I met a family in Moab last year when I took my husky from the east coast to ride , I’ve been wanting to do this all my life and finally did it and what a time I had , anyway I met a family of 4 that were riding out there all on Chinese dirt bikes they bought off amazon and they said they loved it , the father said he wishes they could have bought Honda’s or a top brand but just couldn’t afford it and they were happy with the knock offs, I don’t put anyone down for buying these just buy one and go ride enjoy your life it’s too short
Great review even though they definitely look the part it seems that they require a few tweaks to get em goin usually with Chinese Dirtbikes they skimp on the key things like the pivots bearings and suspension but if you're mechanically mindful then updates aren't a problem I guess cheers mate Happy Trails
These bikes have pretty decent engines, the engine is made by zongshen. They are pretty popular engine manufacturer so you should be able to get parts for them. might have to ship them from china though so it can take longer to get parts. I used to have a 2009 pister pro lxr160 with a 160cc zongshen engine and that bike lasted over 10 years of hooning. And I replaced the piston and rings for around $30.
There's only like 3 engine manufacturers in China and Zongshen is the biggest one of them all. Pretty much every dirt bike coming out of China is using Zongshen engines.
@Cali_Livin_916 Zhongshen is one but it's second largest to Lifan, Lifan motors believe it or not designed and manufactured the original Lotus engine for the Lotus supercar 💪
I have that same dirt bike same year has a lot of torque and it has been really good it don't like real soft sand too much but other than that it does a great job just make sure you change factory oil and put in some good oil
Did you have it sent “new in a crate” or mostly put together? I am goi by to be getting one and was wondering what new in a crate meant as far as how much I would have to assemble?
What is the starting procedure for the TM31 (If I'm missing something)? Not counting; Hooking up battery, fuel on, key on... It kicks over and starts to idle, then dies, with or without choke on. Once in a while if I have throttle about 1/4 it will start and run right up to about 2 or 3 thousand rpm, sounds fine, then let off the gas and immediately dies. Is there some kind of disable feature, or? My elevation is about 500'.
Although they do come pretty lean, I am also at roughly 500' and didn't have that issue. If it starts with the throttle partially open, have you check the idle screw? My throttle cable was adjusted all the way out so mine actually idled super high at first.
@@inoutdoors624 Is the idle screw the knurled knob on the left side of carb, sticking out horizontally around the middle are of carb? If so, the head of it is right up against the frame. If that is the idle adjust, which way do you think it turns in order to 'up' the idle? Thanks.. (My throttle cable looks to be about perfect).
@@inoutdoors624 Thanks, that's how my other bike is I guess that's pretty standard. I have a new carb on the way, but I'm going to eventually find a carb with integrated choke and eliminate the choke lever on the handle bar.
I have a 21 k5 xtr 250 highper and it’s the exact same bike and color. Don’t waist your time trying to get to the rear shock adjustment because it’s non adjustable other than the sag. That blue nut and scew is only a gas port. Front shocks have only rebound Allen screws at the bottom, the top is only an air vent, not clickers. Hope that helps good luck.
@@inoutdoors624 Thanks man. I'm a lot lighter, a lot, so when I slide back on a bike with not much power, that's about all I can rely on, lol, the power. I think you might be the one that thought the power on this bike felt between that of a 150f and a 150r, would you say it's damn near a 150r power wise as best you can feel estimate, or not really there? Thanks..
Its listed as 23hp. I have not clocked the top speed but I would guess 50 or 55 mph range. I ordered it on 03/30/22, it shipped 04/05/22, and was delivered on 04/08/22.
I bought it brand new, there is a link to the website I got it from in the description. It is a good beginner bike. Assembly was pretty easy if you're handy but it did not come with instructions.
I found this bike sold under different names, one model of the xpro templar for $1699. Another called the egl a15 pro. And I think the mototec x5. Does anybody know who manufacturers these? There should be manufacturer info somewhere on the bike.
Nibbi racing card with a nibbi hiflo filter is what I run. It made my xpro x6 a beast lol its a full size 125 and I'm running a 22mm carb with a 45 pilot and 105 main, needle to the 5th settings
I used to have a 1985 XR200R and the power is similar. Although I will say the XR is more comfortable with its huge wide seat and cushy suspension! This bike is more of a motorcrosser clone so the seat and suspension are more stiff and uncomfortable.
Technically yes. They make this same bike with optional 21" front and 18" rear wheels which would be full sized. But it is actually a 230cc engine even though it's advertised as a 250cc
Too all the sh/it talkers out there, there really are well made Chinese dirt bikes. Just for the record, pretty much all 300cc and under dirt bikes from Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha are NOT made in Japan. the high end MX bikes are. All the small stuff is made by license and design in Indonesia, Tailand, Taiwan, etc. Also for example: Loncin who makes the harbor freight engines, is a division of Yamaha. Loncin makes parts for everybody, and is a large manufacturer or side by side parts for Yamaha and others. KTM frames are made by a Chinese company. Well made frames! KTM thinks so. These Trailmaster bikes are nice! I have both Kayo and GPX Moto motorcycles. VERY WELL MADE! You could go and purchase a Yamaha TTR 230 for $5400 and get that awesome drum rear brake like the Brady Bunch use to have. Same goes for the Honda CRF 125. It's a global market. One more example would be MOOG suspension components company. A VERY big name brand. use to be all USA manufactured. Not any more. MOOG products are now made in 16 + different countries. Same with Timken bearings.
Thank you for the great comment. I couldn't agree more! I love your MOOG and TIMKEN example. I used to specifically purchase those two brands until I started having major QC issues in the last 10 years. I bought the KLX140 to build a super mini because it was the only one that offered a rear disk brake. I bought the Trailmaster because chinese bikes are starting to get more serious media attention and I wanted to see for myself. It really is a great little bike. "Purists" will always have a lot to say. The only issue I have with the newer brands is the parts availability. If you want to ride and have fun its a lot of bang for the buck!
@inoutdoors624 from your experience do you think someone 5'9 / 5'10 could ride this without any problems, and can this pull up a big hill / mountain??? how much is it to refill it do you know, btw i subbed
@@inoutdoors624 oh okay. Is the bike big as a 250 bc in videos i see it looks shorter like a pit bike I’m just curious bc i been waiting to buy one but kinda wanna see if it’s the the bike is a size as a 250 or not
You can check out my in-depth review here: czcams.com/video/IcNUrJQTPGc/video.html This bike is the same size as a 250, however the TM31 has 19/16 inch wheels. The TM33 is the same exact bike but with 21/18 inch wheels like a standard 250cc.
Those bikes are not that bad, they look like they are made well. What do you also expect for such a low price, you want them to make bike like Kx250 or something. NO They are made for cheap fun.
I have yamaha dt125, Not gonna lie but I like more chinese bikes now I just done some reasurch about chinese bikes not to long ago, and they are improving quicly.
hey man!! no offense but chinese dirt bikes are pretty bad. my first dirt bike was a little chinese coolster 50, haha. it broke the first year i got it, all i was doing on it was playing around in the little quarter acre backyard. this was when i was young but i suggest you get a yz350 or a crf350f. they are both very reliable.
Thanks for the comment! I have had many Japanese bikes over the years and still do. This was never intended to be my only, or primary bike. I bought this bike as an experiment. I will say the quality on this specific bike is much better than what I would call "pit bikes" like the coolsters, ssr's, and the older lifans I had when I was young. I address this in detail in my IN DEPTH REVIEW video.
I met a family in Moab last year when I took my husky from the east coast to ride , I’ve been wanting to do this all my life and finally did it and what a time I had , anyway I met a family of 4 that were riding out there all on Chinese dirt bikes they bought off amazon and they said they loved it , the father said he wishes they could have bought Honda’s or a top brand but just couldn’t afford it and they were happy with the knock offs, I don’t put anyone down for buying these just buy one and go ride enjoy your life it’s too short
I feel ya, I have a KX450f but was considering a Chinese Clone too. Best of luck with it and get out and enjoy.
It’s about the rice not what you’re riding
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Great review even though they definitely look the part it seems that they require a few tweaks to get em goin usually with Chinese Dirtbikes they skimp on the key things like the pivots bearings and suspension but if you're mechanically mindful then updates aren't a problem I guess cheers mate Happy Trails
These bikes have pretty decent engines, the engine is made by zongshen. They are pretty popular engine manufacturer so you should be able to get parts for them. might have to ship them from china though so it can take longer to get parts. I used to have a 2009 pister pro lxr160 with a 160cc zongshen engine and that bike lasted over 10 years of hooning. And I replaced the piston and rings for around $30.
Awesome! Thanks for the comment!
There's only like 3 engine manufacturers in China and Zongshen is the biggest one of them all. Pretty much every dirt bike coming out of China is using Zongshen engines.
@Cali_Livin_916 Zhongshen is one but it's second largest to Lifan, Lifan motors believe it or not designed and manufactured the original Lotus engine for the Lotus supercar 💪
How is the bike holding up? I’m think about getting one for my 13 year old. What made you chose this version over the 21/18?
It sound really good almost like a race bike but it has a slower rev but still pretty good
The bike certainly looks nice. If it is just for fun riding, why not.
I have that same dirt bike same year has a lot of torque and it has been really good it don't like real soft sand too much but other than that it does a great job just make sure you change factory oil and put in some good oil
Awesome, thank you! Were you able to find an oil filter for it?
Can you get new plastic kits for these ?
All I do now is put around on trails lately I think it’s good for that.
Hey man, I'm in upstate NY too. So after a year, what do you think about it?
How did it hold up? Still going strong?
Did you have it sent “new in a crate” or mostly put together? I am goi by to be getting one and was wondering what new in a crate meant as far as how much I would have to assemble?
New in crate. There was a $200 charge to have someone else put it together.
How is the bike holding up now?
Do you know if you can get new plastic kits for this ?
What is the starting procedure for the TM31
(If I'm missing something)?
Not counting; Hooking up battery, fuel on, key on...
It kicks over and starts to idle, then dies, with or without choke on.
Once in a while if I have throttle about 1/4 it will start and run
right up to about 2 or 3 thousand rpm, sounds fine, then let off the
gas and immediately dies.
Is there some kind of disable feature, or? My elevation is about
500'.
Although they do come pretty lean, I am also at roughly 500' and didn't have that issue. If it starts with the throttle partially open, have you check the idle screw? My throttle cable was adjusted all the way out so mine actually idled super high at first.
@@inoutdoors624 Is the idle screw the
knurled knob on the left side of carb,
sticking out horizontally around the
middle are of carb? If so, the head
of it is right up against the frame.
If that is the idle adjust, which way
do you think it turns in order to
'up' the idle? Thanks.. (My throttle cable
looks to be about perfect).
@@bikersoncall yes that should be it. Screwing it in should raise the idle
@@inoutdoors624 Thanks, that's how my
other bike is I guess that's pretty
standard. I have a new carb on the way,
but I'm going to eventually find a carb
with integrated choke and eliminate
the choke lever on the handle bar.
I have a 21 k5 xtr 250 highper and it’s the exact same bike and color. Don’t waist your time trying to get to the rear shock adjustment because it’s non adjustable other than the sag. That blue nut and scew is only a gas port. Front shocks have only rebound Allen screws at the bottom, the top is only an air vent, not clickers. Hope that helps good luck.
Do you still have yours? What issues have you ran into with it and would you recomend the bike?
Did this come from alibaba and how long did it take to come in
Seems like a great little trail ike.....they have alot of upkeep but get a good metric bolt set and some locktite and you'll be good
Hope for some updates....I was pushing towards getting the trailmaster tm38.....
Tm38 is o5 ktm clone
\-_-/ there’s a video available
I have a more in-depth review coming soon!
5:43, Is that an easy power-up wheelie
in 2nd, or are you heavy enough to help
pull it up with your weight? What is your
approx weight?
I weigh 200lbs. I can easily slide back in the seat and pull it up.
@@inoutdoors624 Thanks man.
I'm a lot lighter, a lot, so when I
slide back on a bike with not much
power, that's about all I can rely on,
lol, the power. I think you might be
the one that thought the power on
this bike felt between that of a
150f and a 150r, would you say it's
damn near a 150r power wise as
best you can feel estimate,
or not really there?
Thanks..
@@bikersoncall No, I think a 150R would gap it pretty easily. It does feel more powerful than the 150F though.
it's really not a bad looking bike though. Obviously not like a Japanese or Italian bike but it looks nice
What’s the hp? And top speed? Also how long did it take from placing order to delivery
Its listed as 23hp. I have not clocked the top speed but I would guess 50 or 55 mph range. I ordered it on 03/30/22, it shipped 04/05/22, and was delivered on 04/08/22.
@@inoutdoors624 how much did it cost ya?
Thinking about getting the same bike,was it easy to build and is it good for a begginer?how much did u pay for the bike
I bought it brand new, there is a link to the website I got it from in the description. It is a good beginner bike. Assembly was pretty easy if you're handy but it did not come with instructions.
I found this bike sold under different names, one model of the xpro templar for $1699. Another called the egl a15 pro. And I think the mototec x5. Does anybody know who manufacturers these? There should be manufacturer info somewhere on the bike.
Is the oil filter just a screen?
I hear people change out the carburetors. Do you know what carb they go with?
Nibbi racing card with a nibbi hiflo filter is what I run. It made my xpro x6 a beast lol its a full size 125 and I'm running a 22mm carb with a 45 pilot and 105 main, needle to the 5th settings
They say the seat height is 34'', is that accurate?
The engine looks like a clone of the old Honda GN250 engine I think? If so, that engine has been a workhorse all over the world for decades.
I just bought the TM24 it's only 125 but fun. That thing is a beast I bet ( for what it is lol )
It's pretty snappy. It makes good torque down low. I will be doing a more in depth review soon!
@@inoutdoors624 can't wait to see it! SUBED 🤘🏻
Just swapped one of these(British version m2r) for a ts125r
I have one she's rite. Has power I love my TM31
For what it is and the $$ not bad ....
Some dude rolled up to the library on a heavily modified TM31 I didn't believe how cheap it was because it sounds and rides like a KTM
These Chinese higher end bikes are going to put Honda and Yamaha etc in trouble eventually. They’re catching up in quality for 1/3 the price.
Actually kinda looks sick
It sounds pretty good for what it is too!
Reminds me of the old XR200R A good thumper but would be much faster as a 2 stroke.
I used to have a 1985 XR200R and the power is similar. Although I will say the XR is more comfortable with its huge wide seat and cushy suspension! This bike is more of a motorcrosser clone so the seat and suspension are more stiff and uncomfortable.
What is it a clone of
Hi just wondering is this a full size bike?
Technically yes. They make this same bike with optional 21" front and 18" rear wheels which would be full sized. But it is actually a 230cc engine even though it's advertised as a 250cc
What was the Price range for that tm31 please!?
motobuys.com/collections/dirt-bikes-pit-bikes/products/trailmaster-tm31
pretty cool. where in NY are you?
Finger Lakes region
@@inoutdoors624 Cool. I'm Down on Long Island.
How is it holding up?
So far, so good! I did have to replace the chain. Check out the video! czcams.com/video/Xkt5N4vxiPQ/video.html
You should have gotten the TM 38 or even the TM 36, which is better then the TM 31.
Pretty easy to spend other peoples money huh.
Roy , do you know the cost w/ shipping on the TM 36 ? Thanks.
@@benrodeheaver701 it depends on where you buy it from, but it's around $3,500 delivered to your door.
Did you ever test and see what the top speed is?
I got 55mph
Seriously they cant come up with another fender design??😂😂
Sounds good. But for 2 grand might as well get a Honda or Ktm used
tell me where I can get a used ktm for 2000 dollars please
@@RTX_4080 I meant spend the xtra money
@@SamBrotherman you said for 2 grand might as well get a Honda or ktm used!
Is the tm33 the same?
I go over that question in this video! czcams.com/video/IcNUrJQTPGc/video.html
Too all the sh/it talkers out there, there really are well made Chinese dirt bikes. Just for the record, pretty much all 300cc and under dirt bikes from Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha are NOT made in Japan. the high end MX bikes are. All the small stuff is made by license and design in Indonesia, Tailand, Taiwan, etc. Also for example: Loncin who makes the harbor freight engines, is a division of Yamaha. Loncin makes parts for everybody, and is a large manufacturer or side by side parts for Yamaha and others. KTM frames are made by a Chinese company. Well made frames! KTM thinks so. These Trailmaster bikes are nice! I have both Kayo and GPX Moto motorcycles. VERY WELL MADE! You could go and purchase a Yamaha TTR 230 for $5400 and get that awesome drum rear brake like the Brady Bunch use to have. Same goes for the Honda CRF 125. It's a global market. One more example would be MOOG suspension components company. A VERY big name brand. use to be all USA manufactured. Not any more. MOOG products are now made in 16 + different countries. Same with Timken bearings.
I have 2 apollos, a 250 SM and a 125 pit bike. I also have a 2022 KLX300 dual sport that is made in Thailand!
Thank you for the great comment. I couldn't agree more! I love your MOOG and TIMKEN example. I used to specifically purchase those two brands until I started having major QC issues in the last 10 years. I bought the KLX140 to build a super mini because it was the only one that offered a rear disk brake. I bought the Trailmaster because chinese bikes are starting to get more serious media attention and I wanted to see for myself. It really is a great little bike. "Purists" will always have a lot to say. The only issue I have with the newer brands is the parts availability. If you want to ride and have fun its a lot of bang for the buck!
I'm pretty sure it fell apart and blew up already
I got that same bike
I can’t even turn up then idle screw
Price? :)
motobuys.com/products/trailmaster-tm31?currency=USD&Google%20Shopping&gclid=CjwKCAjw2rmWBhB4EiwAiJ0mtUrdHl4YkIG-3lC8cysod2xVFpNL-O_9hs-v5rZaeqdienaxBsdA5hoCS2sQAvD_BwE
how tall are you?
5' 8"
@inoutdoors624 from your experience do you think someone 5'9 / 5'10 could ride this without any problems, and can this pull up a big hill / mountain??? how much is it to refill it do you know, btw i subbed
does it wheelie easy is kick start good is it good in mud how long do you think it will last?
Is to big for someone that is 5'6"?
I'm 5' 8" and I can touch on both sides.
@@inoutdoors624 thank you. Appreciate the reply.
That’s a 250cc right?
It is marketed as a 250cc. However, the spec sheet (and the jug) show 230cc.
@@inoutdoors624 oh okay. Is the bike big as a 250 bc in videos i see it looks shorter like a pit bike I’m just curious bc i been waiting to buy one but kinda wanna see if it’s the the bike is a size as a 250 or not
You can check out my in-depth review here: czcams.com/video/IcNUrJQTPGc/video.html
This bike is the same size as a 250, however the TM31 has 19/16 inch wheels. The TM33 is the same exact bike but with 21/18 inch wheels like a standard 250cc.
@@inoutdoors624 do you feel good on the 31 or do you feel you should be on the 33? Great vid and review
@@christophervigna1827 the TM31 is plenty tall for me. I'm 5' 8" and it's perfect for me!
They all from China or Japan besides Husqvarna and ktm ain't they
Aren't they all china bikes??
Yy
The factory is rubbish
Those bikes are not that bad, they look like they are made well.
What do you also expect for such a low price, you want them to make bike like Kx250 or something. NO
They are made for cheap fun.
I have yamaha dt125, Not gonna lie but I like more chinese bikes now
I just done some reasurch about chinese bikes not to long ago, and they are improving quicly.
Same as you.. rubbish talk
hey man!! no offense but chinese dirt bikes are pretty bad. my first dirt bike was a little chinese coolster 50, haha. it broke the first year i got it, all i was doing on it was playing around in the little quarter acre backyard. this was when i was young but i suggest you get a yz350 or a crf350f. they are both very reliable.
Thanks for the comment! I have had many Japanese bikes over the years and still do. This was never intended to be my only, or primary bike. I bought this bike as an experiment. I will say the quality on this specific bike is much better than what I would call "pit bikes" like the coolsters, ssr's, and the older lifans I had when I was young. I address this in detail in my IN DEPTH REVIEW video.
@@inoutdoors624 okay man! no problem and nice!
no such thing as a yz350 or crf350f you troll fucker 😂😂