22R to EV Swap: 1981 Toyota Pickup Hilux 4x4 All Electric Conversion with Hyper9 motor Tesla Battery
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2022
- Project Toyvolta:
We started with a bone stock 1981 Toyota Pickup 4x4 with a 5 speed 22r motor and converted it to an all electric drivetrain. Including power steering and air conditioning.
The end result is a truck that is not only faster, but more reliable.
Motor: 144 KV Hyper9
Charging: 3.3 KWH Elcon
Adapter: Flash Drive Motors
Transmission: Original Toyota
Batteries: 7 Tesla Modules
For more details or to do a conversion:
Flash Drive Motors
flashdrivemotors.com/
#tesla #toyota #hilux - Zábava
So cool! Great job!!!! I’ve got a 22R Toyota that just hit 200K so not touching that baby BUT I’ve been thinking about this with an engine for EV West for a mid 80s 4Runner. This looks even better though I’m just wondering about the brakes. Did y’all do a conversion with that? I’ve heard they can be problematic with conversions.
Btw I once brought this idea up in an environmental science lecture in 2014 as the speaker was comparing C02 emissions of a brand new Prius (with the whole manufacturing process) to a older gasoline vehicle.
I curiously said: “why can’t we just take older cars and swap out the gas engines with electric ones?”.
He said it was impossible, and it would never happen. I was young and naive, now I say f*ck the naysayers - they’ll always exist.
Reduce reuse recycle. Old car Conversions are awesome. That old steel has plenty of life left in it. For the brakes you need an electric vacuum pump and a reservoir. I used a capped 4" pvc pipe about 2 ft long for a reservoir. It was good for a panic stop and maybe 2 more full presses on the brake before the power assist felt weak. Took about 10 sec to recover vacuum after that. So on the road it felt safe but rock crawling or racing I would have wanted more reservoir capacity or a larger vac pump. If you keep the transmission and clutch and set the motor to "idle" you can use a belt driven vac pump.
Or you could go hydro boost instead of vacuum
That 22r sure is a great and reliable motor though! Curious about the build because interested in converting a Suzuki Samurai.
@@20tea the 22re's reliability is based on its ability to be leaking and broken the entire time you own it without dying. 😄
how about gas generator, smal battery, and electric drive? lighter, cheapee to run pprobably. reason why i dont liek electric car is that battery degradation and lack of battery recyling. dendrites that forms from battery degradation is messes with recyalability too. if you look at sandy munroe video caled wjats insize 680 battery, there could be indicator of how much of battery can be recycled by mechnaical seperation vs what chemical process would be needed, woudl it be susntinable process? recycling company called redwood. even if they fix this problem, will they dig through trash to find enviromentally damaged (rust, mud,etc) dead car batteries currently being dumped, and recycle them? in emissions, best hting to do is a ca rof where rear seats face the rear as comcpact 4 seate rreplacing 2+2 seater cars and yaris corolla cars, and rear mid engine small combustion flat 2 cylinder wnith no rotatiing parts to send power to wheels, instead magnets moving back and forth make electricty aand or a little supplemnetary compressed air , to power electric drive and compressed air driver, possibly with no battery or at minimal battery, using supercapacitor etc. single combustion chamber would help preserve heat for optimally low emissions or effeincy, hydrallic switch will push pistons back to position so they can be pushed by combustion.. optimal combustions per second for emissions with electric and mechnaical hybrid turbocharger, sometimes engine will run beyond optimal effiency or emissions levels for unsuually high power demand to protect long term emissiosn and fuel use reduction effetiveness of battery for common lower power use. with limited batterys to use, hybrids are already more effceint effective at reducing emissions, vs using that battery material for fewer cars who are electric cars, becaue most emissions happens in low speed high pushing power sitatuaitons of combustion car, where emissions are most likley to chemicaly harm health of nearby people becaue its usually compact city area with many people nearby. what battery size is best for longevity? see tony hellers climate change videos, maybe somone can make use of suspicious observers videos. mahle says they are developing non magnets motor, so its more recyclable and cheaper.. see aptera owners club video on saftey, unqiue materials they use, lightweight is safer to peopel outsid ethe car but can be safe for people inside car compared to hevaier caar if using right materials, and even safer due to wat type of crash is more likley to happen.. linearly more lighter weight exponentially causes less road wear damage causing less resurces and emissions and road downtimes. ..... the low weight compared to structrual strength and crash energy absorption, makes its safer per costs ,. the weight lower to ground (if that is how its still done) can make it preserve momentum around turns more, which is more energy effceint than relying on regenerative braking, and battery, brakes, lubrication, etc would last longer. tires longveity may not be affected despite higher speed and fun of preserving momentum with minimum g forces . .... in effeincy per functionality, rear seats facing rear in sompact 4 seater woudl make more sense. solarpanel effeincy is only arouund 20 percent and can become lot better if u want lower emissons(whch only helpful for heath of pepe wh send mhme near heavy traffic roads), then using mited batteyr supply for hybrids is lower emson than using the suppply for fewer cars whch are eletric car. big batteyr means exppnentially less effceint, so the more energy going in and out the battery means worse battery degradation, but more parraleles of battery reduce battery degradation... so more battery is not better, theres a balance to be had. see videos by tony heller, and suspicious observers videos on climte change and romanian tvee video called why woke wont go broke and leather aprons clubs video called a parabel on banking... theres a lot of reason to be suspicious and not much way to verify claims that climate change si caused by humans.
Would've liked to see more of the fabrication process and the actual build instead of movie and interview clips
I second that 👏
That would make a great second video if he has the footage
have they posted that video yet? thats what we were really looking for lol
Specifically how the ac compressor, brakes etc are powered.
More specifics.
Kudos for building something that's 'just fast enough'! Not everything has to have 800hp or do 0-60 in 3 sec. You've got something that will keep up with modern traffic and it still looks pretty stock. Nice work!
Thanks!
Thats insane ! Never heard a EV shift gears before ! Sounds awesome 👍
yes it is
That’s because the hyper9 motor bolts onto the transmission with an adapter plate. Modern EVs don’t have transmissions. You lose some of that power and efficiency by keeping the transmission and driveshaft, versus using the modern axle motors.
The sound is nice, but getting rid of the transmission and driveshaft makes it possible to cram more batteries inside the frame. And a truck like that makes the perfect platform for Tesla Model 3/Y batteries, which are longer than the S/Y batteries
And I don't know how strong the electric engine they put in is, but they could probably just start in some higher gear to begin with. Usually no need use lower gears, unless it's a weak engine or you are towing something.
Man this sure would have been such a good video series.
I wish we had taken more footage along the way. We might do a follow up showing how it does during actual real world conditions.
@Diss Repair better yet how much to do a 84 720 nissan?
I’m happy to see videos like these. This is the future swap once my Toyota engine gets tired. 20 more years and I’m doing this! Might be worth it if I knew how much this costs? My ‘21 Sequoia is very thirsty.
Conversion makes a lot of sense for old vehicles like this which most people wouldn't take long trips in. For running around town, or short trail runs this is awesome.
Everyone pushing EV’s keeps trying to convince themselves, and everyone else, that most people don’t need to rely on their vehicles for anything but 5 min trips to the store. Cold weather, hills, desert, long range trips etc, are all things that make these things not only unfeasible, but potentially deadly. I haven’t seen a single EV that comes close to its claimed range, with any of the variables mentioned above. Family of 4 or 5? 30% loss. Below 32F? 30-50% loss. Above 100F and live near mountains with 4 in the car? Just forget about it.
@@apacheworrier3776 This is just the start of electric vehicles, I LOVE my gas and diesel vehicles, But it has taken 137 years to get gas vehicles to where they are now, and I bet within the next 25-30 years, electric vehicles will surpass what the majority of gas and diesel vehicles can do, so I can only imagine what EVs will be capable of in the next 100 years.
Awesome conversion! Glad you kept the transmission-that really helps performance.
This is awesome. I've been searching for an EV conversion on this specific model.
Now I want that done to my 91 3.slow. Great work!
I quite like the intro and movie clips. Crosses over with nostalgia and memorable scenes to convince the audience this is doable _and_ cool
Nice, fantastic I love that someone does what I dream of.
Rich Rebuilds did both ev conversion and a Tesla fuel conversion just for fun and he realized it is much easier to make an ev conversion than the other way round
I had a truck just like this when I was a teenager. It was my first ride. Loved it.
This is the kind of stuff I wanna see a ton of in the future! I would love to convert my 02 pathfinder, I just wanna be able to keep my all wheel drive!
Amazing, thanks for your video 😀
Without the leaking exhaust noise I bet the speedometer cable noise is deafening. Nice conversion. Probably makes an amazing crawler now too!
I love this conversion. I’m currently build an 88 4x4 Toyota chinook 🍻
if you have vid, please link as it is exactly my thought on my dolphin with a blown motor
Soooooooooooo frikikin cool !!!!! ... The shifts, the sounds, the power being just right. Well done folks count me in subbed! underrated channel right here.
Sounds so futuristic!
Such an amazing job!!! I love my 04 Silverado regular cab and wish I knew half of what you all do so I could be brave enough to turn it into an EV and give it new life :)
Thanks for video!
great job. Hugs from Brazil!
😉
Great vid! My 1st favourite vehicle when i was small after watching Back to the future in the cinema in the 80s 💚⚡🔋
Great Video!
5:34 that’s the first time I’ve ever seen anyone shift on an EV swap before and it was really awesome. Imagine this swap in a car already built for handling and speed? I know what toy I want in the future now.
The manual transmission is a fun feature on these swaps. You can still row through the gears and maximize the torque and chirp the tires.
Yeah that should tow a lot and still keep motor cool. Also much of torque for offroading. I would like to convert Mitsubishi pajero because electric cars that can tow cost so much and you can't take them offroading.@@dissrepair
@@dissrepairno clutch right? So you can just power shift it when you left off the throttle? And then select whatever gear you want when stopped?
Good job! Need more old school electric cars
Nice video and there was even a glimpse of my Beetle!
You beetle is a star in its own right!
love love love this I want this to become my hobby
Well done!!
Nicely done
Love this project
Thanks - more to come
That’s a beautiful old Toyota.
Man! I wish I had the funds to do this to my 93 pickup! So cool
This is awesome!
Great job
Great Video.
I did my 720 Nissan year and half ago! It's amazing.
They are a great upgrade
I used to have an RN38 just like that one. I miss it so much.
This is AWESOME!!!
You did what EV WEST has yet to complete, inspired!
Great Idea !
Very cool!
This is awsome 💪
Love it.
love those trucks, I worked on many. the 22re was a better engine, efi fixed some of the issues they had. cool video. thanks
Thank you for making a video packed FULL of relevant and enjoyable content that isn't so long and drawn out. Videos like this are perfect for people with adhd.
good job guys! you save the Earth!
Beautiful truck.
Hello Stephen how are you doing 😊
Awesome, I'll take it!
great idea , snart man , hug from brasil
Awesome!
As a manual transmission fan, I would much prefer something like this to the zero transmission variants currently being offered by Tesla and everyone else building EVs. I recall seeing someone do a conversion like this with a corvette, leaving the manual transmission in place, and the owner said it was fantastic. The joy of driving manual, plus electric torque and reliability...it's a great thing. Unfortunately, the HV Hyper 9 only makes about 120 HP, so great for this truck, but not so much on a muscle car or sports car. Wonder if anyone has ever bolted an actual Tesla motor to a manual transmission?
@@neuralgarden - True. That could definitely be done, providing there's enough space for the 2nd motor.
@@meadmaker4525 Wait, EV's CAN have manual transmission??
I used to want a black Toyota Pickup like that in the 90s. Had a T100 but it was more of a work truck than a fun truck.
Nice!
This thing is awesome! So happy to know it’s possible to make this type of build a reality. Hope ya’ll are well 🙏🏼
Should have left the 22R, put the electric motor in front of the rear dif and the battery in the bed. Use the 22R as a generator.
I love it ❤️
Love it. My first EV: a 1982 Jet Electrica by Jet Industries. My current EV: a 2014 Fiat 500e.
Very Cool!!!! I would love to be in on a project like this!!
This is a really cool project especially for a older truck, You guys did a awesome job!
I'm doing a EV conversion too on a 2020 Ford Ranger using a Tesla Model 3 Donor.
I will be trying to keep the Ford system stock and only having the Tesla as drivetrain.
I will have to make a custom frame to hold the battery pack and the subframes with motor.
I just hope I can do as good a job as you guys did with this truck!
Take it easy guys,
Casey
Thanks Casey, good luck on your build. Sounds pretty awesome!
Around 44 Kwh or by my reckoning 150-180km of range (93-110miles). It's ok for a city or local driver. I assume you can get more in there though if asked for. It's a nice conversion guys. Keep it up.
We are going to do a follow up with more tech. So keep watching and we will have that soon. Thanks for watching
Bro how often do you drive more than 100 miles in a day?
I think EV's have a much brighter future in urban environments. We live in a very rural area, and its a 120 mile round trip to the nearest Walmart or place of any population ~45,000. Where we live I think IC engines will always be the norm. My contracting business would service several locations in a day and it was very common to drive ~300 miles in a day in very back road areas.
@@douglasburnum9722 what percent of the population is in your shoes ?
@@LemonySnicket-EUC , Probably less than 20%. We have to drive ~250 miles to get to a area of population >100k people. Family members from Seattle would take pictures of the wide expanse of nothingness. They said it’s really difficult for their friends who have always been in Seattle to imagine the wide open spaces. Being able to see for tens of miles to the horizon without any buildings or structures blocking the view.
What an amazing build. And SOOO clean on the install. Fantastic work guys!
Absolutely love it. Had the same idea but the budget is missing.
$20k minimum for motor and battery. Then think how long it takes to charge each RECharge.
Yes please. That thing is a peach. Just what I dream of.
Nice Toyota, very nice, Toyotas are cool.
Awesome job guys! I had a 1983 long box. It was a great truck. I named it “Sherman” because it rode like a tank! Hit my head of the roof more than once. 😂
@1m in: BRAT!!!!!
I've wanted to convert one of those since before Tesla was a glint in Eberhard's eye.
I like the slightly older, slightly boxier ones though. My first car was an '86 GL, the little 2 door. That thing was an absolute demon in the snow, sooo much fun.
And it could go up Jeep trails almost as well as a Jeep.
On highways... well I didn't go on highways if I could avoid it. I got 23mpg max, averaged 19.
Now I have a Bolt. Also a blast to drive, but I get >100mpge while doing it. Not fun in the snow, not unsafe just that it's only FWD so no donuts or drifting or stuff.
I still want an electric Brat, but it'd be a toy car. Something I could only buy/build after many, many other things got done first.
Love those utes very big n nz n ozzy. But like the swap. Cheers fullas'
Fantastic job! My dream is to do this,(or have you guys do it! ), to an 84 or 85 4runner! I'm in Pismo, pretty close to you guys!
Never imagine saying this, but yes, It is just better. My father repurchased a brand new Toyota Hilux in 1993. That was sold on 2008. Never got damaged! We didn't repair the engine. But this seems to be a level up for that truck.
Nice,
Now this is a conversion I can get behind ❤ I had a 4runner I wanted to convert but that thing is long gone since
Beautiful. Are you guys going to range test it for road, off road, and tow ranges?
What an incredible transformation to a high-voltage EV! What were the most challenging aspects of converting with the Hyper9 motor and Tesla modules? Keep up the fantastic work, and I'm looking forward to more exciting projects from you.
I was just going to comment how are you not referencing Marty McFly in back to the Future 3, and then you did. Subscriber earned
I have a 98 Tacoma 4x4 2.7 that I'd LOVE to convert!
Love all of your music..... Love hearing new music from ya. If you was to ever have a tour in the USA ..... Let's say Montana I would find a way to be there and have a lot of extra money to buy cd's from you and other items you might have for sale.
Pumped to see Toyotas kickin ass! As a Toyota based channel... This excites me probably a little more than your average gearhead! We would like to build an all electric FJ40! Good job guys. Thanks or tainting my water hahaha
Cool
I want to do this conversion with my 1984 celica with a 22re!! Thank you for the inspiration!
Am I the only one that is way more interested in the Subaru Brat in the background???
woow!
very cool, at 4:57 you show all the gauges working could you elaborate on how or what they are talking to on the back end, I assume the OEM speedo still uses the stock transmission output but for example where does the tach get it's signal from and more importantly how does the fuel gauge aka SOC (State of Charge) work, please and thank you
AINT NO WAY!! THIS IS AWESOME. I would rather have a car converted to electric tbh
Dang I had the same truck but in blue but Automatic- went everywhere in Kona Hawaii- sure miss that truck 🤙🏾
Very cool, wonder how much the cost was, build time, and if you had to machine any custom parts for the driveline. looks like the original transmission was retained?
I love it! We would love to work with you guys :)
How much were all the parts to make this happen? We've been considering doing a similar swap with our 4x4 pickup truck. Thanks!
Yeah this is all I want. How do we make this happen?
Ben waiting for Toyota truck E.V.forever!! Please make longer video on it. Thanks
whats the range and charge time?
That's basically my dream truck. Nicely done. Seriously. Wow.
Let me know when your ready to sell that.. cool as hell
It sounds so much more “Back to the Future-y”. Doc would be proud.
That was delightful. Now do an '80s 4WD Tercel. And send it to me.
Great
Thank you !
This is how Modern Evs should be made. No computers, no tech just simple. I bet they would be cheaper and have more range.
Do you need to install an electric vacuum for the brake booster? And did you keep the trans? Or run straight to the transfer box?
It would be interesting to know how much drive-line losses are affecting range. There are a lot of gears and rotating masses that that motor is pushing.
En pocas palabras le quitaron la joya original, ese motor es lo mejor en la tinoamerica!
so much want!
How much did you spend on converting it?
The Hilux was popular here in Australia too. Need to get the word out about this one! nice work. Curious though, I assume it could take a larger battery load is that right? It seems a little light on even if you didn't want super long range.
It could take more batteries but since it is 144 volt (aka 7 batteries), we would have to jump to 14 batteries (double the packs) to work at the same operating voltage. It’s doable but also would add considerable weight and take up usable space. Thanks for the question.
How much does the whole kit cost
How much for the complete conversion kit please
I love it man. I miss my old 92 4x4, the thing was un-killable but like you said completely gutless. The future is now boys.