Ringing Eneru's Bell?!? | One Piece Ep 191+192 Reaction & Review | Skypiea Arc
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6:16 when Wyper finds out that Luffy has a relation to Noland's descendents and understands his motivation, and realizes that they're allies.. is one of the most beautiful scenes in One Piece to this day. Then you see the snake realizing too, and it starts crying... Dayum.. Gives me chills every time. The soundtrack too is absolutely perfect for the scene.
Luffy ringing the bell connecting the past and the present is truly a beautiful scene.
You're missing the point, kind of. The resolution is not defeating Enel, it is to ring in the end of an age of deceit and oppression, to usher in a new age. The pay off is to see a long dark history be illuminated, and to let the light shone down on everyone who was in darkness. Those being the shandians and skypeans, as well as closing the book on the history of Calgara and Noland.
Luffy is not defeating a villain, he is closing a chapter in the land's history. That is why the flashbacks are there, the resolution goes beyond just defeating Enel, it is the death and rebirth of history. Enel held them underfoot, yes, but the evils festering in the land were not made by him, nor would simply his defeat heal it. The bell tolled as a signal of the defeat of the past and the present.
It's still 2 full minutes of flashback. Like something with some rhythm would have worked for me, but flashing away for a tenth the length of an episode is CRAZY to me
might have not gone over his head if there wasnt all the other padding drowning out important stuff so youre just kinda bored and mentally checked out. combined with how much more boring it is when you have to invest so much energy into reading because anime fanboys insist on people watching subbed or dont bother watching it at all.
@@SoTOreo Speaking for yourself, of course
@@SoTOreo The message of the arc IS the important stuff, that's sort of One Piece's big thing. If it's just fightfightfight then next fightfightfight you want, then One Piece is not the anime for you. Beating the big bad in context hits different than just beating up a bully who was mean and in the way for some reason.
Strokes for different folks, if the way they handled the finale in skypia bothered you, then expect to be bothered a lot more in the future watching this show.
@@NerdyNightly I don't share your sentiment at all. Maybe you're expecting a different anime experience than what One Piece is going for. Especially later arcs where fillers really pad out the tempo, if you're not on board with the emotional beats then it is really going to be a slog. (looking at you, dressrosa)
In which case, the manga is the prefered medium.
You kinda missed the whole point of the arc. Defeating Enel was part of it sure, but the true climax of the Skypiea saga (jaya and Skypiea) was the ringing of the bell. It was the fulfillment of the promise between the two legendary figures of both Noland and Calgara through their descendants. With Luffy acting as a bridge between the two. And it also marked the end or rather a turning point in the hostile relations between the Skypieans and the Shandians.
Enel is also pretty interesting as an arc antagonist. The only reason anyone could bring him down was because Luffy's fruit was the natural counter to his own. A specific elemental weakness like Crocodile had to water in Alabasta. Oda has even stated that if Enel had a bounty it would be over 500 million Beri.
One thing to note is that One Piece is a story that is designed to be read over and over again. So Oda often saves certain reveals or information till the end of an arc. Or even way further down the line.
i think your comment of whether or not liking the final flashbacks during the gold rifle depending on if youre watching week to week or not might be very true, as i absolutely LOVED it, and i took a 10 year break from the anime half way through skypeia, so it was a moment a decade in the making for me
Nerdy: "not as fast as some of you, watching all of One Piece in a year is INSANE."
Me: no Nerdy, it's a vibe. when you have the free time on your hands and you can binge large chunks at a time, it is totally a vibe. you can watch 3 whole eps within an hour and some mins, especially when skipping recap, opening and ending, then it's 3 in an hour flat.
Faster than that if you go 1.25 speed
In the beginning of the arc, it's explained the composition of the clouds.
The Shandorans believe ringing the bell helps their ancestors find their way back home.
Kalgara promised Noland they'd ring the bell every day so he could find them again.
Do you think, now that Luffy has rung the bell. Noland and Kalgara have been reunited in the afterlife?
Because I do..
A lot of your complaints are choices the anime made and are not reflections of the manga and the story itself. They will hit a golden zone of anime direction that I know your going to love.
hopefully he sees that soon.
I _liked_ Skypeia. I never understood why people skipped it. Can't really get into the mindset of someone who would.
At this end of the whole thing (manga and anime) I like it even more.
Gedatsu was… interesting. I'd read somewhere he was based on some story or other but that was years ago and I can't find it now.
You do you. For some reason we keep coming back. I don't know what's up with that, but we do. 😏
C common theme in One piece is you gotta destroy before rebuilding. It's something like "before the dawn everything is dark" theme
Nami's growth here is really that she has always avoided life-threatening situations. We saw how terrified she was on the Maxim ark and Luffy had to scold her to stop worrying. Now she is trying to really trust and support Luffy in this very disastrous situation that puts her life more in danger.
Try to keep an eye on Nami and how her relationship with Luffy develops in every arc. I personally find it very interesting.
Yes, I am one of those people, who find the final blow more emotional by seeing everybody's faces. =)
Request for getting you to enjoy an arc even more:
Please don't look up how many episodes an arc has. I think, if you continue like this, it will dampen your enjoyment with longer arcs.
Toei gets better at doing the flashback during highlights, but it's always there. What with the music, and the history, and the emotions behind it, it makes scenes far more powerful imo. Unless you got no emotional attachement, I think that's one of the more common reasons people enjoy it.
20:00 that's why the manga is superior in most cases
the anime version of skypeia is widely panned by most people. while the manga version has some of the biggest supporters in one piece.
the pacing is a big deal as you've noticed. it literally IS padding as the episode is released once a week, apadting less and less total chapters per episode. the anime has many advantages unique to its medium, but I ultimately prefer the manga due to its more natural pacing. A page or two pages of character cuts for the final hit does not feel that bad when it's reminding you of something you might have read a while ago.
18:54 oh boy , if he doesn’t like the “ whole world reaction “ part then I don’t know what else to say
yeah Toei really love padding for no reason. The whole reason why I'm hyped at the one piece remake.
I mean, their reason is a weekly releases schedule on a TV budget...
@@maxpower2480that’s the point, it shouldn’t be weekly. Or if it is weekly it should take breaks often or add more filler arcs to not catch up to canon, rather than slowing down the pacing of canon arcs
@@Lord_Cynrik I agree and although I'm very cautious with hype, I am very much looking forward to the remake. (Which still weirds me out... Is this the first time ever, a remake got started during the original shows runtime?) They still don't love padding "for no reason".
@@Lord_Cynrik The trade-off is that it might not have become as popular as it is today if it was only released monthly. Since there is no alternate history, we can't call one better than the other. Both have pros and cons.
@@Yutani_Crayvenpretty sure we can call one better than the other. If you remove all the filler and unnecessarily extended scenes, leaving only manga events with a little extra here and there for clarification/understanding, the anime would be objectively much better.
And about 400-500 episodes shorter. At this rate we’ll have more episodes than chapters. That’s insane.
always keep being you nerdy, i wouldnt wanna watch someone being dishonest about their opinions ever
Yeah like.. I disagree with his takes heavily but.. I'm not one to get offended. He's a great entertainer and at the end of the day I don't have to agree with him to enjoy watching him. He's an excellent reactor and I honestly like his brutal honesty.
@@rafayetrasti6191 These two comments need to be at the top.
Regarding Wyper's usage of the reject dial. A normal person could only use it once. Wyper is the direct descendant of the Great Warrior Calgara, so naturally he's a lot tougher, hence he can handle 2-3 rejects without killing himself.
I watched the entirety of One Piece in 2 months (granted there were less than 400 episodes back then.)
One distinction Oda made regarding his world in the original "Romance Dawn" pilot that you may find interesting is the two kinds of pirates: "Morganeers" and "Peace Main" pirates.
While Morganeers are traditional pirates who pillage and plunder, Luffy and others like him are of the Peace Main variety; they make their living purely off of taking down Morganeers and benefiting from the goodwill bestowed upon them by those they save in the process. Just a cool little detail that I think really helps flesh out the nature of the One Piece world a bit.
Really enjoy your reactions!
I really hope he see your comment.
the next opening start at 207 and you shouldn't watch it until 237
Hahahaha!!! I love that we get to see your live reaction to finding out how much the back story is loved and you are freaking out. xD
Again: Unreliable narrator. Some doofus in a bar says "The reject will kill you if you use it more than once", some other doofus that has a powerlevel of 2 tries it twice and dies. Wyper with a powerlevel of like 500000 comes along, doesn't kill him after multiple tries, obviously.
This!!!!!!
This is my favorite show but yeah the padding is rough at spots
It's for sure good to have them back down at the Blue Sea again!
keep being you my guy, its fine
"Be yourself, just less so" felt way too real. Got that advice a few times.
Shit advice tbh. Dont be for other people, other people that like you for you will come.
Unless you're a huge asshole. Reflection is important!
Yuuuuuup 😬 Same
I think the reason you get the momentum killing "flash to everyone's reactions and some relevant past moments" in the anime is that they insist on showing all of the panels Oda drew even though animating it takes much longer than the several seconds you would spend looking at those panels if you were reading it.
Also I would guess that every instance of that happening in the manga leads to a page turn to a full spread of the moment of impact, which isn't an effect the anime can really replicate.
As disappointing as it is to hear that you don't like aspects that we enjoy, I respect the fact that you're always super honest. I'm confident that the next saga will blow you away.
I'm sure you've been told a thousand times, but the next batch of "filler" is worth watching and reacting to. I've seen video essays on "How to do Anime filler right", using this as a prime example. It's hard to suggest stuff to watch or skip without spoiling or building up expectations too high, but this is an exception I'm certain tons of viewers want to see.
If you know episode ranges for the filler in advance, I suggest asking a trusted friend to tell you whether it's something to react to or not. It's truly the best way, as polls can be unreliable when fans are so passionate. I'd still recommend watching filler even if you don't post videos, as there are the occasional bits of interesting lore sprinkled at random (like the Calm Belt stuff from the Millenium Dragon arc).
As an alternative to posting reaction videos for "bad" filler, maybe you could do a summary/recap of what you thought coming out of the filler. First half of a video if it's juicy, or a couple minute recap if it was truly forgettable. I feel like you did a short recap for one of them and I liked it, definitely feels better than completely skipping past and not acknowledging it.
I'm proud of you for letting the reject go ... almost. 😂
Straw Hat fights are so hard on the environment, lol.
There's a short filler arc after Skypia; its a really fun one that's beloved by the community, so you should watch it
i wouldn't stop upload ^^ and don't worry, you will get your emotions ;P
Hahahahah don’t worry about the comments . I enjoy and appreciate your honesty. I do like the emotional part of Norland flashback, but each one enjoys what he enjoys , and that’s fine.
We cannot actually write off the cloud territory. Since we do not know how it first gathered it still could be a construction thing that we have no reason to know of yet.
Enel came from a different sky island so really we have no idea how many exist in the first place.
Major set back sure; nevermore not sure.
I'm glad you're being you and just saying how you feel. instead of just faking it like alot of reaction channels
bro what do you mean to fake reaction
Love your One Piece reactions. Hate and all. Never stop being you.
In regards to your story progress; In the manga, after Skypiea, there is a little palette cleanser arc leading into one of the great sagas of One Piece.
In the anime they made a filler(anime-only) arc after Skypiea, that is surprisingly good. Then they go to the palette cleanser arc but the anime doubles the length of it with padding and added anime-only plot. All-in-all the anime then more than triples that "palette-cleanser" moment and it really destroys the story pacing. Get through it however you can, skipping is an option. You will be rewarded GREATLY at the other end.
Love the skypia arc❤
Hard to argue with some of the pacing gripes, part of the reason why i prefer the manga now. Got into your content with the WoT readthrough might be cool to add the OP manga to the list?
Everyone has their favorites and least favorites, your mind might change when you do a rewatch. As long as you enjoy your time thats what really matters.
At this point what do you think the one piece is ?
Nerdy 😂 I disagreed with like everything you've said lately, but I also really like ~you~ so no worries, some of us are still watching 😂😂
I really appreciate your honest reaction of liking and disliking certain things.
Usually the things you dislike are incredibly valid and insightful criticisms that I may not have considered.
The perspective you approach your analysis and critique is unique and that's why I watch it.
For example explaining your problems with the Nolan flashback boiled down to 3 main issues of Timing, Pacing, and The way they told the story.
All of those are valid criticisms especially about the exposition and explanation as opposed to action.
And if that takes away from your enjoyment just like the reject dial thing, that is perfectly valid. I personally might not notice or care about some of the things, but some of the stuff does make me reevaluate my interpretation.
Also the fact that you are so focused on the character growth works great.
I think that's something I noticed subconsciously but your analysis brings it to the forefront of my mind and makes me appreciate it more.
When you analyze the animation and presentation and how the animators set things up, it is also really interesting.
I guess I like that you analyze the HOW part of what makes the story work and not work instead of just saying you like or dislike stuff.
Keep it up!
Can't wait to see your reaction to Water 7 and Enies Lobby! Get your tissue boxes ready!
Did he say Skipea on purpose? 😂😂
Toei likes to think they know better than the author sometimes. They usually don't.
With some of the later arcs it's padded because it was getting too close to the manga, but I don't think that was the issue with this point.
We have to remember that the pacing and some decisions of the Anime are there because it's weekly as also the manga. That's the reason that now as manga is coming to its end they are thinking about a remake
Toei make a lot of weird decisions like those you complain about, they show flashbacks out of sequence and ruin surprises, or they just pad and reuse footage to a terrible degree.
this is why skipping skypiea is sort of a meme in the community, just because this arc is so weirdly paced. people recommend watching the One Pace edit of the series or read the manga. They've already announced a remake of the series with an entirely new studio, so maybe complaints like yours will be addressed.
Alright, I am back and I have to say I am glad I decided to give this another chance after taking your advice and skipping the last one. I don't know, for some reason the reaction to the flashback felt so off and different from what you usually do, it really pissed me off. But with this one it was way better again, the critique was better articulated and understandable. I think what sometimes makes the experience of watching you less enjoyable is when you get too stuck on something small you don't like and then it feels like you're too busy with that one thing you kinda not pay attention to what else is happening, which in return makes it seem like you don't really care about the show anymore and are just in for mindless ranting, when in the past I always had the impression you were more genuine/authentic and not just ranting to piss people off. That really went overboard during the flashback (at least the part I watched), but with this video I thought it was improving again. I'll stay for a bit, don't expect you to like Long Ring Long Island (even though I myself just reread it and found it hilarious, even though it didn't add much to the story). I am curious how you'll like W7, it's my favourite, so pay attention, please. 🙃
"At least when you cut to the flashbacks have it be a little bit - have a little more motion in it."
In one line, Nerdy describes what Megumi Ishitani will eventually be so well-known for doing during Roof Piece.
Guess we need her to do the Noland and Gold Rifle cuts, huh.
#nami don't worry in the next episodes your Dreams come true . They are Pirates😂
The manga is fairly quickly paced and the anime bogs it down with extended onlooker reaction shots and flashbacks. It only gets worse from here as some episodes adapt less than one chapter per episode in the future. I feel you'd be hesitant to do it but One Pace significantly fixes this issue until the Netflix remake hopefully gives us a better paced adaptation.
You be you dude. For some reason people watch reactors and expect them all to have the same opinions as they do. I think it's good that you don't care for some things as much as others do. Makes your reactions unique.
Yeah, not my favorite arc, but I do like it on a rewatch. One Piece is awesome, but that doesn't mean everything is great or it's always perfectly edited / presented. People need to chill out.
Yeah, Toei overkills on the recaps and flashbacks. It destroys pacing and ruins emotional moments, this is a relatively common take. The second half of the show turns this problem up to 11, it gets really bad unfortunately.
cant wait for the next arc for people to be made about you pointing out flaws in the show lol. but yea its ironic a show about pirates manages to take the wind out of our sails after epic moments then its like ok.... to be continued into flash backs or just flash backs within the episode or many other ways to just pad out the episodes
i think that he is gonna like the next Saga a whole lot.
I’ll keep watching, because even though I think you’re a bit negative and tough…I’m watching another reviewer at the same time who is maybe a little too nice and lenient😂 Between the two of you I think I’m getting a pretty fair review
keep in mind that one piece the story and one piece the show are made by different people. the author doesnt do all those shitty flashbacks in the middle of the chapter. thats just the animation studio wasting time and padding the episode. In my opinion they should have gotten the right to the story taken away like 2 decades ago. but they somehow are still allowed to ruin the story to this day. One Pace is the way.
Yeah, even on a weekly schedule these flashbacks were atrocious. At least to me. In addition to killing the momentum, they also made sure, that sometimes the one singular episode you got in a week had very little new plot in it. And it absolutely could be done so much better, like flashing to the people after the bell is rung, with it's sound underlining the gravity this symbolic act has. Always important to remember that this might be, in addition to personal preference, a cultural thing, but it feels more like a grinding for a weekly release schedule-thing...
love the genuine reaction. let the haters hate.
The Norland backstory is... come on. Nobody really cares that much. But if you happen to hate W7 or Sabaody later, well, that might be a bit of a problem. :D
I care that much, tbh. The Noland backstory is one of the most emotionally draining to me because it doesn't have a happy end for anyone in it. Nami's backstory is awful and sad, but at least she's happy now. She, her sister, and the whole village are free now. Same for everyone else's backstory.
Meanwhile, Noland and Calgara will never find out what happened to the other. They both died with regrets and both left their descendants with the sort of legacy that overshadowed their whole lives. Luffy ringing the bell for Noland's descendant and with Wyper's blessing is thematically beautiful, but it doesn't negate the tragedy of Noland's and Calgara's story.
(I'm not particularly bothered by Nerdy's dislike of the backstory, though. Mostly I'm just surprised because I really didn't see it coming.)
@@tin.3308 In retrospect, I quite like this backstory. This is one of the few tragedies we see in One Piece. However, I think that in order to fully appreciate it, one needs to know where it leads, including the bell scene.
@@sera7174 That's a good point. The backstory is something I definitely appreciate more anytime I reread it.
3:45 - that for me is many people's beef with Skypeia, it's Frieza Saga long, no better way to put it.
#NicoGang Nico gang Nico gang
The padding only gets worse, which is definitely a problem with the medium as compared to a problem with the show. These releases are weekly shows based on weekly mangas. A lot of the flashes to the other people and past are single panels that could maybe fit in a single page. That, in addition to how long some of the arc becomes, it's cheaper to make still panel shots to fill up the time on what would otherwise be a maybe 5 minute animation for the week. Plus, they will have to wait for the plot of the manga to develop before more episodes could be made, hence the filler and drag.
There are many iconic moments that get tons of rewatch and views, but also many many episodes people skip over when watching or rewatching.
Personally, I think the take for mont blanc is very valid. I also felt unattached to the backstory of mont blanc when I first read it in the 2000s, but reading back and tying in native American history as well as just lots of foreshadowing and imagery done in this arc made it a lot more entertaining and intriguing.
If you think the survival rate is ridiculous, wait til you see the power scaling.
love how he says the survival rate is ridiculous, when a large chunk of the Skypean race died in that Raigo.
Skypia's issues get addressed as the story progresses. At the time it was released, people hated the pacing and the placement of the backstory was criticized back in the day. The Montblanc flashback has a different payoff later on in the story, which is why so many people who are caught up will tell you that it's great.
I love the arc for what it is, but it's nowhere close to being my favorite. At the time, I enjoyed at least one arc that people really hate more than this.
Is he going to skip the next filler arc? I know its a fan favorite, so Nerdy will hate it?
Are u talking abt G8 arc?
@@STRAWHAT-oc4ko yes
Since he hates whimsy and fun, he's definitely gonna complain or skip things entirely
@gryffonmanic this is such an L take. He rarely hates on whimsical or fun things. Most of his complaints are about loss of stakes and tension breaking writing. One of his favorite fights is choppers, the most whimsical of the arc. I can understand if you hate his takes, but at least hate those and not something you just made up.
@@stephenhenson5777 That's just the vibe he gives me from the way he reacts to other shows.
I'm gonna say something really unpopular and suggest you skip the filler arc that's coming up.
It's probably the best filler arc! And I think you'd enjoy it in general but given what you do and don't vibe with and given how Toei handled the next canon arc, I think you'd enjoy things more if you went straight to the canon arc (and skipping the filler there too).
If you do watch the filler arc, maybe consider watching movie 6 as a palate cleanser right after? Something to put a break between the filler and canon arc.
I mean the flashbacks at the end would be 10000x better if they were after the bell ring
It would just be a placement change and would better the end result, but hey fillers
no wonder :D you're one of those people who are so caught up in their own brain that you can't pay attention to things when they are being not exactly how you want them to be :D I mean only a child or childish mind would laugh uncontrollably over ave maria while an epic speech was given :D that was absolutely embarrassing for you and now the flashback is a chapter to late and you cant even pay attention to what was said. xD maybe just quit the show and save yourself the trouble
I'm with a few others who think you should skip the g8 filler. Just get to the story, the main story is way more interesting coming up
One Piece is the type of show you have to turn off part of your brain for.
not entirely no
Turn off ur brain? Then that's why when people like u complain and cry , it's all nonsense and stupid whining and yall call it as 'criticism'
yeah the pacing is always bad in the show, thank toei for that, a lot of weird reaction cuts that go on for way too long, and random pacing problems. Buckle in, it gets worse at times. I hope it gets remade to because it really throws people away from the show at times. The animators are very talented but the anime would likely be cut in half without all the pacing BS.
This guy thinks bashing 1000 episodes of One Piece is a good idea. Just quit, already. What a waste of your time. Do you really think people want to see you complain about hundreds of episodes?
Please skip the filler arc and the Long Island arc. Both those arcs are not arcs that Nerdy is going to enjoy watching very much i can almost GUARANTEE it. Please people, tell him to skip to Water 7..
He shouldn’t, only the fillers of long ring island
@@Friendly_Cap123 for a regular reactor sure.. but you really think if he doesn't enjoy the peak moments of Alabasta and Skypiea, and doesn't enjoy anything that doesn't have plot relevance, that he's going to enjoy G8 and Long Ring Island arcs ? Because I SERIOUSLY strongly think he won't.. Mark my words.
Tell him to skip water 7 since he'll probably hate it lmao too much needing to wait 5 minutes before you get an answer for him lol.
sure but then he can watch one piece on himself there's no point in uploading reactions if you start skip cannon arcs because he's maybe don't like it😊
@@sergejg9627 he should
Why do so many youtube channels insist on watching sub? I get it if you know the language without needing subtitles but the English dub really has made tremendous progress
This is the main reason I don't bother subbing sorry brother lol
i think you dont get the story because you dont know japanese.
I suggest stopping and watching harry potter instead.
Skypiea is bad, cope
@@protonracer123bark ur nonsense elsewhere
@@STRAWHAT-oc4ko cope fanboy
Stop watching One Piece
I was not a fan of skypiea myself, what I will say is pull through till water 7 (the arc right after the mini arc you’re about to watch) if you feel like the shows not doing it for you then I feel like that’s a good arc to gauge if you want to go forward with the series or not