Deck or Engine? | Seaman VLOG 059
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- Which is better? Deck or Engine?
A few viewers are interested to join the merchant marine. They have been asking for advice which course to take.
Chief MAKOi Seaman VLOG ep 059
Deck or engine?
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Here is my opinion.....
Before I went to California Maritime Academy I wanted to be in the deck department. I was good at math and knew something about navigation.
I met two retired captains. One was a marine inspector and the other was an insurance salesman.
Then I met a retired chief engineer. He told me if I wanted to sail my whole life, then go deck, but if I ever wanted to come ashore later on in life and get a good job, go engineer.
I graduated as a licensed engineer from the academy in 1980. I sailed seven years on ocean going tugs and twenty-two years on ships.
There are advantages and disadvantages to both jobs at sea. “The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.”
When I sailed, it was generally known that it was easier for engineers to catch a ship than for mates. Mates had to wait longer times for work.
Since I retired from being a Chief Engineer in 2009, I have been working as a facility engineer in a large hospital. The systems are very similar to shipboard. It’s a great job. Best “ship” I’ve ever worked on! Besides....I’m home every night. 😉
What abt the wage? Do u got a good wage based on what u did?
Are sure that if you go deck you can work only at sea?
Umar Aziz - Yes. The wage is very good. However, if you have a wife and family, it is hard to be apart. You will definitely be a good provider. One has to weigh what is more important. Money is not everything.
But, to answer your question more specifically, it depends on the contract. Back in the mid 1990’s I was on a government diesel ship as a Chief Engineer and only getting around $9000 a month (lowest contract in my union). My next ship was a steam ship, BP tanker, as a Third Assistant and made $12,000 a month (one of the highest contracts in my union. Both ships were basically four months on and four months off.
Александър Байданов7oo8 - What kind of a shore job do you think having a mates or captains license would be good for?
The best job ashore for a deck officer would be a bar or harbor pilot. Great pay, but also can be risky in places like Columbia River Bar or San Francisco Bar.
I suppose a mate or captain could get a job in the office of a shipping company.
There are just far more opportunities for engineers ashore than for mates.
Your observation is very limited to possible opportunities. I am astound to hear from you, being a retired CE, you are still employed. Aren't you tired of being an employee all your life? If I am a retired seafarer like you, I'd be an entrepreneur.
I want to be in the passenger / guest department
Hahaha
Lol
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I have never been to sea and now much too old to begin but I want to commend you on your videos. This one was very well done and I hope inspires the younger generation to chart their own path. Thumbs up Chief!
Thanks chief for boosting my confidence in my course even though I'm in grade 11 and many blessings to come in your life and stay GWAPO as always😎
Im at deck department but to be honest i love the jobs of the engine department cause i like doing stuff and fixing or building up things. But it's annoying that some of the engineers would say deck has a very easy job compared to engine. Guys you've never been on the bridge during maneuvering/docking operations. It is very crucial job since we are dealing with uncontrollable variables like weather,wind, sea or people. If we fuck up there is no manual to look. It needs a very precise decision making and quick actions. Not to mention during cargo operations. So dont say that we have a very easy job.
Yes, it is a easy job
Its an easy job
napaka easy niyan...kahit mga Fisherman di nga tumataob!
resti mocoy - I’ve been up on the bridge during maneuvering/docking operations many times.
It’s an easy job.
Ask anyone they will say it's easy job , we are in engine all day smelling like shit and doing hardwork while you guys stay in white shirts and chill all day
I has been worked as engineer about 20 year in many ship,after that time,I started work in industrial job...was very easy to get jobs,because we has a lot expierienci in many divece..greeting fro Uruguay
Chief you are a very good guy to council that young person for his future. Bravo Chief!
Maraming salamat po chief Makoi, dahil sa inyo nabibigyan kami ng pagkakataong makita kung papaano mamuhay sa barko ng mga marinero.
Panay ngang tanong ko sa kuya kong bagong sampa kung anong bang mga activities dun , e nang dahil sa inyo nakakabisado na po namin kalagayan nya doon habang hindi kami nagkocomunicate sa kanya!
Job Well Done, Thumbs up po para sa inyo Sir!
Thanks!
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As promised, I will be inserting a few of these informative episodes while I'm on vacation. These will be in addition to my upcoming travel vlogs and a BIG series of Seaman Vlog episodes I am planning to do in the coming months. So stay tuned. I hope you all enjoy this all new "season" of my channel.
The advantage engineers have is that they can leave and pursue a career onshore, which is what I did. I had a wide choice of technical jobs.
Hi what type of jobs one can do outside of merchant marine with engineer degree ? Please can you explain sir !
Deck sir will do nothing offshore? To teach in university, training center etc...
@@alcriscauba9215 there are very few vacancies.
@@sneocatenaccio746 the list is endless. It includes manufacturing and maintenance, power station work, supervisory and management positions, safety positions, engineering insurance, etc. I have held Jobs in most of these and other positions after I came ashore and until I retired in my seventies. Engineers will always be in short supply.
Agree
Shout out to all the AB and the Bosun. Thinking of my dad and his buddies.much gratitude to the entire crew.
Good points Chief. When I am asked that question most people are astonished that a ship has three departments they seem to think they have to start wiping up bilge oil. I tell them that is a messy but necessary job it is best to decide what you like to do. If you like to cook, then the Galley is the place for you, you like engineering and mechanics, the engine room is the place for you, you like working outside, then the deck.
Well said, Captain. As an aside regarding bilge oil, I was invited aboard a US coastguard vessel many years ago, and the crew had been told off because there was DUST in their bilges!
I like to do engine and be outside lol.
I was a happy deck chief officer, good salary, adventures, travelling, social status, all of the good stuff. Then I retired to finally have some private and social life. And well, now I have an education and job experience that most people and companies have no idea what to do with. Instead of earning money I am back in university to qualify as a teacher. A degree in engineering instead of nautics would have been a much better transition into life on land. All in all I don´t regret my life choices, but sometimes I do.
Chief Makoi can you please make also a blog about what are the responsibilities of an electrician on a ship
Your channel is so helpful with us
Thanks sir Chief Makoi...
GOD BLESS...
good explanation, i just finished my cadet program, the exam is next to become a deck officer.
when I was 19 years old in 1980 , I always wished to join large merchant ship to be their cadet officer with the aim to be a ship captain one day . However each time I went for interview in Singapore, I was offered the post of "Owner representative" which I was least interested . With several failed interviews, I decided to join the Malaysian Navy and I was sent for a Radio Operator training to be one of the communication team, after several years, I quit and today I run my own business in education .Now I am too old to have those wild dream.
I was on a brand new boat with no cook and hated it and was on an old fishing boat out of Homer AK and loved it because we had a real cook and he made the longest days seem ok
Engineering Officer skills are more broadly, directly applicable to jobs outside of the merchant marine. For example, in the US, when there has been a maritime strike, recession, etc. or if a Merchant Marine Engineering Officer decides not to continue going to sea, he can work as a stationary engineer in charge of maintaining and operating large power generation systems for hospitals, large buildings, etc. Stationary engineer jobs offer high pay and excellent benefits in the USA.
True.
Yes when my Grandfather retired from being a Chief Engineer he became the engineer at the Waldorf Astoria hotel in NYC.
I'm glad I found your channel via Wil Dasovich's vlog. You have really good content. Though I will never live the life of a merchant marine...it is really interesting to see your life through your videos.
Thanks!
Thank you for this nice video sir!👍 My boyfriend is also a seaman! With this video I already have an idea what kind of work he has in his new vessel. Keep it up & Godbless! 😘🙏😉
+Kathrina Dagaraga thanks!
Nice video chief, cant wait to be onboard as an engine cadet! Your videos inspired me, i am going to be recognized this coming march. God bless and safe voyage always!
So, How did it go?
Where are you now?
@@jccone2424 onboard as an oiler in a bulk carrier and will disembark this month (end of contract & vessel sold).
ito yung vlog na my matutunan ka khit di ako seaman prang naaaliw ako sa mga sinsbe ni sir at khit english pa sya detalyado ang bwat salita na bibitawan ..tnx sir na amazed ako
Two years ago I 've joined to deck department and I coulndn't regret.
I was a galley hand on a diving ship and my gosh did they work me nonstop from the moment I got up to the moment I laid down.
Deck hand on barge pushing tugs was brutal. And one night three barges broke loose and we spent all night hunting them down and cabling them back together. It was probably the most dangerous thing I ever did.
You forgot about a department, well...... maybe. I was a career Merchant Marine officer myself. I started out in the engine department and did work as chief engineer for a while. As I got older the job requirements in the engine department became physically more difficult. I switched to becoming a master radio-electronics officer. These positions are quite rare these days, but still do exist. My position was a separate department and the direct supervisor was the captain. It was a great job. The chief knew that I was also a former chief, and I always maintained my chief's license, so I would often go down to the engine room to work on electronics issues there. I just didn't have to sling around a huge wrench. A voltmeter is a lot lighter. On the ship I was on everyone had a good time and the capt, C/E, C/M and myself would often meet just after breakfast in the morning and go over the maintenance issues on the ship and make a deal about who could handle what. I didn't mind going down to the engine room or climbing a mast to fix an antenna. Now the position of ETO Electo-technical officer is starting to be a more popular thing. I am now retired but would have gotten the ETO license as well if I hadn't. Probably the ETO would be under the C/E on ships, but I'm not sure about that. That's why I wasn't sure if there was a separate electronics department. In any event I am now receiving a pension from the radio officer's union. I am still receiving a shipping list via email once in a while so I can see some people I know still working on ships today as a radio-electronics officer.
The last time I sailed with a sparky (Radio Officer) was back in 2004.
Radio Operators were becoming extinct when I was sailing. The only time I saw them was on government contract ships. There was so much military communications.
I do remember one radio operator we had, he was ex-Air Force. He loved to troubleshoot our Tano boards from the engine room console and fix them. He could solder like a machine! I was fortunate to have him with me for four years.
Hey, What were the requirements to be in the radio electronics dep from a civilian stand point ?
Awesome video.👍 Me myself is old deck crew...and i loved doing it ....You can leave the sea....but the sea Will never leave You...✨
Thanks for this vlog sir. Its a great oppurtunity for those upcoming college students to get some overview on the path that they will choose. Ill share this vlog. 😎😉 I just finished my contract as an E/C.
Thanks!
whether deck or engine, it is very difficult to find job. i am searcing for engine cadet but i cant get job. my college just sucked money from me.this is very hard time in my life.anyhow your videos make me happy lightly.pls continue your service
Thanks!
@Prakash Raj from which college u graduate?
My father was on one of the old coal burning ore freighters on the Great Lakes in America in the late 1940’s. He was in the engine room tending to the boilers. Very different from a modern diesel ship.
THANK YOU, CHIEF!! This video helped me sooooooo much! Hope you and your family are doing well during Covid-19! God’s got this! “There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come near your house, for HE shall give his angels charge over you, to keep you in all your ways.” Psalm 91:10-11
Clear explanation! Long story short! Thumbs up & Thanks!
If you are the sort of person who always likes to fix things that are broke around the house, then I would suggest that the engineering department is the right place for you. Some people like to drive from place to place and looking at maps is fun & interesting. If you are like that, then consider the deck department. Perhaps you really don't like to do either of these things, then I would say that the merchant marine job may not be right for you at all. From a very young age I was always taking things apart and trying to fix anything that didn't work right. I went to a maritime academy, started working on marine vessels, and eventually ended up as a chief engineer. As I got older I became a radio-electronics officer because it was physically easier. The job still involved fixing things that didn't work right but I was usually working in an airconditioned environment. I really never liked driving long distances in my car but was happy to work on it when necessary. It's always a good idea to have a job that is consistent with your interests in life.
Excellently balanced presentation of the career choices.
Sir makoi maraming salamat po sa paggawa nyo po ng video malaking tulong po saamin ito ..mas lalo na po yung pag rereply nyo po sa mga nag cocoment..
Thankyou sir
Thanks for watching!
Thanks a lot chief Makoi. You gave me/us a bunch of information. Now I confidently decided what I am going to choose between the Deck Dep. And the Galley Dep. I want it both. But we all now that I can't do that. Haha sorry my grammar is not that good enough😅 I am now choosing what I want the most the Deck Department😊 Incoming Grade 11 this next school year. God bless to me😇 thank you sir. Makoi😊
may be my destination is flowing on ocean, I like these kinds of vlog!
I wish I could give three likes to this one. Thank you Chief!
Nice Explanation Cheif, I am also from Engine Department
Thanks!
One of the best channels on youtube... And offcourse best side is engine hehe.. Salamat Po Chief...
Thanks!
Very inspiring, sir chief!
I'm currently reviewing for OIC-EW examinations this year and please help me pray to passed my licensure exams to become one of you in the future. Proud Marine Engineer, 22 years old here.
A truly excellent presentation -- thank you!
Hello sir 🙏
One of my villager work on 2nd officer at synergy ......💐
And after knowing that you ate also in this company ...it seemed that you are one of my relative or close friend 😍😃
You are doing great work ......
Lots of best wishes keep it up 🙏
thanks for posting alot of seafaring videos. it reignite my love for seafaring. i hope makakabalik pa ako
Hello Chief, I just subscribed to your channel! I find your videos very interesting! It's great that you show day to day happenings aboard the ship.
For me 31 years in the Merchant Marines,Deck department, US flag. What a great life it was, I miss it!
Of all the places that I've been to and as many times I've been around the world, that was the one thing that enticed me to go to sea, to see the world!
Best advice that I could give to you is to make sure you put some of that $$$ for retirement!
Take care my friend,be careful! 👍🏼🇺🇸🇵🇭👍🏼
Thanks!
These two equal parts of one thing... Can't be compared. It's like Ying Yang
Yin*
Its like tik and tok
Excellent video! I thought it was obvious for choice though, if you like engines and you like working on cars and motorcycles, it’s Engineer for you!
I was training to be a ship’s engineer for Texaco in 1967, however the mathematics was too hard for me and I dropped out. The mathematics was for steam turbines, however I believe ships nowadays are all diesel.
Thanks!
another great video. Before going into your business people should be aware of the life style as you commented. The long time at sea and the routine of work. Can you talk about the contract length I know it differs with the type of ship your on. I think tankers have shorter contracts. When in foreign ports do you take your passport with you on shore leave? Who arranges and pays your transportation home at the end of contract.
Ok I'll come up with a story for that.
Chief MAKOi nice advice and explanation, i used to be a seaman before but i decided to jumpship but it was my decision that i didn't regret.
San ka nag jumpship?
Sa Spain Chief nong nakuha ko Spanish Citizen lumipat ako sa UK, at dito na ako nagtrabaho.
I am not a seafarer by any means but I love your explanations of your job on board, and the daily life you lead. Great videos!
Very educational sir chief
Thank you po sir, kahit bago palang po ako dito sa channel nyo andami ko ng nakukuhang informations and nakakamotivate po sobra salamat po 💓 I hope someday po makita ko po kayo at makasama kayo sa barko bilang cadet officer ninyo
It depends what your most interested in. I like Engineering but know Deck is the handlers of cargo. Crain is a good field, Welding another, Boiler Tech etc.... Just depends on interest
Wow...you have the same position with my brother❤🙏salute you both chief engineer,and soon my niece studied for marine engineering as of now.
Future Capt.⚓❣️
Engine mechanic would be the best job but worst views. Deck hand has best views.
There is always off duty time, and some engineering functions are carried out on deck.
Its much easyer to be marine engineer now days because of new tehnology and automation
@@bichplz4375 *No almost all ship are not that automated and stick to classic/manual because it is easy to maintain.*
@@PsylentSir idk i wasnt sailing but teachers from my maritime highschool and now my maritime college says that it is easier now to be marine engineer especially my SOLAS teacher in my maritime highschool who used to be ship captain
The best part of sailing for me was quitting and staying ashore. Never coming back. Only in my dreams every month once. 😉
Sir thankyousomuch. Very clear explanation. You really help a maritime students like me. You made our lessons in school simple. More videos pa sir :)
😁
Chief, wasn't it you who said," The Capitain runs the Ship, The Engineer makes the Ship run"
This video boosts my confidence to take marine transportation thank you Sir
Very informational videos Chief!
More to come!
More to come!
Chief makoi you choose engine department .you must be 🖐 hands on guy and also you must be smart guy figuring things & you like help people.
...My take is that in Engine is always a better team and feels more like a family..
Jeez, if anyone is thinking of not watching it all don't miss 6:53 till the end,
it's fabulous footage.
Chief Makoi! See you sir sa PMMA! Idol🔥 sana makapasa.
Thakyou for this seamanvlog, sir. I am fresh marine engineering grad. Sir. And gusto ko mag vlog kapag naka sampa nako. Nainspire ako sir. Maraming salamat!
Just out of curiosity, does a chief engineer ever transfer over to being a captain? I realize that it is disjointed career path but does it ever happen anyway?
Great information really important I really enjoy this channel
Nice video Sir, I always get motivations from your videos. I commend you for the time you have dedicated in educating we the upcoming officers worldwide.
So to boil it down there are three divisions. The Captain runs the ship, the Chief Engineer owns the ship, and the Chief Cook is the glue that holds everything together. And I'd suspect that a good marine engineer or a cook who can keep a crew happy on month's long contracts is far more employable that some guy with a fancy uniform when they decide to make a living on land.
I'd like to work on the deck because I love star gazing. Really amazing videos please keep making this great content 🙂
An advantage of engineering: you stay a lot warmer than deck force. =)
Engine room folks are allergic to daylight and see the world in terms of seawater temperature. Was engine room guy 1962 - 1970.
Very informative chief. I now have the idea what my bro in law who is a seafarer like you is talking about
Thanks for watching!
There is only one Chief on a boat.
Great info and advice. Cheif MAKOi is the best. :-)
Sir can you please do a video about your financial / life stability 🙏 God Bless sir! Thanks to your channel !
I acquired new things about my husband's journey! Thank you so much 👏😇
I'm having a hard time in pursuit of courses, either Marine Transportation or Marine Engineering? The idea of choosing the path of Marine Engineering is i've always been so fascinated with machines, i question myself how this complex running material built? like how does that work? truly curiosity drives you crazy. Now on the other hand which is Marine Transportation well frankly saying i really have no idea, yet i do like the thought of it, imagining myself as a captain would be solid damn Luffy you inspire me 😂
Super video, please post how to navigate ship and overhauling of fuel feed pump
I’m from Taiwan. Recently I got an info about postgraduate education of marine. There are 2 choices I can choose. One of deck, the other is engineer. If I were 22 years old, I must choose deck department. But right now I’m 28 years old, I became careful. Before deciding, I consider future if I won’t want to on board anymore, what can I do on ashore?
I prefer to deck, because I like the feeling like adventures. But, I choose to face real.
I will get to 28. I just need some confidence. It’s too late to get degree about Marine engineer?
Sarap manoud nito lalo na pag pangharap mo maging seaman
When Iwas onboard a vessel,commanded by French senior officers,what I knew then that if you want to be a captain of the ship,you must be a chief engineer first for 2 or more years,before becoming a skipper,that's thier rules(French govt.)
How old where you when you became chief engineer
32
33 on ships
23 on ocean tugs
*Ang prob kasi nowadays, nagbabawas na ng tao sa makina, Naalala ko may nasakyan akong barko 5 lang kami sa makina, C/E. , 2E. , 3/E. , Elect at Wiper, grabe pagod ko nung wiper ako, UMS ung barko tapos araw araw ka duty then araw araw rouving, kpag may alarma kailangan ikaw yung mauuna sa ECR, kase pgka naunahan ka/ di ka nakagising sigurado papagalitan ka nila. Kahit na trabaho tlga nila yon and may ALARM sila sa CABINA sa ratings wala (sa iba meron). Minsan mas okay pa mixed crew kesa full crew kasi katulad non 5 lng kami sa makina then mag isa lng akong ratings, lahat ng Engrs. mo may utos sayo di mo na alam sino uunahin, pero madalas kpag hinatak ako ni Hepe (Chief Engr.) wala sila magawa kasi direct order eh, sonda kami ng tanks at calculate ng bunkers*
been watching all ur videos chief makoi, marami aqng natututunan kc curios tlaga aq kng ano ano b tlaga gnagawa ng mga seamans onboard,..hiya nmn kc aq mgtanong sa mga kapatid q gusto q detalyado tlaga lahat ng info hehehe
good job po, safe sailing all seamans😊
i have reasons now to subscribe and liked ur videos..Good job Chief😉
Thanks!
A very informative video. My son was looking into something called watch officer. He went to school for media communications.
I thought he should be looking at cruise ship communications dept. I'm sure it's more involved.
From my experience on cargo vessels the wage for Captain and Chief Engineer is the same.
In holland the course is not mono. We learn both disciplines so when you graduate you have the license to do both
Yes. I went to M.I. Willem Barentzs in Terschelling back in 2006 for a 1 month training. Very good school.
Chief MAKOi cool im studying on willem barentsz terschelling right now!!
That's nice! Are Franz Donders and Wibo Hoffman are still teaching there? If so, give my regards. Oh and I'd appreciate if you tell your classmates about my channel! 😀
Chief MAKOi Wibo Hofman is still here! Lecturing sability right now. I will like your channel!
@@bekhouwe8888 thanks!
Excellent explanation sir thanks...i will go deck department someday 🙏🙇💪
Engine. Without a doubt.
Very nice Chief Makoi.
Thanks!
I am finishing high school for deck, but engine is better, i realised that 2nd year of my education
Ill be onboard a ship oneday
Nigyl Rodriguez Hope to meet each other there!!!
Hanan zamani.
Someday brother :)
Great sir
There are two positions that will hold a ship from leaving port Chief Engineer and Captain.
It's only the Captain who is in overall Command of the ship. CE may be paid on par with the captain, and holds the same rank as the captain, although he is never responsible for the action of ship.
Mariner Chris - If the ship loses electrical power or if the steering fails, propulsion fails for lack of proper maintenance and the ship drifts ashore and runs aground - Guess what?
They will be going after the Chief Engineer!
eovdubs VW - Good Captains will alway listen to their Chief Engineers. 😉
@@marinerchris idiot
The best seafaring profession is the one you choose to become. But one thing is sure... pag nagseaman ka, POGI ka.
Kung napanuod ko sana nuon yung mga video mo sir baka magseaman ako nice video po sir
Out of nowhere po, idol po talaga kita, and ikaw po ang isa sa mga inspirasyon ko kung bakit ko gusto maging seaman, specially kapitan ng barko!, and I just want to ask po naguguluhan po talaga ako sa nais kong pasukin sa college ano po mas prefer nyo PMMA or MAAP? your answer will be highly appreciated, God bless you po!
PMMA ako graduate. Kung sa tingin mo kaya mo ang training sa PMMA, go ahead.
Engineers have less headache and the are needed most nowadays. There are too many deck officers and ratings in the industry.
salamat chief malaking tulong tong video na ito
When you retire you can still use the ide of greasing your car..and machine at home including electrical.