Nov. 22: Hot Doe on the Ridge - Shooter Buck in the Chase | Bowhunting Whitetails w/ Bill Winke
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- On Wednesday morning I headed back to the same stand where I shot the buck on November 9 and almost had a repeat performance. There was a hot doe fawn that pulled every buck in the area (eight bucks in the chase line). I also talk about an alternate strategy for approaching morning stands when it is dead still out. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. We hope you are enjoying this great holiday.
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Bill as far as I’m concerned you are the single best source of useful information. Keep doing what you’re doing buddy. I don’t miss an episode! Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.
Totally agree!
You are the best kept it going
Great strategy going in. Better than the alternative earlier. That's a big, smart doe. Probably smarter than all the bucks. Bottom of the bell curve is a best case scenario. I wonder where the bucks ended up?😮
We wondered that too Joseph. I am guessing eventually that doe fawn got tired out and one of the bucks fought off the others for breeding rights. There was only one mature buck in the chase (the one I wanted to shoot) so maybe he ended up with her. I just wish that last run through had been about 30 to 40 yards closer to the stand. Would be have been a much better ending for me! Good luck.
Collin, I greatly appreciate it and I appreciate the other replies and "likes" on this comment. I hope you have a great day and good luck this weekend.
Awesome hunt Bill and cameraman! Lot of learning points here! Thanks for taking me along and nice shot on the doe and good info on coming in after daylight. Best of luck and have a great rest of the Thanksgiving weekend!
Thanks Joe. I hope you had a great Thanksgiving.
That's why i like the doe management to take place in wide open ag fields or food plots. Nice flat ground lol. Thanks for all you do Bill!
Good point. I like the ones you can drive to!
Great show Bill, loved the uphill drag! LOLOL
I am sure glad Carsen was there!
Congrats on the harvest Bill! And thanks for the great Intell!
You are welcome Oscar. Good luck to you and thanks for the comment.
I look forward to each and every one of your videos!
Thanks Zach. I appreciate the comment and the support. Have a great day.
So much knowledge in these videos. When you love what you do, you're real good at it..big doe...
Thanks for the comment. I appreciate it. Have a great day.
I'm so glad you share so much content Bill. I learn a lot watching every video.
Thanks Daniel. I appreciate it. Have a great day and good luck.
Deer train! That poor doe fawn, lol.
Man, they were on her. We weren't able to show the first time we saw her. She ran past the stand on the same lane those first couple bucks came by on - at a dead run. No time to even get the camera on her. I wish she had come back that way because we likely would have gotten that 10 pointer. The chase was about 40 yards too far away. Have a great day.
What awesome and exciting chase footage! Congratulations on the doe harvest. You definitely have the right set up for those shot angles. Now Carson and his family can eat their thanksgiving meal😅! It's always nice seeing Duke tag along! I hope you all had a very happy and blessed thanksgiving! Good luck getting back out this weekend. Hunt safe and God bless!
Thanks Brandon. Hunt safe and God Bless you too.
Carson looked happy about the doe … he usually looks serious & stern 😂
Happy thanksgiving stinky brothers.
Nice doe , nice shot. Once again. 80 lbs is a man’s bow. And keep the doe videos coming.
And when that hot doe comes through , the woods come alive. Great day in the deer woods. Great camera work and great deer dragging skills!! Luke 9:62
Gouch, thanks for the comment. Definitely helps to have these young guys around. I would still be up there dragging that doe if not for Carsen. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving.
Always fun getting deer out in our hills
That is for sure Robert. Couldn't drag her down because that was the wrong direction. Have a great day and thanks for the comment.
Happy Thanksgiving Duke and Bill
Thanks. We both really appreciate it. Have a great day.
Happy thanksgiving to Duke too. 🐶
Duke appreciates you.
Really cool to see bucks still showing rutting behavior and chasing in late November, I hope there's still some of that going on in my neck of the woods here in Western Mass I didn't see much for rutting action this year I'm heading out late this morning early afternoon for the evening night last day of archery here in Mass before shotgun opens up Monday
Yes, that was a great morning. Interesting that it was a doe fawn they were chasing!
Bill, I always look forward to seeing your informative & educational videos. Seems like the majority of “professional” hunters are tight lipped & secretive about giving up any of their hunting strategies. Keep the videos coming & congratulations on all the deer you have harvested. 🦌🦌
Thanks Matt. I appreciate the kind words and the comment. Have a great day and good luck the rest of the season.
Hope you had a happy Thanksgiving. Always nice to see your videos. That was some awesome chasing. I've been out during gun season here in PA at the end of November/ beginning of December and heard that going on in the brush but I've yet to get to see it this late. Glad you got it on camera!
Thanks. I appreciate the comment. Even here I don't see chases like that very often, every few years. It was really cool to watch. That first buck through was really grunting. Good luck.
Bill my new approach this year is around the same time you guys walked in. Seems to work better than going in dark. My deer sightings actually have gone up
I’ve been using grey light to approach my stand locations this year too.
Agreed. I remember some very frustrating trips to my stands in the dark spooking tons of deer. Then out of desperation I decided to wait until I could see. That really worked for me. I think it is a combination of things (more day winds, more animal movement, being able to see, the deer are moving more, etc.) All adds up to them not noticing my passing. Good luck.
WOW That’s a big doe! And a big hill lol Build up a good appetite. Duke is a cool little pup
Thanks feels like an extra bonus vid today
You are right on both counts. I appreciate the comment.
Great hunt Bill, thanks for the updates, try to follow y’all from here in West TN. Nice Doe, I always seem to tell those deer I’m dragging/hauling “you sure ain’t no help!!”
Thanks Greg. No, they just lay there.
Thanks for showing the management aspect of taking does on multiple videos!
I appreciate the comment and support Taylor. Have a great day.
Appreciate the clarification on taking a quartering toward shot, I doubt my setup has the stopping power to make that one happen. Happy Thanksgiving!
That is one giant doe!
She definitely was huge.
Bill, could you cover what you do for scent control as far as washing your clothes, air dry vs dryer sheet, do u use bins vs scent free bag or both, just leave them in their natural or add acorns or scent wafers, etc. looks like not scent loc or scent blocker layers. Curious what your routine is?
Thx,
Matt
Matt, I don't do much now because it is nearly impossible to be scent free with two guys and all gear we have to carry to the tree to film. When I hunted by myself I could beat a lot of the deer wearing a scent containing suit I work on with Ev Tarrell at Cabela's (back then). Ev is the guy who owns the Code of Silence line now. We have talked about making another suit. I could write a book about what I have learned about scent control in the process of designing that thing, but these comment sections aren't long enough. I will produce an off-season episode about it this spring. I know how to beat all the deer all the time, but you have to go to very great extremes. I did it one whole season, never had a deer raise its nose at me even when my wind floaters hit them in the face. It can be done, but not using conventional methods (in my experience). Keeping really clean will allow you to beat some of the deer some of the time, but not a lot better than that. Still worth doing, but not 100% effective. Sometime I will go over what I did and what I learned. I think you will get a kick out of it. Good luck.
Happy Thanksgiving to all the crews n duke.. my Duke, 6 months yellow lab, says greetings.. too
Thanks. Happy Thanksgiving to you too. Duke sends his regards.
Happy thanksgiving stinky brothers!
Bill, I’m always so worried about intruding on the deer that I think I’m to cautious. I’ve seen in some of your other videos you walk in after shooting light. Now riding atv in to get the deer and letting the dogs roam. What are your thoughts on this or maybe do an episode after soon on this subject
You can run them out with the 4 wheeler and they forgive that much faster than getting caught walking through. Also, I don't plan to hunt back there anymore this year as I don't want to burn it out. The rest of the season will be on the food plots. Almost got him, so it was worth the try. Also, it is important to note that the dogs and the 4 wheeler have been back in there at least 10 times during the summer and into September. So, it is not a huge deal for the deer to hear us or see us coming through. Again, they will run off, but they forgive that very quickly. Good luck.
Big doe! Good job helping old man Bill Carson lol
I need all the help I can get. At Thanksgiving time I was thankful for Carsen!
Legend right there
Thanks William. I appreciate the support and the comment. Have a great day.
I’m sure it’s nice to have them young bucks there to do all the easy work 😂😂😂
Absolutely. Not sure what I would have done with that doe had I been hunting alone.
nice big doe, yep sometimes they go down in the worst places. shot a buck in kentucky my home state once , the buck took a dive off a forty foot bluff, desrtoyed his beautiful rack , had to pull him up the bluff with a rope right on the bank of the ohio river. took several men to do it
Wow, that is crazy Bill. That recovery alone would be the adventure of the season. Good job.
She was a big doe! They make us work sometimes for it!
She definitely made us work. It was nothing for young Carsen, but that was about all I could do. I would hate to have had to get her out on my own.
That's a giant doe. Way bigger than VA deer.
That was a really big doe even for this area. Thanks for the comment.
Very nice doe Bill, great video as always.
Thanks Mitchell. I hope you had a great Thanksgiving.
Absolutely love the videos keep up the great work 👍
Thanks for the comment and the support Jason. Have a great weekend.
Addendum; Good thing Carson is young! LOL
Agreed. I would have had to eat that doe on the spot rather than try to drag her out!
another awesome episode Bill. thanks as always for sharing your time and knowledge. I would love youre solution for a short draw length hunter having trouble with penetration. draw weight is maxed at 70 and I shoot 100 grain cut on contacts. what the heck do i do!? love ya Bill!!!
A small cutting diameter broadhead, a small diameter arrow, increased arrow weight are the main things you can do. Beyond that, just increasing your draw weight is about all you can do to gain penetration. Good luck.
That was a BIG doe!!!
Lonnie, she was huge, even for this area.
@@bill-winke Some good eating for sure!
Legend
Thanks for the support and comment Jarrod. Good luck.
Can we please get a stinky brothers t-shirt??!!! 😂
Now you are talking. We will try to find some kind of shirt fabric that has an odor to it so you get the full effect.
Bill how do you think leaving gut piles affects the other deer? I have a 100 acre parcel in a heavily hunted area. I try to gut the doe I shoot back at the barn instead of leaving them near a bedding area. Typically coyotes clean them up within a couple days so maybe that is unnecasary? What do you think?
Good footage of the chase and that doe seemed nice and fat. Should be good eating. Any thoughts on what two rubs close together like that tells a person? Just that the buck(s) frequent the area?
Thanks. I think rubs are only useful shortly after they are made. Rubs are usually not visited often Ike scrapes are. They can be a great indicator of where to hunt in early October but not as useful after that.
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That's the worst part of hunting these hills. I had a device made with a boat trailer crank winch that straps to a tree with 50 ft of winch line on it. When you get them cranked up let the line out and move the bracket up the hill until you can use the 4 wheels winch. If you want to see it let me know. I'm by myself so I need all the help I can get
Tom, I appreciate it. As long as I am filming I will always have one of these young guys around to do that tugging! Not sure what I would have done without Carsen. I will take you up on that offer though once I quit filming again someday. Have a great day.
With those massive rubs, wondering if you’ve got a buck your not aware of yet…finally killed a good buck Nov. 20th Ohio, wasn’t looking good before that. Heading back to Missouri public next week for a second time 🤞🏻
I am guessing those were made by that buck I killed on the 9th back there. They were fresh then and have not been hit since we were in there two weeks ago. Good luck in MO.
Dream Big brother 🙏
You too Edward.
Awesome footage! If she blows she goes.
Exactly. Leave no witnesses.
Definitely their revenge! Never fails
Exactly. They find the nasty places to fall into when they die.
Good video guys,nice doe.How long do you think a buck will stay with a hot doe.I watched a buck mating a doe this morning,hoping he stays with her a couple days or even one more day.
I am sure it varies but biologists say it can be up to 2 days.
What state is your farm in not looking for any exact location but your rut season dates and weather look very similar to mine just wondering how much i can use your dates and predictions in my hunts
We are in Iowa. Good luck.
My doe goal is five, max I’m allowed. Number two went in the freezer today. It was The only deer I saw yesterday. 17 degrees tonight hope it pushes them into a new pattern of getting to the food.
i dont shoot does, i like a large deer population, i did have 2 does come to my doe decoy this morning and sniffed and licked it. didn't see a thing this evening.
New and still learning. Are you not concerned about the dog scent all up in the bedding area? I have tried really hard at keeping my dogs away from my hunting area. Interested on your take there.
Deer aren't really afraid of the dogs. I am running the deer out myself with the 4 wheeler so the only exposure the deer get to the dogs is ground scent. I am sure that is not a big deal to them. As long as dogs don't chase the deer the deer don't pay them a ton of attention. In southern Iowa our dogs were free range. They roamed about a 10 to 20 acre area near our house. One of my best stands was in that area. I believe as long as the dogs aren't in there often and aren't chasing deer it is not overly damaging.
Bottom line: I don't think it hurts my chances at all.
Now that it's colder are those stands for noise. Are they squeaky
The only speaks I get are where the stands aren't well secured to the tree and they squeak against the tree.
Bill do they allow you to earn a buck in Minnesota? In Wisconsin we only get 1 buck tag during bow hunting.
Not sure. I am hunting in Iowa.
No clue why I said Minnesota, my apologies. Do they have earn a buck in Iowa?
Is 2XL the largest T-Shirts you have in stock?
Yes, those are the biggest ones we have. Thanks for asking.
Good hunt , a big doe too good eating , youll need it after the drag
Amen Donald. We are going to grill up the backstraps tomorrow. Coated with Traeger Big Game rub and grilled to an internal temperature of 135 degrees. Hard to go wrong. It is so good - and very healthy. Have a great day.
@@bill-winke just don no ald lol
Bill how many acres is your farm?
Between myself and my sister and her husband we have a combined 600 acres.
I recently found by trail an error sneaking through the dry leaves spooked deer more than if I lightly jogged to and from my stand especially during the rut cause there chasing around anyways just my theory
Good solution. My spot was about 1/4 mile up through the draw, all uphill. In my current shape (or lack thereof), I would have made it about 100 yards! I have a friend in Kansas who hunts little creeks and he does what you found. He runs to the tree making all kinds of noise and then quickly gets up into it because if there is a buck nearby he says it will come and check it out right away.
@@bill-winke yeah old man told me if you walk in the woods like an predator deer pick up on that real quick. I tried raking the leaves the my stand but 4 days later covered back up lol
I’ve done that already ,a few years ago. I think it does work. A guy I hunted with said he likes to try to sound like a squirrel on his way in . A few quick short steps followed by a short silence. I think we’re kinda heavy to actually replicate a squirrel but maybe the “ rhythm “ could fool a deer on the periphery of your zone. Who knows?
Would field dressing it where the doe was found ruin the area?
I have not ever seen that. Many times I have hunted a stand where I gutted a doe the day before and the activity was still very good.
@@bill-winke Ok, I've always dragged the deer away from my hunting area before gutting it, also to keep the coyotes away from your hunting spot
How many deer are you allowed to shoot?
We have county quotas so as long as the quota has not been met you can keep buying doe tags.
Nice doe. Get them legs up over her ears crisscrossed. Makes it a bit easier. Happy Thanksgiving 🦃
I feel like I hear my dad telling me that!😂😂😂
@@richardconnell2982 your dad must be a smart man. 🤣🤣🤣
You are right. That would have made it much easier. In the end, what worked best for us was me pulling the handle and Carsen pulling on one of her front legs. We made good time when we switched to that method. Didn't show it because we were too busy pulling! Have a great day and thanks for the comment.
Why'd you pull her up? Just go down the hill 🤔
That was the opposite direction from the buildings. We would have had to climb back up the ridge to get back to the buildings.
Isn’t it a bad idea to have dogs walking around ? They also get sent on you , no wonder the deer smell you
Say bill we up north of you in mn sure could use your help we have probably over 10000 wolves destroying the whole north woods we have mdha the biggest organization and lieres promoting wolves to our children at the deer classic it would be awesome if you could come and speak at a event if there's one in southern mn northern mn is destroyed if you see a deer in 10 days is a miracle it's heart breaking please help us in this fight please please join h4h
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Thanks Kurt. Much appreciated.
I believe he was your old neighbor. Roger R. always said the best big buck hunting starts nov.20.
Yes, he was my neighbor down in southern Iowa. He sure killed a lot of bucks with those stickbows! Have a great day.
best regards to you and yours.@@bill-winke
Yeah, that was a terrible shot angle, and you know it. Lots of bad stuff can happen in that situation. Hate wounding anything! I've learned to wait for that double lung shot, or I'm not shooting.
I explained why I took it The doe died in 100 yards. I am not telling you to do it but it is totally ethical with the equipment I am using.
He took out her vitals and was in open timber with camera footage to mark her leaving. Even if he had no blood trail at all that deer isn't going to take 3 minutes to find.