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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- Yusuf Ponders speaks to Stanley, a friendly Christian who came by the dawah table about God, Jesus and the Trinity.
00:00:00- Yusuf meets Stanley the Christian
00:00:55 - What did Jesus believe?
00:02:26 - Why do you trust the bible?
00:03:25 - When Yusuf reverted to Islam
00:04:20 - The nature of Jesus and nature of God
00:05:08 - Stanley’s failed attempt of rebuttal
00:06:08 - Jesus is God and not God confusion
00:06:52 - The Devil tempts Jesus problem for Christians
00:08:53 - Jesus not God on earth problem for Christians
00:09:07 - Yusuf catches Stanley’s contradiction
00:10:39 - I and the Father are One problem for Christians
00:13:29 - Some reasons why the Bible is unreliable
00:13:50 - Did Judas accept or refuse the bribe? Bible Contradiction
00:19:52 - Stanley wants the problematic bible verses to study
00:21:01 - Yusuf and Stanley exchange numbers
00:21:51 - Christian scholarship admits the bible has been tampered with
00:22:10 the development of the Christian doctrine problem for Christians
00:23:49 - Stanley gets confused about the nature of Jesus - again
00:24:25 - Stanley wants to study the contradictions in the bible
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00:00:00- Yusuf meets Stanley the Christian
00:00:55 - What did Jesus believe?
00:02:26 - Why do you trust the bible?
00:03:25 - When Yusuf reverted to Islam
00:04:20 - The nature of Jesus and nature of God
00:05:08 - Stanley’s failed attempt of rebuttal
00:06:08 - Jesus is God and not God confusion
00:06:52 - The Devil tempts Jesus problem for Christians
00:08:53 - Jesus not God on earth problem for Christians
00:09:07 - Yusuf catches Stanley’s contradiction
00:10:39 - I and the Father are One problem for Christians
00:13:29 - Some reasons why the Bible is unreliable
00:13:50 - Did Judas accept or refuse the bribe? Bible Contradiction
00:19:52 - Stanley wants the problematic bible verses to study
00:21:01 - Yusuf and Stanley exchange numbers
00:21:51 - Christian scholarship admits the bible has been tampered with
00:22:10 the development of the Christian doctrine problem for Christians
00:23:49 - Stanley gets confused about the nature of Jesus - again
00:24:25 - Stanley wants to study the contradictions in the bible
salam ,good to see Yusuf up and about doing street dawah,,and obviously dawah digital for having quality recording.
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Really good cameras, editing and sound
Thank you جزاكم ﷲ خيرا
May Allah swt reward you brothers 🤲🏻
آمين
Dear brother Yusuf Allah bless you you are doing great work on this planet and we love you
Bless you brother yusif 🤲🤲
*_Barak'Allah Feek_*
واياكم
Alhamdulillah. Very good conversation.
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Love this ❤️
Miss you my bro ما شاء الله
Alhumdolillah
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brother can you post more? اَلسَلامُ عَلَيْكُم وَرَحْمَةُ اَللهِ وَبَرَكاتُهُ
إن شاء الله we will try - more content coming soon
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Sorry he’s not making sense at start christian showed him in bible about trinity He brushed over it & asked another question Oh no he’s using the superman line Come on man
What do you mean he brushed over it? The Christian couldn’t even explain the trinity coherently. And I don’t blame him. It’s impossible to explain
The current mainstream teaching in Christianity is that God is a coequal, coeternal, one-substance trinity, and that Jesus Christ is God. This doctrine is considered by many as the cornerstone of Christianity, but where did this doctrine come from? The historical record is overwhelming that the church of the first three centuries did not worship God as a coequal, coeternal, consubstantial, one-substance three in one mysterious godhead. The early church worshipped one God and believed in a subordinate Son. The trinity originated with Babylon, and was passed on to most of the world's religions. This polytheistic (believing in more than one god) trinitarianism was intertwined with Greek religion and philosophy and slowly worked its way into Christian thought and creeds some 300 years after Christ. The idea of "God the Son" is Babylonian paganism and mythology that was grafted into Christianity. Worshipping "God the Son" is idolatry, and idolatry is Biblically condemned; it breaks the first great commandment of God of not having any gods before him (Exodus 20:3). Then three centuries after Christ the corrupt emperor Constantine forced the minority opinion of the trinity upon the council of Nicea. The Christian church went downward from there; in fact some of the creeds and councils actually contradict each other. The council of Nicea 325 said that "Jesus Christ is God," the council of Constantinople 381 said that "the Holy Spirit is God," the council of Ephesus 431 said that "human beings are totally depraved," the council of Chalcedon 451 said that "Jesus Christ is both man and God." If you follow the logic here then first you have Jesus Christ as God, then you have man totally depraved, and then you have Jesus Christ as man and God. If Jesus Christ is both man and God does this mean that God is also totally depraved? Well maybe the doctrine of the coequal, coeternal, one-substance, mysterious three in one triune godhead is deprived of any historical foundation tying it into the Christianity of the Bible and the Christianity of the first three centuries. However the historical information ties the trinity into various pagan origins.
And yet most Christian churches continue to teach and believe the doctrine that God is a coequal, coeternal, one-substance, mysterious three in one triune godhead, and that Jesus Christ is God, and that the trinity is "the cornerstone of Christianity".
The Church of the First Three Centuries 1865 Alvan Lamson
" . . . The modern doctrine of the Trinity is not found in any document or relic belonging to the Church of the first three centuries. . . so far as any remains or any record of them are preserved, coming down from early times, are, as regards this doctrine an absolute blank. They testify, so far as they testify at all, to the supremacy of the father, the only true God; and to the inferior and derived nature of the Son. There is nowhere among these remains a coequal trinity. . . but no un-divided three, -- coequal, infinite, self-existent, and eternal. This was a conception to which the age had not arrived. It was of later origin."
During the first three centuries, Christians did not believe that Jesus Christ was coequal, and coeternal with God, or that he was God the Son, they believed that Jesus Christ was subordinate to God, and that he had a beginning, that he was born. Those that believed otherwise were the exception.
The Doctrine of the Trinity Christianity's Self-Inflicted Wound 1994 Anthony F. Buzzard Charles F. Hunting
"Those Trinitarians who believe that the concept of a Triune God was such an established fact that it was not considered important enough to mention at the time the New Testament was written should be challenged by the remarks of another writer, Harold Brown:"
"It is a simple fact and an undeniable historical fact that several major doctrines that now seem central to the Christian Faith - such as the doctrine of the Trinity and the doctrine of the nature of Christ - were not present in a full and self-defined generally accepted form until the fourth and fifth centuries. If they are essential today - as all of the orthodox creeds and confessions assert - it must be because they are true. If they are true, then they must always have been true; they cannot have become true in the fourth and fifth century. But if they are both true and essential, how can it be that the early church took centuries to formulate them?"
History of the Christian Church 2nd Ed. 1985 Williston Walker
"AD 200. . Noetus had been expelled from the Smyrnaean church for teaching that Christ was the Father, and that the Father himself was born, and suffered, and died."
Man's Religions John B. Noss 1968
"The controversy first became heated when Apollinarius, a bishop in Syria . . . asserted that Christ could not have been perfect man united with complete God, for then there would not have been one Son of God, but two sons, one by nature and one by adoption, the first with a divine, the second with a human will. Such a thing seemed inconceivable, religiously abhorrent."
"Nestorius . . . preached a sermon against calling the virgin Mary "the mother of God" declaring she did not bear a deity, she bore a man,"
Numbers 23:19 states that God is not a man. God was not born, and God certainly did not die, but when people deviate from what the Bible teaches you can come up with the bizarre complexities of trinitarian religious mysteries that contradict logic, common sense and God's Word.
New Bible Dictionary 1982
"The word trinity is not found in the Bible . . ."
". . . it did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century."
". . . it is not a biblical doctrine in the sense that any formation of it can be found in the Bible, . . ."
"Scripture does not give us a formulated doctrine of the trinity, . . ."
The HarperCollins Encyclopedia of Catholicism 1995
". . . scholars generally agree that there is no doctrine of the trinity as such in either the Old Testament or the New Testament."
If the trinity is the cornerstone of Christianity then how did the church of the first three centuries get along so well without it? If the trinity is the cornerstone of Christianity then why is it not mentioned in the Bible?
The Encyclopedia Americana 1956
"Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian (believing in one God). The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching."
The trinity is a deviation from believing in one God; it is a deviation from what the early church taught and it is a deviation from the scripture.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia 1967
"The formulation 'one God in three persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century."
Who is Jesus? Anthony Buzzard
"The Old Testament is a strictly monotheistic. God is a single personal being. The idea that a trinity is to be found there or even in any way shadowed forth, is an assumption that has long held sway in theology, but is utterly without foundation."
The New Encyclopedia Britannica 1976
"Neither the word trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord' (Deut. 6:4). . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since."
The Shema consists of three sections of scripture Deuteronomy 6:4-9, 11:13-21, and Numbers 15:37-41. It is called the Shema after the Hebrew word hear, the first word in Deut. 6:4. The Shema was to be recited twice daily once upon arising and once when going to bed. So the Old Testament Jews would start and finish their day with 'Hear O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.'