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Morbidelli Is not very Happy for this
Rumors say he's going to VR46? If so, maybe he doesn't give a $#!+ about parmac going to yamaha.
The look on his face suggests he has already worked something out.
Morbidelli is not very motivated
Yes rumour from today at Assen he’s going to replace Bezz
Not sure...Rossi (& academy) was always a Yamaha guy and his relation with Ducati, was never that good.
I believe that VR 46 needed a good bike to start (we all remember the mess at the beginning) and, for me, Rossi is preparing a move of VR 46 to Yamaha in the future.
For the moment, Ducati contract with Marc, only gave them trouble and confusion, do not see any problem of Morbi to stay in Yamaha satellite...
@@pedrocostareis8330
Morbidelli certainly won’t be staying on a Yamaha, Yamaha certainly don’t want him
Pramac will be announced as a Yamaha team this weekend
It'll be nice to have a couple less Ducatis on the grid. They make up half of it already.
You don’t want the bike/team that’s been fighting for wins and the championship the last couple of seasons?
💯
You can’t use logic with Duc haters
@@sburns2421 I don't hate Ducati, I'd just like a little more diversity among the bikes on the grid. Ducati literally make up half of it right now. Ideally we'd have Suzuki and Kawasaki come back but that probably won't ever happen. We MIGHT get BMW by 2027 with the new rules but they haven't managed a World Superbike title yet. Though Toprak may well deliver this year which they need since he might be leaving for Honda next year, either in GP or WSBK according to rumors. Or he's angling for a bigger paycheck from BMW with the Honda rumors.
@@brentbartley6838 8 out of 22 isn't half but I get your point. More than half the field (Ducati, KTM, Aprilia) are capable of winning races. Move two to Yamaha and now you have 8 bikes at the back of the grid.
Pramac entered the MotoGP world championship in 2002 racing Honda bikes. In 2005 it moved to race with Ducati by partnering with the D'Antin Racing structure, starting a long trajectory of comings and goings in the championship, until in 2018, with Jack Miller and Danilo Petrucci in its ranks it became the best independent team.
So they built up the Ducati with the Lenovo team
A few more Japanese bikes would be great. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
So looking forward to the racing this weekend... As for the Yamaha switch... Why not with the new regs coming in next year....💚🇬🇧🌱
Yeah, not next year. New rules and reduced engine displacement starts in 2027. So two more seasons as is.
Because they aren’t
Great show !!
Amy & Keith.. as always brilliant talk, asking all the stuff I want to know.. keep it going.. Thanks
3 weeks off ,2 back,then 5 off... f ridiculous
VR Academy will take care of Morbidelli . He will get a place on VR Team
Yeah Morbidelli is in Vr 46 academy and great friend of V.Rossi he will maybe be in vr46 2025
Yamaha must be hoping that Pramacs Ducati knowledge will rub off - a great signing for Yamaha.
Test team that’s all it is…probably paying Pramac to run their bikes
@@greatcornholio5541
Full Factory bikes, everything paid including rider’s salary
Full Factory bikes full support from Yamaha
I think a relaxed Martin will kick everyone butt this weekend
Is the MotoGP season still going on? I heard they were transitioning into a all drama format with no racing.
They should bring back the 1983 Assen track 😊
I do hope this is the UP for Yamaha...it will be nice to see ! Would Suzuki return ??
Now you know why 93 said Pramac is not an option for him...
The owner of Pramac has already Stated if Marquez had said yes to his team they would have stayed with Ducati
@@macsmith6216 and KTM told Jack Miller he was safe. Yamaha have previously stated that they would not consider 93, as indeed have Ducati. You cannot believe everything they say in public. Let's see if we get a "Morbidelli staying at Pramac" announcement.
@@DaveVids101
Well take it up with Paolo Campinoti Pramac’s owner he said it in an interview this week unless you’re calling him a liar
Marc said he wouldn’t ride for Pramac Ducati because he knew that left them with no other option, Factory team or he went elsewhere
He called their bluff and he won, as he said on Thursday his plan worked
Has Campinoti ever said he offered 93 a seat?
They've signed a 7 year deal with Yamaha and I find it hard to imagine that it happened because of 93.
If 93 wanted to issue an ultimatum to Ducati, he wouldn't have pussy footed around. My thoughts are that he was never offered Pramac because Yamaha would never have taken him.
As for calling him a liar, every senior executive is a liar because they are bound by confidentiality between parties.
Have you been living under a rock Even Ducati management said on TNT sports Marc was offered a seat at Pramac
Crawl back under your rock, before you go try and read up on the subject before commenting
Miller to Gresini?
It’s all about the show.
And it's a bit of a coincidence that 21 slid across to Pramac this season. Will we see a "Frankie re-signs for Pramac" announcement soon... 🤔🤔🤔
Pramac has made the announcement they have left Ducati
And the Pramac boss wants Iannone to test for Yamaha
Doesn’t look like Morbidelli will be staying at Yamaha
I heard that Jack will be racing with Alex marten as his partner but who knows their is so much happening,I mean joining with Yamaha as factory satellite,so we shall see
Great podcast and I know Keith doesn't talk over Amy on purpose. because I'm pretty certain his wife and daughters would keep him in line if he did 🤣😉
Every day mate, every day 😂
Keith can y guys please get Hamilton for an interview? He loves MOTOGP and i'm sure he will have a lot to say ..
About F1 no thanks
What a great idea! Yes.
@@macsmith6216
Hamilton is a racer.
Yes cars and bikes are different, but both Moto GP and F1 racers have to have phenomenal feel and control to be anything like on pace.
The car world isn't my thing, but it might be interesting to hear from a racer from a different discipline.
@@pauln6803
Then go onto the F1 sites you’ll find it there
@@pauln6803about what
Keith you're blushing.
Good thing is more fair so not many Ducati on race. Honda and Yamaha need to kick up the race bike
Keith, you look better for not having tattoos.
my prediction, sprite race 1st Marc, Pedro, Jorge. full race. 1st Francesco, Jorge and Marc
Would this mean that VR46 get up to date bikes then?
That’s the rumour
But it’s wrong Gresini are next in line
@@macsmith6216After Nadia's public outburst at Ducati the smart money would suggest that vr46 will get the second factory bikes, but this year's silly season has been the craziest yet
@@alexanderclarke2774
What outburst was that?
@@macsmith6216 it was a news feed from the race or gpone, apparently she was furious at losing Marc and the chance for a 2025 factory bike, might be why she signed miller just to give Ducati a headache with what to do with Aldiger
@@alexanderclarke2774
Looked for it everywhere, the only place that says this is videos on here and they post absolute 💩 made up headlines
Why would parmac move to yamaha? Money 🤑
Absolutely.
The Rumour is Prima will only be the teams main sponsor if Pramac had Ducati’s
Yes Yamaha is rumoured to be paying Pramac shedloads of money
Plus Pramac now have no top riders for their bikes, Marc wouldn’t ride for team and Martin has also left
@@macsmith6216Pramac Yamaha may get Rins if Toprak news is true.
@@rishiA7x
Toprak is being linked with Honda not Yamaha
As well and $$, I assume Parmac wanted to extend their contact to get current year bikes past the next two years and Ducati wouldn't give them that. Maybe Ducati wants to move VR46 into that role if only for better branding/sales. How many years of free current year fully supported factory bikes would Yamaha need to guarantee to get Pramac to switch?
Yep, need to move away from ducati and get the japanese bikes competitive.
Ducati have broken the trust of pramac and gresini with signing mark it’s a big gamble just to think it’s to do with new bikes sorry but it’s a trust issue maverick has not done enough for me especially if bez was looking to move he doesn’t like Marquez and he will see it as a insult to sign him to factory team in front of him Ducati have pissed a lot of people off and I totally see it they were already winning and didn’t need to go with mark it just showed a lack of faith in their riders even though pecco had won the last two championships and Jorge was the second best and the pramac team was better now they have lost bez Jorge and a team maybe more if stuff comes true
The main reason Ducati signed Marquez because under no circumstances could they have him riding for another manufacturer and probably beating them
Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer
The reason for all these shock announcements comes from Pramac and Pramac only. Marc stated he would have stayed with Gresini on a 25 spec bike, but Pramac blocked the idea. Now they’re switching to Yamaha. They screwed the market. They were offended and butthurt over Marc not wanting to sign with them
@@br1anzkilLs
Would he? He said yesterday at the Dutch press conference he had a plan when he joined Gresini. Yesterday he was asked had his plan worked, and he confirmed it had and the plan was to be in the Factory team racing in red next season
Pramac never blocked the idea, their contract was for two up to date Factory bikes. Marc knew Gresini couldn’t get Factory bikes so could easily say that. Ducati thought they’d put Marquez in Pramac and Martin in the Factory team and they had the best of both worlds.
Marquez had his own plan and that wasn’t it
He called their bluff and won
So Pramac was going to be left with no Marquez and no Martin
They’d have Aldeguer and maybe Morbidelli, or a huge financial package from Yamaha
Looks like they’ve picked Yamaha
Other rumour coming out about this is Prima, Pramac’s main sponsor would only remain if the team ran Ducati’s
NO mm93 said he would go to pramac then changed his mind martin on factory Marquez on pramac fit all the sponsors ect .MM93 forced Ducatis hand
Pramac losing Jorge Martín made the switch to Yamaha a fait accompli. Why pay millions of euros more for a championship caliber bike like Ducati when they don't have a rider that can win a world championship?
Why is Yamaha not going to VR46 , Ducati has been with Pramac forever, don’t like relationships like that broken for just few more $. Didn’t like Tech3 leaving Yamaha or the Gresini leaving Honda.
As someone said, running a race team is a quick way to turn a large pile of cash into a small one.
Hate to say it, but many team owners/investors lose quite a bit of money and sometimes the team has to go with the £$€¥ because of financial reasons.
Nobody involved in the sport really does it for financial gain, but there's a point where the team would rather lose less money, so if a factory reaches out to them...
Because Pramac is the better more experienced team
Tech3 took a chance and it’s paid off so has Gresini, don’t forget these teams are a business at the end of the day
And...Assen, a classic 6.7 km circuit ruined by motogp officials.
Yamaha will bounce back. It wasn't that long ago since they had the championship. Ducati took 15 years to get another championship while Honda and Yamaha had plenty
I'm thinking KTM and Aprilia are really not that good and Pedro Acosta is not even come near to being a world champion with them unless there's a big development Martin has made a wrong decision
What else was he going to do?
@@macsmith6216 stay where he was he would have the bike to compete on.theres a lot of talk about Aprilia/KTM but they haven't really came to the for yet it's all Ducati. But people like Honda/Yamaha are not going to throw good money at Moto gp yet until the rules change then we will see a change to front runner's instead of the Ducati Cup. That's my feelings
@@user-ce7xw3fx6q
Unfortunately Martin made an announcement before all this, that if he didn’t get the Factory seat he would leave Ducati altogether and ride for another Factory team
So he had to stick to his word or eat humble pie, and good on him he stuck to his word
Yamaha and Honda are throwing shed loads of money at it right now, certainly ain’t waiting until the rule changes
Honda and Yamaha are not throwing shed load at the present bike I think you will find at the 2027 bike come out winning straight away. At the moment anyone riding anything else other than a Ducati just as well stay at home coz if they get higher than 4th that would be a bonus
@@user-ce7xw3fx6q
Then you know SFA about what’s going on
Yamaha are paying Pramac to run their bikes, paying everything including riders salaries it’s unheard of
We have another two and half seasons to go before rule changes you think Honda and Yamaha are going to run around at the back of the pack until then
Give yer head a shake
Cuz, Yamaha Will have better engine in 25, far better then anybody think,and ,,,, toprak on jamaha in pramac,,, simple as that
It must be shit decision month. So many teams are making wrong decisions.
It s Crazy race for this competicion
Lol. Didn't see any of these rider swaps coming.
The rider style to bike pairing don't make much sense, and duc letting Martin go? So many $#!+ decisions 😂
@4:36
$#!+ decision by one party, but a stroke of genius for the other.
Yamaha did just land the best satellite team on the grid.
@@gasracing5000
With no top riders
Pramac will now be running mid pack at best
@@macsmith6216yes I think it would take some kind of miracle for Yamaha to turn their fortunes around to give pramac a race winning bike for next season
IS SHE jacks sister
No
Chris Vermulen’s sister
@@macsmith6216 hey yeah i know the other lady is his sister, was asking about this lady as she does look a bit like jack the motogp presenter
@@supaflyracingza
No, if she looks like Jack you need to book an appointment with an optician
@@macsmith6216 🤣
Martin may want to stick it to Ducati so much that he starts to bin it.
No he is going to win the championship this year! Pecco is going to be stressed out to win this year because Marc is coming next year
I think if anyone will keep cool with MM around it's Pecco. He's a machine. @@kennedyracing7527
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Too much politics & red-tape involved at Ducati. Part of the reason J Martin jumped ship...
Martin had no other options
With f1 coming in
Maybe some of there cash should pay out for an extra
Class
Now we have
Moto 3' 2 & the main GP
Why not have moto 3'2 & amid moto 2 main with one year old bikes for the newbies
The way things are going we're not going to see an though of the guys we want to see
Young boy's are coming in to fast
Its losing its appeal .
There’s not enough time over the weekend already without adding an extra class
Viewing and attendance figures all on the up so it certainly not losing up its appeal
this is exactly what happened. Marc signed with Ducati Martin threw a temper tantrum signed with Aprillia, Maverick threw a temper tantrum signed with KTM Pramac lost Martin threw a temper tantrum signed with Yamaha. I haven't seen this many tears from grown men since 2015.
Ducati coughing up millions for MM (reportedly) tells me he was always their first choice. They just hoped he would accept Pramac do they could keep Martin too
Martin had nowhere to go at Ducati
Rumours coming out of Assen Maverick was about to be pushed so he jumped first
Pramac have no top riders for their bikes after all that and it now emerges if true Yamaha are meeting all costs of running Pramac including rider’s salary
Which is very unusual
Yes the most expensive time for all of the teams and manufacturers. Just a brilliant plan by the executives at mpgp. Maybe this will flush out a couple more of the current manufacturers and be an obstacle for any new ones. Just an idea but maybe they should have started with cutting back on a few of the aero before making everyone develop all new engine specs.
Makes me wonder where these people were educated. Well it’s not the education necessarily it the strategic thinking. Just consider they made these changes and the racing is worse. Then there goes your fans or you lose your fan base. They need to stop considering climate change and all that nonsense because what they are doing is entertainment. If movies and music when green they go out of business. I watch sports to see the best not some idiotic bull.
They better get their head out of their backside before it’s too late.
What are you on about. The engines will be smaller because they are now making 300hp PLUS. Nothing to do with climate change, calm down
What is it you do for a living
Run a successful multi million €$£ business like these uneducated people you’re talking about
Keyboard warriors don’t you just love them
Miller is nowhere near the talent of the other racers you mention in this video.he can be fun but don't belong in this elite class
Triumph Norton MV Agusta and anyother brand of motorcycle should be on the grind Instead of What is on offer at the moment
Triumph has no large sports bikes to sell, Norton is loosing money hand over fist and MV Augusta is owned by the same group that owns KTM
So highly unlikely any of them will ever be in Motogp
MV might be another rebranded KTM
@@macsmith6216 It is a pity that there are not more manufacturers in moto gp Like the good old days That is all I am saying Like the BEARS racing series That use tobe hear in Australia