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@@larrydeanpickering5085 i did too, the robots just fell into action as they always do, they delivered him in fantastic position at the goat path and the rest was on Primoz.
I think he means he would have ridden most of the climb at a slower pace but the attacks - first by Sivakov and mostly the second by the long solo run of Felix Gall forced him to go to the front and chase both down as he knew only he could do it.
Gee's Primoz your allowed to ask them to slow down if the teams going too fast in the heat... He saying he accidently won as he didn't know the teams strategy... Really???
@@epincion He says 'to go so hard or to control for the victory' so he is clearly talking about his own team. He is a bit tongue-in-cheek and hard to pin down in interviews so I doubt they actually made a decision on their own.
Not easy being a millennial fighting against all those Gen Z youngsters firing at you. I appreciate Roglic more and more even though he is not at his peak anymore. Winning Vuelta at this stage of his career would simply be an amazing achievement.
@@iann23 Didn't know millenials are one entity that feels about Gen Z that way, according to you also one entity. Maybe stop making stupid sweeping statements like this.
But I really feel like he could do well in this vuelta GC. His tt was a bit less catastrophic than the usual ones which indicates that he is in excellent form
Here is where Rogla has the edge, first stop the ride on computer after finish pedaling, then eventually celebrate. Would never have problem with early celebration 😀
I rode it today, didnt stop once but wrecked me. I got up it on a 34 x 30 but grinding, was so steep. I would say angliru harder. I wouldnt have got up angliru but today i did get up the dirt track, though hellish
Roglic most definitely had me fooled (and many others I guess)........this climb should have been an absolute menace to his back but he was in total control.....we have a winner for this Vuelta if nothing happens to him!!!
@@youngloudandscotty did you perhaps notice that after the 3km steep section it flattened off and nobody was working with Rog so of coarse other would come back. If that that steep section kept going nobody would have returned.
Nice to see Roglic back on top and always a pleasure to hear his witty and unassuming comments, a nice change from his compatriot...Also nice to see some "normal" racing again !
Agree...Really Primoz... You don't remember the team meeting where it was agreed the team would take the initiative and guide peleton to last climthen you do your best to win? Don't rember it? ... Ohhh ok... More coffee for Primoz
I wonder why Roglic is racing so much better in the Vuelta than in the Tour - year after year! In the Tour he is often bad positioned and makes mistakes - here he is in the perfect spot and is reading the race perfectly. Big congratulations for that win!!!
@@Dr-bob1337 that's not my point; Roglic is riding much smarter and more intelligent, in the TdF he was always in the wrong position - and that had nothing to do with JV, RE and TP
Yes I get your point but I think it has to do with it. He rides smarter when there is no top guns around him. Probably a mental thing, he cannot deal with pressure like these guys.
@@Dr-bob1337 or he want the TdF to badly and is uptight... I also believe it is a mental thing. It's a shame, though 34 he is still strong and I think he is a really nice person - I would wish him a good TdF result...
Excellent observation that at the left turn onto the steep last 5km, both of the VLB GC riders were not in the position they should have been within the top 15 riders at the turn. However did it matter? Neither Sepp nor Cian could keep up with the surge of Sivakov and then the increased pace of the top 4 that was caused by the long solo attack of Felix Gall who in my opinion went too early. He could have held a podium if he had attacked a km later.
If he paced with roglic they drop everyone except Mas and mayyybe van eetvelt. I don't even think Almeida Comes fully back if they keep pacing regularly
It's crazy how hard JV have fallen. 1 Kooij win in Giro, 1 Vingegaard win in TdF, and 1 Wout win in Vuelta, and that's it for the Grand Tours. They're already too far behind on GC to win, no way Kuss or Uijtdebroeks can gain that much time on a good Roglic or Almeida. Is it just all the falls during the season or is something else going on?
Losing roglic didn’t help and having both of your superstars have season defining crashes is always going to hamper a team a lot. Tbf they’re still 2nd in uci points it’s just hard to keep up with the uae super team. I wouldn’t say they’ve fallen that hard.
It sounds like riders were worried about blowing up due to the heat, and that is why some of them didn't attack. Gall said afterwards that he felt his attack may have hurt him a bit, because he was overheating too early. I don't blame Mas too much for being passive here, as I don't think he can really gain much at this point in the race, but he can lose a lot if it backfires
It's all downhill in my ride to work which is nice, but then I have to climb for 30 minutes to get back home after I'm exhausted from working all day 😂
Been thinking! Would it be easier on the riders and safer also if each team had a motorcycle in the race to carry fluids and food closer to the peloton. They could also be used to distribute as a mobile feed points rather than cause crashes from the side of the road.
Actually, it's a good idea. It would be much easier to the riders - no need to go back to the team car and then chase the peloton with all the cargo and no supplements area where we have seen so many stupid crashes. Good point 😊
I like that the post-race interviewer (not sure of his name, he's also been doing the TdF for many years) often asks the winner to "talk us through the last few kms", because as a fan that's really interesting to me. But invariably the riders don't answer the question (like Primoz here), they just blab on about being grateful, or how good their legs are, or how well their team worked, or how hot it was, instead of giving us the tactical insights that the interviewer was trying to extract from them.
basically the climb is about 5% steep on average, but that includes flat parts, descents and an extended 3-4% section in the first two thirds, and then rampas inhumanas at the end. much harder than a climb that's 5% the whole way
It means a climb that is so irregular that the average stats of the climb are deceiving about it's difficulty. This final climb of the stage was 6.2% on average, but had multiple kilometers at 13%. Therefore, the 6.2% are fake news, the climb is much harder than it sounds.
I dont see anyone capable of defeating Roglic. Almeida should go for stage wins he already has a 3rd Place at Giro. D Italia what does a podium at Vuelta help? I dont see him ever winning TDF unless he finds more and he is i think at his max. Its a real shame he is such a great rider. He does have a decent sprint. Only by being more audatious can he go up a notch. Aggressive attacking he has great fitness.
Doesn't it look like Van Eeetvelt is coming extremely close to that camera in the finish? Or is that just due to perspective? But it almost looks like he was dodging that big video camera rather than celebrating. anyway, its a weird arm movement he does. But I doubt he'll ever celebrate before the finish line in a race ever again!
No need to take away from roglic’s win. It’s not like almeida and Yates are just pogi’s domestiques. There’s probably one rider in the world who has a shot against pogacar so there’s no shame in being worse than him.
@@charlierennie9192 There is literally no people in the world who have a shot against pogacar which is clear as day. And yes Yates and Almeida are his domestiques no need to sugar coat it😅
@@Michael_J218 I mean vingegaard absolutely has a shot against pogacar. Can’t just discount the two tours he won over pogi. Also they’re not just his domestiques are they. The may have acted that way at the tour but Yates won Swiss this year and is a tour stage winner. Almeida has a giro podium. For most other teams they’d be their gc superstar and besides roglic is a level above them anyway.
@@charlierennie9192 he has no shot at all in reality. Pogacar needs to not be at 100% to be remotely close to him thats just the reality. silent now cba with mc donald workers go with your logic there with those fellows.
@@Michael_J218 I mean he absolutely has a shot. Pogi was at his best in 2022 and pretty much in 2023 and Jonas obviously wasn’t at his best this year with the crash that happened. I think pogi would’ve won anyway but winning two tours against him gives you the right to say you have a shot at beating him.
@@chrisko6439 Could? It would be a walk in the park. The only way it's not a walk in the park is if top form Vingegaard is there. There's Pog and JV miles above the rest, then there's Remco and Primoz and then Almeida.
more a mental thing at that pace, as long as you can hold the wheel you keep your confidence and press on, if the wheels disappear in front of you while you are over the limit, that is when it gets hard to keep going.
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Roglic's interviews are always a banger. "Nobody asked me!"
I laughed at that!🤣
Check out his monster 16-pack!
"The team even more, ah?" hahaha
@@larrydeanpickering5085 i did too, the robots just fell into action as they always do, they delivered him in fantastic position at the goat path and the rest was on Primoz.
When you are expected to win, there is no question - do the job 🙂
'nobody ask me. If they would ask me probably I wouldn't say it' - lmao. Primož is being forced to win at gunpoint.
I think he means he would have ridden most of the climb at a slower pace but the attacks - first by Sivakov and mostly the second by the long solo run of Felix Gall forced him to go to the front and chase both down as he knew only he could do it.
Gee's Primoz your allowed to ask them to slow down if the teams going too fast in the heat... He saying he accidently won as he didn't know the teams strategy... Really???
@@epincion He says 'to go so hard or to control for the victory' so he is clearly talking about his own team. He is a bit tongue-in-cheek and hard to pin down in interviews so I doubt they actually made a decision on their own.
RAAAAH ROGLIC WIN WTF IS A CELEBRATION
The race organizers keep finding these super steep climbs in Spain . What a finish.
RAMPAS INHUMANES! LA RHYTHM OF LA WELTA
I'm amazed this didn't qualify for a shout of "rampas inhumanes". Must be harder to come!
easy bro
Rampas cabras clearly
Landa coming back and almost surprising them all at the end was incredible!!! Hopefully he can get on the podium by the end of it💪🏻
Not easy being a millennial fighting against all those Gen Z youngsters firing at you.
I appreciate Roglic more and more even though he is not at his peak anymore. Winning Vuelta at this stage of his career would simply be an amazing achievement.
Winning another Vuelta will make him a legend, if he's not that already...
@@MiguelCyc Of course he is a legend, he started World Tour racing at 26 and had endless falls along the way, yet he is here…
Why? Millennials think Gen Z are lazy. This would just be proof.
@@iann23 Didn't know millenials are one entity that feels about Gen Z that way, according to you also one entity. Maybe stop making stupid sweeping statements like this.
@@gasgano8255 no. You knob.
felix gall is the most one-dimensional rider and I kinda love him for it. literally only good at climbing up super steep ramps
But I really feel like he could do well in this vuelta GC. His tt was a bit less catastrophic than the usual ones which indicates that he is in excellent form
@@raphaelovicstrassovic9440Unfortunately now he is working for his "leader" (because of the gifted 6:30 time) who can't hold on his wheel 😢
Why do riders still celebrate before crossing the line? Just wait half a second more.
Here is where Rogla has the edge, first stop the ride on computer after finish pedaling, then eventually celebrate. Would never have problem with early celebration 😀
Seriously. The photographers will wait for the pose, don't worry. Nobody's gonna publish a dud.
I don't agree he was celebrating. I think he was just pitching up slightly in desperation.
@@Judewilkinsonjfkhe wanted to celebrate but halfway of raising his arm realized that this fucked him over
@@Judewilkinsonjfk he didn't ride full all the way, clear on the slowmotion.
I rode it today, didnt stop once but wrecked me. I got up it on a 34 x 30 but grinding, was so steep. I would say angliru harder. I wouldnt have got up angliru but today i did get up the dirt track, though hellish
Respect
I have to give it to Primoz he's so special in the uphill sprints. 💥💥💥
agreed. he's also special when it comes to staying on his bike ;)
@@tymanski1 And what makes you special, being bad in everything in general? 🤡😂
I really like the way Roglic interviews
Reaction time of a sprinter when i saw the video
Roglic most definitely had me fooled (and many others I guess)........this climb should have been an absolute menace to his back but he was in total control.....we have a winner for this Vuelta if nothing happens to him!!!
too early to say that
He fail to drop the other guys, and then won the sprint where he is strong and you already saying he won lol
@@Henrique-ex4vmhe dropped everyone except for Mas and that other Lotto guy.
@@GerhardVA seven guys in the group to the finish. If you drop some guys then they catch you up did you really drop them?
@@youngloudandscotty did you perhaps notice that after the 3km steep section it flattened off and nobody was working with Rog so of coarse other would come back. If that that steep section kept going nobody would have returned.
Thank you for the great recaps. Can’t watch the Vuelta this year, so this is, as always, great!
When you say "Almeiding", here in Porugal we call it ; Almeidada!
Nice to see Roglic back on top and always a pleasure to hear his witty and unassuming comments, a nice change from his compatriot...Also nice to see some "normal" racing again !
at 2:40 vlasov is marked as roglic when chasing sivakov
Roglic does deliver the best interviews 😁😂🤣
Agree...Really Primoz... You don't remember the team meeting where it was agreed the team would take the initiative and guide peleton to last climthen you do your best to win? Don't rember it? ... Ohhh ok... More coffee for Primoz
And outebrooks is turning out to be an average rider at best... How mucdid we spend on Mr Smiley Positive dude from Belgium?
I wonder why Roglic is racing so much better in the Vuelta than in the Tour - year after year! In the Tour he is often bad positioned and makes mistakes - here he is in the perfect spot and is reading the race perfectly. Big congratulations for that win!!!
Maybe because there's less fierce fighting for position
And most teams only send their second string… no Jonas, pogi or remco.
@@Dr-bob1337 that's not my point; Roglic is riding much smarter and more intelligent, in the TdF he was always in the wrong position - and that had nothing to do with JV, RE and TP
Yes I get your point but I think it has to do with it. He rides smarter when there is no top guns around him. Probably a mental thing, he cannot deal with pressure like these guys.
@@Dr-bob1337 or he want the TdF to badly and is uptight... I also believe it is a mental thing. It's a shame, though 34 he is still strong and I think he is a really nice person - I would wish him a good TdF result...
Roglic: "Ag I may as well win it"
Rogla looks lean and mean.
You know it must be rediculously steep when the street is made of concrete
Roglic and WVA being on different teams still feels wrong
Excellent observation that at the left turn onto the steep last 5km, both of the VLB GC riders were not in the position they should have been within the top 15 riders at the turn.
However did it matter?
Neither Sepp nor Cian could keep up with the surge of Sivakov and then the increased pace of the top 4 that was caused by the long solo attack of Felix Gall who in my opinion went too early. He could have held a podium if he had attacked a km later.
If he paced with roglic they drop everyone except Mas and mayyybe van eetvelt. I don't even think Almeida Comes fully back if they keep pacing regularly
Vintage Roglic !
"thinned out the herd"...on the goat path..not ba-a-a-a-a-d commentary🤣
Roglic gives amazing interviews sometimes. “Nobody asked me, eh?”
Let's go Roglić! 🚴♀️
It's crazy how hard JV have fallen. 1 Kooij win in Giro, 1 Vingegaard win in TdF, and 1 Wout win in Vuelta, and that's it for the Grand Tours. They're already too far behind on GC to win, no way Kuss or Uijtdebroeks can gain that much time on a good Roglic or Almeida. Is it just all the falls during the season or is something else going on?
Losing roglic didn’t help and having both of your superstars have season defining crashes is always going to hamper a team a lot. Tbf they’re still 2nd in uci points it’s just hard to keep up with the uae super team. I wouldn’t say they’ve fallen that hard.
Impressive to see how Almeida fights his way back, in his own way
Someone is not happy in the bunch at 1:30
I can’t see anything, where abouts?
Basque temper 😆
@@Hbirdman1994orange boy center of peleton is hitting another guy on the right after he leaned into him
More like 1:27
Looks like its 100 degrees outside.
Wow, can remain funny after a stage like that. Way badass!
Roglic was strong today. But no way nobody asked him. Bora pulled all day.
my goat (literal)
“He starts to thin out the herd.” 😂
Can we talk about the Euskatel rider punching bro at 1:29 of this video?🤣
It sounds like riders were worried about blowing up due to the heat, and that is why some of them didn't attack. Gall said afterwards that he felt his attack may have hurt him a bit, because he was overheating too early. I don't blame Mas too much for being passive here, as I don't think he can really gain much at this point in the race, but he can lose a lot if it backfires
The mountain I live on is just as if not steeper...I see 24 Percent pitches towards the top of the 13 percent average climb to my house.
WOW MAN THAT IS PRETTY COOL THANKS FOR LETTING US KNOW
It's all downhill in my ride to work which is nice, but then I have to climb for 30 minutes to get back home after I'm exhausted from working all day 😂
@@cyrucom Buy electric bike 😉
🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
Roglic looking so fresh after such a hard climb and the heat. Happy for him.
Been thinking! Would it be easier on the riders and safer also if each team had a motorcycle in the race to carry fluids and food closer to the peloton. They could also be used to distribute as a mobile feed points rather than cause crashes from the side of the road.
Actually, it's a good idea. It would be much easier to the riders - no need to go back to the team car and then chase the peloton with all the cargo and no supplements area where we have seen so many stupid crashes. Good point 😊
Credit to the course designers. Brutal stage asking different questions of the riders.
At 1:27 a rider in orange (back middle of the peloton) gives a hulk smash to another rider that bumps into him 😂
1:25 centre of the pack one rider leans into another and then the other hider hits him 😂
One orange rider!
Looks like a rider from Israel Premier Tech is squeezed. The guy hitting him is from Euskadi-Euskaltel
So who is going to gift the red jersey to Sepp Kuss this year, because he is a nice guy.
certainly not Roglic 🙂
Go Rogla !!!!!!!! My hero
I like that the post-race interviewer (not sure of his name, he's also been doing the TdF for many years) often asks the winner to "talk us through the last few kms", because as a fan that's really interesting to me. But invariably the riders don't answer the question (like Primoz here), they just blab on about being grateful, or how good their legs are, or how well their team worked, or how hot it was, instead of giving us the tactical insights that the interviewer was trying to extract from them.
@Hakucho64 I think it's obvious how Roglic does it tactically. It's probably better he doesn't explicitly let people know.
Too soon Jr.
Si nos querelles étaient aussi drôles, nous nous réconcilierions toujours en riant🧡
Great great channel. Appreciate your work
I said it before this is going to be the most spectacular Grand Tour of the Decade. Mark my words
Yeah there are so many mountaintop finishes and so many riders who could top 10 GC. I counted around 25-30 before the race
What does Patrick mean by fake news climb, that it looks like a climb but it's not, or that it doensn't look like a climb but it is?
basically the climb is about 5% steep on average, but that includes flat parts, descents and an extended 3-4% section in the first two thirds, and then rampas inhumanas at the end. much harder than a climb that's 5% the whole way
It means a climb that is so irregular that the average stats of the climb are deceiving about it's difficulty. This final climb of the stage was 6.2% on average, but had multiple kilometers at 13%. Therefore, the 6.2% are fake news, the climb is much harder than it sounds.
@@beckobert thanks
Love it when people celebrate and get owned because they should have been focusing on finishing the race. Ha!
"fake news climb" 😆
primoz just needs to stay on the bike and this tour is over.
Really surprising that such a big group finished together after that climb, apparently the whole stage tempo was quite low
That goat path is the kind of road you want to race down when you're living on the edge.
You ride to the line huh!
Kuss is Sepp-ar-Rated!
Primoz with the inverse Jonas. Clean shave for max aero vs the Jonas scruff to get max mustache power.
Steeper than the last kick on Fleche Wallone?
Mur de huy is 17 percent max, this was well above 20 sometimes and of course for a much longer distance
Hope Kuss gets better later on. 🙏🙏
Good to see Rog back and confident... The TDF is his curse. Should never ride it again.
Roglic did, yeah, pretty good today. But yeah, it was a hard, yeah, day for everyone. Yeah.
04:04 Landa?
Roglic Amen 😂
'Twas a steep one
6:23 I thought exposed cabling was a no-no for the pros!
Lotto is stuck in 2015
Rog leaner than usual?
I dont see anyone capable of defeating Roglic. Almeida should go for stage wins he already has a 3rd Place at Giro. D Italia what does a podium at Vuelta help? I dont see him ever winning TDF unless he finds more and he is i think at his max. Its a real shame he is such a great rider. He does have a decent sprint. Only by being more audatious can he go up a notch. Aggressive attacking he has great fitness.
Doesn't it look like Van Eeetvelt is coming extremely close to that camera in the finish? Or is that just due to perspective? But it almost looks like he was dodging that big video camera rather than celebrating. anyway, its a weird arm movement he does. But I doubt he'll ever celebrate before the finish line in a race ever again!
Shame about GC Kuss today
good for roglic he can compete vs pogacar domestiques. Suits him more as he has no shot against Pogacar and not even close.
No need to take away from roglic’s win. It’s not like almeida and Yates are just pogi’s domestiques. There’s probably one rider in the world who has a shot against pogacar so there’s no shame in being worse than him.
@@charlierennie9192 There is literally no people in the world who have a shot against pogacar which is clear as day. And yes Yates and Almeida are his domestiques no need to sugar coat it😅
@@Michael_J218 I mean vingegaard absolutely has a shot against pogacar. Can’t just discount the two tours he won over pogi. Also they’re not just his domestiques are they. The may have acted that way at the tour but Yates won Swiss this year and is a tour stage winner. Almeida has a giro podium. For most other teams they’d be their gc superstar and besides roglic is a level above them anyway.
@@charlierennie9192 he has no shot at all in reality. Pogacar needs to not be at 100% to be remotely close to him thats just the reality. silent now cba with mc donald workers go with your logic there with those fellows.
@@Michael_J218 I mean he absolutely has a shot. Pogi was at his best in 2022 and pretty much in 2023 and Jonas obviously wasn’t at his best this year with the crash that happened. I think pogi would’ve won anyway but winning two tours against him gives you the right to say you have a shot at beating him.
Wish best sucess out of visma
It's "rik - a -tello" just fyi, I know we americans make it all funny.
It's rich a tello in Italy 🇮🇹.
@@fernandovega5722 yeah but Mathew is from Arizona and says it the way I mentioned.
Pogi should be here...
Yes, coulda been a walk in the park for him.
@@chrisko6439 Could? It would be a walk in the park. The only way it's not a walk in the park is if top form Vingegaard is there.
There's Pog and JV miles above the rest, then there's Remco and Primoz and then Almeida.
If I was a D.S. I would fine any rider that celebrated early and lost. It's beyond ridiculous to lose like that.
We've seen it so often and then we keep seeing it happen!
i will never believe that DRAFTING has a beneficial effect at jogging pace. fractions of a PERCENT maybe.
more a mental thing at that pace, as long as you can hold the wheel you keep your confidence and press on, if the wheels disappear in front of you while you are over the limit, that is when it gets hard to keep going.
Sepp Kuss heart not in it anymore.
I’m a TVL fan, but there is no such thing as GC Kuss. Lovely dude, was at the right place at the right time last year.
riCKitello, not richitello
They are in Europe. In Italy, it's rich a tello. cc is ch.
What stage Roglic is going to crash?
he crashes in the tdf not la vuelta 🙂
When you gonna find out that you are a pure loser?
Van Eetvelt could have won this, but he was punished by the cycling gods for dishonouring the sport by rolling his sleeves up like that 🥲
Don't hate on bro for working on his tan lines...
No crash Roglic is winning Roglic 🥲
Rogla appears trim and tough.