Why Russians have TWO Passports!

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    Trying out CZcams shorts, will going to be making videos on short trivia about Russia here. In today's video we'll talk about why all Russians have two passports instead of one. It's actually quite simple. Like and sub for more thx xoxo
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  • @TsarBucks
    @TsarBucks Před 2 lety +1227

    I still have my Soviet passport - obviously useless, but a part of history nonetheless.

    • @dvv18
      @dvv18 Před 2 lety +57

      Helps with security checks with the US government, too.

    • @alikon07
      @alikon07 Před 2 lety +14

      Shiii that’s cool

    • @Devanite13
      @Devanite13 Před 2 lety +24

      It is a cool thing to keep, I keep a binder of my events throughout my life places ive been and achievements and awards and certificates I have received!

    • @bozokluoglu_
      @bozokluoglu_ Před 2 lety +6

      so you serve the Soviet Union?

    • @jussim.konttinen4981
      @jussim.konttinen4981 Před 2 lety +12

      I have a 20 markka banknote from 1945. Despite crazy inflation, almost the same value in euros.

  • @SamSam-qk5zr
    @SamSam-qk5zr Před 2 lety +721

    So pretty much the "internal passport" is just an ID card shaped like a passport

    • @Hand-in-Shot_Productions
      @Hand-in-Shot_Productions Před 2 lety +21

      That's basically it!

    • @SuperAndrey152
      @SuperAndrey152 Před 2 lety +53

      If ID card also has information about your martial status and registration (living) address then yes.

    • @juch3
      @juch3 Před 2 lety +44

      @@SuperAndrey152 well yeah my country has both of them in the card, and also religion for some reason

    • @SamSam-qk5zr
      @SamSam-qk5zr Před 2 lety +8

      @@SuperAndrey152 my country has both, and also the profession, on older IDs

    • @diegoyuiop
      @diegoyuiop Před 2 lety

      @@SamSam-qk5zr Italian?

  • @pineapplesodah
    @pineapplesodah Před 2 lety +414

    It's amazing to see how NFKRZ has grown over the years.

    • @aurin_komak
      @aurin_komak Před 2 lety +79

      Dude went from "ur mom gay" to educating us on Russian passports

    • @frankb1
      @frankb1 Před 2 lety +17

      Yes, I think he should ditch the "NFKRZ" tag and go with something more mature--like his actual name.

    • @Thot_Patrol_USA
      @Thot_Patrol_USA Před 2 lety +52

      @@frankb1 hell no

    • @kdiffin903
      @kdiffin903 Před 2 lety +22

      @@frankb1 wtf are u on brah

    • @mushroomcrepes4780
      @mushroomcrepes4780 Před 2 lety +11

      from nobody can touch my swag to passport info

  • @XER0GRAVITY
    @XER0GRAVITY Před 2 lety +1084

    Interesting how Soviet influence can be still be seen in Russia 30 years later, it really shows how big of an impact the Soviets had on Russian culture.

    • @Magpie1701
      @Magpie1701 Před 2 lety +71

      It was the second most powerful empire to ever exist (after USA)

    • @Karl-sq5ng
      @Karl-sq5ng Před 2 lety +89

      @@Magpie1701 And now it isn't. Because total socialism didn't work.

    • @funnyman4744
      @funnyman4744 Před 2 lety +89

      69 years of hell can't be undone with 30 years of a slightly lower circle of hell

    • @lukebruce5234
      @lukebruce5234 Před 2 lety +82

      @@Karl-sq5ng Under socialism it was. Under capitalism (now) it isn't. Not sure whether that implies socialism doesn't work. I think it implies the opposite.

    • @Belle-zq3xc
      @Belle-zq3xc Před 2 lety +29

      But if you think about it 30 years is a relatively short period in history and there are lots of Russians today who grew up in the Soviet Union so it makes sense that we're still influenced by it, if you look at our education system it's also similar in some ways just because that's how they did things back then. But that's also changing with innovations and stuff

  • @Raining345
    @Raining345 Před 2 lety +43

    Well, there you have it guys. This is the real reason Putin is mad at Ukraine.

  • @sultankamysbayev1937
    @sultankamysbayev1937 Před 2 lety +61

    0:35 Kazakhstan also switched from USSR internal passports to Kazakh ID cards back in 1994. Kazakhstan's citizens can use these ID cards not only domestically, but also to travel abroad to Russia, Kyrgyzstan, and Albania

    • @dvv18
      @dvv18 Před 2 lety +3

      But not Vanuatu? Damn…

    • @Bot-gy9gx
      @Bot-gy9gx Před 2 lety +1

      Albania?

    • @Ahmed-iam
      @Ahmed-iam Před 2 lety

      Just say a number of countries

    • @andanssas
      @andanssas Před 2 lety

      Mordor?

    • @dvv18
      @dvv18 Před 2 lety

      @@andanssas You understand that J.R.R.Tolkien wrote fiction? Like fairy tales? Make-believe, like? And he had already been dead for almost twenty years when Kazakhstan became a country?

  • @Belle-zq3xc
    @Belle-zq3xc Před 2 lety +123

    It makes sense that we now have a separate "foreign passport" as a relic of the USSR considering that most Soviet people couldn't travel abroad, glad they're getting rid of it. passports are so fragile yet you need them everywhere smh

    • @Nikita13337
      @Nikita13337 Před 2 lety +16

      It’s not a relic of USSR, almost every country has a separate passport for traveling abroad. It’s because international passports have to be made to the same standard while internal passport can be a piece of paper or an ID card

    • @nanevak
      @nanevak Před 2 lety +3

      They could but between the satellite countries. And they also had to apply for a visa. Only those with special privileges could travel outside of the ussr.

    • @Belle-zq3xc
      @Belle-zq3xc Před 2 lety +1

      @@Nikita13337 well our internal passports are quite different compared to an id, we have a bunch of other info there and we still have place of registration

    • @Belle-zq3xc
      @Belle-zq3xc Před 2 lety +4

      @@nanevak I know I'm Russian lol that's why I said Soviet people since most of them never got to leave the USSR. Hell even going to Moscow or something was quite problematic according to what I've been told by people from my hometown

    • @Nikita13337
      @Nikita13337 Před 2 lety

      @@Belle-zq3xc the fact that we have registration info in internal passport still doesn’t make having a separate international passport a unique Russian thing

  • @xSpiiXeL
    @xSpiiXeL Před 2 lety +119

    And now with covid passport you gonna have 3, lol.

    • @Boomstickfan495
      @Boomstickfan495 Před 2 lety +7

      it actually would just become a new stamp or thing added to existing ones, people act like this disease passport is a thing but there used to be travel documents in many countries like France that you had to provide at the border to prove you've been immunized against certain diseases. I know for a fact starting in the mid-to-late 1920s, France required you to have separate documentation and a stamp on your passport proving you had the Tuberculosis vaccine.
      I know you specifically might not be up in a roar about it, but I just like spreading this little fact to people who bring it up because I'm surprised actually how few people know this when it's actually been the norm for over 100 years.

    • @xSpiiXeL
      @xSpiiXeL Před 2 lety +7

      @@Boomstickfan495 you must be fun at parties

    • @cageybee7221
      @cageybee7221 Před 2 lety +10

      @@xSpiiXeL you must be boring at parties

    • @tom_stephen
      @tom_stephen Před 2 lety +2

      @@xSpiiXeL Fun facts are fun, no reason to insult anyone

    • @xSpiiXeL
      @xSpiiXeL Před 2 lety +1

      @@tom_stephen Tom you must be a huge snowflake if that was an insult to you.

  • @realhawaii5o
    @realhawaii5o Před 2 lety +64

    Here in Portugal, 1 year after the republican revolution, in 1911, an "Identity paper" was introduced and was like a laminated sheet to prove your identity internally. Several iterations of this existed until 2008 when Portugal introduced a citizenship card. This new card is valid anywhere within the EU and some associated countries like Andorra, Bosnia, Montenegro, Iceland, Norway, etc.
    For travel outside these countries, a passport is required.

    • @dinis8271
      @dinis8271 Před 2 lety

      Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado meu amigo

    • @thearousedeunuch
      @thearousedeunuch Před 2 lety

      PORTUGAL, CARALHO! :)

    • @marcusbrajic7169
      @marcusbrajic7169 Před 2 lety +2

      Yea, "National Identity card" I have a Norwegian one which i use in all of EU/EEA and Schengen as well as the balkan countries Bosnia, serbia & montenegro

    • @realhawaii5o
      @realhawaii5o Před 2 lety +1

      @@dinis8271 Great song, not gonna lie.

  • @or5645
    @or5645 Před 2 lety +32

    In Azerbaijan, we switched to ID cards instead of internal passports back in 2005 😅

  • @mykolasaph6058
    @mykolasaph6058 Před 2 lety +67

    In Lithuania we have both ID card and passport, with ID card you can travel around European Union and with passport to other countries

    • @mixermaster10
      @mixermaster10 Před 2 lety +8

      same here in Estonia, but thats prob normal thing in majority of post communist countries especcialy those have all im sure that are in EU, though i cannot say that with certain whats in central asia

    • @NotinEzugo
      @NotinEzugo Před 2 lety +13

      I think the majority of european countries has this by now. We at least have it in Norway.

    • @wavell14
      @wavell14 Před 2 lety +2

      Papieren bitte. The german influence is strong

    • @gamermapper
      @gamermapper Před 2 lety +1

      Same in France

    • @gamermapper
      @gamermapper Před 2 lety +1

      @@mixermaster10 I don't know if it's only a post Soviet thing , because we have it here in France, and as a belarusian living here I don't think we have an ID system in Belarus, only a passport

  • @Stormtrooper-bx9lq
    @Stormtrooper-bx9lq Před 2 lety +6

    In Moldova, like in Ukraine we also use ID cards instead of the internal passport, in fact didn’t even know people in Russia and other post-soviet states use 2 passports

    • @Yep6803
      @Yep6803 Před 5 měsíci

      Europe got ID Schengen and passprt. Personally I own only Schengen's.

  • @druviseglite
    @druviseglite Před 2 lety +11

    Here in Latvia, we had only passports after the regaining of independence just like Estonia, Lithuania we also implemented the passport and ID card that can be used together with web services.

  • @Belle-zq3xc
    @Belle-zq3xc Před 2 lety +31

    As a Russian I was so confused when I first learned that many Americans don't have a passport, I was like how do they do anything 😲 but then I read more about it and realized that many Russians don't have "foreign passports" the same way that Americans don't because they don't travel abroad

    • @MrShushu2oo
      @MrShushu2oo Před 2 lety +5

      Romania here - no passport here since I can travel anywhere in EU with ID card and also extremely cheap. For example I can go to Barcelona with 20 Euros; in fact it's more expensive the Taxi and the Train to Otopeni/Henry Coanda airport than the trip to Barcelona. Now, in COVID times its difficult since I have to stay 14 days in quarantine when I get back, but other than that there is no problem whatsoever. Also, if you eat normal food from local places you can have a 7 day trip to Barcelona and back with as less as 400 Euros which is about the same money I earn in 7 days (so if I take a vacation from work - I have the right to about 31 days a year - its even steven). 20 degrees today in Barcelona so it's ok in terms of temperature - Bucharest 0 degrees today and raising to 12 this Saturday.
      Long story short - there's no need for a passport since EU has so many places to go and the civilization is unparalleled by any other place in the world (maybe Japan?).

    • @Belle-zq3xc
      @Belle-zq3xc Před 2 lety +7

      @@MrShushu2oo that's so convenient! I've always loved and been jealous of the EU because of that haha it's so cool how you can just go to Spain or Germany or whatever, all so diverse and interesting, it provides such an amazing opportunity for cultural exchange. I wish Russia had a friendlier foreign policy, I bet we'd have visaless relationships with many more countries

    • @gamermapper
      @gamermapper Před 2 lety +3

      @@Belle-zq3xc I think extending the EU to Russia and then eventually to all post-Soviet countries would be really cool.

    • @Belle-zq3xc
      @Belle-zq3xc Před 2 lety

      @@gamermapper that would be the dream haha hopefully it happens one day! I have a feeling it will, it would also really boost domestic tourism in all those countries

    • @gamermapper
      @gamermapper Před 2 lety

      @@Belle-zq3xc Eurasian union, new greater democratic decentralised socialist USSR

  • @ismayilarifoglu6226
    @ismayilarifoglu6226 Před 2 lety +2

    Because Russia is so big, to move from European part to its Asian part and vice versa, requires dual passport.

    • @dvv18
      @dvv18 Před 2 lety

      You might want to stop smoking whatever you're smoking.

  • @MainstreamGamePlays
    @MainstreamGamePlays Před 2 lety +34

    Nice, we used to have those in Argentina, but we stopped using them like in 2010 or so

    • @aluminium5738
      @aluminium5738 Před 2 lety +1

      argentina argenpeena

    • @bigscarysteve
      @bigscarysteve Před 2 lety +1

      If I understand you aright, sounds like a victory for freedom in Argentina. Yay Argentina!

    • @Perririri
      @Perririri Před 2 lety

      Even Pope Francis had one as Jorge Bergoglio!

    • @Alex-fv2qs
      @Alex-fv2qs Před 2 lety +3

      @@bigscarysteve
      It was never used like a Soviet-style Internal Passport, it was just a regular identity card
      The new card system still uses the same name and is basically the same, but less chunky

    • @Monkechnology
      @Monkechnology Před 2 lety

      @@bigscarysteve It wasn't an internal passport but the regular id. It was like a book because it had pages to fill with stuff like marriages, changes of legal address or every time you voted. Then we switched to an identity card.

  • @ozerkidance6818
    @ozerkidance6818 Před 2 lety +106

    Одновременно у тебя может быть 3 РФ паспорта: 1.внутренний 2.загран 3.загран с биометрией (да,да именно 2 заграна одновременно можно иметь и получать в них разные визы, если один из них без биометрии, а второй с биометрией).

    • @a55a551n90
      @a55a551n90 Před 2 lety +6

      в украине можно иметь два с биометрией)

    • @Petero3
      @Petero3 Před 2 lety +5

      Вроде можно два биометрических иметь. Второй паспорт обязан быть биометрическим, а каким есть первый (с биометрией либо без) - без разницы.

    • @joshualieberman1059
      @joshualieberman1059 Před 2 lety

      Можно иметь 2 с биометрией, без беометрии только 1 из 2

    • @user-ff8oy8wl5l
      @user-ff8oy8wl5l Před 2 lety

      @@Petero3 нет, если у тебя 2 заграна, то оба должны быть биометрические, если у тебя до получения был действующий обычный, то нужно произвести сначала замену обычного на био, затем получать второй.

    • @ASFArtix
      @ASFArtix Před 2 lety

      @@user-ff8oy8wl5l какой смысл от двух одинаковых паспортов… глупость какая то

  • @vcprocles
    @vcprocles Před 2 lety +21

    Actually, Belarus uses one passport from the 1996, and AFAIK Russia and Ukraine were the only ones that preserved this system

    • @caim3465
      @caim3465 Před 2 lety +1

      Wtf... But it's still kinda fun

    • @rainbows5232
      @rainbows5232 Před 2 lety +5

      yeah i was shocked when i visited family in belarus, and they kept saying passport, and i didnt understand at first, only to realise passport is also used what i would use as an id card

    • @marekss
      @marekss Před 2 lety

      @@rainbows5232 what? where do you live that doesn't have a passport?

    • @rainbows5232
      @rainbows5232 Před 2 lety +3

      @@marekss lol i didnt say we dont have a passport. im from israel, you have an id card, wich is a must, but you not obligated to own a passport unless you travel abroad, a passport is only for traveling, and id card is seperate. so when i visited family in belarus and we needed to go somewhere where you needed to bring some sort of identification, i didnt understand at first why my family memebers said they need their passports, because i didnt know they use their passport as id as well

  • @goodfortune4317
    @goodfortune4317 Před 2 lety +8

    Even having a thought of "internal passport" in my multi-ethnic country would cause a massive riot.

    • @dsmj7389
      @dsmj7389 Před 2 lety +2

      @Laughing Hyena, ... As well it should

    • @jeefsquaa
      @jeefsquaa Před 2 lety

      @@dsmj7389 why? It's basically an ID what's wrong with that?

  • @robertandersson1128
    @robertandersson1128 Před 2 lety +24

    0:32 Belarus only has 1 passport. They are moving to ID-card from September 2021
    "Паспорт гражданина Республики Беларусь - удостоверяющий личность документ, выдаваемый гражданам Республики Беларусь для внутреннего пользования и для осуществления поездок за границу. До 1 сентября 2021 года в Белоруссии основным документом, удостоверяющим личность являлся паспорт гражданина Республики Беларусь образца 1996 года, действовавший как для внутреннего пользования так и для выезда за границу. 1 сентября 2021 года был введены в обращение документы нового образца ID-карта (для внутреннего пользования) и биометрический паспорт (для выезда за рубеж). При этом получение ID-карты и биометрического паспорта не является обязательным, паспорт образца 1996 года является действующим (в том числе и для выезда за границу) до истечения указанного в них срока. По состоянию на ноябрь 2021 года есть возможность выбора, какой документ получать - паспорт образца 1996 года или ID-карту и биометрический паспорт (при необходимости). "

    • @user-ze6yx2eg9w
      @user-ze6yx2eg9w Před 2 lety

      Белорусы вообще во многих вещах, связанных с бюрократией (в хорошем смысле. Да, у бюрократии есть хорошие смыслы, если она работает) всегда обгоняли многих. Как же жаль, что начался весь этот неловкий цирк с цеплянием за трон...

  • @professional.commentator
    @professional.commentator Před 3 měsíci +6

    Well it's 2024 now. Guess that project was put on hold.

    • @Frosty_V0
      @Frosty_V0 Před 3 měsíci +1

      😂 like everything in Russia

  • @punished4890
    @punished4890 Před 2 lety +8

    If I'm not mistaken Moldova doesn't have internal passports too, we use "Buletins", basically ID's for anyone older than 14.

  • @alikon07
    @alikon07 Před 2 lety +10

    Bruh, in Kazakhstan we went with the whole id system pretty much right after the fall. The Russian internal passport is a pretty weird gimmick tbh

    • @odyrus
      @odyrus Před 2 lety +2

      yes and this is why we are getting rid of this but it takes time since Russia is still ruled by people born and raised in the soviet union

    • @alikon07
      @alikon07 Před 2 lety +2

      @@odyrus I agree, but also I think Russia sometimes wants do something different from the rest of the world just like America. Some of it is pride some of its political

    • @georgiykireev9678
      @georgiykireev9678 Před 2 lety

      @EE DR 1) Separate system of measurement which everyone knows is inferior, but keeps using anyway
      2) Complaining about the downfalls of fully privatised healthcare and envying Europe in this regard, but not fixing the problem
      A lot of other, very similarly detrimental things that the USA keeps up just because of some backwards national pride idea that is burned into your subconscious

  • @carl4243
    @carl4243 Před 2 lety +9

    That internal passport was used to monitor soviet people's movement back then. If you want to go from Moscow to st Petersburg, you would need that passport back then to do that. Thats why there's a line in the movie the red october where one soviet guy was curious about US because they don't need a passport just to go to another state.

  • @a_dogg5277
    @a_dogg5277 Před 2 lety +9

    The internal passport looks cool tho

    • @user-do5zk6jh1k
      @user-do5zk6jh1k Před 2 lety +4

      But it doesn't fit in a wallet

    • @a_dogg5277
      @a_dogg5277 Před 2 lety +2

      @@user-do5zk6jh1k that and if it did is big an bulky but still looks cool tho

  • @KrzysztofBob
    @KrzysztofBob Před 2 lety +9

    We used to have something similar in Poland. It was an ID that looked like a smaller passport. 20 years ago, plastic ID cards started replacing the old, paper ones.

    • @yarpen26
      @yarpen26 Před 2 lety +1

      And thank God it did, it'd be a nightmare to have to carry all this library of papers around. I don't even take my passport when traveling within Shenghen, even though most of my coworkers do, as if they expected Poland might get ejected from it mid-flight or something. You might easily end up misplacing it somewhere while abroad and that's going to be by far a bigger problem than the nonexistent risk that your ID alone might not suffice anywhere in the Union and plenty of places beyond (it's 100% sufficient throughout most of the Western Balkans and even Turkey).

    • @SharonPiano8
      @SharonPiano8 Před 2 lety

      What you had before is always replaced by something made of plastic.

    • @Yep6803
      @Yep6803 Před 5 měsíci

      dude, we're european...

    • @Yep6803
      @Yep6803 Před 5 měsíci

      whole europeans are the same: we had paper, still got a paper ID @@SharonPiano8

  • @ON-O
    @ON-O Před 2 lety +55

    "Pretty much anyone in the world has to get a passport to travel to foreign countries…"
    * Laughs in EU *

    • @KrzysztofBob
      @KrzysztofBob Před 2 lety +18

      *laughs in Schengen

    • @dvv18
      @dvv18 Před 2 lety +3

      No such thing as "foreign country" inside the Schengen zone.

    • @marcodamasio
      @marcodamasio Před 2 lety +2

      @@dvv18 Schengen zone is made of 33 separated countries, each with its own history, language, culture, politics, and some of them have with different money. They are (for each other) foreign country

    • @dvv18
      @dvv18 Před 2 lety +3

      @@marcodamasio Who cares. For travel purposes, it's one and the same bureaucratic space.

    • @marcodamasio
      @marcodamasio Před 2 lety +2

      @@dvv18 well, about 420 million people care. And the words "foreign country" don't mean "places where you need to show a passport to enter". They mean "places with history, language, culture, politics"

  • @idkwuzgoinon
    @idkwuzgoinon Před 2 lety +8

    So basically an ID but not in card form? Probably some info on each would be different

  • @koenvoigt507
    @koenvoigt507 Před 2 lety +5

    Now u got 0

  • @speter0208
    @speter0208 Před 2 lety +20

    In Hungary we also used to have this book shaped ID though it was not called passport. In the old socialist regime even your workplace was in it. We changed it to a card about 20 years ago, but some old people still have the old ID book, because it was issued to them without expiration.

    • @DoctorZacharySmith
      @DoctorZacharySmith Před 2 lety +1

      But additionally, we used to have two different passports as well - one for socialist countries and another for Western countries. For Western countries you could receive a travel permit only every 3 years. You could travel to friendly socialist countries every year.

  • @LivingDead53
    @LivingDead53 Před 2 lety +2

    I thought travel in the Soviet Union was restricted and that's why you had two passports.

    • @lifeofabronovich7792
      @lifeofabronovich7792 Před 2 lety

      Yes, that is why. Foreign travel during soviet times (at least to Western countries) was only really an option for people with links to the party, such as diplomats, politicians, etc, and hence they had access to the foreign passport. The internal passport was used for travel within the Soviet Union because (I could be wrong here) regular people didn't exactly have freedom of movement within the Soviet Union, and hence had to show their internal passports when crossing into other republics and such.

    • @holger_p
      @holger_p Před 2 lety

      @@lifeofabronovich7792 The assumption was travelling inside SSR, like from Wladiwostok to Krim, needed permission or you had checkpoints.

  • @alfonsomartinez6798
    @alfonsomartinez6798 Před 7 měsíci +1

    POV MEXICO: we have 2 passports to 😂

  • @PasxalkA
    @PasxalkA Před 2 lety +15

    Ukraine's not the first, fyi. As a Kazakhstani citizen, I always used to get so confused talking to Russians about this, because we had the national ID system introduced in mid-90's. Interesting insight!

    • @424dsfdsfdsfs
      @424dsfdsfdsfs Před 2 lety +1

      А куда на этой карточке адрес прописки печатают? У нас ведь в России все организации начиная с чиновников и банков требуют везде указывать и подтверждать адрес регистрации

    • @DamirAsanov
      @DamirAsanov Před 2 lety

      @@424dsfdsfdsfs У нас в Кыргызстане ID карты с чипами. Когда меняешь прописку или статус о браке, данные чипа тоже обновляют. Данные чипа можно увидеть с помощью NFC смартфона.

  • @CsyeCokTheSolly
    @CsyeCokTheSolly Před 2 lety +7

    I live in Ukraine but despite having an ID-card I still have the pre-2016 passport that was still useful to me since it has birth information.

  • @aliaksandrmatrunich2056
    @aliaksandrmatrunich2056 Před 2 lety +2

    There is only one pasport in Belarus.

  • @travelleryu
    @travelleryu Před 2 lety +4

    I remember the locals showing their passports to the conductors to check their names when they got on a long distance train and remember thinking why Russians carry their passports everywhere like that or what. Now I understand why.

    • @dvv18
      @dvv18 Před 2 lety +1

      Also, airports. A "foreign" passport works for this purpose, too, BTW.

  • @malfattio2894
    @malfattio2894 Před 2 lety +17

    In the UK, most people use a trainee driver's licence as an ID

    • @epender
      @epender Před 2 lety +3

      Most shops only accept a Full Drivers licence, not a provisional.

  • @Yassified3425
    @Yassified3425 Před 2 lety +7

    Latvia also doesn't have the internal passport. We have had ID cards for year's.

    • @lifeofabronovich7792
      @lifeofabronovich7792 Před 2 lety +1

      I imagine the rest of the Baltics don't use them anymore either, being in the EU and Schengen and all

    • @Ratmir9
      @Ratmir9 Před 2 lety +1

      Ну и что хорошего? Менять его постоянно. В РФ паспорт это по сути удостоверение личности, но менять его нужно всего два раза в жизни.

    • @Scaaryk
      @Scaaryk Před 2 lety +1

      @@Ratmir9 а чего плохого? менять раз в 10 лет как и паспорт (раньше было 5), новая ID karte стоит например 15 евро (месяц назад получал) помещается в кошелек, всегда с собой и с ней постоянно без паспорта путешествую по Европе. При потере, также за неделю новую можно сделать. У бабули моей ID карты нет, но паспорт без срока годности, может айдишка также былабы :) в Латвии еще выпускают по самым последним технологиям защиты, красивые карты уже как 2 года точно. Летал в Ирландию 3 недели назад, там в аеропорту дама на паспортном контроле позвала коллег посмотреть на мою ID карту, т.к. таких почему-то не встречала и у них все еще планируют обновить на такие в будующем.

  • @slav4335
    @slav4335 Před 2 lety

    one passport for trolling, one for normal stuff

  • @davidkennerly
    @davidkennerly Před 4 měsíci +2

    Roman, I hope now that you have obtained residency in Portugal that you will be able to speak more openly about Russia and Putin.

  • @someguysomeone3543
    @someguysomeone3543 Před 2 lety +4

    Before even watching the video I knew it had smth to with the Soviets. Though my first guess would have been that the second passport was used to travel to the more autonomous republics of the federation.

  • @patricke3000
    @patricke3000 Před 2 lety +4

    extremly interesting. Just curious what is your opinion of the memorial museum closing and how politics are moving in russia.

  • @user-ig2qe3pj7h
    @user-ig2qe3pj7h Před 2 lety +1

    *Comrade, you need buy a soviet pass right now! For 300 rub*

  • @MrTheCaptain
    @MrTheCaptain Před 2 lety +2

    In New Zealand we use our IDs for domestic travel and passports for overseas travel.
    according to the passport index we have the 3rd (tied between 7 other countries) best passport. its actually good enough to get me to Ukraine but not Russia lol

  • @Maxime_K-G
    @Maxime_K-G Před 2 lety +5

    Are you officially required to carry it all the time when you're out of home?

    • @dvv18
      @dvv18 Před 2 lety +1

      No. But they can deny selling or serving alcohol to you. And you better not look like a Gastarbeiter from places due south.

    • @Maxime_K-G
      @Maxime_K-G Před 2 lety +3

      @@thedamntrain I dunno what you're talking about. It's the law in a bunch of countries.

  • @user-ze6yx2eg9w
    @user-ze6yx2eg9w Před 2 lety +13

    "Internal passport" is completely equal to "ID card" in other countries (or a driver's license in the United States) and is used for exactly the same things. For example, to confirm age when buying spirits.
    It just looks "vintage" or "old fashioned". There is no break in the template here, all countries live in about the same way. They just have a card, not a little book. There is even a certain trick in the fact that your universal document is not made in the form factor of a discount card from a plumbing store, but in a pretentious form. The only thing is complete idiocy that such a passport was not originally made waterproof. It is so stupid. But now it is too late to remake them for the country, a new step is slowly approaching, where everything will be electronic.

    • @Crashed131963
      @Crashed131963 Před 2 lety +2

      A plastic ID card like a driver's license is more convenient than a paper book that can't fit in a wallet.

    • @marsianer4842
      @marsianer4842 Před 2 lety +1

      in the USA there is no requirement to have a photo ID. It is helpful, but lots of people don't have one.

    • @Crashed131963
      @Crashed131963 Před 2 lety +1

      @@marsianer4842 If the US police ask for ID they will get it before your let go.
      Imagine a cop asking for ID and a person responds with
      - "I do not have any"
      and the police comes back with
      -" That's ok , we believe you , you can go on your merry way".
      Maybe on Fasty Island.

    • @xaverlustig3581
      @xaverlustig3581 Před 3 měsíci

      UK has no ID card or equivalent. You have a passport or nothing.

  • @aves_valentina
    @aves_valentina Před 4 měsíci +2

    Georgia also use ID card instead of pasport

  • @joestendel1111
    @joestendel1111 Před 2 lety +1

    Loving the shaggy do look

  • @JamesAllmond
    @JamesAllmond Před 2 lety +14

    Basically, in the US the driver's license suffices as the ID, there is no National ID (yet), but if you just need an ID (and to vote, one that proves citizenship is required. ok that is needed for the voter registration process to the nit pickers), in most states it ends up looking a lot like a drivers license...

    • @andrejmarkovic1816
      @andrejmarkovic1816 Před 2 lety +7

      What if somebody dosen't have a drivers license?

    • @drod2k1
      @drod2k1 Před 2 lety +7

      @@andrejmarkovic1816 you can get a physical ID that isn't a drivers license it's $30 at the dmv

    • @wavell14
      @wavell14 Před 2 lety +1

      vOtEr Id Is RaCiSt

    • @michaelansbro1512
      @michaelansbro1512 Před 2 lety +1

      California ID doesn't,t mean citizenship
      It means you voteDemocrat.

    • @CallieMasters5000
      @CallieMasters5000 Před 2 lety +1

      Each US state issues driver licenses and ID cards. These are not for crossing international borders. The US government issues passports (regular, diplomatic, etc) for international borders, as well as border crossing ID cards for crossing land borders to Mexico, Canada, and cruises, though they recommend getting a passport in case it's required or you need to fly home on the same trip.

  • @user-jj8jl4eg6q
    @user-jj8jl4eg6q Před 2 lety +8

    In Lithuania we do have the same thing as in Ukraine: one passport and ID card.

    • @user-se9nm1tl9l
      @user-se9nm1tl9l Před 2 lety

      The Ukraine

    • @user-sl3fv8tn9u
      @user-sl3fv8tn9u Před 2 lety

      @@user-se9nm1tl9l??? Without "the". You don't know English? :)

    • @hendrikdependrik1891
      @hendrikdependrik1891 Před 2 lety

      Oke, East-Pole.

    • @user-se9nm1tl9l
      @user-se9nm1tl9l Před 2 lety

      @@user-sl3fv8tn9u it's actually with the. Just like the Netherlands - the Ukraine. Read some history books and come back.

    • @user-sl3fv8tn9u
      @user-sl3fv8tn9u Před 2 lety +1

      @@user-se9nm1tl9l "The Ukraine" is incorrect both grammatically and politically, says Oksana Kyzyma of the Embassy of Ukraine in London.
      "Ukraine is both the conventional short and long name of the country," she says. "This name is stated in the Ukrainian Declaration of Independence and Constitution."
      The use of the article relates to the time before independence in 1991, when Ukraine was a republic of the Soviet Union known as the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, she says. Since then, it should be merely Ukraine.
      According to several authoritative sources, such as the CIA World Factbook, the Times Comprehensive Atlas of the World and the US Department of State, only two countries, The Bahamas and The Gambia, should officially be referred to with the article.
      The two Congos are officially Democratic Republic of the Congo and Republic of the Congo. And the longer, official name for Netherlands is Kingdom of the Netherlands.
      I see you don't know history and you are lazy to check facts. Good bye Russian troll with Belarusian flag near nickname.

  • @annoyannoy
    @annoyannoy Před 2 lety +1

    Latvia has ID cards too!

  • @mihailb8280
    @mihailb8280 Před 2 lety +1

    One passport is a id card . Lol.

  • @z1lla4
    @z1lla4 Před 2 lety +4

    Interesting why don't you upload this to tiktok?

  • @ChrispyNi
    @ChrispyNi Před 2 lety +3

    Im from belarus and we have one passport. Been abroad and no need to have second one

    • @rainbows5232
      @rainbows5232 Před 2 lety

      its uncomfortable, in my country an id card is the size of a credit card, you can put it anywhere, no need to carry around a whole passport

  • @krishnendubhoi
    @krishnendubhoi Před 2 lety +2

    This information was classified, comrade.

  • @emilsr4194
    @emilsr4194 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I'm from Latvia (a post-Soviet country), and we switched to ID cards a LONG time ago because of EU laws, and I'm not a fan of them. It just feels better holding an actual passport in my hands than a plastic card.

  • @liviodefranza
    @liviodefranza Před 2 lety +11

    Yugoslavia had the same system before: one federal passport for traveling abroad and one state passport for traveling inside yugoslavia. When Yugoslavia collapsed, these regional/state passports became national passport of Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, etc.

  • @malexponce
    @malexponce Před 2 lety +2

    Alright, that was succinct. Thank you.

  • @Finnish_guy
    @Finnish_guy Před 2 lety

    Passport number 1 = go to gulag
    Passport number 2 = come to gulag

  • @DudeHunder
    @DudeHunder Před 2 lety +1

    Lithuania also have ID cards

  • @kinai01
    @kinai01 Před 2 lety +3

    Okay seriously in Moldova we've had an ID card since like 20 years ago. We got rid of the second passport almost immediately, you always forget about Moldova why the hate Man?

  • @paulgooderham
    @paulgooderham Před 2 lety +5

    "Papers, please."

  • @vverbov22
    @vverbov22 Před 2 lety +1

    As a russian i can confirm that we indeed have two.

  • @xander1052
    @xander1052 Před 2 lety +1

    And of course the UK instead of having an ID card just uses the Driver's License,

  • @mohamedkhaireh9356
    @mohamedkhaireh9356 Před 2 lety +14

    Good on Ukraine on getting rid of the internal passport and adopting a national ID card. Another example of how Ukraine is shedding its Soviet past. The Baltic States did this shortly after they regained their independence in 1990/91. The internal passport system wasn't invented by the Soviets. Russia had internal passports during the Russian Empire. The internal passports were introduced after serfdom was abolished in 1861 and restricted where people could go to (Guberniya, city, etc.) and for how long (6 months, 1 year, 2 years, etc.). Both Tsarist and Soviet authorities had the internal passport system to control people from moving from one part of the country to another part of the country. In a normal country; people have every right to move from one part of the country to another part of the country without the need of an internal passport. Think of the migration of Americans from the East coast to the Mid-West and and the West coast in 19th century. Or African-Americans leaving the South in the beginning of the 20th century to the North and West Coast. Something like that could never happen in Tsarist or Soviet Russia.

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 Před 2 lety

      Meanwhile in modern-day mainland China I think their citizens are denied some social services e.g. higher public education, lower priority for admission into universities in the area if they're residing in a part of the country they aren't born in e.g. migrant workers from villages working in cities, otherwise with the number of people attracted to work in cities I guess their social services might be overloaded. This is known as the "household residency/registration" system (户籍/口)

    • @Insaniya.humanity
      @Insaniya.humanity Před 2 lety

      And now Russian is murdering Ukrainians

  • @pelago_
    @pelago_ Před 5 měsíci +3

    Papers please

  • @antonioamosanchez4912
    @antonioamosanchez4912 Před 2 lety +2

    Those people that say id cards are not necessary when you have a driver's license need to rethink a bit more.
    Not everyone is a driver (too young or too old, for example) or has to be a driver, but everyone need in certain moments to validate citizenship among other things.
    And by the way, modern id cards (chip included) have much more functionality, like being a portable digital certificate for example.
    It should be the other way around. I do not understand the need for a driver's license when its data could be included inside an id card. Or just identify by it and the cops could check the databases. If administrations were efficient, which is a big if of course.
    Ah Estonia, I envy how advanced you are in digitalizing administrations (e-residence, etc)

  • @Crashed131963
    @Crashed131963 Před 2 lety

    A plastic ID card like a driver's license is more convenient than a paper book that can't fit in a wallet.

  • @ayoubkaboul3548
    @ayoubkaboul3548 Před 2 lety +4

    I'm pretty sure it's the same in germany. We have the internal passport called Ausweis as well as the Reisepass to travel around the world.

    • @eftalanquest
      @eftalanquest Před 2 lety +2

      unser personalausweis ist die id card von der roman spricht

    • @ayoubkaboul3548
      @ayoubkaboul3548 Před 2 lety

      @@eftalanquest Genau

    • @gamermapper
      @gamermapper Před 2 lety

      But it's not called a passport. Russia is the only country who calls documents who are not for international travel passports.

    • @dvv18
      @dvv18 Před 2 lety

      @@gamermapper Well, they in fact call it "паспорт", but I see where your confusion comes from.

  • @lifeofabronovich7792
    @lifeofabronovich7792 Před 2 lety +6

    I believe China, North Korea, and Russia are the only countries that still use a form of the internal passport. Also, as many others are saying, Russia and Ukraine were the only Post-Soviet countries to continue using the internal passport.

    • @lifeofabronovich7792
      @lifeofabronovich7792 Před 2 lety

      @सूर्य भण्डारी isn't aadhar more like a regular ID card though rather than an internal passport?

    • @lifeofabronovich7792
      @lifeofabronovich7792 Před 2 lety

      @सूर्य भण्डारी Wow, that's terrible. My grandparents live in India so I knew the situation there was bad, but I didn't know it was that bad.

    • @Yep6803
      @Yep6803 Před 5 měsíci

      *coff coff* ID cards should be upgrade for Schengen use, they ARE internal passports.

  • @JMiskovsky
    @JMiskovsky Před 2 lety +1

    What is important to add that in USSR times one was not always perimeted.to travel inside USSR as USSR citizen, but one had to get approval.

    • @dvv18
      @dvv18 Před 2 lety

      It is important to add that Roman's parents were born when there were no restrictions to travel already unless:
      1. You are specifically banned from traveling by the authorities - if you're a convict; waiting for you day in court; or an Andrei Sakharov type of guy.
      2. You want to travel to a restricted area like some border or otherwise designated state security areas - you needed to be a local resident or have a special permission to do that.
      It's got nothing to do with having an "internal passport" vs. an ID card though.

  • @TacticalNarcissist
    @TacticalNarcissist Před 2 lety +1

    What the fuck NFKRZ giga chadded up

  • @RandomDudeOne
    @RandomDudeOne Před 2 lety +5

    We have internal passports in the US as well. They are called drivers licenses.

    • @bigscarysteve
      @bigscarysteve Před 2 lety +1

      Finally--an intelligent comment on this thread!

    • @WILLIAN_1424
      @WILLIAN_1424 Před 2 lety

      Excuse me, but do all americans have Drivers Licenses? I never fully understanded how it works in the US, don't you guys have an ID card?

    • @RandomDudeOne
      @RandomDudeOne Před 2 lety

      @@WILLIAN_1424 You mean like a national ID card? No.
      According to Google 89% of adult Americans have a drivers license. A big chunk of that 11% who don't are too old to drive or have had their license revoked for driving drunk or some other reason.

    • @WILLIAN_1424
      @WILLIAN_1424 Před 2 lety

      @@RandomDudeOne interesting, seems actually much better than having a national ID. I've read in another comment that you can use any document with a photo and some basic information as an identification, that seems very practical. Anyway, thanks for the info.

  • @handsomegeorgianbankrobber3779

    When you said "One of the few countries that actually stepped away from it is..." I instantly thought it had to be Ukraine. Since they have a problem with Russia it seems they are trying to do everything possible to differentiate themselves from that country.

    • @WILLIAN_1424
      @WILLIAN_1424 Před 2 lety

      Two months later and you can probably see why.

  • @snomhunter404
    @snomhunter404 Před 2 lety

    one passport for go to the russian , and another passport for gulag

  • @worldcitizen123
    @worldcitizen123 Před 2 lety +2

    The internal passport was needed in the USSR to travel and settle between the republics, because there was no freedom to travel and live wherever you wanted. To understand this, it's like having an internal passport to cross state borders in the US and travel between them.

    • @dvv18
      @dvv18 Před 2 lety

      No.

    • @starventure
      @starventure Před 2 lety

      In their defense a little, there was never really anywhere to move to in the traditional sense.

  • @cry2love
    @cry2love Před 2 lety

    0:26 omg, I thought it was YOUR PHOTO wtf 🤣

  • @roberteischen4170
    @roberteischen4170 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm very suspicious of a government that requires a passport for internal travel.

  • @harrisonfuller7539
    @harrisonfuller7539 Před 2 lety

    So this is where that hunt for red October scene comes from

  • @sgtepic4659
    @sgtepic4659 Před 5 měsíci

    In sweden we just use our drivers license as an ID card

  • @Basuko_Smoker
    @Basuko_Smoker Před 2 lety +1

    i love how you just fit the whole russian flag on the screen stretched out hahaha

  • @da_cat
    @da_cat Před 2 lety +1

    Romania had a shitty passport like "identity book", it changed it to identity card over 10 years ago

  • @Derzolus
    @Derzolus Před 2 lety +1

    Russia had between 2013 - 2016 the Universal electronic card универсальная электронная карта . I do not understand why they cancelled this project maybe Roman can give us some details.

  • @mk6022
    @mk6022 Před 4 měsíci

    In Czech we also had this booklet. Police made sure you have employment stamp in it or else jail :)

    • @serebii666
      @serebii666 Před 4 měsíci

      Back in the past every country had a booklet, but those booklets are still not internal passports, there were I.Ds (občanské průkazy) They were never called passports, like Roman's is. Internal passports further restrict/ed where you could travel or live within the country itself. Look up I.D.s or Driver's Licenses from USA or France from the 1950s, 1970s etc. International Drivers licenses are still issued as small booklets. Modern Czechia also never had this form of I.D., laminated cards replaced the plastic foils in 1993.

  • @kaukasvejo
    @kaukasvejo Před 2 lety +2

    Not only Ukraine uses ID cards, post-soviet countries such as Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia has ID cards since they entered to European Union :)

    • @artisriga
      @artisriga Před 2 lety

      We didn't have this internal passport before EU also didn't have it before ID card was introduced. I'm pretty sure all Baltic states switched to regular passport right after the collapse of SU.

    • @kaukasvejo
      @kaukasvejo Před 2 lety +1

      @@artisriga hey, braliuks, I am just talking about the plastic ID card, not about internal passport :)

  • @RichardBaran
    @RichardBaran Před 2 lety

    Strange world. I was randomly researching passports over the last hour. Pulled up YT and bam.

  • @Perryz7
    @Perryz7 Před 2 lety +1

    Because, history.

  • @justcallmehaterik
    @justcallmehaterik Před 2 lety +1

    In Hungary during the Soviet occupation, Hungarian people also had 2 passports, a red and blue. Red was the more common because with that, you could travel within the Warsaw Pact countries for 30 days each visit, meanwhile blue was the overall more precious passport, because if you were in the possession of a blue passport, you were able to visit Western countries, so either you had connections to the Communist Party or you were lucky. Because of the whole communism bs, most of the time the authorities didn't allow you to have a blue passport. In the 80s however, they were more permissive about the iron curtain, and that's why East Germans could meet with West Germans in Hungary. Obviously after communism, it's a lot easier to travel and live in other countries, for instance i don't even have a passport because i don't need within the EU.

    • @lifeofabronovich7792
      @lifeofabronovich7792 Před 2 lety

      Can confirm your last statement, I'm American and crossing borders within the Schengen area when I visited Europe felt a lot like crossing state lines back home - pretty much there's just a sign saying like "Now entering so and so country" and that was it. I think we were asked to show our passports to a cop when entering Czechia and we also had some formalities when entering Switzerland (probably because they're part of Schengen but not the EU), but that was kind of it.

  • @dylives7667
    @dylives7667 Před 2 lety +2

    I will never understand bureaucrats and their love for outdated and extremely inconvenient systems.

    • @WILLIAN_1424
      @WILLIAN_1424 Před 2 lety

      Russia has this since the Tsarist times, it was a good control method, expecially in the Soviet Union were you could be arrested and sent to gulag for not carrying it.

    • @dylives7667
      @dylives7667 Před 2 lety

      @@WILLIAN_1424 I'm still waiting on that 400 page thesis about why is this good for the player.

    • @WILLIAN_1424
      @WILLIAN_1424 Před 2 lety

      @@dylives7667 it's not, welcome to the Soviet Union! lol

  • @DaniiBodega
    @DaniiBodega Před 2 lety

    QR code behind the ear could be next. 1 ear for foreign travel, the other for internal travel lol

  • @darjuz96
    @darjuz96 Před 2 lety +1

    I thounght that itnernal password are needed for eventual acces to the clesed cities.

    • @dvv18
      @dvv18 Před 2 lety

      Not more than you need your driver's license to access Area 51.

  • @rin_etoware_2989
    @rin_etoware_2989 Před 2 lety

    *insert yellow passport joke here*

  • @raymondhsu6407
    @raymondhsu6407 Před 2 lety

    The “internal passport” system would make more sense if you had a different one in each of the republics like Tuva or Buryatia

  • @vke7880
    @vke7880 Před 2 lety +1

    Armenia and Georgia were using ID cards for the long time now. I am sure baltic states are doing it as well, add Ukraine and it is already 6 former USSR states.
    After reading the comments it turned out the Russia is pretty much the only one taking into account that in Belorus ussr still stands strong

    • @Cripalani
      @Cripalani Před 2 lety

      actually, in Belarus there is only one passport lol

  • @TapeLV
    @TapeLV Před 2 lety

    Latvija: "Ti ahujel?"

  • @hes_alive
    @hes_alive Před 2 lety +2

    Now when is the US going to have one standardized ID card instead of 100 different driver’s licenses and state ID cards?!

    • @dvv18
      @dvv18 Před 2 lety +1

      When the Dems fuck up the Constitution completely.

  • @valentinbiktairov5256
    @valentinbiktairov5256 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Fucking two passports and none of them are accepted to leave this damn country xD

  • @TheAllMightyGodofCod
    @TheAllMightyGodofCod Před 9 měsíci +1

    Fun fact: no.
    Over 423 million people don't need any passport to travel to foreign countries and I am one of those lucky one!

  • @diman7963
    @diman7963 Před 2 lety +1

    In republic of Moldova (ex-soviet country) the id card was introduced in 1996.

  • @popcorn82b
    @popcorn82b Před 2 lety +1

    I haven't seen a video off'a you in YEARS holy SHIT you look so DIFFERENT.
    What the FUCK.