Brilliant info as I’m going to do my first backpacking trip I’ve watched videos on numerous sites and really want to do the Cumbria way as I’m 62 and the hike looks great for me Just need to plan my route and stop off points I would like to wild camp and possibly camp sites too Your video was really helpful and appreciated Regards Jeff
Always find these interesting, the electrolyte tablets are a great idea, I never think of them, the amount you sweat day after day on the long walks. Great kit list 👍
the only downside to using electrolyte tablets is that it makes cleaning out your bottles more difficult. If you forget to do it you end up with a mouldy mess!
Good informative video. I love watching these type of vids 0:00 as there is always something that I try out based on what you guys carry. Thanks for sharing.
Great to see what you carried I pretty much carry the same for all my 3 season camps buty tents different ( niak ) and I use a cumulus quilt which ways about the same as your sleeping bag.its strange but I always carry hat gloves and buff and waterproof bottoms as well even in summer I just don't feel right if I leave them out
Loved watching your Cumbrian way , my daughter has just completed it on her own and loved every minute , thanks for sharing , very informative and very true guide 🙏👍👍 for sharing 👍👍
Interesting load out Andy, some great kit choices.. always good to ditch all them stuff sacs/dry bags. The way you've got everything folded, I wonder if you did work experience at Benetton🤔🤣 Always good to see what other folk tek, TFS cheers Alistair 👍
Very interesting Andy, your spot on with the electrolyte tablets, I did a tour of Belize in 88 and we always carried dioralyte to replace salt etc as you mentioned, all the best mate.
We all know when those midges are biting how hard it is to concentrate so you did a great job on this video Andy! Could sense you were a little distracted! Thanks for the info.
Really tidy set-up, I really like the look of that Durston tent - a very nice bit of kit...Totally agree about the Cumbria Way - it is an excellent route and worth doing both ways. Also if you go North to South its worth doing the "mountain route" alternative that takes you over The Knott, Skiddaw, Walla Crag, Glaramara, Swirl How, and Coniston Old Man - it's only a tad longer (think about 90 miles) but obviously there is a fair bit more elevation. I did it with our lass over 3 days a few years back. Absolutely worth it - especially as you've already done the "official" route as it gives you a totally different perspective of the Lakes whilst still hitting all the nice towns like Caldbeck, Keswick and Coniston
its the route i think id do fraser if i did it again which i think i will do..the mountain route really appealed to me so its deffo on the cards..the durston is a great tent..the ease of pitching & simplicity for the weight is fantastic..great piece of kit.
Nice informative video Andy 👍🏻. I'm planning my second Pennine way walk for next year with my daughter when she finishes her exams, I'll be taking my Rab aeon ultra 28, and I do what you do, use no stuff bags etc, my neoir X lite is folded and sits against the back panel at the bottom of the pack, with my Vango venom 200 sleeping bag stuffed to the bottom, with my insulating jacket stuffed on top. I use good quality zip loc bags for toiletries, I use the sea to summit soap leaves rather than liquid soap, it saves space and weight. I've also got a durston X mid solid, but the 2p version, great tents for through hikes and wild camping. I use a modified omm map pouch to store navigation equipment, power bank, snacks etc, it's great not having to take the pack off to get to stuff. I can't wait for next year 😁
yeah it really helps with packing not using stuff sacks etc..making the most of space in a pack is what you need to do to utilize all available space..plus you dont have all these stuff sacks laying about then..good luck with the PW next year hope the weather is great.
Very interesting to see not only what you have in the pack but how you loaded it. I really like the look of the "flat pack" layering system and will definitely be trying that out with my kit. I've been using electrolytes for a few months now, apart from the health benefits they make the water taste much better. Thanks for taking the hit on the midges to share this! ATB, Roger
hi roger yeah its something i looked at a while back layering the items in pack rather than rolled up etc..really does create & utilize space..the electrolytes are great too really did make a difference when i did the CW the minerals & salts you lose through sweat & the cramps as a result i never got & felt really fresh & strong to which i think the electrolytes contributed to..
Cheers Andy. Interesting and I always feel I could go lighter not that I make big efforts towards that but it helps. I have just packed for 9 more days on the Cambrian way starting 12th July. I bought a few new bits the biggest being some lighter boots as I felt it’s not the sort of trail I could do in my trainers. Food is the biggest thing for the middle section of the CW as only a couple of small shops so starting out with 5 days food so a total starting pack weight incl electric’s of 12 kg. Only not including poles and water. Anyway great video and tek care👍🍻
12kg aint bad at all tbh dave especially packed for 9 days..i have to say goung to light trail shoes has really made a massive difference..probably like you ive always been the "sturdy boot" believer but the difference with shoes has been astonishing..
This was a cracking video Andy. You’ve built up some great gear. Have to say though, the sheep at 13:00 made it for me, I’d love to know what they were thinking 😂. Cheers.
My load is even more modest than yours (I’m a rather small solo female), but let’s face it, you got everything you needed for a five day hike into a 35L pack. Impressive, particularly as not so long ago that sort of weight and bulk on a multi-day hike would have been unheard of. We’ve come a long way in the last 30 - 4O years.
quite right the technology in gear now days & for future is getting lighter which can only be better for us campers..i usually preach take what you need for an enjoyable camp & it weighs what it weighs but im all for lightening kit up too.
Nice kit there Andy, that pack looks superb, Im really thinking of another Atom tbh, I never gave the last one a chance. Interesting vid mate. Tfs Dave 👍
Some great gear there Andy mate. I use those electrolytes myself especially on my longer runs, great things. I want to try get them I sachet form fir hiking so I'm not carrying the big tube around lol those sheep made me laugh, appearing in the background :) Atb Mark
thanks mark..yeah the electrolytes are great..really can feel the difference especially this time of year where you are losing salts & minerals through sweat.
Hi Andy a great video, watching your Cumbrian way videos again as i plan my trip this june, what was that zip bag you leet the tent steaks in, i use some 9' Easton steaks and looking for a bag for them
I noticed you too are a stormin user.. me and my son also, I have the alloy version my son uses the ti version (in hindsight I should have got ti) Its such a shame Stormin Norman is no longer with us ... his stove are great, I'm not looking forwards to my cone failing so got myself a Honeystove titanium to replace it
Hi Andy, will you be giving a review of the hoka shoe's that you wore? Also I can't believe you resisted not putting the midge net on, once you took it out of your pack 😂
a review of the hoka shoes is not something ive thought of but i suppose its something i could do..looking back i ought to have put the net on as i got eaten alive lol..
starting weight on the CW was 7.8kg which consisted of three days of food..we restocked in keswick on day three..so pack weight never above the 7.8kg start weight.
Hindsight is useful but you need to be prepared for weather regardless of the season so the essentials are essential in my book. Do you find that RAB rain jacket water proof for any length of time? I have tried several different brand jackets but they all leak after an hour or so. Thanks for the video.
quite right hindsight is a great thing..if you could guarantee weather then certain essentials probably would'nt be needed but as we're all to aware forecasts can be hit & miss..any "waterproof" with the exeption of goretex will eventually wet out..you have to remember too the likes of pertex you will sweat in those types which some mistake as wet getting in..
the setting off weight for the CW was 7.8kg which consisted of three days food..we restocked on day tree in keswick so yeah pack never weighed more than the start weight.
loving using it..the design simplicity & ease of pitching for the weight is fantastic..two vestibules too which helps if youve wet gear or just to stow youre pack out the way too is a great.
Would you say your 35 ltr Atompack would be classed as a day pack rather than a backpacking pack Andrew because I think a 30 to 35 ltr pack would be classed as a day pack, you still managed to get a load of gear into it.
@@rayman365 you would still have to carry all your waterproofs especially on a multi day hike, it might be decent weather when you set off but you don't know what the weather would be like in forthcoming days, I would be all for using as small a pack as possible on a multi day hike if you can get all your gear in that you need.
The "35"L Atom is actually over 40L as the 3 outside pockets are not included in the calculation, just the main compartment. For ultralight loads designed to cope with all weathers and temps between 40C and -5C, this size pack is more than adequate - witness all the many experienced thru-hikers on the various 4-6month long trails in the US and Canada who deal with far more extreme conditions than on the Cumbria Way.
a 35 litre pack could quite easily be used as a day pack yes..it then depends on what type of camping gear you have to wether it will fit into a 30/35 litre pack..my 3 season gear fits into the 35 litre pack quite easily..
the side pockets are actually calculated in to the stated litre capacity..for instance the atom 30 the main body volume is 25l..two side pocket volume 2x 2.5 litre equalling in total 30 litre..the front pocket can stretch to hold up to an additional 5l in volume..
One of the most informative load out videos I've watched. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge.
Brilliant info as I’m going to do my first backpacking trip
I’ve watched videos on numerous sites and really want to do the Cumbria way as I’m 62 and the hike looks great for me
Just need to plan my route and stop off points
I would like to wild camp and possibly camp sites too
Your video was really helpful and appreciated
Regards Jeff
Thanks Andy, good stuff. Good to see other pack ideas
Great kit 👍🏻
Thanks Ab, always interested in this kind of stuff. See you next time. Some man for 1 man 👌
Nice one Andy. Wondering when you are going to take on the Cape Wrath trail ;) Atb
dont know about that ray but the west highland way is deffo on the cards..
Thanks Andy for an unbiased, no bullshit loadout video- it will help me massively on the WHW later this year 👍🏻
Some cracking gear mate. Love looking at other peoples stuff.
Always find these interesting, the electrolyte tablets are a great idea, I never think of them, the amount you sweat day after day on the long walks. Great kit list 👍
use them regular now david the electrolytes they really do make a difference.
@@AndrewBeavers I'll give them a go I think it
the only downside to using electrolyte tablets is that it makes cleaning out your bottles more difficult. If you forget to do it you end up with a mouldy mess!
Nice one Andy really interesting especially how you pack your bags
Cheers Graham 👍
Hi Andy, thanks ever so much for that mate. I'm doing the CW in May and I found this video really helpful. Cheers mate, all the best, Dave
Good informative video. I love watching these type of vids 0:00 as there is always something that I try out based on what you guys carry. Thanks for sharing.
Great review mate as always 👍👍👍
Great to see what you carried I pretty much carry the same for all my 3 season camps buty tents different ( niak ) and I use a cumulus quilt which ways about the same as your sleeping bag.its strange but I always carry hat gloves and buff and waterproof bottoms as well even in summer I just don't feel right if I leave them out
Great video mate
I always pack light
Loved watching your Cumbrian way , my daughter has just completed it on her own and loved every minute , thanks for sharing , very informative and very true guide 🙏👍👍
for sharing 👍👍
Nice one Andy, you're gonna have me divorced with kit envy purchase - loving the tent and pack
Interesting load out Andy, some great kit choices.. always good to ditch all them stuff sacs/dry bags.
The way you've got everything folded, I wonder if you did work experience at Benetton🤔🤣
Always good to see what other folk tek, TFS cheers Alistair 👍
Nice loadout video Andrew always nice to see the kit people use atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Very interesting Andy, your spot on with the electrolyte tablets, I did a tour of Belize in 88 and we always carried dioralyte to replace salt etc as you mentioned, all the best mate.
always use them now they do make a massive difference..
We all know when those midges are biting how hard it is to concentrate so you did a great job on this video Andy! Could sense you were a little distracted! Thanks for the info.
haha yeah i was close to quitting it on several occasions i was getting hammered lol..
Really tidy set-up, I really like the look of that Durston tent - a very nice bit of kit...Totally agree about the Cumbria Way - it is an excellent route and worth doing both ways. Also if you go North to South its worth doing the "mountain route" alternative that takes you over The Knott, Skiddaw, Walla Crag, Glaramara, Swirl How, and Coniston Old Man - it's only a tad longer (think about 90 miles) but obviously there is a fair bit more elevation. I did it with our lass over 3 days a few years back. Absolutely worth it - especially as you've already done the "official" route as it gives you a totally different perspective of the Lakes whilst still hitting all the nice towns like Caldbeck, Keswick and Coniston
its the route i think id do fraser if i did it again which i think i will do..the mountain route really appealed to me so its deffo on the cards..the durston is a great tent..the ease of pitching & simplicity for the weight is fantastic..great piece of kit.
Nice informative video Andy 👍🏻. I'm planning my second Pennine way walk for next year with my daughter when she finishes her exams, I'll be taking my Rab aeon ultra 28, and I do what you do, use no stuff bags etc, my neoir X lite is folded and sits against the back panel at the bottom of the pack, with my Vango venom 200 sleeping bag stuffed to the bottom, with my insulating jacket stuffed on top. I use good quality zip loc bags for toiletries, I use the sea to summit soap leaves rather than liquid soap, it saves space and weight. I've also got a durston X mid solid, but the 2p version, great tents for through hikes and wild camping. I use a modified omm map pouch to store navigation equipment, power bank, snacks etc, it's great not having to take the pack off to get to stuff. I can't wait for next year 😁
yeah it really helps with packing not using stuff sacks etc..making the most of space in a pack is what you need to do to utilize all available space..plus you dont have all these stuff sacks laying about then..good luck with the PW next year hope the weather is great.
Very interesting to see not only what you have in the pack but how you loaded it. I really like the look of the "flat pack" layering system and will definitely be trying that out with my kit. I've been using electrolytes for a few months now, apart from the health benefits they make the water taste much better. Thanks for taking the hit on the midges to share this! ATB, Roger
hi roger yeah its something i looked at a while back layering the items in pack rather than rolled up etc..really does create & utilize space..the electrolytes are great too really did make a difference when i did the CW the minerals & salts you lose through sweat & the cramps as a result i never got & felt really fresh & strong to which i think the electrolytes contributed to..
Wow, very organised and thanks for sharing, what was the sponge you pack for wipe down the tent, really need one of those 😊
Need a wide brimmed sunhat for a midge/mosquito net to be effective.
Cheers Andy. Interesting and I always feel I could go lighter not that I make big efforts towards that but it helps. I have just packed for 9 more days on the Cambrian way starting 12th July. I bought a few new bits the biggest being some lighter boots as I felt it’s not the sort of trail I could do in my trainers.
Food is the biggest thing for the middle section of the CW as only a couple of small shops so starting out with 5 days food so a total starting pack weight incl electric’s of 12 kg. Only not including poles and water.
Anyway great video and tek care👍🍻
12kg aint bad at all tbh dave especially packed for 9 days..i have to say goung to light trail shoes has really made a massive difference..probably like you ive always been the "sturdy boot" believer but the difference with shoes has been astonishing..
This was a cracking video Andy. You’ve built up some great gear. Have to say though, the sheep at 13:00 made it for me, I’d love to know what they were thinking 😂. Cheers.
i did notice the sheep i bet they wondered who the hell is he talking to lol..
My load is even more modest than yours (I’m a rather small solo female), but let’s face it, you got everything you needed for a five day hike into a 35L pack. Impressive, particularly as not so long ago that sort of weight and bulk on a multi-day hike would have been unheard of. We’ve come a long way in the last 30 - 4O years.
quite right the technology in gear now days & for future is getting lighter which can only be better for us campers..i usually preach take what you need for an enjoyable camp & it weighs what it weighs but im all for lightening kit up too.
Nice kit there Andy, that pack looks superb, Im really thinking of another Atom tbh, I never gave the last one a chance. Interesting vid mate. Tfs Dave 👍
cheers dave ayy like ive said best packs ive carried mate..
Must of watched this five if not more times and still can't fathom how all that fits in there 😂 and i have a atom+40😅
strategic packing 😉
Some great gear there Andy mate. I use those electrolytes myself especially on my longer runs, great things. I want to try get them I sachet form fir hiking so I'm not carrying the big tube around lol
those sheep made me laugh, appearing in the background :)
Atb Mark
thanks mark..yeah the electrolytes are great..really can feel the difference especially this time of year where you are losing salts & minerals through sweat.
Hi Andy a great video, watching your Cumbrian way videos again as i plan my trip this june, what was that zip bag you leet the tent steaks in, i use some 9' Easton steaks and looking for a bag for them
its from treadlite gear he does all kinds of stuff like that.
I noticed you too are a stormin user.. me and my son also, I have the alloy version my son uses the ti version (in hindsight I should have got ti) Its such a shame Stormin Norman is no longer with us ... his stove are great, I'm not looking forwards to my cone failing so got myself a Honeystove titanium to replace it
yeah real shame norman is no longer with us the cones will become much sought after..
Hi Andy, will you be giving a review of the hoka shoe's that you wore? Also I can't believe you resisted not putting the midge net on, once you took it out of your pack 😂
a review of the hoka shoes is not something ive thought of but i suppose its something i could do..looking back i ought to have put the net on as i got eaten alive lol..
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Interesting to see your kit but could I ask what was the approximate weight on your back?
starting weight on the CW was 7.8kg which consisted of three days of food..we restocked in keswick on day three..so pack weight never above the 7.8kg start weight.
Andrew what shorts are you wearing in the vid? Like the look of them. In search of some good quality shorts for hiking. Enjoying the content, thanks
theyre the Rab torque shorts..theyre ok but id like them to be elasticated waist like the trousers are..these use a belt for some reason..
Hindsight is useful but you need to be prepared for weather regardless of the season so the essentials are essential in my book. Do you find that RAB rain jacket water proof for any length of time? I have tried several different brand jackets but they all leak after an hour or so. Thanks for the video.
quite right hindsight is a great thing..if you could guarantee weather then certain essentials probably would'nt be needed but as we're all to aware forecasts can be hit & miss..any "waterproof" with the exeption of goretex will eventually wet out..you have to remember too the likes of pertex you will sweat in those types which some mistake as wet getting in..
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Hi Andy, was wondering what subscription plan you went for with zoleo and at what cost mate? 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
hi jack..i was fortunate to get a lifetime subscription to the top plan free of charge from zoleo pal..
Very interesting I love the colour of that tent ⛺️ 💕 Do u know the highest point here on the Isle of Wight is 241m😂🤦♀️
i didnt know that interesting fact..
@@AndrewBeavers not good for climbing LOL
Andy, what size is your nylofume liner for that pack please?
its one size that comes with the atompack..you can buy them seperate too..
Morning Andy any chance you recorded the overall weight ? Cheers
the setting off weight for the CW was 7.8kg which consisted of three days food..we restocked on day tree in keswick so yeah pack never weighed more than the start weight.
Nice pack content, cheers Andrew. What do you think of the xmid?
loving using it..the design simplicity & ease of pitching for the weight is fantastic..two vestibules too which helps if youve wet gear or just to stow youre pack out the way too is a great.
What poles are they mate?
leki sherpa..
Could someone please send me the translated version of the script lol
dont quite know what to say to that 😆
What was your pack weight, Andy?
setting off pack weight was at 7.8kg..that consisted of three days food..we restocked on day 3 in keswick..
Would you say your 35 ltr Atompack would be classed as a day pack rather than a backpacking pack Andrew because I think a 30 to 35 ltr pack would be classed as a day pack, you still managed to get a load of gear into it.
better to call it a 3 season pack ..i use a 38 ,can get everything in , why take anything bigger in decent weather
@@rayman365 you would still have to carry all your waterproofs especially on a multi day hike, it might be decent weather when you set off but you don't know what the weather would be like in forthcoming days, I would be all for using as small a pack as possible on a multi day hike if you can get all your gear in that you need.
The "35"L Atom is actually over 40L as the 3 outside pockets are not included in the calculation, just the main compartment.
For ultralight loads designed to cope with all weathers and temps between 40C and -5C, this size pack is more than adequate - witness all the many experienced thru-hikers on the various 4-6month long trails in the US and Canada who deal with far more extreme conditions than on the Cumbria Way.
a 35 litre pack could quite easily be used as a day pack yes..it then depends on what type of camping gear you have to wether it will fit into a 30/35 litre pack..my 3 season gear fits into the 35 litre pack quite easily..
the side pockets are actually calculated in to the stated litre capacity..for instance the atom 30 the main body volume is 25l..two side pocket volume 2x 2.5 litre equalling in total 30 litre..the front pocket can stretch to hold up to an additional 5l in volume..
"a little bit of background"
amazing