb ram laptop too and will try ChromeOS Flex if it is working with 2gb ram.
@@ryn1192 I do not recommend chrome os flex in 2gb of ram rn. Now that the os is updated, chromeos itself had started lagging. For 2 gb of ram, I recommend linux distros such as lubuntu etc.
Terrific review of a very important advance by Google. This has the potential to be VERY big, and will introduce many individuals and businesses to the advantages of Chrome OS vs. Windows. Thanks!
Chrome OS is a Linux derivative. Anyway a new user can find other Linux distros a little off-putting with so much choice and syntax dependence for handling issues. You take it to a local store to get it fixed, they will simply chuck a version of Windows to save both parties the hastle. I see this as a win for Linux community. May lead to better penetration towards other Linux distros for the adventurous lot and I'm all for it.
@@GaneshKumar-bv2td Yes I completely agree with you but what will prevent me from switching to it is the spooky tracking that Google will build into it. Anyways nice info. Edit - Google also makes it almost mandatory to use Chrome and makes us install a chrome extension that is only available in the Chrome Store, just to make a bootable stick.
@@maizarfanfajri8307 Linux has become very easy to install and simple to use. There are some linux distro's out there that give users customization and give you a mac or windows experience.
This is it, this will come in handy and when my family will ask me to speed up their laptops. Thank you for an amazing video bhaaiiiii. Love from Fiji 🇫🇯
the problem with chrome os flex is that it cannot be installed as dual boot on another drive like other os. i am currently waiting for windows 11 se edition
If you remove your Windows drive, you can have a drive for ChromeOS and a drive for Windows. You might need to change some BIOS settings to launch both through your computer's Boot manager
@@abhijitha.a Look up guides online on how to open your PC and then follow this: For the Flex beta install, you need to open up your computer and unplug the hard drive with Windows on it, replacing it with a new drive for the Flex install, after that put the Windows drive back and you’ll have both to boot from (you’ll need external adapters if you’re using a laptop). If this sounds daunting, just go with CloudReady (the old version) it lets you run it off a USB stick.
Woah. Thank you so much for this video. I was looking for a lightweight os to run on dumb pentium laptop, and I already tried Tiny10, but it was limited.
Tried out everything a year ago on my 10 year old dell Inspiron. Chromium OS was good but linux was much better. For me it was the MX linux. Yes if Google allows the usual Android apps to install in chromium or flex then it will pretty much leave windows irrelevant. But sadly that won't happen. Google won't do that.
Only issue with ChromeOS laptops is that they have very little compatibility with today''s software. So if you want to install adobe software or others, its pretty much impossible.
I tried dualbooting ChromeOS and Windows and the experience was terrible, until I switched over to Zorin OS which is just buttery smooth on a 10 year old laptop.
I'd still recommend a Linux distro, probably some Ubuntu derivates, but never chrome os for the fact that it's google, and you have no privacy, and the overall experience on Linux is way better
I was also using Intel Celeron N4000 laptop for last 2 years, and even upgraded it with an 8 GB RAM Stick, but still if felt really laggy, but when I switched to 11 Gen i5-11300H it really felt super smooth, and now my laptop boots in just 3 secs 😍
Just install Linux (I prefer arch based distros, but I recommend debian based distros like pop os or Ubuntu if it's your first time) and you get all advantages you mentioned from chromeos flex, plus way better application support since chromeos flex doesn't support android apps and Linux applications don't work all the time on chrome OS.
@@apostleofyeshua4548 the Windows "app" is just a clone of Web version of WhatsApp which works perfectly fine on any desktop browser on any operating system (fact) 🤣
@@apostleofyeshua4548 also unofficial clients of WhatsApp web for linux, based on election (exact same functionality as whatsapp windows "app") do exist on Arch user repository
About the 100% CPU when opening Task Manager: that's just because Task Manager uses a system interrupt. The experience doesn't seem as bad as you made it sound. That laptop is going to be perfectly fine with an SSD; no need for Chrome OS.
@@Atulnavadiya Unless Chrome OS Flex gets Android app support it's very meh. I'd just go with Arch if I had to choose an OS that's not Windows. Chrome OS is way too restrictive and locked down imo.
I use a laptop that I bought a few months ago. Specs are intel core i3 11th gen and 8gb ram and a ssd. I dual boot windows 11 and Linux. It is barely usable when I boot Windows 11. Cpu usage is always around 70 to 90 % and more than 4 gb ram is used. I can barely open an app or two. Also I do video editing. Video render times are very slow. The same video renders almost 2x faster on Linux. And I can open like 5 to 10 apps at the same time and still have a smooth experience. So even having a decent computer gives the same bad experience on windows
@@youtube.user.1234 The CPU usage is supposed to settle down in a few minutes (my laptop idles at 2-3%), and as for RAM: that's just caching; Windows frees up the RAM if needed. Are you sure your laptop isn't running extra software in the background (perhaps from the manufacturer)?
i also wanted to say, if you have a problem with the restrictions of chromeOS, and you still want a Windows-like experience, you can also try out a light-weight install of Linux like Mint or Bodhi. I have a Celeron laptop as a secondary, and have installed Linux on it. It works great! And, I have not encountered any problems whatsoever.
When my old Intel MacBook from early 2016 finally loses support from Apple, I’m gonna put this on it in place of MacOS. It’s been getting a little slow in recent years (especially when I needed it for high school in 2020; it worked but was extremely slow when multitasking), and I don’t have anywhere _near_ enough money for a new one, so it’s about time it got a second life. They said this works on Macs as well, so it’ll be fun testing it out and seeing if it really does work as well as Google says. P.S. My school’s whole system ran on Google, so if they had pushed this out sooner, remote learning would have been so much smoother!
I have an old 2GB RAM ASUS netbook with Windows pre-installed, which never works. Therefore, I replaced it with Linux Lite and now it works fine. I doubt Chrome OS is not supported by this machine as the minimum requirement itself is 4GB of RAM. Guys, if anyone has an even more basic system like mine, try Linux Lite, it's a really amazing OS and it has all the necessary applications.
We bought a hp stream for my younger sibling and within a month a windows update had used all of the storage and was completely useless excited to install this and give it a go
2:44 Just 'cause the system estimates better battery life doesn't mean it actually is, they're almost never accurate regardless of the OS. It would've been cool to see and actual battery test (100% to shutdown) comparison between the two OSs
What do you guys think of the ChromeOS Flex experience on old laptops? 🤔
Can I install in my cromebook?
Best for newbies or naive user's. For experienced users I will still prefer installing linux distro which consumed less resources
Possible to install on a desktop?
@@Ajay16874 yeah you can install chrome os in your chromebook??!!!🤯
Chrome OS is super. But i expect that brands should launch chrome books and Chromeboxes in India at affordable price with good specs. That takes ecosystem another level.
This is the type of content we expect from Beebom... Kudos team, Keep it up!
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This is awesome. Microsoft should really improve the windows experience for such budget laptops. Can't believe Asus launched a laptop that lags so much out of the box.
No, they should install windows 7 or 10. That's macOS big sur and above don't run on old hardware
With new features like virtualization, improved UI it's unlikely to improve the windows experience in budget segment
@@obvinpro newer motherbroads in laptop does not supports anything under win 10 brother
It's about the HDD, not Windows. This laptop is capable enough of running Windows 11 with an SSD upgrade.
Need to make a Windows XP Flex. 💪
Nice that Google finally did what Linux users have been doing for literally decades...resurrecting old computers with great, lean Linux OS's.
Not nice that they're presenting like they're the first ones to think of it.
Ikr, what a joke…
And unlike chromeOS, you get a full-fledged, fully functional, and modern OS with Linux.
Actually, Google has been running Linux internally for many year. Goobuntu was their first build but apparently have moved to Debian now.
@@keyvanalizadeh2995 the problem with linux for me is that even with any distro or light distro, browsing the web is still laggy. chrome os flex works perfectly fine on my device
@@ad1340yt There might be a problem with hardware acceleration on your device
As someone who’s been installing actual Chrome OS and making them run on Windows laptops for years either through Project Croissant or the Chromify script from 2013, this is really a pleasant surprise and I’m hella glad Google Finally released this after so many years of locking Chrome OS on official hardware.
what if i want to switch back to Windows after installing chromeOS?
@@poorvasharma9897 if you have another windows computer
1. install media creation tool for windows 10
2. flash it onto a USB drive or disc or whatever is there as an option
3. wait
4. wait
5. wait
6. flashing done, now turn off your computer
7. turn it back on and go to boot menu and boot off your USB or disc or whatever!!!
if you only have the chrome os flex PC (I think these are the steps, might not work)
1. download a windows 10 iso
2. rename the .iso part to .bin
3. open the Chromebook recovery utility and choose to use a local image, and select your windows 10 file
4. wait
5. wait
6. wait
7. flashing done, now turn off your computer
8. turn it back on and go to boot menu and boot off your USB or disc or whatever!!!
I am glad Google is embracing more of Chrome OS's roots i.e. Gentoo Linux. They brought back the live boot environment, Linux app support and the ability to install it on a wide range of hardware. Masterful move from Google. I regularly use Linux, and as sad is it is to admit, it is unlikely to be the OS that rivals Microsoft's desktop OS dominance. Chrome OS has already overtaken macOS as the second largest desktop OS by market share, and with this move, they are likely to take more of the market from Microsoft.
Linux is unlikely to rival windows? Tf?
@@pranavasaye7621 in term of desktop OS percentage market share it won’t, ever. For functionality, well, it’s awesome for some thing, terrible at others, like Windows, basically. For me the real reason I had to quit Linux is the lack of professional creative tools
@@Oxygen.O2 depends. As Google, Facebook and Microsoft become greedier over data, and as Linux develops more, people will eventually switch to Linux due to its open source nature
@@pranavasaye7621 I love Linux, but at 1% market share, I doubt it is going to happen in the next few years. I would be ecstatic if it were more popular, but we have to face reality. Chrome OS has a better chance due to it having >20% market share.
@@pranavasaye7621 Yes, linux kernel based distros are for esoteric people who are into tech fields but for an average joe I think that macOS or Windows is much easier to set up and use as a daily driver.
I took the leap and installed it on a 10 year old laptop. I don't think it ever ran this well with Windows. There are some bugs here and there, but overall, the experience has been positive.
Agree
I have similar laptop with a bit older celeron processor, swapped the hdd with an ssd and installed Linux Mint Cinnamon on it, runs flawlessly.
for a non-power user chromeos is just perfect, microsoft ditching older hardware for w11 and google releasing chrome os flex makes perfect sense
Microsoft thinks 50000/- is perfect Pricing for Budget Laptop. Had been to market was astonished to see no one is offering anything under i3 processor under 35K Mark ..... That's too much and what's the deal off putting OS and MS office Out of box, nothing is free !!!!! Stop fooling
ZorinOS is even better imo
@@cheeragdamani8523 is costly because while buying laptop you also by windows license and ms office
@@cheeragdamani8523 Just a couple of years back there were quite a lot of i3 options under 35K but as just with phones every manufacturer has bumped up their prices taking the i3 laptops to another price range.
Its really impressive how well that runs on the laptop hardware. Could bring new life to older desktops too. I can see why schools like chrome os
This is such a good development for Google. Now we can bring old laptops to life and gift them to the people need them (children need laptop for online classes which chrome OS is more than enough for such tasks)
This is great! Thanks for sharing. Although in my experience, Linux Mint can be a genuine powerful second life upgrade for older laptops.
What about arch Linux??
My system specs are
4gb RAM
Intel celeron n3050 1.60 ghz
Sata SSD
Which OS is best for me , I am very confused because windows is not running well on my pc 😐
Please help me
@@maqsudalam1493 ChromeOS Flex is a good option, but if you're looking to use a lot of heavyweight apps offline. (Like full blown office processing etc), try ZorinOS, VanillaOS or Linux Mint.
I love this channel's production value. Glad that they're getting good recognition because they deserve it. Also, great video and I'll be sure to try out the ChromeOS on an old laptop
Chrome OS is really good for old laptops. I dual booted Chrome OS 96 on a 6y old laptop and it runs really smoothly. 👍👍
Are there any specific conditions under which it won't work on a particular laptop?
@@ashutoshbajpai3 Yeah, I think your cpu has to be intel 3rd gen or higher
@@ashutoshbajpai3 The old version (CloudReady) works fine on older systems, Flex is the beta build for Google's revamp of CloudReady
@@vinurademel nah, it works on basically everything made from ~2008 to today, only Intel GMA950 and some other Intel IGPUs aren't supported 😄
You must try Zorin OS in it. You'll like it...
Loved and cloud ready and now this is the best thing Google has done ✔️
Also your presentation from old beebom to this one was fantastic 👏
That subscribe transition really got me 😂
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You HAVE to use the linux support to install zoom, because the zoom chromeos has cannot use group functions, and many other things are lacking
I've used group in zoom many times with no problems
@@Ignacio.Romero Were you able to be in group chats outside of the meeting? One of my professors share links, documents and everything in a zoom group.
What's even more more impressive is for me the subscribe button turned from grey to red ❤️
I love how beebom liked your comment for unsubscribing
@@kartikchopra4100 IKR
My friend,
Your video pushed me to install Chrome OS Flex in a new stick PC I recently purchased. The device came without a Windows license and I didn't want to buy one, and it performed EXCEPTIONALLY WELL, way better than the previous Win 10 version. Thanks for the informative video. and greetins from Brazil! (I susbcribed to your channel too!)
why chrome os. you can't install most Windows apps. chrome os runs cloud apps. which can be used in windows install Linux it is lighter than chrome os. I use a 2013 laptop I do programming in it by Linux. you can't do it in chrome os .and the google privacy issue is also there. chrome os doesn't support adobe apps too. what is the need of chrome os if you have an old laptop install Linux ( preference manjaro xfce ) and support open source don't let companies like google and ms take the whole internet
Chrome os now have support of linux
And using Linux u can download wine software which will help u to download windows software too
So chrome os apps
Windows software
Linux software
All in one
And more over light os
And crazy speed and very good for low end pc
Used it for past 4 months
Ever had no issue with it
@@Study-wy1qm can we use microsoft word like stuff
@@Study-wy1qm shifting to windows to chrome os does wipe the whole data or not please reply 😢
@@TanmayShakya124 it wipes all data
I have a couple of old laptops and they run Linux. For old laptops or desktops, Linux is still the way to go. That said, I still appreciate Google for introducing Flex to consumers. These kinds of initiatives are desperately needed for minimizing e-waste and having a sustainable future.
Thanks for the heads up! I'll try it out for sure! 🙌👌
Chrome os is based on Linux.
@@thetechrealist Yes. But it is not open-source.
@@sudipchatterjee do you think chrome os flex would be smoother on an old laptop or a lightweight linux distro? I have zorin os lite installed rn and it gets laggy sometimes. I'd try out chrome os flex but I don't wanna go through dual booting (and definitely not gonna wipe Zorin). Trying it out from usb would also be unfair since it would run on RAM and not represent actual performance.
@@dunkeykung1162 Zorin Os, even the Lite version, is not lightweight. I suggest you use Pop Os, or if you do not want to use gnome, KDE Neon. Both of them are considerably lightweight and run smoothly. Linux Mint is another great choice, but I did not use it recently.
I am yet to try Flex. Since its desktop environment is heavily based on the Chrome browser, I don't think that it will be more resource-efficient than Linux. But that's just my guess. What I can tell you confidently is that Flex will NOT give you a fully mature desktop environment like Linux as it is primarily a cloud-based service. And you have to give Google a LOT of unnecessary info about yourself. I'd say you stick to Linux.
@@sudipchatterjee thing is, I actually used pop os before switching to zorin. While I love everything about it, it chugs with my hardware simply because it runs gnome. Xfce runs much better with zorin lite.
I see, that's useful insight. I appreciate the help!
Already tried it and here is my review: First and foremost, Chrome OS and Chrome OS Flex are different. Chrome OS Flex is a stripped-down Chrome OS intended only for older hardware. It is based on Neverware's CloudReady platform. Linux support depends on the recentness of hardware and for most of the older hardware without a security chip, it won't work. There is absolutely no Android app support in Chrome OS Flex. Google has clearly mentioned that Android apps would be supported only on the original Chrome OS (OEM-based Chromebooks). So no Android Apps for Chrome Flex. Well, all this means that on your older hardware, this might be as useless as Windows 11 if your goal is to do some productivity tasks.
How can I install back windows 10 from Chrome os ?
@@pawanaswal You will need another computer running regular operating systems like Windows 10/11, Mac or Linux for that. Use that Computer to create a bootable windows drive and boot up your computer from the same. You will get the installation instructions and follow that.
@@shubhamupadhyay844 They didnt
I liked the way you talked about the subscribe button , really smooth 🔥
I have a 10 years old laptop which is super laggy and very irritating to use! After seeing this video, I installed ChromeOS Flex which is awesome! Even now, I am commenting from the "Super laggy super old ChromeOS Flex laptop". Cheers to Rupesh Sinha and Beebom team.
does it lag now??
I'm using this on my laptop with a USB boot drive, works absolutely flawlessly.
now, I can use this as a portable pc type of thing for casual usage and I can continue my work from anywhere.
tried this on my old 32GB flash drive, but now, I'm considering buying 128 or 256 GB for a portable Chrome os which will work on any old pc or laptop.
Whats USB boot drive? Can you please explain
@@nitinthakur6569 windows/mac is stored in your internal drive and motherboard recognise it as main drive where your OS is located. When you turn on your PC, your Motherboard boot OS from that drive.
You can install any OS in any drive with rufus or similar programs to create a boot drive.
Booting into bios and changing the boot drive will open any OS youve installed in the drive.
Its very easy, give it a try if you have a free storage (with 90+ mb/sec speed)
Thank you for this video!! I'm a ChromeOS user, and my mom has an old HP laptop that runs as slow as a snail! I want to introduce her to ChromeOS since it's faster. Not to mention that she only uses her laptop for media consumption and online work. This is perfect! We don't have to buy a Chromebook, that's for sure
Personally I think this idea is great! I had a Chromebook about 2 months ago but it sadly got a cracked screen making it not usable. I have now switched back to a windows laptop and have noticed a major battery difference. My windows laptop had battery that didn't last very long but my Chromebook had amazing battery life. I will definitely get chrome os onto my old laptops which have even worse battery life. I personally didn't know this was possible and am very grateful that you showed this. I will definitely do this to my old windows laptops!
I have a laptop that multiboots Windows 11, ChromeOS, and Ubuntu. Windows for the most use cases, ChromeOS when I need battery life and want it to run cool, and Ubuntu because I can. It has been a great experience, and I highly recommend it if you have the technical knowledge and storage space to pull it off.
You always come up with these amazing videos Rupesh...hats off to you. Keep up the good honest work..going to share this with my buddies for sure 😉
01:06 3 minutes is still better, my laptop takes 5 minutes to boot into windows 😂, That's why I use Linux. It's a nightmare to use latest windows in an older/ low end laptop.
It’s funny that Google finally decided to make this official after so many years. Apple’s transition to the arm64 silicon which enabled mobile apps on Mac computers seemed to have awakened Microsoft (Windows 11 with Android subsystem) and Google (somewhat bringing ChromeOS to unofficial devices hopefully with Android support as well). The race is on. Intel is happy!
Its crazy how much influence Apple is having these days on all the other companies! It feels like it was somewhat the other way around a few years ago!
It was always official but as "cloud ready", they just bought the company and used its technology and everything to make "chromeOS flex" and apple have nothing to do with it lmao
@@lolcatpl why do you think they bought CloudReady as a matter of fact?
@@NontaCoulibaly so older computers can still have updates even after win10 stops getting them in 2025.
@@lolcatpl did you know that the 7 years old MacBook Pro (2015) is still getting software upgrades from Apple in 2022?
I have a very old Sony Vaio which originally came with Windows Vista. I installed Win 10 on it, and it ran, but pretty slow as you'd expect. Yesterday I put Chrome OS Flex on to it and it's now usable. Flex runs smoothly. So far I haven't installed any Chrome web apps, just used Chrome, Gmail, Docs etc which come with the system.
This channel is amazing. Love you guys content!!! Cheers from Brazil!
Just imagine how will the laptop run if it's being upgraded with an SSD✌️
In that case even the windows will also perform much better
@@adityayadav6712 😂
ssd will just make opening the apps and boot a lot faster, but the slow processors and ram will still be a pain in the right foot pinky
Changing that 1TB HDD to an SSD can also make your old laptop behave like a new one including increasing battery life amazingly.
No
It would speed up the Boot time and app launch time considerably but not the battery life.
@@avigalelimbu9442 Yes
This channel is the only indian channel which talk about real tech and software.... Otherwise loads of channels think that unboxing phone is the only tech... Kudus to him...
I ❤️ your video on removing bloatware from realme, xiaomi etc...
Using something like Linux Mint, Zorin OS lite or any other lightweight Distro gives the user similar performance, usability and far better feature. Chrome OS Flex is good only for those who have completely switched to browser apps. But can it run offline like other Linux distros, probably not. Imagine having to connect to internet open Documents to edit (If Google Docs works offline, cool but still Google gets to see everything which is not necessary!)
🔥
You can install linux apps. I can edit documents off-line with google docs web app
bro thing is
when was the last time you were not connected to internet when doing your work?
This linux users only makes like 2% of market share but are literally everywhere with there propoganda of use linux instead of windows and now chrome os
I have used so many distros on my pc and laptops, all sucks!
Get a life and make meaningful change rather then spreading propaganda
@@samvortex4136 I'm not a Linux user. But if users are going to install Linux apps in Chrome OS Flex by setting up a VM inside, they might as well install Linux as OS and Chrome as an browser and call it a day.
Chrome OS: breathes life into old laptops
Linux: hold my beer
But Linux is not for everyone.
@@ravitejaknts there are many user friendly distros
@@ravitejaknts what can Chrome OS do that any other Linux distribution can't?
Microsoft - If you have Money you can Buy Me
@@newstuffnsf5265 Google eco system, Works better with Android, a non toxic community that dont want all the remaining OSes to die. I am a Linux user myself, so I have my experience to speak about.
Man I was there in the early days of this channel 2 or 3 years back, before you even had your newer intro. (Which is now your outro apparently)
You guys really went a long way. Cheers !
To be honest, I think that a user friendly GNU/Linux distro like Linux Mint, is better than ChromeOS even for the non-technical users. Most components there are free (as in freedom) and it is more versatile overall. I installed it on my mom's 10 y.o. netbook, and she has no trouble using it.
If you are a student who wants to buy a laptop for college, tight budget, here's an advice.
Don't go for these low end devices, go to the market, look for a 4-5 years old i5 laptop, get it for 20-25k, upgrade the ram, install an ssd, install Ubuntu, and you have a budget powerhouse with you that these crappy laptops can't compete in their wildest dreams.
You guys really know STUFF !! - I loved your detailed content !! - Specially on ChromeOS
I have a laptop from 2008 so basically an year younger than me and around 2018 it wud still run windows 10 really well. Recently it has started to stutter and lag alot but i dont want to just toss it away due to sentimental value. Chrome OS flex has given me hope that i can revive it . Wish me luck
Well done 👏 you talk about stuff that even big reviews on CZcams don't
If chrome os start providing Android support apps it will be boom 🤯
Just install Linux and be done with it.
Yes. Many Linux distros are better than this
Ive installed chromeos itself on a windows laptop before and man the performance was just super good, everything from webrowsing to playing games from the google play store.
ChromeOS Flex is nice but I'd recommend checking brunch, it uses stock ChromeOS recovery images so it includes Google Play. Maybe Flex will include it eventually.
thinking of making this as os for my 9 year old laptop on its 10th year anniversary next year🤣
Same hare yaar😂
A nice gift for your laptops anniversary...
This was absolutely NOT an old laptop!!! ... I'm still using an MSI U100 "netbook", THIS is an old laptop!!! (with Alpine Linux if someone is interested, it is still usable for everyday surfing, mail, office, etc)
And Also there is no horrible windows experience on newly bought budget laptops, you just didn't update it. I bought Asus Vivobook and it had exactly the same problems as you quoted but under 30 mins of all the updates happening (including bios update), everything sorted and it works unbelievably smooth. It's literally the most smoothest experience I've ever had on any windows
There is no horrible windows experience on newly bought budget laptops, you just didn't update it. I bought Dell Vostro 3401 and it had exactly the same problems as you quoted but under 30 mins of all the updates happening (including bios update), everything sorted and it works unbelievably smooth. It's literally the most smoothest experience I've ever had on any windows.
Yes Of course , but they won`t understand it
I bought a cheap HP Pavilion maybe 12 years ago and it was always slowed down to a crawl even after I put 8GB ram in it (it came with 2GB).
I figured out the windows update service was the culprit for the perpetual CPU overwhelm, I couldn't even play 1080p video on CZcams.
Windows isn't geared towards the occasional user who might break out their laptop several times per year rather than daily.
Literally best tech content channel... talking about the new great and useful stuff is their way..hats off and keep up with the best way of providing such information 🤘
Kudos to BeeBoom team. I am planning to buy a new budget laptop as my current system is 7 years old and getting horrible in terms of performance. I saw your video and tried ChromeOS Flex. It's awesome I loved it in terms of performance and boot up time. You saves my time and money as well. Many thanks again ❤️
Comment of the decade.. "What is more interesting is how the Subscriber Button turns from Red to Grey" .. I really enjoyed it mate and now I too enjoyed the Subscribe button turning Grey in your Channel..
I have an Asus Vivobook with Intel Atom and 2 gb of ram. With chromeos flex, it is definitely a game changer for my laptop. with the lightweight gentoo kernel, I get an smooth experience unlike windows. Kudos for Google Team for this excellent piece of work!
Does Chrome OS Flex run well with only 2gb of ram? I heard it requires 4gb ram minimum. I have a 2gb ram laptop too and will try ChromeOS Flex if it is working with 2gb ram.
@@ryn1192 I do not recommend chrome os flex in 2gb of ram rn. Now that the os is updated, chromeos itself had started lagging. For 2 gb of ram, I recommend linux distros such as lubuntu etc.
@@siddharth19019 can i install in my 8 gb ram dual core 4th gen pc 500gb hdd ???
@@bittu8896 Ofc you can.
Please make a video about full installation of Chrome OS.
Terrific review of a very important advance by Google. This has the potential to be VERY big, and will introduce many individuals and businesses to the advantages of Chrome OS vs. Windows. Thanks!
It was really time that Chrome OS finally goes full public soon enough. Many people will find it useful.
I think Linux still makes more sense at this point but still great initiative by Google.
Chrome OS is a Linux derivative. Anyway a new user can find other Linux distros a little off-putting with so much choice and syntax dependence for handling issues. You take it to a local store to get it fixed, they will simply chuck a version of Windows to save both parties the hastle. I see this as a win for Linux community. May lead to better penetration towards other Linux distros for the adventurous lot and I'm all for it.
@@GaneshKumar-bv2td See ZorinOS, my cousin has no issue using it. Not tech savvy at all
@@galactustales being tech savvy, I still look to switch to zorin os because of the polished ui. Will miss my customisation tho.
@@GaneshKumar-bv2td Yes I completely agree with you but what will prevent me from switching to it is the spooky tracking that Google will build into it. Anyways nice info.
Edit - Google also makes it almost mandatory to use Chrome and makes us install a chrome extension that is only available in the Chrome Store, just to make a bootable stick.
Like others mentioned, Linux would just be a better option. There are a lot of distros geared towards old and low-end hardware.
stop saying linux is better, not every end user understand how to operate linux
@@maizarfanfajri8307 Linux has become very easy to install and simple to use. There are some linux distro's out there that give users customization and give you a mac or windows experience.
@@maizarfanfajri8307 chrome OS _is_ Linux
This is it, this will come in handy and when my family will ask me to speed up their laptops. Thank you for an amazing video bhaaiiiii. Love from Fiji 🇫🇯
You should have highlighted how the drivers are picked up and what are the positive and negative of user experience of chrome and windows OS
the problem with chrome os flex is that it cannot be installed as dual boot on another drive like other os.
i am currently waiting for windows 11 se edition
Dual boot with linux then
If you remove your Windows drive, you can have a drive for ChromeOS and a drive for Windows. You might need to change some BIOS settings to launch both through your computer's Boot manager
how to remove windows drive
@@abhijitha.a Look up guides online on how to open your PC and then follow this:
For the Flex beta install, you need to open up your computer and unplug the hard drive with Windows on it, replacing it with a new drive for the Flex install, after that put the Windows drive back and you’ll have both to boot from (you’ll need external adapters if you’re using a laptop).
If this sounds daunting, just go with CloudReady (the old version) it lets you run it off a USB stick.
@@amirpourghoureiyan1637 yeah... no, I'll stick with Arch Linux, way easier to dual boot if I ever want to
ChromeOS is definitely a great replacement to Windows, but my computer is Mid-range so my computer runs Windows 11 buttery smooth.
“the subscribe button turns from red to grey” 😂
Woah. Thank you so much for this video. I was looking for a lightweight os to run on dumb pentium laptop, and I already tried Tiny10, but it was limited.
Tried out everything a year ago on my 10 year old dell Inspiron. Chromium OS was good but linux was much better. For me it was the MX linux. Yes if Google allows the usual Android apps to install in chromium or flex then it will pretty much leave windows irrelevant. But sadly that won't happen. Google won't do that.
This video is such a life saver. You guys rock and absolutely do work of God level when it comes to tech stuff. You rock, Man!
I never regret to found this channel years ago
Only issue with ChromeOS laptops is that they have very little compatibility with today''s software. So if you want to install adobe software or others, its pretty much impossible.
I tried dualbooting ChromeOS and Windows and the experience was terrible, until I switched over to Zorin OS which is just buttery smooth on a 10 year old laptop.
Great! The zorin team has created something really special
cant install whatsapp video calling feature on zorin os
I just wish we could run Windows 7 on these old laptops. Believe me Windows 7 was still damn fast on HDD last time I checked it.
Try 8.1 - it's still decent on a HDD
Thanks for the video beebom, my old hp laptop was totally unusable.
Now I can install chrome OS on that and use it again.
Thanks man very helpful. Will try this in my old laptop
I'd still recommend a Linux distro, probably some Ubuntu derivates, but never chrome os for the fact that it's google, and you have no privacy, and the overall experience on Linux is way better
Yeah zorinOS
Can it be made to work as dual boot? I don't want to lose my windows because of specific apps
can it
@@abhijitha.a thanks
I was also using Intel Celeron N4000 laptop for last 2 years, and even upgraded it with an 8 GB RAM Stick, but still if felt really laggy, but when I switched to 11 Gen i5-11300H it really felt super smooth, and now my laptop boots in just 3 secs 😍
You upgraded the processor?
@@saadmasroor1933 No, actually I bought a new laptop 😁
@@arnavgarg2466 Hey bro... can i ask what laptop did you buy?
@@user-nl2vj5ip3n It's Lenovo IdeaPad Gaming 3i Gen 6
love the way to make us subscribe it made me subscribe and hit like immediately 😂👍
Just install Linux (I prefer arch based distros, but I recommend debian based distros like pop os or Ubuntu if it's your first time) and you get all advantages you mentioned from chromeos flex, plus way better application support since chromeos flex doesn't support android apps and Linux applications don't work all the time on chrome OS.
can't install whatsapp app with video and voice call feature on any linux distro. (fact)
@@apostleofyeshua4548 the Windows "app" is just a clone of Web version of WhatsApp which works perfectly fine on any desktop browser on any operating system (fact) 🤣
@@apostleofyeshua4548 also unofficial clients of WhatsApp web for linux, based on election (exact same functionality as whatsapp windows "app") do exist on Arch user repository
@@slay3rgamingyt It's not the app that won't install, it's the feature of video and voice that's taken out from the desktop app
About the 100% CPU when opening Task Manager: that's just because Task Manager uses a system interrupt. The experience doesn't seem as bad as you made it sound.
That laptop is going to be perfectly fine with an SSD; no need for Chrome OS.
& imagine chrome os on the same ssd. 😏
@@Atulnavadiya Unless Chrome OS Flex gets Android app support it's very meh. I'd just go with Arch if I had to choose an OS that's not Windows. Chrome OS is way too restrictive and locked down imo.
I use a laptop that I bought a few months ago. Specs are intel core i3 11th gen and 8gb ram and a ssd. I dual boot windows 11 and Linux. It is barely usable when I boot Windows 11. Cpu usage is always around 70 to 90 % and more than 4 gb ram is used. I can barely open an app or two. Also I do video editing. Video render times are very slow. The same video renders almost 2x faster on Linux. And I can open like 5 to 10 apps at the same time and still have a smooth experience. So even having a decent computer gives the same bad experience on windows
@@youtube.user.1234 The CPU usage is supposed to settle down in a few minutes (my laptop idles at 2-3%), and as for RAM: that's just caching; Windows frees up the RAM if needed. Are you sure your laptop isn't running extra software in the background (perhaps from the manufacturer)?
@@kanishkachakraborty the cpu usage settles to 50 to 60 % lol and no it’s only many windows processes running
I would suggest to upgrade it with SSD and update once, to all new windows update and then disabling update. It would be more useful.
Installed Chrome OS using brunch on an old surface pro 3, works nicely apart from the screen not auto rotating
Exactly what we wanna see from Beebom... Kudos team 🎉we want more of these
I'm using this and performance is great
Almost 2 years. No problem at all. Love it
I have done exactly what you suggest. ChromeOS Flex is great and at the RIGHT price.
Dudeeeee, just downgrade it to win 10, its running faster on windows 10
Worth it. I tried it on an old Toshiba laptop; runs FIRE now
Thankyou for this, My Experience with windows have been real shitty for the past 5 years. Its good to know that theres an option available now.
i also wanted to say, if you have a problem with the restrictions of chromeOS, and you still want a Windows-like experience, you can also try out a light-weight install of Linux like Mint or Bodhi. I have a Celeron laptop as a secondary, and have installed Linux on it. It works great! And, I have not encountered any problems whatsoever.
cant do whatsapp video call app on linux mint
When my old Intel MacBook from early 2016 finally loses support from Apple, I’m gonna put this on it in place of MacOS. It’s been getting a little slow in recent years (especially when I needed it for high school in 2020; it worked but was extremely slow when multitasking), and I don’t have anywhere _near_ enough money for a new one, so it’s about time it got a second life. They said this works on Macs as well, so it’ll be fun testing it out and seeing if it really does work as well as Google says.
P.S. My school’s whole system ran on Google, so if they had pushed this out sooner, remote learning would have been so much smoother!
Linux is the way to go in old, budget laptops and computer. All the sweet features without Google's garbage
Thanks for a great video. You just saved two of my old laptops
I have an old 2GB RAM ASUS netbook with Windows pre-installed, which never works. Therefore, I replaced it with Linux Lite and now it works fine. I doubt Chrome OS is not supported by this machine as the minimum requirement itself is 4GB of RAM.
Guys, if anyone has an even more basic system like mine, try Linux Lite, it's a really amazing OS and it has all the necessary applications.
Naa, you really got me on the subscribe button thing. 😂
"No Android support" is also a feature.
We bought a hp stream for my younger sibling and within a month a windows update had used all of the storage and was completely useless excited to install this and give it a go
Very informative and helpful Video. Thank you
2:44 Just 'cause the system estimates better battery life doesn't mean it actually is, they're almost never accurate regardless of the OS. It would've been cool to see and actual battery test (100% to shutdown) comparison between the two OSs