@@louhodo5761 Landing the space shuttle is like landing a DC9 with engines in full thrust reverse. In fact the live trainer for Shuttle pilots was a DC-9....
Some clarification from the ATC side, the main reason for the report call is to relay to the crash trucks how long they have for the inbound. Also they may not have a radar in the tower cab so it aids the controller in knowing where emergency aircraft is so that they can move traffic around as necessary.
The narration of this event was mind blowing. The video showed me, just an aviation fan, nothing. The audio gave me some clues. The narrator stopping the video to explain the split second decisions all four pilots made gives me insight into a world I can only dream about. All videos like this tell me why I would have never been successful as a fighter pilot and make me thankful for those that made the cut. To have someone take the time to explain what is going on is just beyond cool.
The level of skill shown here is very much trainable. Try not to place fighter pilots on a pedestal of unachievability, it would go against the core message of this channel.
24 years in the Air Force, 3 assignments working maintenance on Vipers, and I never heard about this, how could that be? What a story and video! Thanks!
Most likely Jeremy, mishaps like this are kept within the "Ops' World". Not much for Mx to know about this seeing as how there wasn't a fatality. In my 25 years of working Mx & then in Ops there were many in-flights I experienced that never made it out of the Ops' world or even beyond the Mx Group. Never understood this mindset, but one would hope the "lessons learned" made it out to the community in some form.
25 yrs in Air Force, 6 assignments working vipers, 2 on Eagles. Most of the Time if it wasn't published in the Air Force Times, or Stars & Stripes overseas, we never heard about it in MX. Unless you had a Lockheed Tech Rep who loves telling stories you'd never know.. Once I became a Pro Super and attended ALL the meetings then you knew what went on. 23AMU- Fighting Hawks
I have been out at General Dynamics / Lockheed since 1981 and I remember this incident. The one thing that you didn’t mention is that if you look at the artificial horizon on the HUD, you will notice that after he breaks out of the clouds, he does two high bank turns. First a right handed and then a left. Thats because when he popped out he was something like 1 mile from the end of the runway and 2 miles off to the left of it. This required the two high risk maneuvers, to get back in line with the runway!
Sierra Hotel , glad to see you showcasing the outstanding piloting skills of my old Viper squadron the Capital Guardians of tbe 121st FS. Never get tired of reviewing the HUD from this viper save.
I had an amazing tour of the 121st FS back in 03 or 04 while I was linguist/analyst stationed at Fort Meade and working Air Force National Tactical Integration. The intel officer, Major “Nuts” McNulty was a great dude. Introduced us all to the term “fucknozzle”.
Hello. I'm a new subscriber. I'm retired Air Force and finished my 20 years of service at Luke AFB. I recognize that wooden plaque on the wall behind you. I made it. I made those and the 61st Top Dogs, and my AMU The 309th Wild Ducks. I'm Ret TSgt Randy Anderson. It's really cool seeing it proudly on your wall.
Another F-16 flame out/glider landing occurred 10 years prior to this one. In 1986, an F-16C had a deadstick landing at Glenview NAS, north of Chicago. I remember watching the cockpit recording and listening to Capt. Vincent Amato's breathing as he came in. To say he was stressed would be quite the understatement.
I was living in Palatine at that time, not far from Glenview. What I remember was that he was above a cloud deck and used ground control radar to put him off the end of the runway... Harrowing. They showed the HUD view on the news, but I never found it on-line.
@@johngoscinski1995 Search on "Pilot skillfully lands his F-16 after losing engine". Not Glenview, but it is a late 80s F-16 Engine out landing worth watching, I promise.
I had a long career with the 162FW as a Crew Chief and Flight Chief. I remember watching this video sometime in the late 90's. You did a great job of breaking down the multitude of tasks the pilot is faced in a situation like this. I never thought CRS was a thing in fighters but you showed how important your wingmen are in an emergency. They deserve as much credit as the pilot for the successful landing.
That was so tense, what a great job that pilot did!! I worked ER/Trauma so I know about the importance of top notch team work, and their team work was exemplary,well coordinated.Everyone knew their job and performed it flawlessly,especially the pilot bleeding off the speed(not sure if that is correct term) while landing. Thank you for the translation of all the military/flight terminology and instrumentation...I had heard many years ago,a story of a big passenger aircraft gliding in(I wasn't too sure if it was a made up story) and never thought about an F-16 having that capability but then again, most of it was pilot skill,great knowledge of aerodynamics,and implementing his training to the max!! Thank you for a great presentation and thank you for your service to our country, Mover! 🇺🇲❤️🇺🇲
Hey Mover, Navy H-60 driver here and a big fan. After a year away on the Nimitz I'd love to throw my 2 cents (which is what it's worth). Love your videos and love this break down. Great to see the principles of CRM in the single seat community executed to perfection. Everyone in the division showing great DAMCLAS as needed to assist in completing the problem as efficiency as possible. All for one and one for all in this one. Additionally love you bringing this up as an example for prospective pilots. CRM is the way we fly and the way we fight. Hooyah!
I've seen this on youtube a number of times, but without your "narration" I wasn't able to understand what this awesome pilot was doing AND what his wing-men were doing to help. Outstanding job, CW. New subscriber here for sure
The warning about the EPU is highly relevant. You do NOT want to be anywhere near a jet that's got a fired or running EPU without full hazmat-gear on. One of the first things we did as a Viper-groundie when entering the hardened shelter in the morning was take a quick sniff. Hydrazine smells like ammonia, and if you can smell that, you close the door and call the fire/rescue-crews just to be safe. Pulling the EPU-pin as a groundie is also something you do carefully, as if the EPU should fire due to for example a generator-blip, you're awfully close to the rather hot and ammonia-filled exhaust-gas. The NFPA-704 for Hydrazine is something that deffo makes you sit up and take notice. H70 in its raw form is nasty as hell.
@@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 It's easy, it's reliable, it works. It's not the best and I'm sure you could develop better stuff nowadays. But hydrazine reacts with nothing else needed, so it's very reliable.
great video Mover the commentary is great on what's really going on. The way the entire flight changed modes and pivoted is a testament to the training and skill.
A great video with excellent narration thank you Mover. I was glad you explained the misconception many folks have on thinking CRM doesn’t exist among the fighter jocks, well done. This was an excellent example of it as well the great piloting skills involved.
That was a really great talk through. I wouldn’t have understood that you actually have 4 pilots using CRM. That was really slick how they took so much off his mind and task list. They also did a better job of communication with the ground than any emergency I’ve heard. Nice work all around. Preparation met opportunity, often confused for good luck.
Can't hit like enough! Great job Pilot! I'm reminded by the way everyone performed of, "Am I my brother's keeper" yes we all are! Or our sister's keeper! One team one fight! The breakdown was awesome and I understood the whole thing. What awards were earned that day?
Earlier on than this there was an F-16 that flamed out north of Chicago and deadsticked into the Glenview NAS and used the arresting cable. There was a similar HUD video of that if you want to see it and can get it.
I could have done with seeing this in 1982. I would have known what Hydrazine was and avoided a bit of a scene. At that time I was an RAF Policeman at RAF Waddington in Lincolnshire. We were on Exercise when my self and another patrol were ordered to secure a pan for an incoming F-16 (I forget whose) which was experiencing an exercise "Hydrazine leak". What fun! It made a change from all the Vulcans we were used to anyway. We duly "secured" the pan (which was on its own near to the "burning area", for anyone that knows Waddo) by the four of us standing around it with Sterling SMG's, a look of steely determination on our faces and our hands in our pockets, and watched with interest as the F-16 landed and taxied into our pan. It parked up and as it was shutting down a rather red faced young techie officer, I think he was a Pilot Officer but I may be remembering wrong, came running in behind it, shouting and waving his arms. We watched his approach with almost the same interest as we had watched the F-16 as his voice was utterly drowned out by the F-16. Eventually he reached us and shouted "Who's in charge here?!", all sweaty. "You are Sir!" I replied. He was not amused. "Don't try to be bloody funny Corporal! For your information you're all dead" He shouted the last part rather unneccesarilly as the F-16 shut down. "It was a Hydrazine leak! Don't you know its lethal?!" He asked incredulously, "Well Sir, considering we had never even heard the word "Hydrazine" until instructed to come to this pad , no Sir" I replied "But we do now. Perhaps someone should have mentioned it to us". "What an absolute farce!" he shouted as he turned and stormed off. "Yes Sir. Does this mean we can have the rest of the exercise off, Sir?" I asked as he stomped away. Apparently it didn't.... And that's how I learned what "Hydrazine" is.
That was so cool. Thank God for the EPU. Hydrazine is no joke. That’s what was used as the fuel component in ICBM propulsion systems. There was a very sad occurrence in a Titan II missile silo back in the early 80s where a large socket fell from a technician’s ratchet, dropped 80 ft. and ended up piercing the missile above the first stage fuel tank. The mixture, aerozine 50 was made up of 50% hydrazine. When it blew, it catapulted a 740-ton missile silo door away. An airman lost his life, one was seriously injured, and many others faced varying degrees of injury.
So many different elements came together for this landing to work. Expert flying from the emergency, coordination of tasks between 3 other expert pilots *and* ATC, all with the minimum necessary talking to not distract the pilot, keeping calm and focused whilst knowing you have one shot to land and very little time, and expert formation flying from the others to keep an eye on the situation, again all without unnecessary talking. So much training and practice to be able to perform like this!
Excellent breakdown, Mover! Thank you for all of the info, as always. Second - though - what an INCREDIBLE display of brotherhood and teamwork. Incredible!
I used to love seeing the F16s in Vermont, I worked close to the airport a.few times and what a show! Interesting to watch this with someone that knows what's happening really cool
I had an engine failure and landed safely. The training kicked in and saved my butt. Granted it was in a GA airplane but it is the same in any airplane when you unexpectedly become a glider. For me I wasn't nervous or scared durring my engine out but time slowed down. Its crazy how it did that. It was about a half hour after landing and I was running it thru again that I got the shakes. Memory items and training. Train, train, train. Hopefully you never need it but when you do there is no substitute. This pilot was working it and did exceptional. Thank you.
This is a great example of everybody doing their jobs. On one hand..nothing special, just followed training. On the other hand, these guys are all fuckin heroes..well done!!
Looks like he stopped right about at the 1,000 foot markers on the far end of the runway, so he got it stopped in about 6,200 feet (Runway 10/28 at KECG does not have a displaced threshold).
I first seen this video many years ago, and understood much of what is going on, and was impressed, but I never picked up on the resource management aspects from his team. This video is so much better with your commentary to help put everything in context. There is so much more to learn from this video than I first realized. Makes me wonder if GA and civilian ATC could benefit more from this sort of CRM training, where the CRM extends beyond the cockpit, and everyone is taught how to help each other better like this?
@Frank Silvers Don't forget thst we Weapons troops have to stand right next to that EPU exhaust when doing a gun load or a gun firing circuit test. Let me tell you I eyeballed that safety pin all the way from the wingtip before I moved in!
@Frank Silvers The people who safe & service H-70 get hazard pay (Fuel Systems personnel). Servicing and piloting are each conducted in enclosed areas where the exposed party is trapped, which is far more dangerous than getting a whiff of it in open air. It's not harmless, but it's also not some sort of instant Hollywood death scene if you happen to smell its presence and exposure is mild. If you breathe it in too much, you can permanently damage your lung tissue. If your skin / eyes are exposed to the liquid it burns like a bad sunburn and it can literally kill you, cause blindness and organ failure. It is also extremely volatile, reacting violently and explosively when it contacts materials and petroleum distillates commonly found in aviation vehicles and environments. By far the highest risks are to pilots and to those who service & handle the hydrazine. As for carcinogenic data, there is plenty of evidence it causes an increase in lung and colon cancer in animals. The F-16 uses a diluted solution of 70%, as opposed to the higher percentages you'll find in rockets.
@Frank Silvers No engine, no bleed air = no pressure. And when there is pressure, where do you think that possibly contaminated air comes from...and what might it do the pilot's exposed eyes? Not sure what's got you bristled but I meant no offense. Detecting the presence of smoke by smell from a distant or budding fire is not the same thing as being trapped and forced to breathe in hearty lungfulls.
A great explanation and comment on this fairly elderly incident. As you quite rightly say the pilot was obviously very talented and I suspect experienced but it is the crew aspects that were really brilliant.
The ATC guy was my instructor for Instrument rating, and a fellow C-130 crewman when we were in the Coast Guard. Runway 10 was a good choice, as far as ADM. If he overan the runway, there is plenty of open farmland...unlike coming in on 28 ( houses, busy road leading in and out of the Main Entrance to Airsta Elizabeth City. )
Hey Mover, definitely a great video, really good too see how the single seat's use CRM - they were certainly all involved and were a part of his success. Excellent example, thanks.
We used to evacuate the flight ramp during accidental EPU activation every now and then. Those who were close in got taken to the hospital for evaluation. Hydrazine is no joke. 😒
@@robertstack2144 Symptoms of acute (short-term) exposure to high levels of hydrazine may include irritation of the eyes, nose, and throat, dizziness, headache, nausea, pulmonary edema, seizures, and coma in humans. Acute exposure can also damage the liver, kidneys, and central nervous system in humans. (From the EPA website)
@@Darknamja I worked at GD in flt test, 77-81 Dr Bose, chief engineer on the EPU told me its no more dangerous than household ammonia. The EPA considers everything a threat and has people with a lot of problems, as I recall seeing at a House inquiry.
@@robertstack2144 No argument from me. I maintained the F-16 from '83-'97 and have always erred on the side of caution when it comes to Hydrazine exposure. Have a good one.
I was at the F-16 SPO in the early 80's. The engine was the bane of the F-16, responsible for 50% of the loss of aircraft. P&W had the original contract, and in response to the failures, the GE 110 was qualified. In the end, as this video demonstrates, it's still a single-engine. And for that reason at least, fitted with hydrazine backup so the electric controls would have effectivity, at least as long as an aircraft would be expected to remain airborne engine-out. And it's a myth that the F-16 has dynamic "instability". The actual design was for *relaxed* stability, enhancing the maneuverability - impressive roll rate.
When I was at Hickam AFB, flying C-130's 1981-1985, there was a squadron of T-33's there as well. They had a guy flame out on final to RW08L. Instead of turning right and punching out over the Hickam harbor area, he opted to dead stick on to taxiway 7 that led from the Hickam ramp to 08L departure end. Fortunately for him there weren't many aircraft on the parking areas on either side of the taxiway and he came to a screeching halt in front of the AF fire station. Fortunately, no one got hurt and he came out looking the hero and got a big AFA award or something for airmanship. All to save an obsolete 30 yr old jet.
Your CRM is better. You can tell him what’s on fire and what’s bent. Leaking fluids, etc. you have full instruments down to angle of attack (by visual). Little chance of mistaking too fast for too slow, or doing a death spiral in a cloud.
Hydrazine is used as a rocket fuel. Titan II used a mix of hydrazine and UDMH (Unsymmetrical Dimethyl Hydrazine) with Nitrogen Tetroxide as the oxidizer, which is a hypergolic mix. I've seen hydrazine described as "probably carcinogenic", which might be because it's also a strong caustic agent and a neurotoxin, so living long enough after significant exposure to be sure about its carcinogenicity is ... problematic. "His face and lungs melted and his entire central nervous system shut down. We think he was also going to get cancer."
great video. Amazing piloting. Great explanation. I really appreciate the video. I hope to see more about how CRM works with military pilots and how you guys do safety. I am no a pilot just a flight simmer but I really appreciate the video's and the insight into how the military does that sort of thing.
You should do a video on the video of the Danish F16 with broken landing gear right after take off. Lots of debugging and troubleshooting before the final outcome.
I saw that. Ejection is, of course, the last resort but I was surprised it took so long to make that call. It's clear that the left main drag pin separated from its mount, like the mount was ripped open. You can see the drag pin (with nut?), & the swivel & hyd hoses still connected to the upper drag brace & downlock actuator, respectively. The lower drag brace is connected to the tension strut collar by a pin, which is still in place. That gives about 3 feet or so of pogo stick below the left main to flip the jet during landing. The drag brace locks the gear in the down & locked position & also aligns the main tire with the aircraft centerline, so it seems it should've been pretty straight forward, although the people on the ground coordinating would've had to fully understand that. Ejection was the only real choice but I'd like to know how & why it failed. On a side note, the downlock switch is mounted on the drag brace (which was technically still in the down & locked configuration). When depressed, it illuminates the green down & locked light in the cockpit. The harness was ripped from it, which is why he lost the safe indication on the left main with gear down. He should've also had a red warning light in the gear handle.
I had to rescue a falcon in the early 90's also. We had a pair of block 10's leave for a routine training flight. 30 minutes later we we're called for an emergency response team to head to Vandenberg AFB. One of our F-16's had the life raft inflate in flight. This pinned the pilot forward in the cockpit. he still had minimal arm movement, so he was barely yet still able to fly the a/c. Because of his position and him being unable to reach for his knife, it was him successfully landing the plane for him to survive, ejection obviously impossible. We got word while in the air to VAFB that he indeed landed safely. This happened pretty early in their sortie and they were right off the coast, close to Vandenberg. The second ship followed and coached all the way to the ground, and with plenty of fuel remaining RTB'ed.
@@Formula1st Fun and Sun is a very large air show with vendors for civil aviation. It is held in Lake Land Florida and if you search for Fun and Sun in CZcams you will find a lot of videos. So if you are a pilot, its a great time.
This video reminds me of how incredible our defense tactics work to save this pilots life. Thank you all for your service to our country. I had plans to join the Airforce, but my airman’s physical revealed my color blindness to red and green just before my commercial license so I went into medicine, worked many years in the ER at night. In the end I got to do an exciting job in a career that was exciting and difficult and rewarding, and no 2 patients were the same.
Also, when spotting a guy down, its key to follow with an appropriate offset up and/or to the side, in the case the emergency-involved aircraft is donating parts.
I don't remember the F-16 ever having a AOA in the HUD... but the last one I flew was a Block 20 a long time ago. If I remember correctly, we had the AOA Indicator under the airspeed and the AOA Indexer to the left of the HUD, but nothing integrated into it.
I flew with Chris at my airline. He is an absolutely awesome pilot and check airman. This video still amazes me.
Solid work by these dudes. Never a good day to be a 30,000lb ish brick.
No more choo choo
I did it in a Pitts. I can attest it's not good to be a 1500lb brick either.
Congratulations, he is now qualified to land the Space Shuttle.
Space shuttle has a better glide slope... Only slightly.
@@louhodo5761 I thought that had a 1:1 glideratio. That's way worse than this.
@@louhodo5761 Landing the space shuttle is like landing a DC9 with engines in full thrust reverse. In fact the live trainer for Shuttle pilots was a DC-9....
@@louhodo5761 wow with have similar interests :)
@@confuse3671 Actually it was a Gulfstream. Not DC-9/MD-80.
Some clarification from the ATC side, the main reason for the report call is to relay to the crash trucks how long they have for the inbound. Also they may not have a radar in the tower cab so it aids the controller in knowing where emergency aircraft is so that they can move traffic around as necessary.
I appreciate all the 'jibber jabber' because without it I wouldn't know nearly as much about what was going on here. Thanks for all the great videos.
The narration of this event was mind blowing. The video showed me, just an aviation fan, nothing. The audio gave me some clues. The narrator stopping the video to explain the split second decisions all four pilots made gives me insight into a world I can only dream about. All videos like this tell me why I would have never been successful as a fighter pilot and make me thankful for those that made the cut. To have someone take the time to explain what is going on is just beyond cool.
The level of skill shown here is very much trainable. Try not to place fighter pilots on a pedestal of unachievability, it would go against the core message of this channel.
You could have done it.
24 years in the Air Force, 3 assignments working maintenance on Vipers, and I never heard about this, how could that be? What a story and video! Thanks!
Most likely Jeremy, mishaps like this are kept within the "Ops' World". Not much for Mx to know about this seeing as how there wasn't a fatality. In my 25 years of working Mx & then in Ops there were many in-flights I experienced that never made it out of the Ops' world or even beyond the Mx Group. Never understood this mindset, but one would hope the "lessons learned" made it out to the community in some form.
Sec mode much?
You sound like a crew chief? No offense at all! We would have just heard about this in the engines back shop
25 yrs in Air Force, 6 assignments working vipers, 2 on Eagles. Most of the Time if it wasn't published in the Air Force Times, or Stars & Stripes overseas, we never heard about it in MX. Unless you had a Lockheed Tech Rep who loves telling stories you'd never know..
Once I became a Pro Super and attended ALL the meetings then you knew what went on.
23AMU- Fighting Hawks
Only thing that was relayed to Eng shop was. Eng failed in flight on the Tag. Lol. EMS Super would know what happened.
I have been out at General Dynamics / Lockheed since 1981 and I remember this incident. The one thing that you didn’t mention is that if you look at the artificial horizon on the HUD, you will notice that after he breaks out of the clouds, he does two high bank turns. First a right handed and then a left. Thats because when he popped out he was something like 1 mile from the end of the runway and 2 miles off to the left of it. This required the two high risk maneuvers, to get back in line with the runway!
Sierra Hotel , glad to see you showcasing the outstanding piloting skills of my old Viper squadron the Capital Guardians of tbe 121st FS. Never get tired of reviewing the HUD from this viper save.
I had an amazing tour of the 121st FS back in 03 or 04 while I was linguist/analyst stationed at Fort Meade and working Air Force National Tactical Integration. The intel officer, Major “Nuts” McNulty was a great dude. Introduced us all to the term “fucknozzle”.
Thanks for breaking this down, incredible skill by the pilot. Nice to know your buddies have your back while you're up there.
I remember when this happened. The pilot was interviewed by the TV news a few days later. I think it made the national news.
Yeah I remember this too !
"The jettison fuel tanks landed harmlessly in a back yard" 'OH JESUS my root vegetables and water feature!'
“George, there’s something in the yard, were you at the flea market again”?!?!
NOT THE WATER FEATURE! #WeWillRegrow #WaterIsLife
@@c1ph3rpunk 😄😄😄😄
I was sitting there thinking, if this happened to me “hmmmmm what to do with these”.
Hey Sgt., if you let me keep one of the tanks for a backyard BBQ conversation piece, we'll replace the sod ourselves...
Hello.
I'm a new subscriber. I'm retired Air Force and finished my 20 years of service at Luke AFB. I recognize that wooden plaque on the wall behind you. I made it. I made those and the 61st Top Dogs, and my AMU The 309th Wild Ducks. I'm Ret TSgt Randy Anderson. It's really cool seeing it proudly on your wall.
Another F-16 flame out/glider landing occurred 10 years prior to this one. In 1986, an F-16C had a deadstick landing at Glenview NAS, north of Chicago. I remember watching the cockpit recording and listening to Capt. Vincent Amato's breathing as he came in. To say he was stressed would be quite the understatement.
I was living in Palatine at that time, not far from Glenview. What I remember was that he was above a cloud deck and used ground control radar to put him off the end of the runway... Harrowing. They showed the HUD view on the news, but I never found it on-line.
@@johngoscinski1995 Search on "Pilot skillfully lands his F-16 after losing engine". Not Glenview, but it is a late 80s F-16 Engine out landing worth watching, I promise.
Just goes to show you how well trained these guys are!
its ther damn job^^
Veteran to Veteran and pilot to pilot, thank you for serving. Excellent job of narration. You know your stuff! God's Blessings.
Good video Mover the best part of the flame out is he lived and had great team mates ! a very much needed thing of life . be safe all be good humans
A true example of why I've always loved flying in the Military. The professionalism is by far the absolute best!
I had a long career with the 162FW as a Crew Chief and Flight Chief. I remember watching this video sometime in the late 90's. You did a great job of breaking down the multitude of tasks the pilot is faced in a situation like this. I never thought CRS was a thing in fighters but you showed how important your wingmen are in an emergency. They deserve as much credit as the pilot for the successful landing.
this vid popped up several times on my rec-list and i finally watched it! thx for that great breakdown of an amazing emergency landing!
I really enjoy your videos, as a civilian who is not involved with aviation it’s extremely interesting to learn about! Very well done Mover.
That was so tense, what a great job that pilot did!! I worked ER/Trauma so I know about the importance of top notch team work, and their team work was exemplary,well coordinated.Everyone knew their job and performed it flawlessly,especially the pilot bleeding off the speed(not sure if that is correct term) while landing. Thank you for the translation of all the military/flight terminology and instrumentation...I had heard many years ago,a story of a big passenger aircraft gliding in(I wasn't too sure if it was a made up story) and never thought about an F-16 having that capability but then again, most of it was pilot skill,great knowledge of aerodynamics,and implementing his training to the max!! Thank you for a great presentation and thank you for your service to our country, Mover! 🇺🇲❤️🇺🇲
Hey Mover, Navy H-60 driver here and a big fan. After a year away on the Nimitz I'd love to throw my 2 cents (which is what it's worth). Love your videos and love this break down. Great to see the principles of CRM in the single seat community executed to perfection. Everyone in the division showing great DAMCLAS as needed to assist in completing the problem as efficiency as possible. All for one and one for all in this one.
Additionally love you bringing this up as an example for prospective pilots. CRM is the way we fly and the way we fight. Hooyah!
I've seen this on youtube a number of times, but without your "narration" I wasn't able to understand what this awesome pilot was doing AND what his wing-men were doing to help. Outstanding job, CW. New subscriber here for sure
The warning about the EPU is highly relevant. You do NOT want to be anywhere near a jet that's got a fired or running EPU without full hazmat-gear on. One of the first things we did as a Viper-groundie when entering the hardened shelter in the morning was take a quick sniff. Hydrazine smells like ammonia, and if you can smell that, you close the door and call the fire/rescue-crews just to be safe. Pulling the EPU-pin as a groundie is also something you do carefully, as if the EPU should fire due to for example a generator-blip, you're awfully close to the rather hot and ammonia-filled exhaust-gas.
The NFPA-704 for Hydrazine is something that deffo makes you sit up and take notice. H70 in its raw form is nasty as hell.
Good explanation of the EPS/EPU and hydrozine. That was a big issue at Hahn AB when we first got the F-16s in the early 80s.
Still find it strange that they decided to use a hazardous volatile liquid fuel to power the EPU seems like it was an unnecessary exposure risk
I spent a bunch of time at Hahn airport (former AB) over the years for work. Great community and area. I miss that place.
@@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 It's easy, it's reliable, it works. It's not the best and I'm sure you could develop better stuff nowadays. But hydrazine reacts with nothing else needed, so it's very reliable.
What an amazing display of piloting and support!!
great video Mover the commentary is great on what's really going on. The way the entire flight changed modes and pivoted is a testament to the training and skill.
Thanks for breaking this down. It’s awesome seeing CRM between single seat fighters. These guys all did an outstanding job.
A great video with excellent narration thank you Mover. I was glad you explained the misconception many folks have on thinking CRM doesn’t exist among the fighter jocks, well done. This was an excellent example of it as well the great piloting skills involved.
That was a really great talk through. I wouldn’t have understood that you actually have 4 pilots using CRM. That was really slick how they took so much off his mind and task list. They also did a better job of communication with the ground than any emergency I’ve heard.
Nice work all around.
Preparation met opportunity, often confused for good luck.
Can't hit like enough! Great job Pilot! I'm reminded by the way everyone performed of, "Am I my brother's keeper" yes we all are! Or our sister's keeper! One team one fight! The breakdown was awesome and I understood the whole thing. What awards were earned that day?
Here here!!
That's awesome how they all work together and are always there for each other.
Great video. I wouldn't know what was going on without the breakdown.
Absolutely excellent handling skills and CRM all round. That thing comes down like a streamlined anvil! Great job.
Good explanation, especially about the CRM. There are other videos out there of IFEs where the CRM was not so good, but it was outstanding here.
Awesome review of an F16 engine out emergency landing.....Thank you, Mover, for the knowledgeable commentary!!
Earlier on than this there was an F-16 that flamed out north of Chicago and deadsticked into the Glenview NAS and used the arresting cable. There was a similar HUD video of that if you want to see it and can get it.
I could have done with seeing this in 1982. I would have known what Hydrazine was and avoided a bit of a scene.
At that time I was an RAF Policeman at RAF Waddington in Lincolnshire. We were on Exercise when my self and another patrol were ordered to secure a pan for an incoming F-16 (I forget whose) which was experiencing an exercise "Hydrazine leak". What fun! It made a change from all the Vulcans we were used to anyway.
We duly "secured" the pan (which was on its own near to the "burning area", for anyone that knows Waddo) by the four of us standing around it with Sterling SMG's, a look of steely determination on our faces and our hands in our pockets, and watched with interest as the F-16 landed and taxied into our pan.
It parked up and as it was shutting down a rather red faced young techie officer, I think he was a Pilot Officer but I may be remembering wrong, came running in behind it, shouting and waving his arms. We watched his approach with almost the same interest as we had watched the F-16 as his voice was utterly drowned out by the F-16.
Eventually he reached us and shouted "Who's in charge here?!", all sweaty.
"You are Sir!" I replied. He was not amused.
"Don't try to be bloody funny Corporal! For your information you're all dead" He shouted the last part rather unneccesarilly as the F-16 shut down.
"It was a Hydrazine leak! Don't you know its lethal?!" He asked incredulously,
"Well Sir, considering we had never even heard the word "Hydrazine" until instructed to come to this pad , no Sir" I replied "But we do now. Perhaps someone should have mentioned it to us".
"What an absolute farce!" he shouted as he turned and stormed off.
"Yes Sir. Does this mean we can have the rest of the exercise off, Sir?" I asked as he stomped away.
Apparently it didn't....
And that's how I learned what "Hydrazine" is.
That was so cool. Thank God for the EPU. Hydrazine is no joke. That’s what was used as the fuel component in ICBM propulsion systems. There was a very sad occurrence in a Titan II missile silo back in the early 80s where a large socket fell from a technician’s ratchet, dropped 80 ft. and ended up piercing the missile above the first stage fuel tank. The mixture, aerozine 50 was made up of 50% hydrazine. When it blew, it catapulted a 740-ton missile silo door away. An airman lost his life, one was seriously injured, and many others faced varying degrees of injury.
This would quite the interview for the channel!
Another great video. I really enjoyed this. If only all mishaps turned out this happy.
So many different elements came together for this landing to work. Expert flying from the emergency, coordination of tasks between 3 other expert pilots *and* ATC, all with the minimum necessary talking to not distract the pilot, keeping calm and focused whilst knowing you have one shot to land and very little time, and expert formation flying from the others to keep an eye on the situation, again all without unnecessary talking. So much training and practice to be able to perform like this!
Thanks CW, really enjoyed the teamwork of the crew management. Nice dead stick landing.
Brilliant video and brilliant narration - fascinating stuff. Thanks Mover!
Excellent breakdown, Mover! Thank you for all of the info, as always. Second - though - what an INCREDIBLE display of brotherhood and teamwork. Incredible!
I used to love seeing the F16s in Vermont, I worked close to the airport a.few times and what a show! Interesting to watch this with someone that knows what's happening really cool
Thanks tons mover. nice narration.
I had an engine failure and landed safely. The training kicked in and saved my butt. Granted it was in a GA airplane but it is the same in any airplane when you unexpectedly become a glider. For me I wasn't nervous or scared durring my engine out but time slowed down. Its crazy how it did that. It was about a half hour after landing and I was running it thru again that I got the shakes. Memory items and training. Train, train, train. Hopefully you never need it but when you do there is no substitute. This pilot was working it and did exceptional. Thank you.
Which flight sim were you playing?
"They landed harmlessly in a backyard."
Return the tanks to the taxpayers!
Excellent debrief, very interesting, Thanks!
This is a great example of everybody doing their jobs. On one hand..nothing special, just followed training. On the other hand, these guys are all fuckin heroes..well done!!
Great job
Looks like he stopped right about at the 1,000 foot markers on the far end of the runway, so he got it stopped in about 6,200 feet (Runway 10/28 at KECG does not have a displaced threshold).
Excellent video and great explanation Mover. Glad the pilot and squad was well trained.
This video was great. Amazing coordination between the aircraft and the tower. Solid work by everyone involved.
Solid example of how training matters. I used to see guys practicing SFO approaches a lot, and this is why. Because it happens. Thanks, Mover!
I first seen this video many years ago, and understood much of what is going on, and was impressed, but I never picked up on the resource management aspects from his team. This video is so much better with your commentary to help put everything in context. There is so much more to learn from this video than I first realized. Makes me wonder if GA and civilian ATC could benefit more from this sort of CRM training, where the CRM extends beyond the cockpit, and everyone is taught how to help each other better like this?
Rockin' it again CW! Keep 'em coming!
Nice video, nice clarification an tips, ty!
Bad ass CRM and explanation from Mover.
Great example and explanation of teamwork under stress. Thanks for making a post of it.👍
So glad I never had to deal with hydrazine during my five years F/L on F-16’s.
Guys your pilot of f16?
@Frank Silvers Don't forget thst we Weapons troops have to stand right next to that EPU exhaust when doing a gun load or a gun firing circuit test. Let me tell you I eyeballed that safety pin all the way from the wingtip before I moved in!
@Bill....the Homestead in the 90's Bill Brockman?
@Frank Silvers The people who safe & service H-70 get hazard pay (Fuel Systems personnel). Servicing and piloting are each conducted in enclosed areas where the exposed party is trapped, which is far more dangerous than getting a whiff of it in open air. It's not harmless, but it's also not some sort of instant Hollywood death scene if you happen to smell its presence and exposure is mild. If you breathe it in too much, you can permanently damage your lung tissue. If your skin / eyes are exposed to the liquid it burns like a bad sunburn and it can literally kill you, cause blindness and organ failure. It is also extremely volatile, reacting violently and explosively when it contacts materials and petroleum distillates commonly found in aviation vehicles and environments. By far the highest risks are to pilots and to those who service & handle the hydrazine. As for carcinogenic data, there is plenty of evidence it causes an increase in lung and colon cancer in animals. The F-16 uses a diluted solution of 70%, as opposed to the higher percentages you'll find in rockets.
@Frank Silvers No engine, no bleed air = no pressure. And when there is pressure, where do you think that possibly contaminated air comes from...and what might it do the pilot's exposed eyes? Not sure what's got you bristled but I meant no offense. Detecting the presence of smoke by smell from a distant or budding fire is not the same thing as being trapped and forced to breathe in hearty lungfulls.
A great explanation and comment on this fairly elderly incident. As you quite rightly say the pilot was obviously very talented and I suspect experienced but it is the crew aspects that were really brilliant.
like you said: some people have ice water running through their vains. amazing how calm he stayed throughout this landing.
I really enjoy these videos! I love your play by play analysis...👍
The ATC guy was my instructor for Instrument rating, and a fellow C-130 crewman when we were in the Coast Guard. Runway 10 was a good choice, as far as ADM. If he overan the runway, there is plenty of open farmland...unlike coming in on 28 ( houses, busy road leading in and out of the Main Entrance to Airsta Elizabeth City. )
Really love these kinds of video. Please do more!
Hey Mover, definitely a great video, really good too see how the single seat's use CRM - they were certainly all involved and were a part of his success. Excellent example, thanks.
We used to evacuate the flight ramp during accidental EPU activation every now and then. Those who were close in got taken to the hospital for evaluation. Hydrazine is no joke. 😒
Dr Boos said it is as dangerous as household ammonia
@@robertstack2144 Symptoms of acute (short-term) exposure to high levels of hydrazine may include irritation of the eyes, nose, and throat, dizziness, headache, nausea, pulmonary edema, seizures, and coma in humans. Acute exposure can also damage the liver, kidneys, and central nervous system in humans. (From the EPA website)
@@Darknamja I worked at GD in flt test, 77-81 Dr Bose, chief engineer on the EPU told me its no more dangerous than household ammonia. The EPA considers everything a threat and has people with a lot of problems, as I recall seeing at a House inquiry.
@@robertstack2144 No argument from me. I maintained the F-16 from '83-'97 and have always erred on the side of caution when it comes to Hydrazine exposure. Have a good one.
@@Darknamja thank you. Have a good day
I was at the F-16 SPO in the early 80's. The engine was the bane of the F-16, responsible for 50% of the loss of aircraft. P&W had the original contract, and in response to the failures, the GE 110 was qualified. In the end, as this video demonstrates, it's still a single-engine. And for that reason at least, fitted with hydrazine backup so the electric controls would have effectivity, at least as long as an aircraft would be expected to remain airborne engine-out. And it's a myth that the F-16 has dynamic "instability". The actual design was for *relaxed* stability, enhancing the maneuverability - impressive roll rate.
Love these videos, so interesting to have you explain all of this stuff. Keep it up!
Nice stuff Mover
Solid work CW---I feel like a real tool now complaining about my printer being jammed up.
That was intense!
Awesome!! Nice narration and review.
When I was at Hickam AFB, flying C-130's 1981-1985, there was a squadron of T-33's there as well. They had a guy flame out on final to RW08L. Instead of turning right and punching out over the Hickam harbor area, he opted to dead stick on to taxiway 7 that led from the Hickam ramp to 08L departure end. Fortunately for him there weren't many aircraft on the parking areas on either side of the taxiway and he came to a screeching halt in front of the AF fire station. Fortunately, no one got hurt and he came out looking the hero and got a big AFA award or something for airmanship. All to save an obsolete 30 yr old jet.
The situational awareness in this video is above my pay grade as a PPL
Awesome example of cool airmanship and recovery possibilities of fighter aircraft like the 16. Hope he was a major by the end of the day.
Wow, this is truely amazing. I can’t imagine what was going through his mind when the engine flamed out though, kudos to the pilot and ATC.
Your CRM is better. You can tell him what’s on fire and what’s bent. Leaking fluids, etc. you have full instruments down to angle of attack (by visual). Little chance of mistaking too fast for too slow, or doing a death spiral in a cloud.
Amazing break down Mover!
Hydrazine is used as a rocket fuel. Titan II used a mix of hydrazine and UDMH (Unsymmetrical Dimethyl Hydrazine) with Nitrogen Tetroxide as the oxidizer, which is a hypergolic mix.
I've seen hydrazine described as "probably carcinogenic", which might be because it's also a strong caustic agent and a neurotoxin, so living long enough after significant exposure to be sure about its carcinogenicity is ... problematic. "His face and lungs melted and his entire central nervous system shut down. We think he was also going to get cancer."
Hey Mover, do the video of the Israeli F-15 emergency landing with engine fire after hitting birds after takeoff , I can help with translation ; )
Super job, #3 should have been shared in the airmanship award!
Amazing stuff Mover, I'm learning a lot of stuff and is all cool! Thank you
Got an award for dropping fuel tanks on a populated are despite having plenty of airspeed for the landing
great video. Amazing piloting. Great explanation. I really appreciate the video. I hope to see more about how CRM works with military pilots and how you guys do safety. I am no a pilot just a flight simmer but I really appreciate the video's and the insight into how the military does that sort of thing.
Thanks for sharing all your knowledge with us 👍
Very informative awesome 😎 job explaining Sir!
You should do a video on the video of the Danish F16 with broken landing gear right after take off. Lots of debugging and troubleshooting before the final outcome.
Id enjoy seeing a video on that
100% agree. Was just thinking that
I saw that. Ejection is, of course, the last resort but I was surprised it took so long to make that call. It's clear that the left main drag pin separated from its mount, like the mount was ripped open. You can see the drag pin (with nut?), & the swivel & hyd hoses still connected to the upper drag brace & downlock actuator, respectively. The lower drag brace is connected to the tension strut collar by a pin, which is still in place. That gives about 3 feet or so of pogo stick below the left main to flip the jet during landing. The drag brace locks the gear in the down & locked position & also aligns the main tire with the aircraft centerline, so it seems it should've been pretty straight forward, although the people on the ground coordinating would've had to fully understand that. Ejection was the only real choice but I'd like to know how & why it failed.
On a side note, the downlock switch is mounted on the drag brace (which was technically still in the down & locked configuration). When depressed, it illuminates the green down & locked light in the cockpit. The harness was ripped from it, which is why he lost the safe indication on the left main with gear down. He should've also had a red warning light in the gear handle.
I had to rescue a falcon in the early 90's also. We had a pair of block 10's leave for a routine training flight. 30 minutes later we we're called for an emergency response team to head to Vandenberg AFB. One of our F-16's had the life raft inflate in flight. This pinned the pilot forward in the cockpit. he still had minimal arm movement, so he was barely yet still able to fly the a/c. Because of his position and him being unable to reach for his knife, it was him successfully landing the plane for him to survive, ejection obviously impossible. We got word while in the air to VAFB that he indeed landed safely.
This happened pretty early in their sortie and they were right off the coast, close to Vandenberg. The second ship followed and coached all the way to the ground, and with plenty of fuel remaining RTB'ed.
Just back from Fun and Sun. Next year you should try and make it.
@Emmanuel Ponce what is it you’re trying to advertise
@@Formula1st Fun and Sun is a very large air show with vendors for civil aviation. It is held in Lake Land Florida and if you search for Fun and Sun in CZcams you will find a lot of videos. So if you are a pilot, its a great time.
@@davidwhite2011 I was replying to a different guy, they deleted the comment
Hey Mover, thanks for the solid content. I'd be interested in seeing a similar analysis of your T-38 compressor stall on take off video.
This video reminds me of how incredible our defense tactics work to save this pilots life. Thank you all for your service to our country. I had plans to join the Airforce, but my airman’s physical revealed my color blindness to red and green just before my commercial license so I went into medicine, worked many years in the ER at night. In the end I got to do an exciting job in a career that was exciting and difficult and rewarding, and no 2 patients were the same.
Also, when spotting a guy down, its key to follow with an appropriate offset up and/or to the side, in the case the emergency-involved aircraft is donating parts.
I don't remember the F-16 ever having a AOA in the HUD... but the last one I flew was a Block 20 a long time ago. If I remember correctly, we had the AOA Indicator under the airspeed and the AOA Indexer to the left of the HUD, but nothing integrated into it.
Amazing, loved your commentary
Even his breathing was pretty calm and steady through out
Nice camera you got there!