GRIM REAPER MINI MAG PRO, 100 gr: Broadhead Test
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
- This is a test of the 100 gr Grim Reaper Mini Mag Pro Series, with the 2023 retention cup.
Here is summary of my 2024 Testing Procedure & Scoring w/the scores of this head posted in parenthesis as well.
1. Flight Forgiveness (20%, 18 pts)
I'm using a Killer Instinct SWAT X1 crossbow, mounted to a BOG tripod, shooting a 670 gr Bishop Archery GOAT bolt (300 fps) at 30 yds. Field points consistently hit in the 10 ring & bullseye. I use the exact same bolt to shoot the broadhead. The only difference in the two shots is the broadhead's flight forgiveness vs that of the field point. A bullseye gets a score of 11/10, or a perfect score of 20 + 1 Bonus Point. The 10 ring gets a 10/10, or 20 points; a 9 ring gets a 9/10 or 18 points...& so forth, with each wider ring being 1/2" farther from the bullseye. Mechs are also given 1 Bonus Point for extra forgiveness.
2. Cut Size (20%, 15.29 pts)
The more tissue being cut, the more lethal the head, all else equal. The entrance cut, total cut, & width of the cut (a crucial variable for bloodletting) are all scored:
The entrance cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" then that fraction is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.32” + .3" = 1.62" = 4.54 pts)
The max cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" as well, then that fraction is is weighted to 7% of the score. (2.5” +.3" = 2.8" = 7 pts)
The max cutting diameter is compared to a standard of 2.0", then that fraction is weighted to 6% of the score. (1.25" = 3.75 pts)
3. Blades (20%, 18.81 pts)
Initial sharpness (9%, 233 grams = 9.67/10 = 8.7 pts & Edge Retention (9%, +5 grams = 9.9/10 = 8.91 pts) are measured using the Edge On Up Sharpness Tester. The pressure needed for a blade to cut thru a copolymer wire is measured in grams.
Edge Retention is the loss of sharpness after the head is shot in Penetration Test 1, thru 1/2" MDF & 2/3" rubber foam mat & Clear Ballistics FBI gel. For every 50 "grams" of sharpness lost, 1 point is deducted from 10.
What are some sharpness scores for common edges?
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge: ~ 375 grams of pressure.
A utility razor blade: 200 grams.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
Ease to resharpen or replace blades is judged & given 2% of the score. (6/10=1.2 pts)
4. Penetration (20%, 13.11 pts)
There are 2 penetration tests:
Pen Test 1: 1/2" MDF, 2/3" rubber foam mat, Clear Ballistics FBI gel. Depth of penetration is compared to a standard of 9" & weighted to 10% of the score. (5.75" = 6.4 pts)
Pen Test 2: Layered cardboard. # of layers penetrated is compared to a standard of 70 layers & weighted to 10% of the score.
( 47 layers= 6.71 pts)
5. Durability (20%, 14.7 pts)
Each head is shot thru 1/2" MDF 3 times. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 12% of the score. (9/10 = 10.8 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot thru 22 ga steel plate twice. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 5% of the score. (6/10 = 3 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot into concrete once. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 3% of the score. (3/10 = .9 pts).
Steel plate & concrete are certainly not "realistic" mediums, but they do reveal the outer limits of a head's durability.
BONUS:
+1 pt: mech flight forgiveness
+ 1 pt no O ring
+.84 pts cut size greater than baseline
TOTAL SCORE: 82.75 pts = 8 Golden Arrows
Price: $16.67/head
Special Notes:
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Smoked a many of whitetails with a GR Pro Mag 1 3/8. Never one problem. So glad the company is doing their own thing and doing it right and not selling out to some group.
Yep!
Best bow hunting related channel on CZcams
I agree. I won't shoot a broadhead that fails his tests. I'm not hunting concrete blocks, but if it can survive that test, it will survive anything in the woods.
@@tray22surviving the brick test is the least important out of all his tests. So it really doesn’t matter.
@progradepainting3755 Wouldn't you agree if it survived the brick it will survive anything in the woods? I am an engineer, and 300% beyond expected conditions is my baseline. If it loses blades in mdf and sheet metal, it is total garbage. I prefer to buy once and resharpen until I lose the thing entirely.
@@tray22 nope, don’t care. I’m not concerned in the least if the broadhead doesn’t survive the rock I hit on the other side of the animal, because I’m a hunter, and I’m 300% concerned with what it does when I do hit the animal, and if I can hit the animal accurately with said broad. Definitely not concerned with aerospace engineering for hunting purposes. We’ve been killing animals with stone points for thousands of years.
@@progradepainting3755 Stone points will outperform many of the fancy heads on the market. Including the grim reapers. KISS doesn't work well for the broadhead market because that would mean the head does its job and is reused without buying a new one every shot.
Grim Reaper Broadheads. My favorite BH.
Good to hear
My go to channel when looking into a new broadhead for this season
Much appreciated.
Awesome content @Lusk Archery Adventures and John!
Thank you
Gotta love Grim Reapers! Another great video John thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching!
Another great test. I have always wondered how much shrapnel is in your backyard from exploded broadheads LOL. Keep up the good work ! I watch every video you upload. Cheers !
:)
Probably the best whitetail head made. The mini mag sucks the life out of deer. The internal trauma of the mini mag and carnifour is unbelievable. Another awesome test John.
Thanks for sharing that.
Another great test John. It would be awesome if you added an "entrance hole" test with expendable heads. God bless!
Thank you. I actually do that :) It’s been a part of the Cut Size score sheet
for the last 3 years-It’s listed as “entrance cut”. I often show the hole in the rubber foam mat. Front deploying mechs almost always have the same entrance hole as they do in the closed position. If a rear deploying mech does not open properly in the rubber foam mat, I do a secondary opening test on leather, stretched across a cardboard box.
I'm a sevr man. But i actuly like the style of this head. But it's hard to give up the sevr. Because they work so well. Thanks for another great video sir.
Thanks Jason.
Love the fixed blade Hades
That test is coming up later on
@@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 blade not 4
I have harvested more animals with the Grim Reaper heads than any other broadhead! They are awesome and have never failed me. Can’t say the same for the Rage, Rockets, Wasps, Hammerheads, Muzzy 4 blades…Love the videos and the thoroughness with the testing. Keep the videos coming!
Thanks for sharing that.
I’ve harvested every whitetail I’ve hit with wasp jackhammers, rocket mini blasters , rocket sidewinders , original rages , and rage hypodermics
As far as over the top deployment goes they do OK. However, penetration is a little short and sometimes like most of these type, the blades may not deploy on initial penetration so the entrance hole may be less than full diameter
Yep
We’d like you to test the G5 T2 please
I'd like that as well. Last I looked, I can't even find a place that has them in stock.
Great review as usual.
I killed my first deer with grim reaper. They perfom well. I just don't love the small entrance holes that over the top style mechanicals provide. If you get a pass thru they're great. If not be prepared for a sparse blood trail.
Thanks for the comment.
Think i prefer the carnifour because they say the smaller blades deploy when the longer blades hit the hyde so i would think you would get a better entry wound.
Thanks for sharing that.
6:28 A little wobbly on the spin test there... Is this from the brodhead or the arrow? If the same arrows are being used repeatedly for this testing I have to wonder if the inserts don't eventually get messed up.
Not the arrow. I test them all the time if a head wobbles.
Can you test the new G5 T2 broadhead I’m interested in its design and trying it out myself but I always watch your broadhead test videos first before purchasing
I’d sure like to. If someone donates it, I’ll test it. But at present I have vid tests done and scheduled to drop thru May. Then I have 32 more heads, waiting to be tested.
I know the tekan was I believe one of their first mechanicals many years ago. I remember seeing David blanton using them in some old videos. They may be an updated version of that head possibly.
Just an idea, maybe for next year's tests. Use the scale on the sharpness tests to show how many grams of force it takes to open the mechanical broadheads to their full open position. I haven't seen anywhere on the broadhead packaging how many foot pounds or grams of force it takes out of the arrow system to fully deploy them.
Thanks Mitchel.
I tried these before and got horrendous penetration. Sevr's are still the only mechanical I fully trust.
Thanks for sharing that experience.
my buddy used to use those GR heads, they did work, but they are one and done. all the little funky figity parts inside the head get destroyed. if they just used a simple replaceable band it would be a 100 times better head.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Grim Reaper while they are becoming good classics they need to get back to the drawing board if they want to keep market share with other mechanicals. The bar is very high right now if not at the ceiling for what a mech head is capable of. Thanks John
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Penetration was not very good. John do the manufactures share their specs regarding types of metals used? Thanks for your continued testing
Many do; some do not. Grim Reaper does.
I personally don't like these type of BH, I prefer fixed or cut on contact, only because I have a 26:in draw length, I just don't trust the penetration..
But I can see how they could be deadly in the right set-up
I get it. Thanks for the comment.
I'll speak to my experience. I have a 26.5" draw, 70# bow, 440 grain arrow.
I killed a mule deer with a grim reaper fatal steel at 64 yards. STEEP quartering away, it entered just Infront of the right rear quarter and exited behind the shoulder in the pocket on the other side. The arrow went coast to coast and ROCKED that deer. He went about 100 yards, downhill, bedded up and died.
Another great video. I can't wait to see the black flag archery hemorrhage broadhead review if you ever get some.
Thanks.
I smoked 2 boars few days ago with the mini mags ….ive had many pass throughs on hogs using these….
Nice!
I feel that four blades are just too much for penetration. I use 3 blades. Open a nicer hole over a slit of two blade. No more than 1 3/4” diameter. 1 3/8 is great. 125 gr. Does anyone else prefer 3 blade over 4? Doesn’t matter?
Each are better in different situations. A 3 blade cuts bone in 3 planes. But a 4 blade only cuts bone in 2 planes. In softer tissue a 3 blade can penetrate better, especially if it has a smaller cut size. But in bone, the 4 blade has an advantage of cutting thru it in only two planes and of course it often cuts more total tissue.
It does look slightly bent?
I was going to make the same comment.
@@ryanmarino4230 it did pretty well though! lol
It did wobble slightly, out of the package.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures probably just 1 out of thousands 🤙🏼 love the videos Mr. lusk!
@UCm5rgwXpPfjkLoyuUJZMt4A 2 out of 4 of mine wobbled right out of the pack
How can I send you a pack of broadheads?
Thanks. My address is 2502, Sun Grove Road, Melissa TX 75454, United States. Pls just make sure I’ve not tested them recently.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures you haven't ever tested them. They are the Rage Chisel tip - 3 blade
Smoked a huge pig with one. It bled like mad
Nice
Naaaa a I'm good lol
:)
Broadhead was wobbling , junk
Very slightly. Pls remember that is zoomed in and blow up. I couldn’t detect that when I first spun it. I only saw it when I was editing the footage.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures could be why it wasn’t flying with field point
Junk
Well, a lot of people love them and say they perform very well on animals.
The second I saw this head I thought Uh oh, John is going to expose this one on the metal and brick test.....no surprise here...Congratulations on that last hunt beautiful deer and great to see the Sever 1.75 perform well.....I will have those in my quiver during my fall elk hunt in Arizona and the Exodus as my go to fixed blade. Thank you again for what you do John. You have put an end to many archery shop "Opinions" on what heads work and what does not.
Thank you
Sik sk2 has the best retention clip in mho
Ok