Who Were the Sea Peoples?
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- Uncover the mystery of the Sea Peoples in this riveting exploration of their role in the Bronze Age Collapse. From coastal raids to decisive battles, delve into the chaos of 1200 BCE!
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On Voltaire's deathbed, a priest urged him to reject the Devil. Voltaire replied, “This is no time to be making new enemies”.
Did he mean actual devil or was it like "dude doesn't believe in my faitytale he must be a satanist"
Oscar Wilde's (alleged) last words: Either the curtains go or I do.
Simons tribes sole loot haul was a burst football, two lollipops and a bag of Christmas nuts. 😅
Shame. Too many people don't believe until it's too late. You have a lifetime to make the right choice.
@@SilverDreamweaver shut up cultist
I say we start a movement to change the name from the "Land&Sea Peoples" to the "Surf&Turf Cultures".
Crab people crab people
tastes like crab, talk like people
crab people crab people
@@Shiro_AmadaYou win! 🤣
The Nephilim, or Air Occupants, aren’t gonna dig this…
Well, their movements were what led to...
Works for me!
Oh my all time favorite mystery, I remember my world history professor glossing over them being like "and the sea people destroyed these empires, destroyed the populations and then disappeared never to be seen or heard from again...now moving on." And I was like "wait, what??"
Lucky you, because I had to learn about them out of the school. Actually, after college! And on my own.
Yeah, my teacher was like, we don't really know anything about them...
@igorlokotar9467 well they're obviously the descendants of the Nephilim that escaped the flood in the Bible and waged a campaign of violence against the human race causing the bronze age collapse and now rule the new world from the shadows. Thats why every world power has had the greatest navel power because they're in actuality puppets of The Sea Peoples!!! Jk lol my friends and I made up a fake conspiracy theory around them awhile back for fun
@MCsCreations yeah and we barely touched on it, its pretty interesting. I like Simons thought that they were bands of people retaliating against the problems of the day. It explains why they didnt conquer and set up shop
They are known as Sea People and known people from the north....
C'mon Simon... It's OBVIOUSLY the vikings
As a linguist, your observation about Duolingo mostly making people good at Duolingo rather than language is indeed one of the biggest criticisms of their program.
I like the summertime in summer
Good times
Also a linguist and I've tried Duolingo and memrise
The pace is so slow that you could spend a year just to reach a month of classroom instruction
As linguists surely you must understand that the online learning pace is on par with the level of education in the states…
@@garafanvou6586 There are myriad ways of classroom instruction and arguably there is no "average" language learner. K-12 language classes, for example, do not have the same objectives as a university course, and so the generalization of what American language classrooms are like does not hold. It is entirely possible for a classroom to eclipse Duolingo, especially since there are whole categories of skill that the app barely touches on.
The ultimate test is a face to face conversation to hone in on the language.
But it’s better to watch TV programs/movies and learn the dialect of your learning language as you memorize the words and sentence structures offered.
One of my history professors showed the class a relief of a battle with the Sea Peoples and told us, "we don't know who they were or where they came from or where they went, but thanks to the Egyptians we know what hats they wore."
🤣🤣🤣
The important things, clearly.
You can learn a lot about a man by what he chooses to put on his head.
Hats are very important, you can tell who is who, even in this day and age.
What you keep under your hat is even more important
"They were in a garden and he ate a rib or something" has gotta be one of my favorite retellings of the Garden of Eden ever!!!
I ate there once, their Apple of Knowledge BBQ sauce was to die for.
@@dustrose8101👏👏👏
An agregate story of ancient primates venturing out of their forested homes in northern Africa onto the barren deserts of the North.
No a snake told the rib to eat an apple.
@@OsirisLordAnd that’s how BBQ was invented, kids.
Rameses III was totally unrelated to Ramses II (XX Dynasty vs. XIX Dynasty) and was only the second of his line (in your words, a 1st-gen nepo baby). Rameses II was the grandchild of Rameses I, third of his Dynasty and, most likely given that closeness to the start, his parents were not siblings; he reigned for 66 years (quite long) and is remembered as the greatest pharaoh due to the length of his reign, the extent of his conquests and a knack for PR (he never lost a battle because he said so, for example; he was indeed a nepo baby, but a truly skilled one).
Rameses III also took power during a very messy time period after Merneptah's death where he and three of his siblings played musical chair with the Pharaoh's throne.
His writers also claim palestine was a thing back then, intentionally ignoring Israel and tribes of Israel were there!
11:28
@@pantherdddjvdgxPalestine was first mentioned in 1200 BC give or take and was the name for that region at that time
@@pantherdddjvdgx The writer uses both "Canaan" and "Palestine", both ancient names of regions that included mostly (but not exactly) the same lands. Canaan was the land of the Canaanites, while Palestine (or Peleset in Egyptian) was the land of the Philistines, which the video indicates were mostly the same region.
It does fit, since Canaan is the ancient name and was used by the writer mostly for the time before the fall, while Palestine (or equivalent) was a name given during the XX Dynasty, of which Rameses III was its second pharaoh, and was given after the settling by the Philistines, circa 1150 BCE, i.e. the tail end of the Bronze Age Collapse (which fits with the context it was used in).
His writers don’t offer the best info to begin with and he doesn’t seem to retain any that he himself has presented in the past.
We need a scoreboard at the end of every one of Simon's videos displaying how long he spent on tangents in the video.
Everything changed the day the Sea People attacked! 🌊
"when we needed our tin reserves for bronze production the most, they were emptied"
Fucking hilarious, 12/10 joke
The Fire Nation was just getting even.
"And just when we needed the bald bearded British man the most, he disappeared and started 50 CZcams channels.""
@@Guy-cb1oh underrated reply
04:26 Tangent side rant on Alexander's empire - As far as land area compared to the rest of the world sure, but when the world's population is only 6-7 million (compared to eight billion currently) there was a hell of a lot empty land and he was taking over the most prosperous occupied parts.
Danes and Norwegians raided France by sea in waves, for years. Fighting them was really expensive, even when the King of France won. Eventually he realized it was cheaper and better to buy them off with a little money and a lot of newly emptied land on the coast. In exchange they had to swear loyalty, pay taxes and defend the coastline from their Kinsmen. As you know they became the Normans and conquered England. It would make sense that both Ramsey's the 2nd and 3rd had the same problem, with numerous groups from the Northern Mediterranean. They also bought those groups off in the same way - land and money for , taxes, loyalty, and military service.
Archaelogy of Northern Europe from 11th century BC, doesn't support such ability from NE tribes.
@Yiannis2112 Yeah, but they're saying it could be a similar circumstance with people from Northern Mediterranean, not Northern Europe.
@@Reverendshot777 Yes, they are saying it and we all know it as a theory ...and its much more plausible. But, as you also can
see, I'm answering to the guy above and his far fetched theory of North European tribes being the sea people.
@@Yiannis2112 You're missing that OP said it could be the same problem, but with groups from the Northern Mediterranean, they're not claiming its potentially Northern Europeans.
@@Reverendshot777 Are you stupid?
There are actually Roman phonetic pronunciation instructions that survive, Classical Latin is a thing
Yeah. Italian, Spanish, French and a bit of English via the Normans.
A lot of them are late and heavily influenced by germanic influences however. That's why even classical Latin is considered inaccurate.
3:25 - Chapter 1 - The bronze age collapse
7:55 - Chapter 2 - The mysterious people from the sea
20:50 - Chapter 3 - Where did they come from & where did they go ?
22:05 - Chapter 4 - The sea people & homer
30:10 - Chapter 5 - Were the philistine originally sea peoples ?
34:15 - Chapter 6 - The big question ; why ?
36:35 - Conclusion
This is one of those fascinating historical mysteries where theories have gone from the people of Atlantis, to ancestors of the Vikings, to random migratory groups of people around the Mediterranean. Love the topic and enjoyed the video.
Time travelling vikings
I'm too biased to vikings
I want to see Norsemen fighting Egyptians
"They were in a garden and then he ate a rib, or something." had me laughing so hard that I accidentally subscribed. Priceless!
Simon really is one of the most entertaining morons that I’m aware of.
Who's doing the visuals for this one? The globe map of Alexander the Great's conquests "give or take" just cracked me up!
Brilliant!😂🎉
I've listened to and read stuff about this subject so many damn times, but somehow it never gets old.
Come for the unknown stay for the Simon tangent 37 seconds in
19:55 Quite possibly the earliest recorded example of that email you thought you sent still being in drafts.
I want to help Fact Boi pronounce greek so badly 😄
Simon's understatement of the day: "I live in a civilization." You have a gift, sir 😄
We live.. in a society.
Was actually just watching “fall of civilizations” video on the collapse of the Bronze Age which is the event we’re talking about. Great video and well worth a watch if this sort of thing interests you.
Note it is episode 2, but make sure you get the newer version which has video to go along with the audio
Assuming you grew up in the UK, if you studied Ancient Greek history in University or a good Public School, you would have learned about Thucydides in your studies. You were probably in your teens or early 20's. His name sounds different than it reads. You had me dying hear you try to say his name. This is awesome by the way!!!
Love it! As much as I love the cryptid and conspiracy episodes having one grounded in history is great! (I do wonder though if there's an aliens explanation too because there always seems to be lol)
"Do we even know what ancient Egyptian sounded like?" Yes! We have the Rosetta Stone.
I’m not sure who’s editing this but that “big brain” moment made my night. Thank you. LOL
Really liked the map clips for reference. Fire as always
Suggestions for video
1. What was the land of Punt, Egypt's greatest trade partner?
2. Did Thylacines really go extinct when we believe they did, or was it much later, or are they possibly still alive?
I'm gonna guess it didn't go well for Punt, considering how we use the word now, lol
@@MrAdamArce I would assume they were _kicked_ out of Egypt at one point.
Well thanks for the compliment and shout-out, Simon!
I don't really understand the duolingo hate, I did it for a couple hours a day for about 2 years and then started watching TV in German it was perfectly adequate. I feel like some adults just don't understand how to use tools like that to learn with, like its a free gamefied application that is designed to teach only the basics of vocabulary, pronunciation (and annunciation) and grammar. If treat it as if its only a game then sure the random sentences you learn aren't going to be that useful, but when I did it I only used that as the base line and was trying to learn how to construct new language structures and not just memorize specific sentences. When you learn a language in university you don't memorize random sentences and call it a day you learn about the language components and how to use them construct words, sentences and larger structures, when I see ads for babbel claiming that they choose useful sentences so you can be talking in less than a month, I am always thinking to myself "That's not how learning a language works". I will admit that if I didn't decide to immerse myself in watching German TV and going on German forums that I probably wouldn't have had the experience of learning a second language, but also I can't imagine that a second language could achieved just by using any bit of software.
the best explanation I found was that through trade, some islands producing copper were relying on food from the main land. when drought hit, food stopped coming, so they went for the food.
The story would have spread fast and motivated others, making it impossible to say who raided whom.
A nice, even-handed discussion of a topic that can get quite heated thanks to the lack of information. Really well done!
Your videos never disappoint. Serious content interspersed with verbal zingers that leave me in stitches.
I highly recommend Eric Cline “Bronze Age collapse” - both book and CZcams lecture ;)
Agreed, actual facts n data.
I don't believe in conspiracy theories but it would be pretty funny if Simon came around on the crazy theories just like he did on the death penalty on casual criminalist😂
People are always against the death penalty....until they start looking into violent crime. Then they support it.
I wish we knew more about the place they came from because they are so reminiscent of the Viking raids that came much later. And as we know raiding was just a profession for them but the home life for those Vikings is what truly showed their culture.
Given how like the Vikings they were I wouldn't be surprised if some were given land in return for service against their colleagues.
Agh!!! My favorite podcast with my favorite mystery! Hell yes!
Just crying out hope into the void doesn't mean you think there is someone there to answer, it just means that's all you can do.
Please consult Historia Civilis's video on this if you're interested. It's always fun to listen to Simon's take on a subject though.
14:01 Depends on the Pharoah, but most actually actively participated in their battles and conquests. It was expected of them as Pharoah of Egypt and as a God.
Rameses II was one of Egypt's greatest conquerors and was often on the campaign trail.
Thutmose III was a great conqueror and is known as the Napoleon of Egypt. Though I'd argue that Napoleon should have been known as the Thutmose of France given Thutmose existed millenia before Napoleon, but I digress.
Thutmose III was responsible for spreading ancient Egypt's borders to their furthest extent. And yes, he was in the campaign trail.
I'm here for Simon trying to pronounce "thoo SID did ease".
"just a nepo baby" aka hereditary monarchy?
I love this particular topic and always love it when it's their time to pop up in the history lecture series I like to listen to. If I've learned anything, the more sure someone is about who they were, the less you should trust them.
So happy the sea peoples are well known enough to get on from Simon and co
I’m convinced not only is human civilization a lot older than we think but we lost priceless knowledge of human history when the libraries of Alexandria and Baghdad were burned to the ground
Ancient Alien Theorists say YES!
Thanks for this one!
Very good video. A concise recapping of current theories of the sea people.
Simon is the perfect example of "you don't know what you have until it's gone"
How many views do the channels he quit, some of our old favorites, get now? 20k in a week? And here we are on his new channels (hopefully earning him more direct money) with his videos having 5, 10, 25 thousand views in an hour or so.
Yes, I followed Geographics and Biographics and would just watch, because even if I didn't care too much for the topic, it was easily digestible info in a decent format. Usually learned something, but Simon is a good host, and that sadly hasn't been replaced. Who knows what went on on that side of things, but it's a shame those channels ended up dying.
Simon left those channels of his own accord.
@@resileaf9501 hence why I said he quit?
@@wesleymorris6862 Was replying to the other guy implying poor treatment.
Tbf his 11 current channels (that I know of anyway) all are doing well, and how he has the time and manages to have enough content for them is impressive, never mind if he still did any previous channels (5 that I know of)!
AmIRightPeter?!
I haven't even watched this yet and I am excited I've been waiting for this one.
I am 90% sure I have been on that exact cable car. It was to the “Golden Top Temple” or something. There were busted cable cars with caution tape on them returning as we went up 😅
22:53 -- Thucydides is pronounced "thu-sid-i-dese". Well-known and easily looked up.
A+ video!
LOVE IT!
Interesting little pre-history lesson there. Duo-Ligwo? :) To learn Czech I went to a pub where I couldn't speak English - do that - you will also get pretty drunk.
This is simultaneously fascinating interesting educational mysteries and hilarious! Well done all
I like the little audio scramble at the beginning of these videos
Right on!! Love this one
Sooo hyped for this!!!!
I think my new favorite saying is “Nepo baby”. 😂
Simon: "we all live in a civilization."
How Simon's not a meme machine is the greatest mystery.
Simon, you're having way too much fun!
I was enrolled in a college course on geo-political issues and the fall of societies. One example we covered was these events of the collapse of the Bronze Age.
26:14 normally it stops at 35, but as you mentioned, if it gets bad enough they can extend that to 60.
I love this format
@1:18 - the aphorism, at least as I heard it, is "there's no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole." But, I think Simon might appreciate the quip from the (US) Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers, who have said "atheists in foxholes" isn't so much an argument against atheism as it is an argument against foxholes.
one quick note Rameses 3 was nepo-baby of Merenptah who was nepo-baby of Rameses 2
Plot twist: It was people from Atlantis.
The bronze age collapse!
16:52
Yeeeah, duolingo is more of a study aide (or to help maintain your language skills if you don't have the opportunity to use them regularly) than an actual language course.
I've been doing the French course for a year, I'm not significantly any further along than I was when I stopped taking French classes in school. I can remember that stuff more easily and quickly though.
Making me sound like an addict here, Soo happy to see a new vid
Man, remember learning about this in school
this is your best one yet, ilsa !
Simon you not so big brain ❤
Ooooh! This will be exciting
I've read a theory that it was the collapse of the empires and their trade routes that gave rise to the iron age. Copper is pretty common in the areas around the Mediterranean but tin (the other component of bronze) is much less common and was traded over vast distances. The theory goes that when people couldn't get tin, they had to turn to something more readily available. Iron wasn't unknown during the Bronze Age, but it is harder to smelt and in some respects is less durable than bronze, so its use was limited. When bronze was no longer an option, iron became the go-to metal. It does make sense, but I'm no scholar of ancient civilizations.
How about a Decoding The Unknown on the man in the iron mask. Who was he? How true is his story? It's a great historical mystery. Those are my favorites.
Rameses III father was a usurper who took the throne by military force and only ruled 4 years before he died and Rameses III came to the throne. So he was probably in his father's army and probably did know a lot about fighting battles.
Judging by the title only, I don't even have to finish watching this to know it will be really really good
The Egyptians knew who the sea peoples were, they had previous engagements with them fighting both with and against them. They had descriptions of some of the tribes that made them up
I've never heard you speak Czech, but I'm down for this.
I come to these videos for the fascinating topics, but I stay for Simon's tangents. Please Simon, we need a channel where you just go off on tangents.
But if that was the point of the channel would they still be considered tangents?
The Sea Peoples are kinda like that buddy who from college who never grew up and only shows up when you’re having a really bad day and then proceeds eats all of the food in your fridge.
I’ve been on a party bus that ended the same way as the sea people.
Just woke up the next day with no memory, but with all the marks and bruises of complete mayhem.
Perhaps it was ancient party ships that got out of control…
omg my favorite topic!
Amount of times I've been on a cable car 0
Amount of times ive heard Simon's story about cable cars across his various channels 5000
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Ramses the 2nd was one of the greatest Pharoes.
Your last question just made me think only of "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia." The Storm of the Century episode, are they rioting or are they looting.....were they rioting or looting!???! XD 😂❤️🔥
Definitely needed some more greatworks and exported board game figurines, stone cuts and assembly lines, and sounds like possibly a few norse mixed in with the sea people vikings and evil mushroom men. And as we say, guide the weary traveler to the rivers of the nile, and khufu's solar ship. Though some of the day labor jobs can lead to more permanent employment and pay a little more than a pittance, when I didn't have better things to do on my days off sometimes?
now THAT should be interesting!
Woohoo, great subject!
Amazing work thank you all . 👏 Lol so many times. It's so funny that is so true 🤣🎉❤
Loved it!
3/5 stars.
If you know you know.
I love calling Pharaohs nepo babies lol
Broo i caught youre other video earlier today as well!! Lit lit 75th!!
Tangent Clock please!
When Simon just rambles and improv’s… it’s UNWATCHABLE.
Soon to be cited in term essays everywhere. “BANKS, Izle, Who Were The Sea People 2024”
Really enjoyed the research and history in this one.
According to my DNA these people were probably my ancestors. I’m from the islands of the Mediterranean mixed with Anatolian. It was cool reading about my specific island being a pirate island recently. And hearing this episode just adds to it. Very interesting.
Good work facts boy 👍
Awesome topic, considering I only found out about em a few years ago learning about Troy.
It's happening now, as their own lands become uninhabitable they will come for ours.
That jab at hitchings is hilarious